RPX Rollup- Episode 11 - Haunted West

[00:00:01] Welcome to The Roleplaying Exchange. This is Adam and today we're going to be doing a

[00:00:32] roll up for Haunted West and joining me today are my good friends from One Less Die. Well,

[00:00:39] howdy there everybody. This is Chris or Crayzon or review cultist, the GM of One Less Die.

[00:00:47] The band of many names. Now let the tip. The Black Pharaoh, he who crawls in the chaos.

[00:00:57] Yeah. I will be referring to as Crayzon because I think we have another Chris joining us today.

[00:01:06] Yeah, sorry everybody. Everybody listen to me like sorry. Just like heads up.

[00:01:13] It's fine. We almost had two Dave's as well.

[00:01:19] And finally a man that certainly does not need an introduction but

[00:01:23] I'm gonna do it anyway. Hi everybody. This is David originally from Roleplaying Public Radio,

[00:01:31] but I have migrated through the podcast sphere to the point where if you're playing red markets

[00:01:36] in any podcast at all, eventually I will show up just like a vampire. I show up somewhere

[00:01:43] so we barely run red markets on this podcast or on One Less Die and you popped in here anyway.

[00:01:51] I told you without red markets. Once I've invited, I get to stay like a vampire.

[00:01:59] Speaking of vampires, this game that we're going to be talking about today

[00:02:03] is certainly lends itself to the weird. So Haunted West is a game by designer

[00:02:10] Chris Pivey. Chris Pivey is probably most well known for his Harlem Renaissance setting of

[00:02:18] Harlem Unbound? Yeah, Harlem Unbound. And yeah, this project Haunted West has been out since like

[00:02:26] 2000. I think it was in publication around 2021 or something like that. So,

[00:02:30] you know as a recording date here about two years old and man, it's an intimidating book

[00:02:36] and by intimidating, I mean it's 800 and some pages. It's a big one.

[00:02:42] Yeah, it is kind of a whopper but it's got a lot in it. Like I have my fair share of very thick

[00:02:49] gaming books. I think that one, I don't have this one yet, but I think it'll finally break my shelf

[00:02:58] with how much is there. See, my shelf is made entirely out of two by tens just to handle the

[00:03:03] big weight and I'm looking at my shelf like, I don't know. I mean, my shelves are already bending

[00:03:09] in the middle so. You may have to brace it. Yeah. And I have made a point to show this book to

[00:03:16] crazy Alamut he was over at my house two years ago. I was like, no look at this. I was like,

[00:03:19] what the hell? It's like a Bible in itself. I mean honestly, there's so much love poured

[00:03:29] into this book that I mean it's evident in the page count and evident in everything about it. So

[00:03:35] I've been looking forward to doing this even since you know, the point that we started doing roll ups

[00:03:40] like this has always been on my to-do list and just the stars have aligned today and we're

[00:03:45] going to go into it. So what we're working on here is a Western setting. So the American West

[00:03:52] and when I say American, that's also you know, Canada, Mexico, LA. We basically are the cowboys

[00:03:59] was more or less 50 years. So it's kind of weird to think about something that has such a big hold

[00:04:04] definitely like in cinema, early cinema in general only existed for 50 years. Whereas

[00:04:10] you're talking about you know, medieval Renaissance and all these other periods that were 100 or

[00:04:15] hundreds of years and things like that. So we're doing like this little small window of time.

[00:04:21] I think the book may mention it, but in my head, I've kind of got it pegged between 1850s,

[00:04:28] 60 to like 1890s or 1900. So you know, if you played Red Dead Redemption, which is a beautiful game,

[00:04:36] it takes place in the early 1900s. So the death row was of the cowboy era. So this is

[00:04:42] our game could be said at any point during this time. And to get to the book here, I want

[00:04:49] to share about two little paragraphs with you that Chris Pivey writes under the chapter called

[00:04:54] Truth. The West and its mythology are drenched in prejudice regarding race, sexuality, gender,

[00:05:00] religion, ethnicity, and anything under the sun that makes humans different from one another.

[00:05:06] Throughout the book, we've shined a light on that bias and oppression,

[00:05:10] and also on those who struggled against it. This is a story of the land we live on.

[00:05:16] It's not just a tale about people who were black, Chinese, indigenous, Jewish, white, Mexican,

[00:05:22] and others. It's a story about all of us together. Everyone and no one can take center stage. It's

[00:05:29] a story about community or at the heart of it striving to become one. So starting off on this

[00:05:35] really beautiful image here. This is our story, everybody's story. And yeah. And then we have,

[00:05:44] I don't know where to go with that. You just got two wispy eyed in the words.

[00:05:51] Yeah. In the message. Yeah. Let me share one last bit because I did mention I was wanting

[00:05:55] to do two paragraphs out of this here. Yep. We cannot honor history by shying away or ignoring

[00:06:01] uncurrentful topics and truths. America was built on genocide, enslavement, terror,

[00:06:05] and untold horrors, mainly at the hands of white European people, not solely,

[00:06:10] but largely. And then they sew our history and replaced it with lies of their greatness,

[00:06:17] our sufficient place in a false hierarchy, all the while creating tension between different groups

[00:06:22] to strengthen their position with bullshit like model minorities. We are forever struggling

[00:06:28] under their oppressive weight. So gentlemen, are you all about ready to roll up here?

[00:06:37] I sure am. I am going to play myself, but set in an old West and throwing a couple of extra things.

[00:06:44] I'm already picturing the Colonel as in his 40s. Queer is a $3 bill, but does a boobarang

[00:06:51] and stylish as hell walking into the old West? Because why not?

[00:06:56] It's gonna be a purple too.

[00:06:59] Technically lavender. I'm going to have to double check by history of purple,

[00:07:06] but I believe that purple suits did exist back then. They were just not very common.

[00:07:11] And considering that I'm leaning towards the practitioner archetype.

[00:07:16] So I'm gonna seem like a bit supernatural. I feel like a purple suit with a long jacket.

[00:07:25] Kind of like one of the two that's hanging in my closet right now just kind of fits for, yeah.

[00:07:31] Hasn't purple been around since Rome though?

[00:07:34] Yeah, but depending on the era, it might have been easier to do than others at times.

[00:07:42] Yeah, honestly, I think it's a great lead-in for this. So there's different kind of settings

[00:07:46] for this. This game has a lot packed in it. I'll like I was going over this with everybody too.

[00:07:54] So you can, we can play a traditional Western. We can play a spaghetti Western or essentially,

[00:07:59] you know, superpowered kind of deal like that. And then there's an, there's a more historically

[00:08:05] kind of alternate timeline version that is known as haunted West reconstruction, which is

[00:08:11] basically set in timetable to four years after the end of the American Civil War.

[00:08:17] Now either of these elements can be just straight up Western.

[00:08:21] It can be a gritty Western, spaghetti Western or you could have the weird West and you can,

[00:08:27] you know, take these other elements like the spaghetti-ish or the weird and kind of pepper,

[00:08:32] whichever one you're going with. Now, personally, I am kind of in a mindset that I would like,

[00:08:39] I love the weird West. So I'm wanting to do something a little more fantastical with

[00:08:43] you guys if that's okay. Yeah, I'm 100% down. I like, I love weird West genre.

[00:08:50] There's even different game modes for this. There is the version that we're going to be working with,

[00:08:56] which is more traditional RPG style like we do, like The Other to Mine,

[00:09:01] which I believe this, that mode is called Dead Man's Hand.

[00:09:05] Okay. And I'm looking into book right now to see where I see that.

[00:09:11] I'm going through a four, I'm 24 pages in and I haven't got through the forward yet.

[00:09:16] It is a very big book and cannot be understated.

[00:09:20] It is a rather thick book and I just need to know what year we're setting this in,

[00:09:25] like what is the number for the year?

[00:09:30] I'm thinking honestly, 18, I like the idea of the 1890s.

[00:09:36] Hot damn.

[00:09:38] I was also kind of inspired by something that Chris mentioned that he wanted to

[00:09:43] include in his character. So yeah, that works out great. Oh yeah.

[00:09:48] So there's three styles of play. There's Dead Man's Hand, which is what we're doing.

[00:09:51] That's the traditional style, The Other to Mine. It's got the rules for that.

[00:09:55] There's also a quick draw style, which is more narrative focused version with a boiled down

[00:10:02] system of essentials and you know, it's stripped down. And then finally there's

[00:10:08] the Badlands system, which is made for minis and you can even buy like minis.

[00:10:12] So it's up to cut out and make minis with from Chris Favie's Darker Hughes website.

[00:10:18] So we're going to be doing the traditional style.

[00:10:22] Now beforehand, before we start going over character creation, I do want to kind of

[00:10:28] mention this is there's a lot of different things kind of piled into this game system.

[00:10:32] So for skill checks, it's going to be almost bear. His system is called the Orabor system,

[00:10:40] but skill checks are going to be just percentile D100. So if you're wanting to

[00:10:46] you know do a shooting check of some sort or whatnot, I'm looking at the skills right now

[00:10:53] like animal handling, then you would roll whatever skill, you know, if you have a 35

[00:10:58] an animal handling, you're trying to roll under 35, 35 and under. Now if you're using the more

[00:11:07] base abilities that those are based off of, which are like awareness, physique, reflexes, personality,

[00:11:13] technology, knowledge and resolve, it switches over to a D20 and it's like you're playing D&D

[00:11:22] all of a sudden and I'm going to roll my you know, technology base skill,

[00:11:29] which we're going to derive in character creation and then there may be modifiers or

[00:11:34] detractors from that score to do that. And in that case, you're trying to you know,

[00:11:40] but yeah, you're basically switched the system over to the rowing of D20.

[00:11:43] So we'll get more into that when we go into character creation. So

[00:11:48] all right let's look here. I'm trying to find what page character creation begins on.

[00:11:52] I'm also trying to find it. I can't really.

[00:11:55] The character creation overview that is here on page 122. It's got all of the different steps,

[00:12:02] but some of those are going to have to break down and go further in. So here's what I'm leaning

[00:12:09] towards. I see a southern gentleman who basically decided he did not like the practices of the

[00:12:17] south and just kind of got denounced at the start of the civil war and just kind of rolled

[00:12:24] his way west because he lost everything at the start of the war. So he doesn't have that bitterness

[00:12:31] that a lot of the other southern gentlemen have simply because it's like, yeah,

[00:12:36] what's that about your house getting burned down because you made some choices?

[00:12:41] Yeah, it kind of sucks, doesn't it? It's like zero sympathy for the south.

[00:12:47] Simply because it's like, yeah, you threw me out first because apparently I can hear things

[00:12:53] that you can't. So I'm leaning towards practitioner as far as my archetype,

[00:13:01] which means that somebody is going to have to tackle a little bit of magic and I'm going

[00:13:05] to throw myself into that one. But we've got just basically a general listing, oh, the things here.

[00:13:12] Step three is picking your paragon. But I'm kind of roll with the pseudonym of the kernel.

[00:13:20] Everybody just knows him as the kernel because names have power and he doesn't actually give

[00:13:26] his name. But that's a old southern thing that even before people had served in the various

[00:13:37] armies, you know, the blue and the gray and brother versus brother kind of thing,

[00:13:44] somebody who was an older gentleman who had owned property would basically pick up that

[00:13:52] appellation or that title. So there are times that's like, well, yes, that's the kernel.

[00:13:58] In what army did he serve? He never served. He's just the kernel.

[00:14:02] That's how we got Colonel Sanders. Colonel Sanders was, he's been given a title of Kentucky

[00:14:07] kernel. By the way, David, do you know who else is a Kentucky kernel? Rob Hauerford.

[00:14:13] Wow. Really? Yeah, the governor of Kentucky two or three years ago gave Rob Hauerford

[00:14:19] the title of Kentucky kernel. So him and Colonel Sanders are, you know, it was really cool. But

[00:14:25] yeah, so that's a perfect example. Now, Chris and Chris, what I'm looking at is on page 120

[00:14:34] and David has just done this and yeah, I've hopped into I've hopped over to the no, what I was

[00:14:40] going to say is like going through the steps of crafting paragons. It starts out in the

[00:14:45] beginning by saying which are paragons or what our characters are, by the way, the geom is called

[00:14:51] a bow deer like wavelength Jennings from Diggs Hazard. And so it mentions we need to pick a few

[00:14:58] words or short phrase to describe our paragon. You don't need to know the details yet. So if

[00:15:04] you don't, if you all don't have the idea offhand, that's totally fine. David shared his

[00:15:12] allow me I've had a little bit of time to think about this myself.

[00:15:16] My description what I'm working with and I'll figure out the stats as I go, obviously,

[00:15:20] in what kind of category I'm going to place him. But I would like to play someone a mixed

[00:15:26] ancestry from New Orleans. So I'm kind of thinking of, you know, someone who is, you know,

[00:15:35] French and African French and African descent. In New Orleans, I want them to,

[00:15:42] I want to have I want to make gambit, essentially, I guess you could say from the X men.

[00:15:47] So you're making a Creole is what it sounds like.

[00:15:51] So and like with the coal card thing, like,

[00:15:54] maybe not the cards like I want them I want him to be a gambler. So I'm kind of also thinking,

[00:16:00] I don't know if I'm going to throw cards. We'll see we'll see how the stats light up. It

[00:16:03] may just be a coat revolver. I'll be I'll actually be a gunslinger. I'll throw guns that materialize

[00:16:08] in my hands, but I want to be an interesting interpretation of gunslinger. I don't want to

[00:16:17] make gambit maverick. If that makes sense. If you've ever seen the old Maverick or this movie

[00:16:21] Oh, yeah, series. Yeah. So so card playing gambler, both hard to go and kind of a Robin Hood

[00:16:30] kind of, you know, rubber and rizkip to the poor possibly. Okay. What about the rest of you? So we

[00:16:36] have our southern gentleman who has been kicked out and renounced the southern aristocracy. Is

[00:16:44] that correct, David? Yes. But I've made my own way like trying to think how to put it

[00:16:51] instead of carpet bagging my way into the south, I carpet bagged my way out of it before the

[00:16:56] war. And so now that we're post reconstruction, I've actually got a solid foundation under my feet.

[00:17:04] And I'm also looking at the different styles of practitioner and trying to figure out just how

[00:17:11] exactly did I hear the otherworldly before I moved? So yeah, one of those is going to kick in.

[00:17:19] I'm either thinking that alchemy and I'm traveling in a wagon making snake oil.

[00:17:25] Nice. Or I kind of want to say no to demonology, but there is there's one called Pharaoh in,

[00:17:34] which is not a magic that can be learned, but instead one that a gambler somehow

[00:17:41] lucks into unexpectedly and just as capriciously caches out of before their time.

[00:17:49] So Pharaoh and cards believed to have been the origin of Pharaoh are scattered worldwide and

[00:17:54] filled with a touch of the Old West world magic. So that one kind of feels like it's a maybe.

[00:18:01] Okay. And if that's the case, I feel like Adam and I are, I can see how

[00:18:10] words, let's see if I can put the sentence in order before it falls right out of my mouth.

[00:18:16] I can see us being a pair of gamblers and this kind of feels like a David just because it's

[00:18:23] somebody whose luck is preternatural. Looks at my Wossenloft games. Yes. So luck or somebody

[00:18:34] that is so lucky that it is literally a form of magic. I'm going to go with Pharaoh in.

[00:18:40] Okay. You actually soak your dice in whiskey.

[00:18:45] I would not, sir. I soak my dice in rum. There's a difference.

[00:18:49] I soak my dice in whiskey. Yes. Adam's so sweet. But he learned it by watching me.

[00:18:55] Yeah. The idea I had was I'm going to be playing off of some of my roots,

[00:19:03] or at least my family roots. So I was thinking of going being a second generation Italian

[00:19:11] from Toronto or from Hogtown and traveling out to the wild west or to the frontiers

[00:19:21] because of ambitious reasons and wanting to kind of like seeing it as the place of opportunity

[00:19:29] and wanting to show the world my inventions of moving pictures, literally moving pictures.

[00:19:39] Like the camera is on spider legs. So I'm thinking of going, if you're going to allow me

[00:19:48] to do some weird science and stuff, I'd like to have a basically a city-born Canadian Italian

[00:20:00] who is also an inventor and part inventor slash filmmaker going out into the frontier

[00:20:10] to record various, like some of the various things that he's heard about

[00:20:17] using his inventions of these like basically like literally like basically mobile cameras

[00:20:22] that he has and such. Might I make, I'm totally fine with that, but might I

[00:20:26] might I make one thing for consideration? Not a, it's not a, you're secretly being

[00:20:31] assault by Anderson and his Pakerton's. Yes, I love that. He's after my copyright.

[00:20:41] I love that. And like, yeah, I kind of almost want it's like, it's always if this goes into a full

[00:20:49] game into an actual game, I want it to like, it's never fully known if I actually have

[00:20:53] my copyrights on me or if I've like, if they're somewhere else. Like I like, I kind of like

[00:21:00] that's why they're tracking white, like why they're like kind of like whether,

[00:21:03] whether shadowing me rather than just outright assassinating me.

[00:21:07] Well, I already made the outline promise that I'll run this for you. It's,

[00:21:11] so let it be written, it may take a while, but it will be done. And thus it was written.

[00:21:17] It's on the wall and totally fine with the weird west. It seems like we've kind of got

[00:21:22] a good idea here. So I got one question to ask you all before we're going to pause the

[00:21:28] recording and start starting out our characters. Actually, I got two questions.

[00:21:32] We can either do our character creation and I'm looking on page, it'd be one,

[00:21:39] 22 of the PDF, but we got particularly three different flavors we can go for.

[00:21:45] We can do just do the Western style. The Westerner is what it's called. So it really

[00:21:53] depends on how many points you get like, for each character.

[00:21:57] There's a grittier one, which is a more stripped down. You got less points and less.

[00:22:02] It's more hard boiled. Well, hard boiled makes it sound like plot wise, but it's

[00:22:08] less fantastical than the Westerner with you having as many skill points available.

[00:22:13] And then there's the far opposite one, which is called the Spaghetti-er,

[00:22:18] which is more pulpy, I guess you could say. So we can go for,

[00:22:22] you know, medium, which is Westerner, grittier, which is, you know, more stripped down and then

[00:22:28] Spaghetti-er. More grounded.

[00:22:30] So what do you all want? Spaghetti-er, which is more fantastical. I'm

[00:22:33] leaning fantastical myself, but that's me. I'm also weird. The mad inventor and the mystic

[00:22:40] are also or the mystic inclined are arguing more the Spaghetti-er.

[00:22:46] The scenario that I have kind of brewing in my head definitely lends itself to Spaghetti-er.

[00:22:51] So with the Spaghetti-er, I wanted to kind of, I don't want to row dice. So they give different

[00:23:00] parameters once you're going to operate here. So I'll read these word for word and then tell

[00:23:04] you what I want. So rolling 7d4 drop to lowest two die, add the remaining dice together for

[00:23:10] each stat and assign it as a player wishes. So D&D essentially. But we're using D4.

[00:23:17] Very interesting type of version of D&D attribute creation. But yeah.

[00:23:23] Yeah. And then we're going to do...

[00:23:26] Oh, I see. Okay. Sorry. I see what the, this how the system is. So it's giving you options for

[00:23:34] the allocation. You can either roll your, roll the attributes. You could do the point build

[00:23:38] spend or you could just assign based off of pre-generate already established numbers.

[00:23:43] See, I fucked that up too. I'm glad. Like, I was looking at this.

[00:23:46] I was looking at it. I was like, what is like, like, is the points for the skills?

[00:23:51] Oh, and then when you got to the assigning was like, where's that for? Oh, these are all options.

[00:23:55] Okay. So it sounds like Spaghetti-er is what we're shooting for here. So basically we're

[00:24:02] given four options. We have three options here. We can either rows a 74 and drop the lowest two

[00:24:08] dots, add all the remaining up for the stat and then assign it to whichever ability we want.

[00:24:15] Or you could, we could basically... There's a point spend method, 104 points spent point

[00:24:23] for point up to 20 and assigns as a player wishes. Or we could just basically do the point

[00:24:30] buy-in system where it's like, you know, you have an 18 sad, 17 sad, you know,

[00:24:34] this is basically the end dish at this point. And then so we got those three flavors,

[00:24:40] but the one thing that is a constant with this is that you're going to have a starting grid of four,

[00:24:45] which is we'll get into what grid is a little bit later on. So I think what do y'all want to use?

[00:24:52] You want to use points or you want to roll dice or what?

[00:24:56] I'm good for rolling dice.

[00:24:58] Yeah. Cool. Well, for those of you at home, so you don't hear us

[00:25:03] calculating math and then wonder about our mathematics skills that we do or do not possess,

[00:25:07] we're going to go ahead and pause this recording for a bit. And then when we get back, we will

[00:25:14] show you what we got and as we slowly put these cowboys together.

[00:25:28] Okay, I'm going to save the best for last now that we've went through and did the red one here.

[00:25:45] So I feel like I was one of the lefts or ones. So again, I've kind of thinking of a Creole

[00:25:53] gambit Maverick kind of character type. So when we were doing a row, so we wrote

[00:26:00] 74's dropped it lowest to an SS sat and then we added them to the different areas that we can

[00:26:08] have. So I wanted my character, he's kind of a gambler. There's some psychology tactics or all

[00:26:16] that. So I had a 17 and went for a 17 in awareness physique. I'm not going to make my guy as much

[00:26:22] of a 50 cuff guy. So I put it as one of my lower sets. But you know, this being the spaghettier

[00:26:28] version, we got the row extra dice. So even my lowest set, which was a 14 isn't, you know,

[00:26:34] I'm still getting a buff for that. So I got a physique of 14 reflexes of 16,

[00:26:41] a personality of 18 because like my dear friend David, I'd like to play a social butterfly who is

[00:26:49] lights up a room when they walk in technology, another dump stat of mine, lockpicking,

[00:26:57] pilot repair, tinker weapons maintenance. I put that as my other 14 knowledge skill.

[00:27:03] I put that as 14 as well. And then finally I had a resolve and I set that at 16. So that's

[00:27:11] what's going to be resilient. So you know, a fairly robust character, but I'm sure that

[00:27:17] there's more robust that we're going to encounter. But what about you craze on what you end up with?

[00:27:22] Well, whereas your character is robust, my character is going to require robots.

[00:27:28] I see what you did there. I'm going to start, I'm going to mention my highest skill and then my

[00:27:35] dump stat skill first and then everything will go in between. So I went with my max or my highest

[00:27:43] number, which was 20 into technology, which 20 is also I think the max like starting. So and

[00:27:50] then I dumped my seven into physique because I pictured my character as he is the inventor. He

[00:28:00] invents things to help his life, maybe not so much like, so he hasn't really had to, he doesn't,

[00:28:08] he works, he works smarter, not harder. You say right now, but we are going to be rolling

[00:28:14] up lineage. So this is a working theory at this moment. Yeah. So that was that thing. So and then I

[00:28:21] have personality of 18, because I also see my character kind of being a bit of a showman or

[00:28:27] like wants to be in show biz or has that kind of like personality and charisma. Then knowledge of

[00:28:37] 16, a resolve of 13 reflexes of 12 and then awareness is 15. So like I got a pretty even

[00:28:46] keel except for that seven that just died. I think I rolled like more ones than anything on that

[00:28:53] roll. I've got to compliment Spivey on his math here too, because I almost screwed up and said,

[00:28:59] no, I got a 19. But if I'm rolling four, and I take, if you're rolling a D4 and you're

[00:29:05] rolling five, you know, you're only able to keep five of them, then there's only 18 or there's 20.

[00:29:12] Yeah. So it would be very hard to get an 18.

[00:29:19] Actually, it is doable to get a 19 because I got three of them.

[00:29:23] That's true. I guess I suck at math. That's why I teach my degrees in English.

[00:29:28] Like the lowest that you can get on a 5d4 is a five. However, considering that we're rolling

[00:29:34] for the spaghetti or it we're rolling seven dice, if you ended up with seven ones,

[00:29:42] your dice hate you so much. And I do not have that problem.

[00:29:49] No, you did not have that problem at all. I did not. The lowest that I rolled was an 18.

[00:29:57] And I rolled one of those. Then I've got three each of 19s and 20s because these dice apparently

[00:30:05] love the fact that I soak them in rum. Although to be fair, I think only one of these is a

[00:30:11] dye that's ever had a taste of it. The rest of them have just been in the bucket with the other

[00:30:16] dice and they just got to see the light of day today and rolled really well for me.

[00:30:21] Sweet dice.

[00:30:23] Sweet. So 2020, 2019, 1918 or something like that?

[00:30:28] Yes. And off of my off of my lineage, the first thing that happens.

[00:30:37] Table that real quick David. We'll move into lineage.

[00:30:41] Oh yeah, shoot. I guess yeah. Technically one of my stats, one of my skills is actually

[00:30:47] one less because I did also add that. That's fine. I mean we can go into it.

[00:30:51] I apologize for interrupting there David. I was about to say the 18 that I placed without even knowing

[00:30:59] is the one that got bumped up to a 19. So the lowest stat I have on my sheet

[00:31:05] at this particular moment in time is tied for 19s. I feel like I'm going to die very quickly in

[00:31:13] this game. We'll see.

[00:31:22] Let's also appreciate that David here pulled out cards to acquire some of his numbers, right?

[00:31:35] For the Pharaoh because basically my magic is going to be determined off of

[00:31:42] cards and basically I got to draw three cards plus one or actually I got to roll

[00:31:48] one d3 cards plus one. And so I pulled a hand of five cards and I got the dead man's hand.

[00:31:55] Which also is the name of the style of game that we're running today in the Midwest.

[00:32:02] The picture that he took of that is also the Alpamart that you are going to notice for this

[00:32:07] episode. So we kind of believe it. I just had to spotlight that for David.

[00:32:13] By all means now we're going to we're kind of kind of lewd to how David got this here,

[00:32:16] but the next step we have is our humble beginnings and this is kind of a nice call out to

[00:32:22] well not a nice call out but the wrong word I'm using there. But I like this about other

[00:32:28] tabletop role playing games that we did like Aqualoria or Goranth or stuff like that.

[00:32:32] I played where you got your random row tables. So we're getting ready to oh yeah definitely

[00:32:39] we're getting ready to go into our backgrounds and this is going to help us to kind of flesh out

[00:32:44] right now we got kind of working ideas so our humble beginnings of milestones step two.

[00:32:49] I'm going to read directly from the book here. Mildstones are at the heart of the character

[00:32:53] creation process. They highlight key points and counters and people that helped describe

[00:32:56] who the Paragon is from the moment of birth to later in life. But these milestones don't

[00:33:01] define the Paragon. Instead they're a tool used to build a unique story. They're written in an

[00:33:06] open-ended manner to provide the context for the player, context for the story you're crafting.

[00:33:13] And each requires a player and a baladier which is me to work together in building the

[00:33:18] story. Now we're also going to be dealing with the humble beginnings milestones so

[00:33:25] we're good that's the first one we're going to roll off on here or choose because I'm kind

[00:33:30] of we already have kind of character concepts so we're either have the option of choosing for your

[00:33:36] milestone from your humble beginning for me or you're going to roll now I'm going to roll but

[00:33:42] I'm going to kind of mix something here from my character in the beginning. I'm seeing this as

[00:33:49] being in you know late 1800s like 1890s time period like that so due to the fact that the

[00:33:57] Civil War is over I'm going to mix off on my random row table the enslaved which was you were born

[00:34:07] to one or more enslaved well no wait I guess it does work you were born to one or more enslaved

[00:34:13] parents you might have been born into chateau labor or bordered labor since emancipation you

[00:34:19] retained an enslaved your status in some form of indentured servitude so I initially I was just going

[00:34:29] to covally take that one completely off because I was saying that my character was born prior to

[00:34:35] that but you know what I'm I think I'm gonna let my dice roll and let it tell me what I'm gonna do

[00:34:42] but while I'm digging for a die I'll the sea of red and black detents that I have for some

[00:34:47] red markets he reason what did everybody else get on this I know some of y'all want to sit further

[00:34:54] well for my character since I was kind of going with an Italian Canadian or like Italian from Toronto

[00:35:01] and then like moved out to the the west for inventor and filmmaking kind of reasons

[00:35:08] being a second generation Italian my character is going to go with the immigrant lineage

[00:35:15] I am not going to use the I'm not gonna let the die roll I'm it just it's it fits my character

[00:35:19] like the character concept I came up with yeah um and so as a result uh I get a plus one to my

[00:35:27] personality which I had already added when I mentioned my attributes before so that's why

[00:35:34] I have an 18 in personality now rather than a 17 I also get plus five in language of my type

[00:35:41] so Italian I assume um plus five in psychology and a plus five in survival with a type but I

[00:35:48] don't know what those types are for survival we'll cross it we'll figure it out we'll fit yeah yeah

[00:35:56] so that's what I got for immigrant yep now I rolled and I got a seven so I ended up with

[00:36:03] the elite you were born into a family who owns the means of production and enjoys all of the

[00:36:08] spoils of it so um I started with a plus one in technology which was my weakest stat but I've

[00:36:15] got a bonus in business deception and ride so plus five to percent to each of those skills

[00:36:23] okay well I'm going to go ahead and roll the dice for myself here and see what we got

[00:36:31] so I wrote a three so it looks like I was born lower class okay so you were born of a family

[00:36:38] working primarily with their hands in skilled and unskilled labor a respectable living but

[00:36:43] one that doesn't afford much social advancement so I'm going to get a plus one to my reflex

[00:36:49] score so that's going to take me up as I scroll through this to a 17 in reflexes

[00:36:57] and then I'm going to get a craft uh five percent observation five percent and resilience

[00:37:04] so yeah that seemed pretty cool I'll go ahead and record these and I tell you there's something

[00:37:10] I forgot to mention too well we were assigning points there was also secondary traits that we

[00:37:16] we did so we also have kind of it's probably not worth noting here but you take certain

[00:37:21] stats and add them up and then divide it by 10 and whatnot and that'll give you like your

[00:37:25] initiative your physique is kind of almost right at dnd like you know whatever your physique is so I

[00:37:32] got like a plus one because I had a 14 I'm physique uh so there's a form that a couple other little

[00:37:38] things that we figured out are stana and whatnot break out of d6 for the next step okay I guess

[00:37:46] actually I do have a dime actually use my actual dice six I'm going to break out one of the golden

[00:37:51] girl dices the girls were hot last week let's see if they keep going should I should I use a

[00:37:57] mutant year zero die or a um uh tails from the loop die mutant year zero I have better experiences

[00:38:04] with it I'm breaking out a perfectly fresh set of dice that has never been rolled for anything

[00:38:11] never been near other dice just to keep this you guys keep other dots in hand

[00:38:19] so number of siblings let me read this off to you were you an only child

[00:38:24] did you have a slew of siblings determine how many siblings the paragon has and how many of them

[00:38:30] survived adulthood for the result indicating row on the life events or family relations table

[00:38:37] note the rows and be to be made after your adolescence rows this establishes

[00:38:43] living relatives and current relations so first off you're going to row a d6 yep so

[00:38:51] you know you're from one being one dose being twins three being two siblings but not twins

[00:38:58] and then so forth on to uh you know a multitude so let's see cheese cake cheese cake I'm an only

[00:39:09] child four hey only child bros all right so I have three living siblings I wrote a four so I got a three

[00:39:20] and all right I'm looking for a number of siblings so we'll see at the bottom of your sheet Chris

[00:39:26] you're also going to see like we're uh like oh yeah it's also got a feel for lineages like

[00:39:33] lower class siblings I have three and for me I've got a row of d10 on the life events table

[00:39:43] so we don't roll that now but we just make a note of it yeah okay I think that's why there's

[00:39:48] the extra little space well there's space directly under number of siblings and you can either

[00:39:55] jot that down in the milestones part of the sheet or I've got a notepad up

[00:40:00] mm-hmm yeah I'm putting that in my in a google doc I have a google doc for like the stats and stuff so

[00:40:06] I got a shit sheet as you all call it Chris uh let's write stuff down on paper um okay so

[00:40:14] who raised you yeah who raised you find out more about where you come from family is essential

[00:40:20] and sometimes it's the kindness of strangers that raise children left alone in the world maybe

[00:40:24] a paragons original family died on the organ trail going west or met some other grizzly faith

[00:40:31] if the result indicates a row on a life events or family relations table note the rows to be made

[00:40:37] but don't make them until you reach those tables so okay so we have so it's like the other so

[00:40:44] we're gonna roll a d8 freaking that bad boy out or oh my god I

[00:40:51] I for some reason like I was like all right well my character is a one only child watch I'm

[00:40:58] going to end up on orphan and I got five life for you yeah yep I had both parents I rolled a three

[00:41:08] I wrote an eight now that puts me as a family friend so a family friend raised you and I'm

[00:41:15] I'm going to add one d8 to the life events table you got three um so did uh Chris no I didn't get

[00:41:21] three I got I got three oh okay sorry okay yeah yeah so Chris and I both ended up with both of our

[00:41:27] parents both parental figures are present um so that means that you get to add two d12 for the

[00:41:36] life events table so when we get to that spot you get to roll twice for your parents

[00:41:40] and I get to roll one d4 this is fun I like these kind of things okay next one to be fair it's one

[00:41:48] of the best parts of the cyberpunk character creation from the old school was rolling on the

[00:41:53] life path table oh yeah I I recall one of those games on rppr and the the wacky shenanigans that

[00:42:03] came out of the character creator next we have first lessons what were your first lessons

[00:42:09] about life society and fairness and what it takes to get along what skills and tendencies did you pick

[00:42:15] up if you were born enslaved did you escape were you born destitute how did you survive if you came

[00:42:22] from somewhere else what drove you to the west and what did it have uh what did you have to give

[00:42:28] up to get there there are eight first lesson tables one for each option of the lineage find

[00:42:35] the one that matches your lineage and uh these for the environment your paragraph grew up in

[00:42:43] with parental figures and what they learned so I am going for the lower class going for immigrant

[00:42:50] so I will roll a d6 I'm on the elite table so I get to roll a d6

[00:42:55] I'm rolling a d6 off for the other uh so I rolled a one again so I'm uh do you mind if I

[00:43:05] go ahead okay uh so I've got the merchant so my family has strong connections everywhere

[00:43:12] as they are in imports and exports they can get practically anything with a little time

[00:43:18] but I'm an orphan and uh and a single it only job

[00:43:26] so I guess I'm I'm also just partly in I did I don't know if we're supposed to do our age yet

[00:43:31] but I did like I said my in like my mid 20s so I guess I'm just like well connected through like

[00:43:38] through the or through like through like from my bootstraps I guess

[00:43:42] or like how does that work how's this gonna work for this

[00:43:50] oh oh my god I I rolled five opulent where did all of this cash come from maybe your

[00:43:58] family owns a brothel a rising rail road legacy or something shady nice the fact of the light

[00:44:06] of where did all of this cash come from well I have a slew here I'm in a row alive here and

[00:44:12] see what we got so five six worker your parental caretakers trade their body for money the work

[00:44:23] is a lot more um uh honest than the work me the engagement so yeah so uh brothel baby

[00:44:35] uh let's see so what about this sir so what is the difference between negotiation and wily

[00:44:43] oh because I got like because it gives you a like a choice like so it's like for the for the merchant

[00:44:49] for example I get a plus one to personality um a plus 10 to business or trade uh a plus 10 to

[00:44:56] expression or psychology and then attend to negotiation or wily I don't know now I don't know

[00:45:04] what wily does but I know that I'm taking it because for my options uh mine are plus one to reflexes

[00:45:15] and then I've got plus 10 to bluff or legio domain uh plus 10 to counter fitting or gambling

[00:45:21] so I'm taking gambling and then plus 10 to low profile or wily so I'm taking wily I'm going to be

[00:45:29] wandering the west at a purple suit I don't feel like low profile is going to be something I'm

[00:45:34] going to be taking a lot of yeah I want to let's be fair I want to apologize guys I can't read

[00:45:43] I wrote a two which is a five upside down so I was actually a drover my family was drover so

[00:45:50] yeah I'll keep the sex worker it's fine yeah keep the sex work it's fine keep sex work okay I'll take

[00:45:55] sex worker uh for for 900 alex yeah sex worker does work I have gambling I get a and I kind of

[00:46:04] made that my whole thing my only complaint about this entire process is when I'm going for the stats

[00:46:11] I got to go from different columns it's not like alphabetical of course each stat select link

[00:46:16] to core competency I guess I sorry I yeah um I just so I'm looking at like it's like business

[00:46:24] and like trade and some of that like it gives you a type and such I think I know what my character's

[00:46:28] business like why like where my mercantile this is or where my connections all came from um show

[00:46:34] business like yeah I think like that's like where my business trade is like I've got like

[00:46:42] I know about the uh like stage business and such okay let's see we'll go past these here looks like

[00:46:51] we are um okay I just went past it that's the two adolescence okay so in the adolescence section

[00:47:03] you're finally starting to come to your own your adolescence marks the transition from child

[00:47:07] to close to enough close enough to adult this comes as benefits of course new freedoms responsibilities

[00:47:13] opportunities but also new dangers if you weren't owed enough to be put to work before you might have

[00:47:19] been by now and where you might have gotten away with harmless pranks to the kid you suddenly

[00:47:26] found yourself facing real consequences did you spend your adolescence adolescence scrapping a

[00:47:32] living out on the ground out of the ground or plucking your livelihood from our very strangers

[00:47:38] pockets did you find that you had a talent for leading a gang or realize that you felt more

[00:47:47] yourself the further away from others you were was your home life fairly stable and secure or

[00:47:52] did you have to pull up the stakes before you had a chance to make friends did you sit on

[00:47:58] your parents knee and start learning a trade or did you lose yourself in books and arts etc etc

[00:48:04] so it looks like gentlemen we're gonna find us a d12 I'm very nervous about this because

[00:48:13] also we lost chris um yeah i can't family uh situation so yeah totally understandable so

[00:48:22] all right gentlemen go ahead and row it up here what do you got

[00:48:25] all right a seven which says slowly passing through this artwork because

[00:48:34] how did this a very awkwardly placed piece of art no not that i'm like what i rolled

[00:48:44] oh um i i rolled raised in the wilderness now you have to know how those feral orphans work

[00:48:52] i mean you were a fairly i am i just i just want to say i have but i am uh i am an orph uh only child

[00:49:01] orphan of of italian immigrants raised in the wilderness who's also a mad inventor and in show

[00:49:09] business you so what did your favorite parents tell you about the wilds apparently so raised in

[00:49:18] the wilderness uh that little cabin in the woods was far from civilization but he who needs that when

[00:49:25] you've got all the of all of the nature as your schoolhouse i i apparently like figured out robotics

[00:49:35] from studying like actual like insects and arachnids or something in the wilderness

[00:49:42] newton had an apple supposedly on his head and he discovered real too you had the apple

[00:49:46] oh my god on your head yeah like i had spiders uh i had spiders and like crawdads and such to uh

[00:49:55] um or as we call them up here crayfish to um uh to to to to study and look at the carapace

[00:50:02] and it's like hmm what makes them tick oh god so my first robots were actually just like

[00:50:10] frankenstein's monsters of crustaceans of crayfish i love how this works it's okay crab

[00:50:18] it's okay crab bot daddy loves you crab bot daddy loves your crab bot crab battles

[00:50:25] crab cat uh fear the crab cat so what did what'd you wrote a but i rolled a seven so raised at war

[00:50:33] your parental figure was a soldier and you know just what it takes to be one or at least to

[00:50:37] be mistaken for one so apparently the curdle actually did fight good to know nice um i get to add

[00:50:46] 22 a bunch of things um archery or long arms athletics or short arms command or tactics uh

[00:50:56] ride or weapons maintenance so i think that i'm going to take long arms short arms command and

[00:51:01] ride now you didn't say who you fought for so there's a lot of freedom there let's see i am going to

[00:51:07] go ahead and roll um to be fair with long arms and short arms um because of what i know of this

[00:51:14] american civil war what that means is if you know both pistols and rifles and writing that means

[00:51:21] that you were cavalry and to be fair most of the time if you were cavalry in the south

[00:51:30] that meant that you came from money because you could afford your own horse but if you were in the

[00:51:35] north you were actually well equipped so i can see just that nope fucking off over the border to the

[00:51:42] north i'm gonna go ahead and roll mine yep and okay also just while you're doing that um

[00:51:51] yeah i go ahead i was just gonna say like yeah so for my bonuses or like my my percentiles i add

[00:51:59] i'm going 20 in short arms uh survival since i already had survival uh observation and stealth

[00:52:08] i wrote raves in the wilderness and i'm gonna drop that because you already got that so i'm

[00:52:12] gonna i'm gonna go i'm gonna roll again just to see something different that's fair yeah

[00:52:17] seven what did you wrote david i also rolled seven but it's okay you could go for a different

[00:52:24] north it's all good it doesn't match with my age i would stick with it but i'm wanting

[00:52:28] something different that no one else had and that looks like that number is 10

[00:52:35] that one is raised in academia you were raised by educated people educated cowboys

[00:52:42] trade you that uh trade your academia for the wilderness

[00:52:47] out of the wilderness would do me better than academia for my height i think you want to swap

[00:52:55] just say mulligate on swaps yeah well as much as much as i like the idea of you making crawl daddy

[00:53:03] raw dead bots yeah i think i think it makes more sense for my character that's one thing that

[00:53:08] i was like starting to worry about like by the second table it's like oh well my character is now

[00:53:13] an orphan like like the ideas i had i have to like kind of augment to change this and then it

[00:53:18] goes into this i was like oh no this could go really bad yeah i'm totally fine i mean you guys are

[00:53:25] the ones playing i'm just kind of reeling up for shits and giggles yeah we can we can stumble

[00:53:30] across your character at some point too so yeah i'll go for so it gives me my okay so my short

[00:53:35] arm yeah where's academia i'll go ahead and stay out here this makes more sense expression or

[00:53:40] mechanics yeah okay yeah i need yeah i need you need this yeah language or research um other

[00:53:48] language or scholar type and then science or arts type so yeah that that's that's definitely you yeah

[00:53:57] um yeah it's probably gonna be like research scholar and then science

[00:54:03] uh so i mean this makes more sense too i was a cat my parents for cow pokes

[00:54:10] so that's funny as it would have been

[00:54:14] this is where i think my cow poke sent me to college i mean that means they didn't send me

[00:54:19] away basically it's just like yeah this is that's like the chaotic nature of of rolling randomly

[00:54:26] mm-hmm oh don't worry we got more random tables chris oh Jesus okay yeah and for those uh

[00:54:33] i'm not going to go back and edit uh crystal chris completely out but something came up so

[00:54:38] chris yeah i had to step away yeah he has to deal with his uh his young one so yeah so as a as a

[00:54:45] parent i totally understand that so you know we may not have his character sheet ready for

[00:54:50] you when you go to download this but you'll have these three yeah so apprenticeship as a young adult

[00:54:55] you begin to provide for yourself by learning and occupation this is the time you make your

[00:54:59] choices for yourself i'm a real boy now perhaps you went into the family business kept dry goods

[00:55:05] store or served at rowdy cowboys at a saloon hey there big fellas if you had a good head up

[00:55:12] for books or the right kind of patronage you might have gone off to a teacher's college

[00:55:17] or gone back east to an ivy league school you might have served in the military on one side of

[00:55:22] the mexican-american war the civil war or the indian wars or received an education from the

[00:55:30] school of hard knocks think about your teacher your boss or master were they generous patient

[00:55:36] tyrannical violent did they value your help or did they take you only as a favor to someone

[00:55:43] you can choose your own path and the results once you roll the table the table below so we're

[00:55:48] getting there so once you've chosen apprenticeship take a moment to think about how you got there

[00:55:54] if you started as part of the elite then joined the military you were an officer

[00:56:00] or did you get into trouble to and enlist to get away from some greater danger

[00:56:06] if you grew up enslaved or in an indigenous community and wound up in united states

[00:56:11] ivory towers how did you overcome the barriers and prejudices to get there the story of the west

[00:56:17] was one of rapid change the story of your life is no different this is beautiful i can't wait

[00:56:23] to see what we do so basically what we're supposed to do here is so you roll a d12 and

[00:56:29] then each of the different ones has a question that it gets asked so like for instance on a number

[00:56:37] four servitude are you in service by choice or is this forced servitude and so each of those has

[00:56:44] a table underneath it gives you a benefit and then it also gives you

[00:56:48] plus 20 to four different skills and each of them gives you two choices so i rolled a 10

[00:56:58] military service so it just doves tails very nicely into that no no it's time for you to go fight

[00:57:04] boy well i wanted 11 which was entertainment but the dice are like no you're a shop worker

[00:57:15] so you were most likely apprenticed to someone who passed on their knowledge to you oh my god

[00:57:23] jeep atto oh my god yeah i just realized yeah it was really like wait so there was another mad

[00:57:29] scientist or a mad inventor who look he may have had to see his robot catalog that people ordered from

[00:57:37] but when the lights went out he was you know rick and moron oh god no nicola tesla when was he born

[00:57:47] when did he when was he like doing his work was that in the night in the early 90s like 1990s

[00:57:52] or let's google him let's google him oh god nick nicola tesla

[00:58:00] all right what are you doing that i'm gonna roll yeah he's by all means um 1856 was when he was born

[00:58:08] and 94 or 43 was when he died 1943 his education was 1870 his education ended in 1873 so he was

[00:58:21] assumably doing work in the 1890s so that means yes you can have been i could be apprenticed

[00:58:30] you could be apprenticed to tesla oh my god that's awesome take it hey yeah hey hey uh

[00:58:37] he get he then gained practical experience in the early 1880s working in telephony and at continental

[00:58:43] edison in the new atlantic uh or a new electric power industry in 1884 he emigrated to the us

[00:58:50] in 1884 he emigrated to the us and became a national citizen he worked for a short time in

[00:58:55] the edison machine works in new york before he struck out on his own oh my god by 1888

[00:59:02] he was doing his own stuff yes it's perfect oh my god so what was that you were saying about

[00:59:13] you would rather be entertaining yeah yeah yeah perfect robots they're electric powers uh so we're

[00:59:24] going tesla punk this is what i'm hearing uh where the heck is my oh god i wrote a seven

[00:59:32] so the long journey you traveled a long way and then your travels you learned a great deal

[00:59:38] well i got i got some different options here uh so we'll see how this all adds up i could either you

[00:59:46] know drive ride navigate short arms scholar or tracking i mean i could basically be a

[00:59:56] skilled traveler jack of all trades or a skilled trader gain an extra jack on which an extra 10

[01:00:03] i basically get an extra 10 on um animal handling or an extra 10 on like scholarly

[01:00:11] culture kind of stuff i'm thinking hmm i just the idea to be a skilled traveler

[01:00:18] man this is good this is good this random table does not disappoint gentlemen

[01:00:24] so i'm typing up some extra details in my into each category no i'm trying to figure out what

[01:00:29] work yeah all right so i got ride navigation i'm i'm doubling down on short arms i'm gonna be a gun

[01:00:37] slinger yeah so at this point um i've also doubled down on short arms and long arms

[01:00:45] and kind of tripled on rides so i've got short arms at 40 long arms at 40 ride at 45

[01:00:53] but then again i ended up with two different ones that basically it's like you like guns would

[01:00:58] you like to learn guns here's guns throw these guns shoot these guns maintain these guns i haven't

[01:01:05] actually taken any points and weapon maintenance so i kind of feel like the the elite side of it is

[01:01:13] still the well that was a good battle here clean these because i'm tracking so i think i'm gonna

[01:01:21] go for scholar for knowledge so i've learned on the road okay sorry uh what do we put our skilled

[01:01:31] wrangler um well skilled wrangler excuse me i'm trying to look for that i'm sure it's a sheet

[01:01:38] part on the character sheet here for the keep up with your jacks all right we'll see

[01:01:44] oh family relations are we on that side was this adolescence or was this uh this was uh this was

[01:01:49] adolescence uh yeah sorry apprenticeship yeah this was apprenticeship yeah i need to record these

[01:01:56] other ones i fucked this up i think i was raised just just gonna what why you're looking for that

[01:02:02] i'm just gonna put down what i got so lineage immigrant parents came to toronto from italy

[01:02:08] number of siblings only child explains itself really um who who raised you orphan parents died

[01:02:14] was orphaned but fortunately took to books uh first lessons merchant my parents were well

[01:02:20] connected merchants and so i inherited many connections um adolescence uh raised in academia

[01:02:28] education majored in electricity and engineering apprenticeship shop worker eventually apprenticed

[01:02:35] under nicola tesla that's amazing i can't yeah i'm so i'm really awesome adam i'm really glad we

[01:02:44] we swapped the no i thought who knows what my character would have gotten if we hadn't gotten that

[01:02:50] we would have known nicola tesla found you would have went over robotic chrome head

[01:02:54] yes oh my god that would damn it that actually would have been like that tesla would have

[01:03:00] loved that you know that i think that's a god damn web comic like that's how atomic robo got

[01:03:05] got started actually that does sound like kind of an atomic robo uh plot line second life yeah

[01:03:12] i'm working ready to get to the last uh have we done family relations is that already done

[01:03:20] well family relations is one that we roll if we've got siblings i think yeah you're right yes

[01:03:28] although i get to roll i think i get to i have two things that roll for this well we got family

[01:03:34] relations and then we've got life events yes and i don't have any family to roll on the family

[01:03:41] relations so yeah that's how well that's why i got orphaned yeah yeah because yeah sorry so i got

[01:03:46] family relations where'd i got my sheet of paper oh it's under the nice duh all right so well i

[01:03:54] mean i think we all get to roll family relations here and then you got additional on the last thing

[01:03:58] or something except we're we're orphans so we don't have family relations

[01:04:04] you don't have family to relations with unless there's distant cousins that

[01:04:09] the orphan and the only child don't know about yeah i'm gonna scroll back up to the table real

[01:04:15] quick and make sure yeah yeah just quickly check that maybe in one of three i think i had three

[01:04:22] other siblings to see family relations oh so you get to roll like three times uh i don't think so i think

[01:04:30] it's just like if they like you or they don't like you or kind of i don't i think only have to roll

[01:04:37] at once okay i would see sometimes they love you sometimes they don't i was um i wrote a two that

[01:04:46] is favored uh you are this family's favorite member you were they rely on you to help uh from

[01:04:53] they rely on help from this family member in the worst of circumstances uh so loyal and willing

[01:05:02] to perform minor dangerous or criminal attestive acts if a favorite is parental the next family

[01:05:10] relations okay maybe i'm getting confused here okay um so favored uh you're you are this family's

[01:05:21] so then the result is loyal and willing to perform minor dangerous criminal acts if a

[01:05:27] if a favorite is parental oh so maybe yeah you are okay let's go back up to where you're so where

[01:05:34] where's the um number of siblings yeah where's the number of siblings because maybe that's

[01:05:39] so i looked on that and it just says roll on the life path so i'm guessing that at this point

[01:05:44] family relations we have to roll it um yeah depending on what family you have is um like

[01:05:53] so for instance liked if you're liked enough that at least one of your family members likes you

[01:05:58] at least one member of your family cares for you so mom said thinks that you're awesome or

[01:06:04] or uncle sherry loves you in the way i'm reading this is like for example favored i can either choose

[01:06:12] to be the family's favorite member and then i can also or i could choose that you can rely on help

[01:06:19] from this family member yeah it says here um for a result indicating a role on the life events or

[01:06:27] family related why is it i don't yeah because i'm looking i'm on the uh number of siblings

[01:06:32] section and i'm not seeing anything for uh i don't i think it's family relations it's i think

[01:06:38] choose your spot or you choose someone's spot in your life is what i did david is that what you're

[01:06:43] getting kind of sort of yeah um because it's a d6 table um i would push for just skipping over it

[01:06:52] if you don't have family because at this point um i set my age at 45 yeah because i figured that

[01:07:00] i am the only survivor of the family considering that i was an only child and parents generally

[01:07:06] don't live into their 60s during the old west so yeah i'm assuming that i am the last so i'm not

[01:07:13] even going to bother on that table if that's all right with you i'm just gonna nope yeah i yeah

[01:07:20] i think this is basically like if you want to do the family relations and if you have family

[01:07:24] relations you roll this for each um uh like sibling or or family yeah like for each sibling i think

[01:07:32] suddenly thinking of the uh patrick swazy centered north and south that lovely mini series where

[01:07:41] he's got the one sister that everybody in the family hates yeah but then he's got that other

[01:07:50] sister that everybody loves and then in the end it turns out that yeah the house burned down and

[01:07:56] the one who is supposed to be the one who owned it is the sister that everyone hates so all right

[01:08:02] so what i'm going to end up doing since i'm a odyssey three myself uh of course i have

[01:08:08] three other siblings here i'm going to say that being the big brother i'm kind of you know i

[01:08:16] took care of my siblings i'm everybody's favorite i don't want it to come to when they need money or

[01:08:20] they need help or advice or things like that there's something that's kind of familiar me being the

[01:08:25] only adult child anyway it's kind of a lot of things kind of feel to me in life and you know

[01:08:31] i'm not begrudging of it but that seems like a nice narrative hook that if my sister in the game

[01:08:39] has uh been you know tied to the train tracks by a jilted lover then you know i would come

[01:08:47] rescue her kind of thing yeah all right so i guess uh lot of events yep so now yeah we have had

[01:08:56] modifications to this one right yes something like because me and uh and david i think have

[01:09:04] we have we roll a diet we can we roll a diet 12 but we also roll a diet four um so we have

[01:09:11] i've got three events and minor all the 12s okay i only have okay that's interesting because i only

[01:09:17] have two we get a default one and then some of the other things gave it so okay okay so so or

[01:09:24] default to 12 the way i understand it okay then i'm i'm also going to go ahead and row

[01:09:31] a 10 and a six oh here's a six cheese kick and let me find a d10 so we can just go ahead

[01:09:44] what the okay okay hello uh so my my academic robot builder like tesla punk got um 11 for my default

[01:09:57] one uh bumper crop the communities heard or crops had a great year therefore i started with $50 worth

[01:10:05] of food hide or a mix of both mm i don't know where that how i'm gonna add that how i'm going to

[01:10:14] weave that into my backstory but all right so i wrote one so i was attacked your home was

[01:10:23] attacked by outside forces well given the nature of the view that makes sense the attack resulted

[01:10:30] in the destruction of property injury to yourself or family members possibly the death of one or

[01:10:36] more loved ones i also rolled a six which i can definitely tie in with this because six is religion

[01:10:46] a new religious movement catches your parental figures attention uh one or both parental figures

[01:10:52] start following a new religious movement that might result in a separation of the family hold on

[01:11:00] i i've got another i've got one that's also going to be very like um dramatic but i'll hold on

[01:11:07] my last one is migration you have to move to a new location all right so and i gain

[01:11:17] an unreliable peri-screwner so hear me out my parents converted or Mormonism

[01:11:28] and Mormons were persecuted in the east coast weren't they not uh that's why they moved out

[01:11:35] to salt lake city yeah are you well they well they got kind of persecuted across uh across the

[01:11:42] country until they hit salt lake yeah so to be fair they actually started out in Missouri

[01:11:50] if you look at the map there's the Missouri side of the Kansas City border and that was the city

[01:11:58] of independence which was a Mormon town independence Missouri was the Mormon town up until they got

[01:12:06] pushed out of Missouri and then the wagons went west and so they went all the way out to Utah

[01:12:13] and just basically that became Mormon country all right so so sorry do you need to keep going or

[01:12:22] no i'm just gonna say convert converted to Mormonism the family was attacked and um

[01:12:31] you know i'm always kind of hearing i'd say that possibly my characters uh the family's the patriarch

[01:12:38] of the family died in the attack and we managed to revive and sell whatever we had and uh moved out

[01:12:48] west on a peri-screwner kind of thing we have one of the so i may even start i don't know if you

[01:12:55] will you tell territory at least is where my character may end up from New Orleans okay so

[01:13:02] let me lay down the soap opera that i've just created from this role oh i can't wait so i got a

[01:13:09] so i started off with the uh the 11 which was the bumper crop so community herds uh or the crops

[01:13:16] were good this i maybe maybe i'll leave that as like maybe i'll translate that as like um like

[01:13:22] my my uh my business was good or something like that like what like my my invention one of my

[01:13:27] inventions took took uh took hold or something like that and so i was able to make about 50 bucks

[01:13:33] yeah i'll go with that but the the big surprise for my my my next role because i had to roll

[01:13:40] another d12 as part of my um uh as part of i believe it was my is one of the other ones

[01:13:47] above that we did uh sibling i have a surprise sibling uh with me apparently um because i even

[01:13:57] though i was an only child and orphaned because my parents died um i'm going to say a uh a younger

[01:14:07] brother or sister um arrived on my doorstep claiming to be um uh claiming to be my uh like

[01:14:16] my um uh my brother or sister but yeah no so it's like uh yeah so maybe like maybe my parents didn't

[01:14:24] die like maybe i didn't see or like uh like maybe either my one of my mom or dad had an affair

[01:14:32] um before they died and this kid had the same issue like had the same circumstance where like

[01:14:39] their mother or like or parentage died and so um they they've seeked me out

[01:14:46] mm-hmm uh because they have no one else um like me so now i have a i have a ward at 24 years old

[01:14:56] i have a ward that's how that's almost middle age back the interest yeah yeah that's true yeah um and

[01:15:01] then on top of that i had uh i got to roll a d4 also i had to roll a d4 for the sibling to make

[01:15:07] sure they didn't die at childbirth uh and i rolled a two so they didn't die um but then i had to

[01:15:13] roll another d4 as part of my um i believe is part of the the uh like being an or an only child

[01:15:20] thing um so i got attacked um so i rolled i rolled on the attack one so um i don't know if maybe

[01:15:29] somebody maybe that's what maybe that was the start of like uh edison and his and his pinkertons

[01:15:36] attacked attacked uh attacked me while i was printing at um with nicola tesla and that's when

[01:15:41] i me and my uh my uh my my younger sibling need to just like vamoose and go west because it's it's

[01:15:50] a land of opportunity let's go that way as long as we're getting away from these guys that's which

[01:15:59] is fair so yeah i have uh yeah i had an invention that that made me 50 bucks or sold well enough

[01:16:08] to make me 50 bucks um i also acquired a a long lost sibling and then i was attacked by the pinkertons

[01:16:19] for my my my uh my inventions so i was attacked as well so i feel like we are we all have that

[01:16:28] commonality in background we all have arrived we all have somebody like attacking us yeah but um

[01:16:35] here's where it gets a little bit different um after the attack things went well um one of my parents

[01:16:42] migrated because of the gold rush and we got a big claim so an extra hundred and fifty dollars

[01:16:48] and then i got an inheritance of two hundred dollars so i got attacked and then i got money nice

[01:16:56] that does sound pretty cool people broke into my house to give us cash

[01:17:00] so wait were they they we're from the order of say of uh uh of saint nicolas

[01:17:11] because you're going to take this money and you're going to like it we're gonna stuff these

[01:17:16] we're gonna stuff this money into your socks and leave them at your window but i don't

[01:17:22] want you to leave them in my window take the money okay will you'll be a veritable long john

[01:17:30] silver as they're just loading silver into your long johns i don't think that that's what the book

[01:17:36] was about it's like we're getting on i don't think there's anything else i just kind of put my

[01:17:42] my peri schooner on a random spot on the character sheet whoever looks at this in the future

[01:17:47] it says sundries i count a peri schooner yeah sundries it it goes under sundries

[01:17:55] so we see i think we're almost to the arch type uh yes we're getting there yeah so we are going to

[01:18:01] be rolling on our um well let's see looking at mine i've got paragon core propensities

[01:18:09] and then i've got a bunch of sundries which here's the funny part i start with two d six

[01:18:16] dollars so the most i would start with just off of my paragon is 12 dollars i've got 350

[01:18:24] from my life path not so i'm starting i kind of feel like money is a thing um but i also start with

[01:18:35] a certain amount of ammo three sets of appropriate attire mystical objects in my case objects

[01:18:42] appropriate to the cultural background of the paragon etc so in my case i've got four cards

[01:18:48] in my breast pocket an unreliable quarter horse and then a war bag saddlebags bedroll stationary set

[01:18:56] in various occult texts so i think everybody else has picked this out i'll kind of go ahead and read

[01:19:02] this for recording purposes here but so after the humble beginnings milestone oh never mind uh

[01:19:10] i'm trying to see where it actually tells us to start on this on the paragon it gives like a

[01:19:14] little introduction here about myths and whatnot uh we'll see it seems a little out of order or is that

[01:19:22] just me uh i think i think the top ones are explaining some of the stuff that you'll find in the different

[01:19:29] okay paragon stuff architect so i guess i should just go ahead and pick out a paragon uh yeah i

[01:19:35] think so yeah okay so the 12 paragons we had the academic to drove her the gadget here which

[01:19:43] is spoken for the gunfighter did you say you were drove her david uh chris was leaning towards

[01:19:50] drove chris chris chris is drove her okay i'm the practitioner practitioner because i somewhere

[01:19:57] along the lines i got the magical cards yeah i thought you were going to go with gunfighter

[01:20:02] earlier uh adam you were you were either thinking gunfighter or gambler but i don't think gambler

[01:20:08] is actually one of the paragods no i think that i'm just going to go for um i was sick with my

[01:20:17] my uh original idea i'm gonna go with the gunfighter i did kind of load up on small arms i

[01:20:23] didn't have i don't have any long arms at the moment but uh so i guess i'll go ahead and um

[01:20:31] see gunfighter yeah would you be okay if i um changed it my the wagon with two mules to a uh

[01:20:39] um the spider wagon first i've never said no to your spider wagon and it'll be it will be

[01:20:47] unreliable so it'll be like it just gotta be like very like it's it's a work in progress it's a

[01:20:52] prototype no it's fine dude totally fine for nice wagon you've got there you know most people

[01:20:59] will just stick with you know wheels but go you oh god and then i can also get a uh so also it gives

[01:21:06] you like pistol unreliable unless it's modified which then counts as one gadget what do i have

[01:21:13] what if i have an ark pistol a tesla pistol i'm sorry adam i'm i'm turning your game into a sci-fi

[01:21:23] that's what i wanted i know i just the joy that you guys are giving me right now just

[01:21:31] going through the character sheets and then i get to see a character that david's falling in love with

[01:21:36] i get to see a character christ is falling in love with and then like i'm already a fan of them you

[01:21:42] know what i mean yeah okay so i'm i'm looking at this game this game like is is uh it's toying

[01:21:49] with my emotions here for skills because like it's like like craft tech or trade okay i'm

[01:21:54] gonna go with craft obviously in deduction or observation i'll probably go with observation

[01:21:58] electronics or mechanics uh okay so how do the skill like how do the skill things work do we have to

[01:22:04] like um like to be i'm not seeing like it looks like you have to choose between one of the one of the

[01:22:11] other i feel like that's the case uh but um erpa derp um oh i'm gonna open up yet another book

[01:22:21] actually on page 144 it says uh something about like uh after humble beginnings milestone step two

[01:22:29] the next step is to select one of the 12 archetypes bear in mind the no two paragons are alike even

[01:22:35] if they share an archetype each paragon archetype provides bonuses and then it gives you oh seven

[01:22:43] trained skills at 25 percent okay so so you choose one of those one of those um you choose basically

[01:22:51] seven skills uh from that select from those skill selections in your archetype and then you add an

[01:22:56] extra plus 25 percent to that uh skill okay and then on top of that you also get a plus two to

[01:23:03] primary to a primary attribute which i think is also uh like they give you options in the archetype

[01:23:10] itself they do uh same choice of choice of expertise peculiarities pen cities and then sundries sorry

[01:23:18] not to kajaf oh no that's good um i was about to say that mine was a choice of resolve or personality

[01:23:28] and i took resolve just because my personality is already at 20 and i feel like taking it all

[01:23:34] the way up to 22 would be just a little bit much i also don't think you are you're not

[01:23:39] allowed to go higher than 20 right no or i think so i think that's a case that we just cap it at 20

[01:23:46] yeah that's the same for me like i um i get a two plus two to my uh technology or reflexes

[01:23:54] and it's like well my my technology is already 20 i might as well just bump up that reflex at the 14

[01:24:00] makes perfect sense also um one of my choices was ride which because of my background is already

[01:24:08] at 45 so i am not taking that ride up from 45 to 70 70 yeah no we're not going to have a ride at 70

[01:24:19] without me dropping any points in it it's just that's too much yeah so i went for i think leisure

[01:24:27] domain instead i think i went for reflexes kind of going for the gunslinger and then um

[01:24:36] okay so we got skills i mean i see all those i'm supposed to tick mark those see um under the

[01:24:43] skills for your thing you choose one or the other for yeah line yeah but i mean i'll be your pick

[01:24:49] athletics or tactics and then yeah and then you add 25 to those um to those skills that you check

[01:24:56] neutrals yeah sorry so like for instance my choices were bluff or convince i went bluff

[01:25:03] deduction or observation um i went observation um leisure domain or logic obviously i went leisure

[01:25:11] domain because i feel like being able to palm the cards is going to be a thing um lock picking

[01:25:18] or ride i've already got a shitload of rides so i went lock picking low profile what's that

[01:25:25] or research resilience or scholar and then scholar or theology so i ended up going resilience for one

[01:25:33] scholar for the other again because i kind of didn't want to put too many points into one thing just

[01:25:40] off of basic skills here now there we are going to get more points later yeah within the character

[01:25:47] creation but i kind of felt like spread it out a little bit yeah that's kind of what i want

[01:25:52] because like um it gave me the option for like electronics at 25 or mechanics and i already have

[01:25:58] 20 points in mechanics already so i could either go 25 in electronics and or 45 in like in mechanics

[01:26:03] and i was like if i'm going to get more points i might as well just like spread it out a little

[01:26:07] bit so i'm well well rounded yeah um now here's the question should i have the i get pilot tech

[01:26:16] or weapon maintenance tech should i go with a pilot one or the weapon maintenance i feel

[01:26:21] pilot the pilot maintenance would allow you to make your spider wagon a little bit better or

[01:26:26] take care of it it'll allow me to try it'll allow me to to um uh control it when i'm traveling

[01:26:35] because uh it's it's piloting rather than uh or it's the other the other option is

[01:26:39] weapon maintenance so i don't know like maybe if i get that like electro uh the the arc gun

[01:26:45] the arc pistol um like yeah maybe like that's the finicky thing i don't know um

[01:26:53] i better take weapons maintenance you fuckers are gonna need somebody to clean your guns

[01:26:58] actually yes we are because i don't have that yet all right so i feel like

[01:27:05] no uh no it's all good i mean i think i actually may end up keeping this stuff in here that we're

[01:27:10] kind of going through goodness um just code of the west it's it's vengeful and then worldly so yeah

[01:27:17] i think you add both of those i do i think so because i've got i've got isolationist or and callous

[01:27:25] okay first code of the west out of here um might want to check back up on the uh the top of part

[01:27:32] of paragon archetypes maybe there's something about it there where is the code of the west

[01:27:38] almost sounds like you're oh i'm a lumberjack and i'm okay no for some reason my head i was going

[01:27:45] it's a leader at the pack or whatever that old song was yeah uh i don't even see this well the

[01:27:53] code of the west i think is under oh the western code it's under it's at the very bottom of it's

[01:27:59] underneath like or it's right next to where you're like your mount name is and okay oh i

[01:28:04] picture my horse yeah okay my horse my horse is amazing i've already made naming mine no name

[01:28:13] because i've been through the desert on a horse with no name nice now you got me wanting to play

[01:28:19] this like i'm gonna have to find somebody to run this game you get your character can be like all

[01:28:23] like one of our mpcs and then i if i if this like i could even run some stuff like i don't mind

[01:28:29] i trying to run some stuff in well i saw no uh popping up on take diff like hey i could run a game

[01:28:34] for you guys like where the hell have you been sir get over yeah and like he loves deadland so i'm

[01:28:40] sure he'd like this yeah all right paragon expertise get in the wagon we're gonna die of

[01:28:47] dysentery i mean also yeah yeah also it's like if you want i can run a game where just like

[01:28:55] where damien needs you guys to wrangle up one of his inventions that's gone rogue

[01:29:00] so you guys have to like track down a a rogue a rogue ai spider putt yeah a rogue spider we

[01:29:07] attracted with a salt lick i just need to know what do we what do we put out for it like if i put

[01:29:16] a box and a stick what do i put under the box oh nothing bolts yeah

[01:29:25] piece of candy piece of candy yeah yeah adam we're really gonna need somebody who's like

[01:29:31] who can like actually like do weapons maintenance of that because i keep like i was like hmm

[01:29:36] do i like do i take uh short arms or tinkering tinkering

[01:29:44] well that just means that you don't use guns very well yeah you could make any skill check

[01:29:50] you want it's just like the book explicitly does say that i did not kill with my gun i kill

[01:29:56] with my robots did you give guns to your robots uh yes that's a loop oh probably yeah probably yeah

[01:30:08] suddenly the spider bot breaks out the steerage or from a that yeah yeah adam it's the it's the l

[01:30:14] core loophole all over again where it's like the l core are these like quadrupedal like

[01:30:18] species alien species but they so they don't they don't fire guns with their with their

[01:30:24] with dexterity in the game they have a vi assisted mounted guns on their backs

[01:30:34] that allow and so they're so you're actually rolling with intelligence as your score

[01:30:39] at this that sounds like a good loop oh yeah

[01:30:42] so i get stoically are you this like this one wants to know are you ready punk

[01:30:54] bloody how are you doing oh joe is amazing in that game that game was amazing in general when

[01:31:02] he's playing like and it's gm too but like it's a deadpan like a straight man like or like like the

[01:31:08] the just like being like the the layman or like the the every man or like the the the deadpan

[01:31:16] like deliveries and like or being like the the like the the guy who's like this is why are we

[01:31:23] doing this this is stupid like or or just reacting in a logical sense versus like everybody else

[01:31:29] who's like playing a character yeah i'm fucking bad parts are real okay yeah i do still love what

[01:31:39] it like the the main villain was like trying to monitor like it's like now fuck this just like

[01:31:43] all you guys just like blast or blasted for those of you tuning in on this conversation we ran

[01:31:51] we did a nice black agent twilight mashup that was checks angels it'll eventually go up

[01:31:58] highly recommend it was it was fun it was super fun and i i do love how he went from

[01:32:05] that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard too coming back and it's like now when he says

[01:32:11] you should probably listen to him yeah like at the very end like the the final minute in that

[01:32:19] where he just kind of comes back like i don't want to see you ever again but you should

[01:32:24] probably listen to that one did he know he'd see him again yeah i feel like there's gonna

[01:32:33] we've got to do checks angels again oh yeah i have i have some ideas for some well i have

[01:32:39] some ideas for another like twilight cathartic twilight games based off of like some of our

[01:32:45] other talkies which you can check out at a al dente rigam artist's patreon

[01:32:51] um the sister podcast of one less die and friend of rpx

[01:33:03] we're just basically an official network at this point yeah basically um so i'm looking at like

[01:33:10] paragon expertise you know the purpose of any human built device you encounter i think we're

[01:33:17] i'm ready to continue with the uh i guess so where's the expertise so well westford expansion

[01:33:26] that yeah we can do the we can do some of this other stuff like uh like some of this other stuff

[01:33:30] on the character sheet like on the archetypes stuff like we can add it we can throw in

[01:33:35] like uh we could do the um west expansion stuff if you want unless that's something else

[01:33:41] i think we're pretty much like we can pick whichever one we want to do i think so like the

[01:33:47] civil war one doesn't fit like we're setting this in the 1890s so westford the gunfighter of the

[01:33:55] old west is 1866 to 1916 that's a good possibility and then i see like the academic in the old west

[01:34:04] is 1866 to 1960 1960 let's just say academic in the old west the academic in the old west yeah

[01:34:12] so everybody's got their own different okay table oh okay that okay that makes sense okay so um which

[01:34:22] which do old west well no we have i think yeah so what i was going to say is there is a

[01:34:28] westward expansion table that we all have there's a civil war years table that we all have

[01:34:35] and then so and then there is another table that goes for me the practitioner in the

[01:34:41] old west is 1866 to 1916 so we've got three different tables that we roll on depending

[01:34:48] on how long we've been out and then i wonder i may not be able to roll for the westward

[01:34:56] expansion because my character's my character was the way i'm setting up like my character was born in

[01:35:01] 1866 so western expansion was done by 1860 this is a good point let's go back i'm gonna go back up to

[01:35:10] the craft and paragon section see if we uh or paragon our types just to see if we miss something

[01:35:16] yeah all right and to be fair i did set my age at 45 because i see the colonel as an old man

[01:35:23] yeah so i was planning on rolling on all three of them because on my sheet i have my birth date listed as

[01:35:32] 1856 so i would have been part of westward expansion just barely for every four years of the

[01:35:40] paragon's life uh requires a role on one of the milestones to discover the key events for them

[01:35:49] some of these roles might lead to a secondary table um regardless of the what year the game

[01:35:56] starts and the character's age they always roll a minimum of once on the old west table if the game

[01:36:03] begins in 1866 or after oh yeah yeah um example if the characters roll if the character rolls in

[01:36:13] 1865 and the game begins in 1867 they would still receive one role on the old west table

[01:36:20] okay so so yeah basically like i guess yeah that's very i fuck it let's go with it yeah i'm i'm fine

[01:36:29] so i i basically got a row roughly nine times it was it just in general i mean i guess david

[01:36:37] gets a lot more freedom for which ones he picks from me you're kind of pigeon-holed oh oh hang on

[01:36:42] no hang on hang on uh i'm looking at this uh sorry i just i just read no uh after three milestones

[01:36:49] 12 years each additional milestone moves the character's main western code uh more to the

[01:36:56] extreme of their paragon archetype as they come to resemble that icon more and more and the world

[01:37:04] responds to them in kind okay so that's probably where you get your reputation in some of that

[01:37:08] with the code and such uh for example a paragon born in 1838 playing in a game set in 1876

[01:37:17] the humble beginnings milestone covered their early life through age to age 15 now they roll

[01:37:25] um a minimum of five so it's at age 15 onward like till the till the start of the game

[01:37:33] so that's what it is so at 15 um so yeah so my character for example is born i have

[01:37:40] born in 1866 plus 15 years uh it's 1881 uh and if this game is being take place in 1890

[01:37:52] i only had to roll twice i don't think i had to roll three times in

[01:37:56] until 1860 yeah so it's not like a crazy amount but okay that's fine all right okay so you said we

[01:38:03] start rolling at 15 so yeah the age of my so my age would have been 1856 so i think my first

[01:38:12] role is civil war yep because that would have been 18 well no 1871 and civil war years are only

[01:38:22] 1861 to 1865 so i would have to roll three times on the practitioner in the old west chart yeah

[01:38:29] yeah because i did just do the math for the the example they gave um because it has five events

[01:38:35] on that uh for this guy and he was born in 1838 then bump him up 15 years

[01:38:42] and the game is going to be set in 1876 so he has a total of five life or five events that

[01:38:49] happen so yeah i'm making sure i'm doing this right and then we just have to remember after

[01:38:57] after three oh and actually i don't even get uh to uh increase my uh primary western code

[01:39:05] uh yet because um i've only got two milestones uh as for my character

[01:39:10] hmm i think i'm math like if i was born in 1860 so it'd be 75 when it counts so 75 be 79

[01:39:20] 83 87 i think i only get to roll three times too because like 1890 it'd be i'd be over

[01:39:28] so i'm gonna get to roll three times that's fine yeah no that's it's interesting like uh

[01:39:34] and so and then we yeah and then depending on what you roll you might end up having to roll

[01:39:37] from the the homesteaders and bad folks thing for i'm guessing for like rivals or the weird

[01:39:44] yeah or the weird which i'm really hoping i get because uh well i'm i got the academics so

[01:39:50] so i started with encounter with the weird actually and my role on that is secret society

[01:39:57] you're not sure what happened but just that it was beyond belief you found yourself fighting

[01:40:02] side by side with some secret society within the west nice uh maybe it was with harry atubman

[01:40:08] battling werewolves or some other group battling sky demons whatever it was it it was definitely

[01:40:15] fight together or die separately and so i'm going to gain plus one worldly plus five to one conflict

[01:40:21] skill plus five scholar occult and then i get to roll a d6 that's a one so i am the savior

[01:40:29] the character saved the group gained the favor peculiarity so i have a favor with a secret society

[01:40:38] because i somehow saved them i wrote debt my first one i wrote wanted dead or alive the steel horse

[01:40:45] you ride you have a bounty on your head people are looking for you wanted posters with your image

[01:40:52] and a price on your head litter the west you have a compelling reason to go back home but

[01:40:56] doing so would cost you your free gain of peculiarity among the willows and that says two points

[01:41:04] i guess you get to pick which point how much points they are

[01:41:09] do my second role is encounter with the weird that die seems to be stuck on four

[01:41:17] so let's see what we got on the second uh weird table oh my god so i didn't get any of the

[01:41:22] crazies to like but i got hired and instinctive on the the gadget here in the uh in the old west

[01:41:33] so um you you've been recognized for your experience and inventiveness and we're we're

[01:41:41] awarded with a good job someone pays you to make the gadgets you love you have a modest income

[01:41:48] um oh but i could either accept it uh like you accepted start the game with a salary of $20 a month

[01:41:58] multiple multiple failures or lack of progress could result in you being fired or sued

[01:42:04] or i could turn it down and get some extra get some uh extra points into

[01:42:10] science and negotiation i think i'm going to i think it would be more sense for my characters like

[01:42:15] maybe i have i found a patron out west uh or like found some kind of um yeah i found some kind of like

[01:42:21] uh some kind of a uh a patron to uh after tesla after i fled into the west

[01:42:29] and then for yeah tan i got into it uh instinctive so uh you have an intuitive

[01:42:36] knack for understanding how things work it took a while but you finally solved a problem that

[01:42:42] had plagued you for years spider legs automated spider legs uh as a yeah yeah i think i got a

[01:42:51] plus one to technology or reflexes damn it damn it my technology is maxed reflexes damn you

[01:43:05] hmm i wrote a 10 on my second one i knew also it's crazy because like my character apparently so

[01:43:14] if all if the if all the previous stuff happened before 15 that means i was

[01:43:19] apprenticing under under nicola tesla by 15 and then that's oh wow and then and then

[01:43:27] then that's when one of my inventions took over took took uh or sold well and i made 50 bucks

[01:43:32] i got a new i had a new sibling was revealed to me that i had to take care of at 15 and then i

[01:43:38] was attacked by the pinkertons that had to flee into the west all at the age of 15

[01:43:44] sorry continue on uh david okay well let's see i got encounter with a weird secret society

[01:43:50] then encounter with the weird battling the weird and then i just got expedition you were

[01:43:56] involved in a research expedition it might have been your knowledge of obscure languages customs

[01:44:01] or archaeological skill or other categories of learning well at this point i have a 40 in

[01:44:09] knowledge occult so i've kind of become a accidental occultist yeah oops occultist

[01:44:18] so i get to add uh plus one worldly or rugged well to be fair this point i am at a worldly of

[01:44:26] four and an apharius of two plus i've got a weird pool so i kind of see where it's like oh yes

[01:44:33] we're gonna ask this guy the man in the purple suit why would we ask him just we're doing

[01:44:39] hinky shit of course we're asking the guy in purple he will know so i've got a question guys

[01:44:46] so my character was hired by somebody in the west like well when i when i fled to the west

[01:44:51] some i got hired to make it make my inventions and stuff i need a name for the god maybe not

[01:44:58] necessarily the guy himself but i need a name for his company or like the this this like this um

[01:45:05] this patron that i've uh that's that's giving me that's giving me 20 a month to make my

[01:45:10] inventions and to like test them out and and uh and stuff so what would be a good a good like

[01:45:18] american like uh magnate sort of kind or like or like maybe not magnate but like some kind of a

[01:45:26] uh like a good american like invention name chris sarah winchester oh my god you're right

[01:45:36] i got hired by sarah winchester oh my god that is amazing good call david yeah thank you okay this is

[01:45:52] so um i get to add um plus one worldly or reggae so i added the worldly so the expedition

[01:45:57] roll a d6 to determine whether we succeeded or failed we succeeded we recovered a valuable

[01:46:03] treasure worth a hundred dollars and i get plus five to the appraisal skill i kind of wanted it to

[01:46:09] not go so good because if it's the expedition failed at a harrowing experience uh basically it's minus

[01:46:16] three fortitude or resilience and plus five percent to one known magic skill um or four to five the

[01:46:23] expedition ended in failure so plus five resilience but i ended up with appraisal instead so yay me

[01:46:31] i i'm good at looking at things and going huh that must be worth money so

[01:46:37] hear me out okay go ahead so in 1885 i was hired by sarah winchester because she really liked my

[01:46:44] inventions and i pitched her well what if my i i'm planning on on shooting things not with a gun

[01:46:52] but with the camera and that's that's where i got the sarah winchester and then in 1889

[01:46:59] i finally broke through the the idea that had been plaguing me for years and i finally invented

[01:47:05] the electro autonomous spider legs i have my own thought of when you said well what about if

[01:47:13] i were able to take pictures with a camera it's like can you pick take pictures of ghosts

[01:47:18] yes because because nicola tesla was doing research on how to see ghosts with certain devices

[01:47:27] that unfortunately the asshole uh the other guy um edison patented before him that's actually

[01:47:36] i think actually what happened in real life is like yeah both of them were we're we're conducting

[01:47:40] research into like being able to contact the other side or like contact energies um that they

[01:47:47] they believed uh ghost left all like left behind and such so oh my god

[01:47:53] all right yes i'm getting a little i'm getting a little manic and mad science

[01:47:59] dude that's totally i feel like i'm the grounded one dive in it's great

[01:48:05] so i wrote dead or alive as i mentioned before him so it was a bounty on my head i got you know

[01:48:11] plus five to a combat skill uh plus five low profile i still haven't added these yet i need to

[01:48:19] anyway and then i wrote uh god i wrote uh hi noon you survived a handful of gunfighter

[01:48:28] duels that moment when the world stops and it's just you and your opponent each subtle twitch

[01:48:32] etc etc so i got a reputation and a jack for duels and then finally i wrote gunslinger

[01:48:39] so your speed and skill is legendary folks come far and wide to see who you shoot or to see

[01:48:47] you shoot or both so yeah i mean i missed out on some other stuff here i don't have a cool

[01:48:54] contacts and stuff like that but i just know it's fine like i everybody needs every every western

[01:49:00] needs a uh a deadly gunslinger well you know what you like what's set up it's her dichotomy

[01:49:06] that we have in all these kind of games anyway like i'll be i'll be the red uh not red fox but

[01:49:13] red from the 70s show i'll be the the normal every man kind of you know character like i did in a

[01:49:20] monster of the week game i just shoot stuff yeah and then you know my best friends are you know

[01:49:27] the southern aristocrat who turned against the south and then it's plagued by ghosts

[01:49:32] like actually i'm not plagued by ghosts as a matter of fact goods uh i will have you know that

[01:49:38] those ghosts will do my bidding if they know what if they know what's good for them nice and then

[01:49:46] my character is building cameras on uh on the side while he's building his electroautonomous

[01:49:53] spiral legs to record film the you know what i you know who i am i'm the main i i'm i'm basically

[01:50:01] the main character from the new haunted mansion uh like the like the the the the the telescope

[01:50:08] scientist um who is who built a lens that could see ghosts in in that new haunted mansion movie

[01:50:17] god damn it but that's what i'm working towards at the very least yeah wow we really did just kind

[01:50:24] of build we just we just basically oops deadlands we did but damn is it's gonna it's gonna be so good

[01:50:32] i need to find the i need to find my section on the the rules again on on how the card magic

[01:50:40] works because i kind of feel like the the secret society that i accidentally stumbled into is i kind

[01:50:50] of want to call them the gamblers and have them be the other members of the pharaoh like other

[01:50:56] people who have the pharaoh cards there was there wasn't there was a secret society in the ecker

[01:51:01] falls stories i think it was called the opossum society and they were uh they were a gambling

[01:51:08] club that would take i think like the the the horror like part of the story was like uh the one guy got

[01:51:15] uh like a new a newcomer came into the into the society kind of on like kind of just oops into it

[01:51:20] and sat down at their table and started like playing cards with them and they all like took

[01:51:24] a sip of this this drink from uh from a from a uh a bartender kind of person and then and it

[01:51:30] was a weird kind of kind of drink but it was okay uh and then as they're playing the game

[01:51:35] one of the people lost and he just kind of started crying and walked away from the table

[01:51:40] and at the end of the game um the the bartender person came back with with another set of drinks

[01:51:47] and the guy was like no no i'm good and he's like no you're gonna want to take this well what is it

[01:51:52] the antidote for the venom you took earlier so they've been playing card the card game

[01:51:58] and the loser doesn't get the antidote wow yes yeah but yeah i think that one was called the

[01:52:06] i do like the idea like the secret society of occult gamblers is really cool so i wrote down all three

[01:52:15] of my gunfighter abilities i think i only get one of those maybe i gotta yeah i gotta i gotta look

[01:52:21] through that again um i think we may have just fucked up and did all three oh i see what you

[01:52:27] yeah each say yeah because there's something here a paragon overview

[01:52:32] oh no no no that makes sense okay so so under traits bonus pick the trait bonus uh that best

[01:52:37] represents you under the skill ones pick one of the skills uh skill pairs under the paragon

[01:52:45] that best suits you well yeah yeah for the for the skills but like it said earlier like um

[01:52:51] each paragon archetype provides bonuses and you get seven trained skills so i think and i think in the

[01:53:02] when you actually go down to the uh the paragon archetypes um like say for example um like one

[01:53:08] two three four five six seven yeah so that you get so you i think it's just it's it's uh it's

[01:53:15] phrased weird like um you get seven uh seven trained skills and you choose one of the two uh one from

[01:53:25] the pair i think is what it means okay uh not one oh yeah that's it's weird and then for you have the

[01:53:32] code of the west these modify the western code by the type of paragon chosen so yeah you get those

[01:53:38] two um okay i still don't really fully understand the code of the west stuff to be honest

[01:53:44] that's fine it'll it'll come up as we play oh and then paragon expertise you select one of the four

[01:53:50] that you get uh and then the propensity's uh well no the expertise uh propensity you get two points

[01:53:58] to spend among the paragon abilities for propensities and then for peculiarities you get two

[01:54:03] points to spend to select whatever fits the character and then sundries the basic starting

[01:54:10] gear for your character uh milestones may impact this so the paragon expertise because like that's

[01:54:16] underneath the um paragon um book or a thing it shows uh underneath the code of the west there's

[01:54:24] a paragon expertise and then there's like the paragon core propensities in the i pick one of those

[01:54:30] expertise okay okay no it's totally fine so it's not as bad as i thought and then the propensity

[01:54:36] that you said it was two uh propensities you yeah two i it looks like it's it looks like it's like

[01:54:43] you get two of those ones and then under the peculiarities that's further down i think and

[01:54:48] you like select two that match your um your character i can see precarious on mine it's

[01:54:56] it's in the uh book i'm looking at the bookmarks it's it's after like it's after the full

[01:55:00] explanation of the skills and such okay well man we may actually have this here as we kind of

[01:55:05] mud through this of course we we've been doing this for three hours so it's kind of yeah it's been

[01:55:12] a bit of a journey a bit of a bit of a journey a fun journey like very exciting so i'm just

[01:55:17] going through because i gotta quickly grab my uh expertise is or choose my expertise so i for

[01:55:24] the gadget here i have um uh you know the purpose of any human built device that you

[01:55:29] encounter you can always find someone hiring for a mechanic or repair position you know the quality

[01:55:36] of any piece of equipment uh a reliable finicky oron slasks legs um you can recognize manufacturing

[01:55:43] marks and other quirks to identify the maker of a piece which i feel like it should maybe be

[01:55:52] i'm kind of torn between the first and the fourth one um like i can i know the purpose of any human

[01:55:59] built device or you encounter or i can recognize the manufacturing mark uh and other quirks to

[01:56:08] identify the mark i don't know like what do you guys think kind of i agree with you i just

[01:56:16] gotta figure out which one to choose i also think maybe like you know the quality of a

[01:56:21] piece of equipment might also be handy because like i can tell like what the condition is of it

[01:56:27] and such yeah i'm gonna go with the probably the um uh i know the quality of any piece of equipment

[01:56:35] i think that one that's why i think that one kind of yeah wow okay nice little side note on ferro

[01:56:43] um so it has here in there it's also easier to cheat in ferro than in poker in fact

[01:56:50] um in the famed hoyle's book of cards or hoyle's book of games began the ferro section

[01:56:57] of some editions by noting that gambler should assume that any casino offering ferro was a crooked

[01:57:04] casino and i'm just thinking quietly to myself the ferro table was also the one that um we talked

[01:57:14] about tombstone earlier right yeah so when kurt russell um basically gets the boys a stake in a

[01:57:21] casino by just whooping billy bob thorton's ass um it's at the ferro table i think oh okay so i'm

[01:57:32] gonna have to go back and watch that movie tonight just because i know such a such a big loss

[01:57:39] i'm also thinking for the expertise for the inventor um so i get eureka you have flashes of

[01:57:46] inspiration in genius there's also there's also john henry you're destined to be a folky story

[01:57:53] um and then there's weird science you comprehend weird technology well i definitely want weird

[01:57:58] technology and i think i want eureka i think i'm gonna have to hold off on i think i'm gonna have

[01:58:04] to like yes yeah i think i have to write my it's like yeah i don't think i think the destiny one

[01:58:09] i think i was going to take a sideline i think i like the the the first and second the first

[01:58:13] and third one more so i'm with you there like i'm still trying to figure out just what the

[01:58:20] secret society is i feel like the gamblers just a bunch of just a bunch of other ferroents that

[01:58:26] are passing cards back and forth and just trying to figure it out i like the idea that

[01:58:32] there is a group of gamblers who are protecting the weird west in their own way it's like a maverick

[01:58:39] society i have i have a word for it but like and it might fit the time period because of like uh how

[01:58:46] Egypt tall i keep i keep getting stuck because you keep saying uh the the the ferro and i keep

[01:58:52] thinking of like Egypt um well yeah it's called ferro in as in p-h-a-r what if what if it a-o

[01:59:02] okay what if the society was called the shaptis you know those those guardian statues that they put

[01:59:06] in the in the ferro's tombs to look to serve and guard uh the ferros i like it and again like

[01:59:15] stumbling in because i got our i grabbed a card by accident and then it's like well

[01:59:22] guess you're gonna need more of those hear me out david yeah maybe you headed up into

[01:59:29] minnesota near the falls near syrah falls yep oh no let's tie it in yes and i will even go so

[01:59:42] far as to say um i will give up one of my eights so that i can have the queen of hearts so two aces

[01:59:51] an eight and a queen just because i feel like the syrah falls that that tie it is basically

[01:59:58] well where did you get the queen of hearts syrah falls because basically i can use the hearts

[02:00:05] to heal yeah like that's the whole thing on them is it restores d4 vitality or lucidity point

[02:00:12] each jack scores an additional point so if somebody is bleeding out i just pull the queen of hearts and

[02:00:19] just don't worry we're playing with the queen of hearts i know it really ain't that smart joker is

[02:00:26] the only fool who do anything for you i was like we are going to eventually i have to run some

[02:00:33] weird west shenanigans up in minnesota in the town of in the strange town of syrah falls where you

[02:00:40] guys end up in a weird like viking era somehow as viking we're going we're kind of going a little ripsy

[02:00:50] oh i was gonna say is i think i only got one picture i only had two points so i can

[02:00:54] buy one peculiarity and i bought a positive one but i also gained a negative one from my

[02:01:00] background so there's a 750 dollar bounty on my head $750 you say

[02:01:08] well that's enough to make mr king should come after you so under my sundries i have

[02:01:14] shop equipment or portable versions it's like it's just adding more on to the fact that i i just

[02:01:19] have this freaking spider spider wagon well yeah like do you want the shop equipment or do you

[02:01:27] want the portable version but you want yeah exactly i'm double checking i think well i just had my

[02:01:35] sundries that's what i was saying don't don't worry about money we're covered oh yeah no like yeah um

[02:01:43] i think i may swap points around from if we're not getting any other points to level up our

[02:01:48] guns and stuff like that i think i really need to focus on my short arm okay i mean i think that

[02:01:53] we are going to get some points because let's see i got to get back to that overview page that was like

[02:02:00] what 120 yeah because i'm pretty sure that we get a few more you have two points just like whatever

[02:02:07] fits your character propensity i need to pick out a propensity i guess another one other than what

[02:02:15] i have okay so i'm sorry adam i keep apologizing no no do your part um under my sundries it's like

[02:02:25] a pistol but that would be unreliable if i if it wasn't modified which counts as one of my gadgets

[02:02:30] and then right below it has two standard quality gadgets the paragon has built will you let me have

[02:02:37] an an arc pistol which is basically just a it's an electrically powered pistol

[02:02:46] and a robotic spider camera named Cameron so here it is your western code the west has its own

[02:02:54] code one that defines duty honor and truth a paracons actions influence the code so we should always

[02:03:03] have um eight pairs of qualities the values of which should always add up to 20 but you can never have

[02:03:11] less than one or more than 19 points in any value i know paragon should wander the land alone so

[02:03:19] it's dangerous bordering on suicidal and no self-respecting folks would do that so

[02:03:24] what incidents forged bonds between you and your companions that nothing can break so we get

[02:03:29] to figure out what binds us together and then here's the other part your knowledge you've learned a

[02:03:37] few tricks that aren't about your path survival or destiny just passions that you have so spend

[02:03:42] a hundred skill points on any skills you want other than computer or electronics and skills

[02:03:48] can't go above the starting maximum of 75 so you can drop extra points in to get closer

[02:03:55] so we've got a hundred points floating around there and then each character has their own language

[02:04:01] and scholar culture slash type at knowledge times five percent additionally they begin with

[02:04:08] 50 language points to assign and 50 scholar culture type points to assign

[02:04:13] we're all right i'm just trying to find where you're at on this uh that is all from page 122

[02:04:20] um okay yeah i didn't go back at par if only it was a book marked as well as oh gods of apalachia

[02:04:28] it really should i really wish it was yeah this feels like a book that's going to have all

[02:04:33] sorts of ribbons and maybe a bacon rind sticking out of it by the time we get done i feel like

[02:04:38] maybe this would be best that we kind of jump back in and i don't know you said a lot of

[02:04:45] good shit chris i'd like to see now you and david work through this so i'll just make it work

[02:04:51] oh i'll kind of cut some stuff here and there if i have to i'm so sorry no i i i i just i just like

[02:05:00] i just like yeah i'm just sorry for like future adam who has to edit some of this stuff

[02:05:05] i've got a week off and i'll get it figured out honestly uh even just doing the roll up i want

[02:05:12] to play this game i want to be part of this group like i don't know what the incident is that brings

[02:05:19] us together but as soon as we figure that out yeah i'm going to be spitballing it for the next

[02:05:25] four or five 20 days i don't care i will find a reason to bind us together i will find a thing

[02:05:32] that makes us come together into the west so that we can play this game i kind of feel like

[02:05:38] at risk of sounding weird how does strangers on a train fit for you guys like we all i chance

[02:05:47] bought tickets to a train ride to take us west and over the course of that train ride

[02:05:56] we become a group of traveling companions i like like and so that's that's my challenge

[02:06:04] um now that we've got the bare bones of the characters let's let's flesh our characters

[02:06:10] out just a little bit further adam can you take that idea of the train ride and turn it into a one

[02:06:18] shot adventure because if you can make the crazy train happen we will take it off the rails

[02:06:25] yeah i mean that the entire ride like the entire idea i had was involving a train

[02:06:32] perfect so that's yeah that's session zero or turn into session one is we're all going to take the

[02:06:39] train yep also adam if you also like if you want to if we do this like afterward like after

[02:06:46] like the the initial game uh and you want to play as your this character your gunslinger character

[02:06:51] i mean honestly i think if you just showed no our characters he he would be interested in

[02:06:56] trying to in running some of these games in running some games

[02:07:01] following a paper yeah as long as we could throw as long as he could throw predators at us he'll be

[02:07:06] fine oh god oh no oh god it's the wild west of predators so folks it seems like we got three

[02:07:16] quarters of the way through with character creation here so we'll definitely have these

[02:07:20] character sheets once we get them finalized out we just like a few more you know dotting

[02:07:24] eyes across some teas but real quick questions what do y'all think of uh haunted west oh i am excited

[02:07:33] very excited this is going to be amazing awesome awesome looking forward to it so we will uh

[02:07:42] i guess uh tune in uh in the future you'll find the accompanying haunted west game that i have now

[02:07:48] committed to in stone to running and i guess until next time thank you for those getting

[02:07:55] this early thank you pay for your subscribers for paying for the early access that really helps us

[02:08:00] out a great deal uh i gotta pay in like 15 days i gotta pay for pot being and i've already got

[02:08:06] the money thanks to you also thank you so much for those of you that are uh tuning in for the

[02:08:12] first time uh thank you you've got this on the main feed if you'd like to get our real

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[02:08:32] where can people find you uh well when i'm not hanging out with the rpx crew i have two podcasts

[02:08:39] my actual play rpg podcast one less die we started with shadow run and we've sort of

[02:08:45] just branched out from there with the multi-year backlog i have of games that i've been recording

[02:08:52] with my meat space gaming group and such so we cover d20 systems powered by the apocalypse

[02:09:00] shadow run and um little smattering of other systems and such so uh i believe adam's also

[02:09:09] adam is adam and david are actually both on uh on some of our more recent stuff with

[02:09:14] our boss and loft games or the uh the mistborn campaign so uh yeah you can you can check us there

[02:09:20] at one less die uh and then when i'm not playing video or when i'm not playing uh tabletop games

[02:09:26] i am reading and reviewing creepypastas with my two co-hosts over at al dente rigamortis

[02:09:35] and uh that's a weekly thing along with one less die uh where we read and review

[02:09:42] those internet stories most creepy and most pasta yeah thank you all so much again for tuning in

[02:09:48] and until next time we'll see you all later bye bye