So begins Session Zero of our war rules playtest campaign of Red Markets. Custom spots, new rules, and bad jokes abound. Which side will we support? Will we work toward retirement or war assets? Set in Hatch/Hutchinson, Kansas in an old salt mine. Listen in as our players set up their surroundings and decide what their salty taker crew will look like.
[00:00:01] Yeah, so if this actually makes it out to the general public, hello, this is our session zero for a Red Markets, I guess, mini campaign, I guess? Or is it more than a one shot at least?
[00:00:12] It's more than a one shot. If everything goes to plan, there'd be like eight or nine sessions total. There's definitely going to be a session cap on the campaign because that's part of the issue at hand for the takers.
[00:00:28] All righty. And okay, with that in mind, go ahead if you want to, Nick, jump into your pitch and what we're kind of working on today.
[00:00:39] Okay, I've been thinking about this for the longest time. I wanted to do a war campaign and have the whole focus of the campaign be preparing the takers if they want to.
[00:00:57] Hopefully you guys want to, to fight in that war scenario at the end of it, as opposed to say like a normal campaign that might just have one of the sessions be, you know, a big conflict that they're just thrust into.
[00:01:15] So I don't want to give away too many specifics.
[00:01:20] But the way I saw it going was that you guys would automatically have a job lined up for the first session.
[00:01:32] You'd still go into negotiations and do that, but you'd already be planning on working for a specific person.
[00:01:41] And then over the course of that job, the two factions that are going to fight would present their case to both of you.
[00:01:51] And then at the end of the first session, both sides would prompt you to fight for their side.
[00:01:57] And you could choose to fight for either side.
[00:02:00] Or if you were really ambitious, you could choose neither side.
[00:02:06] See how that goes.
[00:02:07] You're simple.
[00:02:09] But that would be obviously, I would hope you would choose a side.
[00:02:18] Let's just put it that I'm not, I'm not going to say you can't go on your own, but.
[00:02:23] Screw you and your, and your, and your, and your plot.
[00:02:25] Yeah.
[00:02:27] We're going to start a business in this other enclave.
[00:02:30] Yeah, no.
[00:02:32] My idea would be like, if you were on your own, you'd either be setting up to defend your area from any spillover from the fighting.
[00:02:42] Or you'd be trying to, you know, fight your way out.
[00:02:48] Like, do a full out, like, evacuation.
[00:02:51] Just get a whole bunch of things to, like, punch through and go, like you said, evacuate to another enclave.
[00:02:57] But it's, it's whatever you guys want in the moment.
[00:02:59] I understand if you don't like either faction.
[00:03:03] But, yeah.
[00:03:06] So, depending on what you would do, in addition to normal retirement goals that you could have if you wanted to pursue retirement goals.
[00:03:14] The 20 bounty milestones can be used to develop war assets.
[00:03:20] And I haven't thought of if I want to do anything else besides that.
[00:03:23] But at least initially, you guys can create war assets for the fight at the end of the campaign.
[00:03:30] Any, any questions so far?
[00:03:33] I don't believe so.
[00:03:34] Just to recap, to make sure I'm getting this here too.
[00:03:37] We're kind of shooting, the main go isn't necessarily escaping to the recession.
[00:03:44] As much as kind of just preparing the enclave for what happens possibly.
[00:03:49] Am I, am I giving it correctly?
[00:03:51] Yeah, yeah.
[00:03:52] If you wanted your character to set up so they can escape.
[00:03:57] You could do that and then just not have as much preparation towards the fight.
[00:04:01] But it's, it's, I would provide the opportunity for you to develop defenses or offenses to help ensure that your current life in the enclave isn't screwed over after the whole fighting's done.
[00:04:15] So, I guess my question for the rest of the party is, I mean, it's, we're kind of working with this whole war asset idea anyway.
[00:04:23] Do you all want to be lifers?
[00:04:26] You want to kind of, or at least at this point while we're creating, we're kind of ride or die with the enclave?
[00:04:32] Or does that kind of presenting too much?
[00:04:35] I think there are two good potential kind of motivations we could have here.
[00:04:41] One of them being the lifer, one of them being the, you know, this is my home, this is where I live, all of that.
[00:04:47] And maybe this is not what you meant by lifer, but then there's also just the, you know, mercenary just out there.
[00:04:55] Just all business.
[00:04:56] Yeah, if the pay's good, I'll join that side kind of thing.
[00:05:00] I'm here to get mine.
[00:05:01] Yeah.
[00:05:02] Yeah.
[00:05:03] Or if you really wanted to, you could try and get your milestones done before the fight happens and that flee and then play another character just for the war thing.
[00:05:13] If you really want to.
[00:05:15] Our Joes could be the war.
[00:05:19] Yeah, it could be.
[00:05:20] It's, it's, it's what you want to do.
[00:05:21] I'm leaving it open to interpretation based on like what we can have a further discussion after the first session.
[00:05:28] So you have a better idea of what it is.
[00:05:29] I just don't want to spoil what's to happen for the.
[00:05:32] Oh, that's totally fine.
[00:05:35] It sounds like you're trying to invite Randy into your beautiful home.
[00:05:38] All right.
[00:05:39] So first off, Brownie can't be the madcap.
[00:05:45] But it was so fun.
[00:05:49] It certainly had its moments.
[00:05:51] It's like, no, we got this.
[00:05:52] Like, no, you don't.
[00:05:55] I feel like we need a Mongo.
[00:05:59] That character sheet is here as well.
[00:06:00] Yes.
[00:06:01] Awesome.
[00:06:03] Okay.
[00:06:05] So I guess with the premise presented here, does anybody have any, any other questions about that or thoughts or concerns?
[00:06:13] Yeah.
[00:06:13] I was just, I was thinking like, like my, a lot of my, like a lot of questions I'd have would probably not be present until like we get into the plot.
[00:06:21] Yeah.
[00:06:22] Like, I'm willing to sit down with anybody after the first session if they want more elaboration or direction.
[00:06:30] Yeah.
[00:06:32] Yeah.
[00:06:32] I'm rather reactive when it comes to that kind of stuff.
[00:06:34] So it's like, like, depending on like what's going to happen, like, like depending on what, how, how we get a feel for like the, the factions is going to dictate how my character is going to react to the, uh, the options.
[00:06:46] Uh, so.
[00:06:48] And, and in, in the, in addition to the, I hope you guys choose a side, I hope your characters are open-minded enough not to straight up, like attack certain factions.
[00:07:02] So at least you could hear their pitch if that's okay with everybody.
[00:07:06] Yeah.
[00:07:08] The question I have.
[00:07:09] Sorry.
[00:07:10] Reverse.
[00:07:11] Go ahead.
[00:07:11] I was just saying, I mean, if it's rain, I was just going to do a joke.
[00:07:13] It's like, I meant if it's Randians.
[00:07:16] That's just going to cost us to listen to their pitch, but sorry.
[00:07:21] Yeah.
[00:07:22] So the question I have is more around locale and, um, terrain of the area, because that also will help kind of define what we may or may not need.
[00:07:30] Um, things will be very different if we're doing, you know, Mad Max car combat in a desert versus, you know, Alpine freezing to death with monsters all around kind of combat up in the mountains versus versus.
[00:07:43] So I would love to know kind of what region we're in before I mark anything down.
[00:07:47] So I was actually about to do that.
[00:07:49] I'm going to post a picture in the elevation chat since we use that for, uh, for red markets.
[00:07:55] Uh, so the one enclave I was definitely thinking of doing was the Hutchinson salt mine in Hutchinson, Kansas.
[00:08:04] Uh, it is one of the largest underground salt mines.
[00:08:08] It has tunnels go.
[00:08:09] I wrote down stats for this somewhere.
[00:08:12] It is 650 feet below the surface with 67,000 miles worth of mined caverns.
[00:08:19] Now necessarily it's not going to be a completely underground enclave up at the top.
[00:08:23] We have a correctional facility, which you see on the map.
[00:08:26] There is a renewable energy area too, that builds wind turbines and stuff like that.
[00:08:32] So I was thinking that with general fencing and stuff like that, they've walled off like the, uh, a certain large portion of the area.
[00:08:42] So people can live top side.
[00:08:45] Miners can mine the salt from the salt mine.
[00:08:49] Salt being good for, you know, curing food and just other cooking uses would be a good, would be like the main resource of the enclave.
[00:08:58] There's also an excellent tie-in for archivists because it's used as a film archive.
[00:09:02] I was about to say that.
[00:09:04] Yes, there's a portion of the salt mine that is actually used to preserve film and other materials.
[00:09:09] So there would be a, uh, archivist presence in the enclave.
[00:09:14] And a Batman suit.
[00:09:15] Hello.
[00:09:18] Okay.
[00:09:19] Even, even though we haven't got there yet, I recommend, um, salt of the earth to figure into either the name of the campaign or the name of the taker crew.
[00:09:28] I haven't thought of a, uh, name per se, um, for the campaign, but, uh, you probably would want to do the taker crew of some sort.
[00:09:38] All right.
[00:09:38] Dibs on a taker name, Morton.
[00:09:41] Uh, you know, Chris, if you're going to be a transporter, you can be road salt.
[00:09:48] Yeah.
[00:09:52] Maybe salty dogs.
[00:09:54] Give me another name.
[00:09:55] Oh, that's good.
[00:09:56] Yeah.
[00:09:57] And, you know, Ethan, since you're playing like the heartthrob love interest of somebody in the enclave, you can be a salt rock.
[00:10:05] Now, I don't know.
[00:10:05] I lost it.
[00:10:06] I was trying to, but I was trying, but, uh, I couldn't make a good salty joke.
[00:10:11] All right.
[00:10:12] Let's see.
[00:10:12] Um, so I was definitely thinking of using this as if not the base enclave that you guys would be out of, uh, definitely a big enclave in the area.
[00:10:24] But I was going to say that I would think you guys were based out of this enclave.
[00:10:28] I do like how this, like this, this place is just perfectly like cordoned off.
[00:10:33] We have a, like a prison.
[00:10:34] Yeah.
[00:10:35] A, uh, an energy, a renewable energy center and a salt mine.
[00:10:38] And then train tracks immediately.
[00:10:40] And train.
[00:10:40] Yeah.
[00:10:41] Train track.
[00:10:41] What is, what is that?
[00:10:42] That other core, that final corner?
[00:10:44] What is that?
[00:10:44] Is that water?
[00:10:45] Yeah.
[00:10:46] That's water.
[00:10:47] Okay.
[00:10:47] Yeah.
[00:10:47] So this is like basically the ideal location.
[00:10:50] The APAC, I believe is a fertilizer production aggregate supplier.
[00:10:54] So.
[00:10:54] Oh my God.
[00:10:55] Yeah.
[00:10:55] This is, this is ideal.
[00:10:57] Yeah.
[00:10:57] Just like cordon off this entire like area and you have an enclave.
[00:11:01] Yeah.
[00:11:01] I was, I was thinking like, you know, the archivists would mostly stay underground.
[00:11:05] Uh, and even better, um, the salt mine itself, usually underground, you have to worry about air quality and stuff like that.
[00:11:12] They have very good air quality down there.
[00:11:14] They've converted their vehicles down in the mine into complete ethanol usage with no outlet gas that's poisonous.
[00:11:22] Um, they, they, like the, the masks that the government requires them to carry on them for breathing.
[00:11:32] They've never had to use it their entire time in the mine.
[00:11:36] Like, it seems like it's a very safe place.
[00:11:39] I don't know how many people get stuffed down there safely, but it's, I feel like everyone's going to be able to do it.
[00:11:44] Everyone would be evacuated under the earth in the most extreme circumstances.
[00:11:48] So what about the, uh, perimeter?
[00:11:51] So like, like Chris has kind of pulled up in at the, uh, chat log here.
[00:11:55] We need, uh, what is our enclave set up like perimeter wise to establish itself, uh, protection and so forth?
[00:12:04] Um, I believe I did a little reconnaissance just through the street view.
[00:12:10] Um, parts of this do have natural fencing, especially this part with the correctional facility.
[00:12:16] Mm-hmm.
[00:12:17] So I was thinking they can incorporate that.
[00:12:20] Train yard, uh, derelict, uh, derelict train cars could be toppled in or just, you know, stuff stuffed under them to create more, uh, fortifications on like an outer track or something.
[00:12:30] Yeah.
[00:12:32] Yeah.
[00:12:32] Hmm.
[00:12:32] Okay.
[00:12:34] Sounds good.
[00:12:35] Plus like directly to the south, there's like nothing.
[00:12:38] Most of the city is to the northwest and even then it's still like a little bit of space between them.
[00:12:47] Sounds good.
[00:12:48] It seems like they could, they could have even went out.
[00:12:50] Is that like, is that just a regular highway or is that like?
[00:12:54] It's a state road.
[00:12:55] Okay.
[00:12:56] State road.
[00:12:57] Uh, state road to the south.
[00:12:59] Uh, I, I was gonna say I-50, but that's not it.
[00:13:02] Highway six and 50 is the state road to the south.
[00:13:05] Okay.
[00:13:06] Uh, there is another state road that goes directly through the city to the west, north to south.
[00:13:11] So there's like an intersection a little bit of ways to the bottom left of two state roads.
[00:13:17] I love that one of them is South Yoder Road.
[00:13:20] Chris mentions here, uh, you need to worry about roofing issues, uh, mine debt areas, go for hose people falling into.
[00:13:28] Could we even say some of the perimeter may be just mining tunnels that we've collapsed and-
[00:13:34] Oh, the, the mining tunnels are actually, um, deep under the earth, like I-
[00:13:42] I mean, I'm all in favor of this.
[00:13:43] This looks really neat.
[00:13:45] Uh, hmm.
[00:13:46] Um, so I guess we're actually jumping into Enclave generation of sorts then, I guess you could say?
[00:13:53] Or, like, what else?
[00:13:55] You know how on, uh, archivists want to preserve technology for what's to come?
[00:14:01] Like, preserve as much of the earth as possible for post-blight?
[00:14:05] I was thinking of spacers as-
[00:14:09] As possible it is, but in having people on Mars and establish stuff there.
[00:14:14] So these are crazy enough to think like, oh, we could-
[00:14:20] Definitely just evacuated us or more of recovering lost knowledge and sending it to, like,
[00:14:28] Aerotech companies in Florida or whatever.
[00:14:30] Um, there's an airport here in town.
[00:14:35] Yeah, that's, uh, there is McConnell Airport.
[00:14:41] There's the McConnell Airport of Aerospace Man, as well as two airports, three airports, all around the town.
[00:14:49] Anyway, for cooling, we'd have a kind of a tech base.
[00:14:53] Like, at least a part of it is, uh, they're using O-Tunnels and stuff like that to run servers?
[00:14:59] Or is that a bit out of the scope?
[00:15:01] No, that's fine.
[00:15:02] We could, uh, we could say, like, the archivist presence is doing that to store technology.
[00:15:08] And then they could also sell space to people to make money.
[00:15:14] Are you going to send us out to retrieve the O-G-O-Cities webpage?
[00:15:18] It was all those sites that were archived?
[00:15:23] Uh, I mean, future generations need that.
[00:15:28] Also, I'm looking at, like, Hutchinson, like, I'm-
[00:15:30] Oh, Cosmosphere.
[00:15:31] Um, yeah, just, like, looking at, like, the fact, like, I'm glad I looked at Google Maps,
[00:15:38] because, like, how close we were to a large city center.
[00:15:41] Yeah, yeah.
[00:15:43] It's- it's not- there's a lot- a lot of large open fields that I feel like they could have watchtowers
[00:15:51] and shoot at casualties coming, but they definitely would have, like, evacuated down into the mine
[00:15:56] in the initial parts of the- the crash.
[00:15:59] Yeah.
[00:16:00] Hmm, okay.
[00:16:01] There's a paper mill right next to us?
[00:16:04] There's a lot of stuff right next to us.
[00:16:06] Jesus.
[00:16:06] What's this?
[00:16:07] There's a grain tower, fertilizer production plant, paper mill, a boiler manufacturer.
[00:16:14] Like, wow, yeah, there's a lot of, uh, just good manufacturing, like, plants and stuff.
[00:16:20] Like, I'm sure all that got stripped in the first five years.
[00:16:23] Yeah.
[00:16:25] Hey, uh, Ethan, are you also thinking about using fertilizer to make bombs, or is that just me?
[00:16:30] I don't know.
[00:16:31] So far, but I mean-
[00:16:33] It has potential?
[00:16:36] I mean, I'm open to ideas.
[00:16:40] So since you've given us this location and we have the internet, we should probably kind
[00:16:45] of set up a baseline for how much you want this to turn into Masada's readout.
[00:16:49] Yeah.
[00:16:50] Googling for fun?
[00:16:51] like do we want to establish this is what we have um and then ask you about the surrounding areas or
[00:16:59] do you want people to google things and suggest things in game nick uh what do you mean could you
[00:17:05] say that again um there's a not really a problem there's a feature of the masada's readout campaign
[00:17:11] that tech dip is running right now uh where they are in an area and someone will just go
[00:17:15] huh i wonder what cool stuff is around here and they look at google maps they go oh
[00:17:20] there's this place that supplies pipes and we need pipes so let's go here i didn't know how much of
[00:17:24] that you wanted or if you wanted to curtail that a little bit like how yeah i was not not too much
[00:17:29] like tie into the real world google it see what's there it if it's i was thinking like just general
[00:17:36] things like if we need this oh there's there'll be a like i'm trying to make it all general and
[00:17:43] everything i don't want it tied too much into every single little possible detail that you can find on
[00:17:49] google maps gotcha i was mostly just using it for just enclave generation what places would look good
[00:17:58] yep and i just wanted to establish your uh your aim there that's good we we did start doing that
[00:18:04] almost right off the get-go so okay sounds good so we have a lot of kind of interesting texture to
[00:18:13] the area around us um and we have four players who are playing uh did it sound was it right that
[00:18:19] one of you wanted to be a transporter i saw some talk about a vehicle yeah i was i was looking because
[00:18:25] we're uh asked to take a look at the uh the um uh play tests the tough spots and stuff so i and the
[00:18:31] and the transporter kind of uh came to mind for me uh to like give it a shot anyway okay uh what other
[00:18:39] kind of uh flavor do you have since you're the only one that's you know has a nugget that's been
[00:18:44] shared so far um well i just um like for my i'm thinking of using i'm going to go with the um
[00:18:52] the ambulance uh like the suv truck uh model in the uh in the book and so i guess my character would
[00:19:00] probably be like a like a ex-paramedic or even like a or like a ambulance truck or ambulance driver
[00:19:07] which i guess what is that uh is that actually like a is that actually uh a thing or you could
[00:19:14] do profession paramedic and that would cover driving and medical stuff that would be a good
[00:19:19] you know thing that we would need yeah that's what i was thinking honestly with my character was
[00:19:23] kind of like i'd have like the the uh the old gutted out uh ambulance truck and then i was also
[00:19:29] like formerly a paramedic before the crash so so crazons are cleric okay
[00:19:38] so you didn't actually go when they called to send more paramedics is that what you're saying
[00:19:42] yep nope it's like fuck that i've seen that movie or you got called to the salt mine and saw people
[00:19:50] evacuate and you're like i'm gonna join you yeah there's someone in trouble down there yeah exactly
[00:19:57] i think the thing we need to get off the table right now too is do you know typically in every
[00:20:03] game we need a negotiator like we need to kind of pick out that one or we need to discuss the fact
[00:20:08] that maybe we just go with an in-between the entire time like what do you what do you all think did
[00:20:14] anyone what's your all's opinion i don't mind playing whatever's like asked of me i don't mind one bit
[00:20:19] but you know just let me know i kind of had a concept in mind that i could see negotiator working well for
[00:20:27] okay cool cool um what would the concept be uh so like the like core character concept i i recently
[00:20:41] watched the kingsman movies um so maybe a little blatantly like tipping off i really liked um
[00:20:53] isn't it colin furth's character yeah and that like i don't know some combination of like
[00:21:00] high charisma and like pretty good with weapons yeah that's that didn't sound bad at all i like that
[00:21:06] of course whenever anybody mentions colin furth i always think of uh pride and prejudice so as soon
[00:21:13] as you said colin furth i started thinking mr darcy so it was damn english degree but now that works
[00:21:20] out great um so we got a driver we got a uh face uh a driver medic a face that can defend themselves
[00:21:32] for once yeah i don't need nobody um i mean offhand i mean i i definitely would be tickled to play any
[00:21:42] of these tough spots that we haven't tried i'm open to suggestions there uh we don't
[00:21:49] uh yeah i'm just rattling until i come up with something yeah which ones haven't been used yet
[00:21:54] all right um let me bring them up again so we did crash hero that was chris's character yeah
[00:22:02] pillar of the community and moonlighter i think we said right yeah right technically no one's done
[00:22:07] exiled but that's kind of easy yeah yeah uh we did runner that's what i was in um you know elevation
[00:22:18] now moonlighter i mean i think it may bear since it's a longer form game moonlighter may bear in mind
[00:22:25] in this game definitely if we're trying to make up money to uh support the enclave or prepare the
[00:22:31] enclave if need be kind of deal like that you guys haven't played specialist but i've run a campaign
[00:22:37] with specialist so you could do that if you want if you want to see what that's like okay i have played
[00:22:42] specialist uh that was mongo oh yeah yeah right yeah and let me tell you it was a lot of fun
[00:22:54] if we ever do have uh the break glass in case of emergency appearance of randy randy is an exiled
[00:23:03] okay but i don't think that's a good necessarily primary character because i don't really want to be
[00:23:08] that unpleasant to people for eight sessions yeah that would suck um i mean we can make it fun but
[00:23:16] a lot of energy to be that negative and basically if i'm not mistaken nick the pretty much the
[00:23:27] moonlighter is just i get extra bounty on a job yeah you would just get like two extra bounty
[00:23:35] each job which pays your your survival and rent but you still have to pay for dependence and upkeep
[00:23:41] yeah okay so yeah i'll do specials then that sounds fine and and then i'll take crash hero
[00:23:52] okay all right so we've got that leveled out here ethan do you know what tough spot you would be uh
[00:24:00] interested in playing for your shoot them up character i have leaned a little bit towards a
[00:24:06] couple of them okay because brownie said he was gonna do crash hero and adam said um specialist i
[00:24:15] kind of thought about part of me likes the idea of latent or immune okay
[00:24:26] kind of latent kind of appeals to me in a way like i i like the idea of a character who's like
[00:24:36] charismatic and like well-spoken and stuff but then also has that weird like also my vein my veins
[00:24:44] are black and if you know if i die oh my god he's so articulate like sorry hey i like you but i'm kind
[00:24:53] of scared at the same time yeah yeah no i something about that uh kind of appeals to me
[00:25:03] it has absolutely no skill in hand to hand he's just
[00:25:08] go for it man that sounds great uh that's kind of the way i i was leaning
[00:25:17] okay at or fenceman fenceman yeah you do get that would give you the extra plus one now you are going
[00:25:24] to be starting a little broken yeah so i mean which is you know totally fine just uh
[00:25:33] yeah longer form it's going to become an issue which yeah fedspin i was thinking um good chunk of
[00:25:42] them are guards from the correctional facility i was also thinking that latent's would uh sleep at
[00:25:48] the correctional facility in case they go uh they die in their sleep yeah that's gonna help morale
[00:25:57] that sounds cool and also latent's probably wouldn't be allowed into the mine unless it was for
[00:26:03] you know emergency evacuation oh god yeah yeah holy shit this is like yeah no you're not going down
[00:26:13] there if you go down there and you die we're just we're just closing up the doors just no one goes in
[00:26:25] and there's my weak spot not funny oh oh god inappropriate and or and or puns at inopportune
[00:26:34] times that cause problems is that acceptable sure yeah socially awkward
[00:26:42] totally punny oh god dad jokes
[00:26:49] weak spot dad jokes yeah i like it okay that was that was christmas time okay okay so i yeah i was
[00:26:59] getting ready to swear are there any um aberrance companies in the setting cultists that you guys would
[00:27:12] prefer not to see or not like oh i'm all about the aberrance so i mean the raccoon leg oh come on i've
[00:27:21] never got to experience it just just make it the possum leg and call it good
[00:27:28] or we're in kansas call it the gopher leg i i'm probably not gonna do the uh faction where it's uh
[00:27:36] the cops oh yeah the finest yeah i'm probably not gonna have that another one that might be a little
[00:27:45] uh touchy for people is triage would people do people care about triage i can't remember what
[00:27:52] they were they're the the latent racists oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean i i don't care but i'm sure
[00:28:01] like yeah like that i just wanted to see if there was any flat nose i'm up for pretty much anything
[00:28:09] but i also will not argue to keep anything that makes anyone else uncomfortable yeah but the same
[00:28:14] well you all know me which i don't think that we're gonna go out and murder a mindful children
[00:28:20] so i'm totally fine but scratch i've only laughed at the job i'm only laughing because of how like
[00:28:26] horrible that sounds yeah i guess we do have one um one faction of cultists that uh it'd be good to
[00:28:36] avoid since adam is here uh they're called the amish oh god yeah there's like there's a mennonite
[00:28:43] which are the same thing sandwich shop and it's amazing and i hate myself every time i walk in there
[00:28:48] i see those pious bastards making us you okay you know you know you've you've talked a couple of
[00:28:55] times about like moving up to ontario you you may have a problem uh adam we have a lot of we have a
[00:29:00] lot of mennonites just saying at least in my in my neck of the woods there's at least like three or
[00:29:07] four on my way down to um to like the southern part of ontario do they drive at least yeah with
[00:29:13] carriages no with like carriage and horse okay well my my and this is the only thing i'm gonna say
[00:29:21] like i just like am always irritated that i'm driving to my mom and dad's house and i and it just looks
[00:29:26] like i'm traveling the county road made of horse shit it's just like you know you take a car right
[00:29:32] it's just shit all over the road yeah so just to help you in your uh your search for a new
[00:29:38] homeland there adam um oregon mennonites have pickups okay just keep that in the back of your head
[00:29:47] does oregon the places legalize in psychedelics i don't know just asking for a friend um i think that
[00:29:56] might be washington oh okay which is right next door yeah yeah i don't want to go tripping balls
[00:30:04] out in bigfoot country let me tell you oh god yeah the lost coast
[00:30:10] oh god anyway yeah back to uh back to the loss so yep yep are there any other enclaves that uh could go
[00:30:20] up in the air i mean we could just say elevation if we want to keep something that we're all familiar
[00:30:25] with in the area like just another nearby uh enclave is elevation i mean yeah they could definitely be
[00:30:32] one of our neighbors since they have a we have a rail system or like a train system uh i think it
[00:30:38] would be kind of cool to have native americans you know possibly are they in that area of kansas i
[00:30:44] mean i don't know if like rivers are strong is there reserves or reservations reservations yeah
[00:30:53] oh wow that's far away oh so not particularly close i'm seeing yeah kickapoo uh uh reservation but
[00:31:03] that's in like the north like northeast and like right near it's closer to kansas city if anything
[00:31:09] oh i've driven through that yeah just thinking of piccadestiny now that long long time ago in a town
[00:31:16] kickapoo yeah yeah yep uh one thing that we could do is uh like a detoxing enclave if people want
[00:31:26] you know there's a lot of farms in the area okay i gotta turn i gotta i gotta turn off google maps
[00:31:32] because i just saw oh america why is there a town called america city no yeah i gotta start i gotta
[00:31:37] turn that take it off sorry they're flying their trek flags and half mass today now come on
[00:31:43] i'm dating this uh yeah the um detox there were the uh the the homeopathic folks or are they just the
[00:31:53] the the the guys who are against like msg and stuff like that or it depends on how extreme you want to
[00:32:00] make them but they're basically like the blight was created due to genetic engineering of food and crops
[00:32:06] that kind of thing so you got to go back to basics are they also anti-vaxxer well it like i said it
[00:32:16] depends on it depends on how far you want to take it we're dealing with it we're dealing with a taker
[00:32:21] crew from there called the karens the karens they call themselves the carrions but everyone just
[00:32:28] calls them karens yeah yes uh yeah uh neo-primatives were a movement for the crash
[00:32:35] um there's a colton elevation but i really don't consider it more of a business there's the greasers
[00:32:47] elevation there i did not know that there was a i guess a yeah holy communion i feel like no one ever
[00:32:56] does anything with yeah and is would that be i mean i'm a cummerbund if you will i'm i'm in favor of
[00:33:03] them if you want to put them in there a few groups practice full-blown cannibalism i've got to stop
[00:33:09] looking at the map too crazy yeah i zoomed out and there's a place immediately to the left of
[00:33:14] hotchison called adam's corner oh you're right i'm looking straight at it right next to yagi
[00:33:21] uh black math is always fun yeah i mean they are the party cult yeah oh well don't don't say yeah
[00:33:30] or nay nick but my theory was black math was what we were gonna have to end up fighting
[00:33:35] that was my i am neither confirming nor denying oh we yeah it's it's between like the the black math
[00:33:42] and uh it's that it's that one leg but it's like turn it it's just full it's you just expanded
[00:33:47] even farther so it's like black math versus the uh shepherds or the shepherds yeah yeah yeah that's
[00:33:54] what i thought of when when you said don't just kill any one faction offhand oh no i'm not gonna have
[00:33:59] you side with the meek thank god okay i will take back please don't kill anyone other than the meek
[00:34:09] yeah i mean i'm there's none of these really off the table in my opinion yeah i'm not yeah
[00:34:15] ethan what do you think man what do i think about what sorry uh the cults that i mean the other
[00:34:21] that we're kind of trying to figure out the environment so to speak i mean yeah it kind of
[00:34:28] and this last enclave doesn't necessarily have to be a cult
[00:34:32] run uh enclave it was just a suggestion that we could have a detox since there's a lot of farming
[00:34:39] in kansas so i like the idea of the uh native american uh enclave and i know they're far away but
[00:34:49] what if there was an airstrip on the reservation and they were kind of like the um calling in takeout
[00:34:57] like you know calling them in because they're they're super mobile and they can either they can
[00:35:02] do a lot for you do you want it to be like uh instead of an airstrip like a mobile enclave like
[00:35:08] they have a whole fleet of just vehicles that go around or would you not think of that because
[00:35:14] i don't think the dhqs would like a lot of planes flying around the lot yeah i had an idea just now
[00:35:24] um i was a little in and out of that conversation while i was trying to assign uh potential points but
[00:35:31] um so with the whole like salt mine thing i could totally see there being some cult like almost like
[00:35:40] apocalypse cult of like salting the earth and or the salt of the earth it's like double yeah
[00:35:49] double meaning there of like of like this world is doomed we must salt the earth
[00:35:56] that almost sounds like a holy commune or communion uh cult i was just to say that sounds like a
[00:36:01] black bath almost oh yeah yeah that one as well you got a little comedian in my black bath
[00:36:07] black at the black communion oh jesus there you go oh god the cure is the cure is immune blood we
[00:36:14] must spray it across the land mix it some good old salt and other uh weed killers and uh electrolytes
[00:36:21] because it's what a body craves oh my god so i like the idea of us being the salty dogs and we can let
[00:36:31] the let the salt of the slash salt the earth be somebody we run into yeah i feel i feel like that'd be
[00:36:37] more of a group than an entire enclave because i don't think an enclave would last long if they're
[00:36:43] literally destroying the earth that they gather resources from yeah unless unless they could like
[00:36:50] if they were like a group within our enclave trying to push people to be like come on let's use the
[00:36:55] salt to kill everything i like the combo the idea from something someone said earlier of the mobile
[00:37:00] enclave salt the earth is a mobile enclave they go they strip an area of resources they burn it to the
[00:37:08] ground they move on they're the locust they're just like a locust band unfortunately this is where the
[00:37:15] audio abruptly ended on our session zero we were recording this during the pandemic and we have
[00:37:21] had a gap between that and editing and there will be a few bumps here and there but i don't think it
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