ADR - (SPECIAL): News Years 2024 - 1999 (The Original Version)

[00:00:00] So guys it's New Year's, New Year 2024, New Creepy Pastas, New Jeffy Wary, all that stuff.

[00:00:07] Yeah I know. But uh hey, uh tonight let's party like it's 1999! original version by Camden Lamont. So yeah, we're touching on this one because this story, this Creepypasta 1999 was the first creep pasta I was ever introduced to. And it basically set me

[00:01:40] on this path of like reading Creepypastas and start reviewing them on a show with my friends at a podcast. Not recommended. I'm going to conditionally recommended bordering on partial

[00:03:00] recommendation. Yeah, I did what I know evil, see no evil, hear no evil. Well, let's dive in and find out why we gave those recommendations, and what are our thoughts on this little creepy pasta from Ontario?

[00:04:21] Starting with the rundown, not featuring the rock because we know Elliot's name. there's like certain red flags about the situation with those with this kid with these kids shows. But at the time he really liked it, mostly because he didn't really understand the context and stuff. And it was enough to even send a letter to Mr. Bear when there was a segment on the show where viewers could send letters to a certain address. It was. Turns out, the man playing Mr. Bear had created this set of fake kid shows and broadcasted on a local channel to lure unsuspecting children to his house so that he could trap them, play

[00:07:00] with them, and then later kill them by burning them in a pit in the woods nearby.

[00:07:06] Not killing sacrificing them. and this all brought Elliot to recount this on his blog, and then start investigating it further over a decade later, as his dad's friend, a retired cop, could show him more of the tapes the police have, and he'll update when he can. Spoilers, we never hear from him again and the blog after that. There was also a hack to his blog where someone added an entry that was a morbid poem to Elliot from Mr.

[00:09:42] Bear, and it might have been Mr. Bear or just another pranking asshole.

[00:10:46] episode 23. This episode was entertaining for my friend and me, mainly because it had swearing. Um, it's supposed to be for my friend and I.

[00:10:54] Yeah, I'm gonna be that asshole. He's a 15 year old kid.

[00:10:59] I understand. No, it's a bit.

[00:12:04] is an update October 7th, 2010. But in all my seriousness,

[00:12:06] I really have been busy these past few months

[00:12:09] and a blog about something that could have killed me

[00:12:12] as a kid is a little low on my current priorities list.

[00:12:16] So for me, I feel like it should be,

[00:12:19] but in all seriousness, not in all my seriousness,

[00:12:22] because isn't that how the term goes,

[00:12:25] or the term of phrases, is, we met this moving on. Yeah, fair. I had time. I don't know. Yeah. I was just like, I want to read this. Fuck it. Fair. Yeah. And then we're going to move on to the to the speaking. Actually, this is a good segue from what you just said, because regarding the email from Mr. Bear, there's perfect amount of room for bad grammar and spelling in this. And in that section, I assume the bracket of the stuff are parts that you put in to explain what he's talking about. I think so, yeah. Because I doubt Mr. Bear would have put the brackets in that to give clarification.

[00:15:01] Yeah.

[00:15:02] That would be pretty funny.

[00:15:04] It's like, but yeah, that wrote a letter using my best writing possible. I think I just said how I where those bodies were found, right? And where is the storm drain? But now you're probably wondering until only recently that I am now interested in my case again. So the scenario of a Pito renting a channel on basic TV is not far fetch at all. So if this happened in the US, the Pito would be tracked and arrested immediately.

[00:19:04] But then I shrugged it off, so he did too. sacrifice because that's what friends do, Elliot. But now is the time to come clean to everyone. Where have I been for an entire year? It was like a dream. Then.

[00:21:22] Track that let mr. Bear get it

[00:21:29] Let him send it back and then we see where it goes and then we intercept the kid on the way over and tell him like It's basically like a or like basically to set them up. So

[00:21:33] The cops are there when they see that he's doing bad shit so they can get him. Yeah, it's a sting operation. Yeah

[00:21:40] Yeah, no, that's what they should have fucking done right up the bat like right like a pop

[00:22:42] like the sentences as Mikey was writing it this time. And I was like having to like scroll down much faster

[00:22:45] near the end.

[00:22:46] So there weren't as many conjunctions as there could have been.

[00:22:50] Yeah, of course.

[00:22:51] But yeah.

[00:22:53] But yeah, game are in yellow.

[00:22:54] What do we got for the grammar in yellow?

[00:22:57] No, yeah, I have to do things.

[00:22:58] Okay.

[00:22:59] I'm just relaxing drinking the coffee.

[00:23:00] It's like, oh shit.

[00:23:02] You mean, that's an Irish coffee, right?

[00:23:05] Because it's like it's New Year's.

[00:23:07] Yes. was it was it was the update even the same as like a well yeah like it the events happened in 1999 and yeah the spur that I'm, do you say via via potato? Yeah potato potato I think, honestly. Potato my dad's friend is a then at the end, it's like, Oh, like, I've already talked to him, but like, I'll next time I see him, because I'm gonna be seeing him later, I'll ask him about this as well. Yeah. Yeah. We don't even get his name into a way after this too. Yeah. Yeah. But moving on. Oh, speaking of my dad's friend didn't know what to do exact

[00:27:00] details, but I'm seeing him next Thursday anyway. So maybe I

[00:27:04] can extort more information from anyway. So I'm gonna start with the, so this is from the intro entry, the quote I'm pulling.

[00:28:21] Pokemon cards, game stickers,

[00:28:23] and the most popular, the TV show.

[00:28:26] So of course, every time I was just like, yeah, this is just the start of my like, me, like realizing just how I really connected to the story from the start of the game or right

[00:29:41] off right at the gate with stuff like that. So and it continues on with the next thing here.

[00:30:47] Honestly, this already has really pulled me in because this was my experience growing up in the 90s. Being a Pokemon fan, watching YTV, which had Pokemon on it.

[00:30:53] And YTV, for anybody who's not from Canada, YTV stands for Youth TV, Youth Television,

[00:31:01] and was an Ontario-based kids programming channel.

[00:31:06] And was fucking awesome in the 90s. Yes. Yeah. So like again, like all of this is it really, it was really easy for me to see why this story connected with me when I first was introduced to it, reading it as a creepypasta. And then later on even goes that like where Elliot lives, the city near Caledon Brampton.

[00:32:21] And that was my neck of the woods as a kid.

[00:32:24] Like I didn't live in Brampton specifically, but I was like living adjacently to Bram channels. And I was like, Oh, Zagida, Mr. I have channels. Yeah, yeah, yeah, girl, yeah, my cottage, we had like, it was like, you might get to like global and maybe like, there's like another channel like within like the first. And VR always came in. Yeah, yeah, they came in really strong.

[00:33:41] You might get a third one, I think like in the 20 in actually, actually

[00:33:44] around the the channel 20s area. But network. It was like a little like UFO that was over our cottage. And we had a little like corded remote that we'd have to like turn and it would turn the UFO, the saucer, like slightly to get a strong enough signal from across the lake to like where like

[00:35:03] the new VR was playing and stuff too.

[00:35:04] So.

[00:35:05] Did you ever get satellite?

[00:35:06] We, my. So again, I lived that I lived Elliot's like childhood. So like it was really easy for me to like, um, dive into this story and like connect with the character and like visualize the world that he was living in. Um, I think I

[00:36:22] think honestly that's what made this story so much special for me was it was my home. It was by himself. He sat there playing for a bit until there was a knock at the door. I like this little like, just this little insertion of like that something is very wrong here, not just like the scenario that you were getting of like this skivy like Mr. Bear camcorder footage, but the fact of the story just insinuates just kind of like inserts this little like

[00:37:41] that the police had already spoken to Elliot prior to him like posting his blog about this

[00:38:46] took me to the house. And then that's when the police became involved. Those endless questions, those pictures of terrified kids, the woods. Yeah, seriously, super not dad of the year.

[00:38:54] There were so many red flags. Also, I mean, he had to get home to watch the football game.

[00:40:04] that he's that guy. That's what I assumed. But when those kids quote, quote, dried up,

[00:40:10] you asked for more. Yeah, when they when they burned up and crisped and dried up, yeah.

[00:40:17] Yes, for more. He decided to like, he decided to get ballsy and go with an airing and address to children. Yep. God, so fucking ski V and creepy. It is. Um, only 10, 10, 10, the other ones have the other ones have all been connective tissues with like me just like living this character's like life as a kid. Um, but yeah, I have seen this place or at least a lot of places exactly like it.

[00:41:43] Growing up and traveling with my family to an aunt and uncle who live in down TV studio on the side of the road. And this was after I had read this creepy pasta for the first time. And I think I even like in those early, I think it was even like in the early days of ADR when I like when I when we had traveled and passed this place. And I couldn't help but wonder like what if Mr. Bear had used a closed down studio rather

[00:43:00] than a a farmhouse like not like because like, like how it would like network the broadcast and such, right? So yeah, no, this whole thing is just like, yeah, going down to Caledin, like to the rule, because Caledin is a pretty rural like area. It's not even like a full town. It's like, it's a bunch of small towns, like just kind of connected by back roads.

[00:44:23] But and in the in between spaces, it's just event in 1999, and his part that he played in the narrative of it.

[00:45:40] And that could have been it. Up till honestly, I could have honestly taken it as a short creepypasta where it just ends with him explaining what had almost happened to him and such because that, this was like, I can stop right now. This is just like, this is effectively part one, like, or like, or like, like this part one is basically like a concise, like creepy story. Now it does keep going for like a bunch of updates and stuff like that over the next like two talked about the two shows I watched, but also another two shows I had never seen before. And so like, I kind of got me wondering because like, as I was reading this part, like of the NeoSeeker discussions's like, I wonder if the author of 1999 had ever read candle Cove. And then I had to like actually like start digging and like when was candle Cove first posted? When was when was 99 posted? I was like, okay, cool. So there like 99 came after candle Cove. So like there is a window of opportunity

[00:51:00] where like the author may have read candle Cove.

[00:51:03] I'm not saying they did.

[00:51:04] And I'm not saying like like it's fine

[00:51:06] if they were inspired by it, but I did get a chuckle at the sudden, like mood swing Between like the updates is like yeah, I'm like really I'm actually getting really excited this the next time It's like sorry guys. I've probably forgot about this blog because I lost interest in it I know but like it does explain why he stopped getting interested because he hit a dead he hit a he they a roe block

[00:53:25] shots you take. Yeah, basically. Also, this might be a little insensitive, but maybe have the shots be orange juice and vodka. Yeah. And if anybody who doesn't know what I'm

[00:53:32] get like, if you haven't guessed that reference, it's in the story about what Mr. what Mr.

[00:53:37] Bear gives the kids.

[00:53:39] Yeah, give us an orange juice with a drop with something with a drop of some kind of sedative Like that's what that's what kennel cove is but like when I was referencing kennel cove I wasn't referencing as like connecting them to be pronounced. Okay. Okay. I Um, it's just Fair enough. Yeah So yeah, yeah, and again just like being silly and like I don't know if it's in sense of not it's a fictional story

[00:55:00] But it is grounded in true crime kind of horror

[00:55:03] But yeah, the just like I just threw that out there of there like because he's 15, like give him a pass on that. It's still kind of just bugged me that like, oh, he's using like in the in the lore in the setting birthday is in April. Yeah. Okay. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General. I went with General.

[00:57:40] I went with General.

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[00:57:42] I went with General.

[00:57:43] I went with General.

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[00:57:45] I went with General.

[00:57:46] I went with General.

[00:57:47] I went with General.

[00:57:48] I went continue though. It's not this next quote and comments, but it's coming up. So he took me to Davis. So this is the same entry for, so it's like February 10, 2010. He took me to Davis Road police station. If chalk this up to just being a fictionalized version of Caledon and the Peel region. Yeah, which is another safe way of doing it too. Yeah. And then another thing I have here,

[01:00:21] I will sign off for now, get into university first and get information later. Hopefully,

[01:01:21] looking into this mystery and such.

[01:01:25] Yeah, it's just like a, it was just sort of a thought of mine.

[01:01:26] Like as it was like talking about him going to university.

[01:01:31] But I'll go into the next thing I have here.

[01:01:33] This is update May 8th, 2010.

[01:01:38] I wondered, I wondered where the seller entrance was located

[01:01:42] and whether it had been sealed up.

[01:01:44] I walked around to the back of the house

[01:01:46] and found my answer. bad feeling about the cellar door like locked I might add and decided to get away from it. That part is understandable like speculating like having in your head like like dreading like what a what if scenario like what if someone's still around for example like what if Mr. Bear still here or some killers in there and some of that but then you look out to the woods behind

[01:03:01] the property after seeing the the the the cellar so I'm going to the forest all right fair enough that's the way I saw it anyways yeah but I'll move on to is Pooh Bears or Pennywise's voice, which is also one of the similarities that the two characters have in the theory. Yeah, yeah.

[01:05:40] Because like Winnie the Pooh's voice

[01:05:41] and Pennywise's like softer, like, like,

[01:05:44] luring voice is very much like the same.

[01:05:46] It's like, hello.

[01:06:43] or Pennywise's voice, which just added on to the creepiness of it because it's like that weird

[01:06:46] kind of like soft little voice.

[01:06:49] Hello.

[01:06:51] Like that kind of thing.

[01:06:52] Yeah, it's also like, yeah, it's super muffled and Kenny.

[01:06:56] Yeah.

[01:06:58] Oh.

[01:06:58] Oh.

[01:07:04] Wait, I'll move on to the next thing I have here.

[01:07:06] Here is what the kids told me in detail. And other questions like these leave the story invalid. So, unless Mr. Bear is Pennywise or a similar entity, subtly manipulating the locals into not contacting the police, or even manipulating the police into not investigating despite the potential layer, like location of the layer and such.

[01:08:22] The reason the urban legend exists and persists in Caledon engineering in brackets. Yeah, I'm a keener. What the fuck is a keener? Well, according to Google, it's a Canadian term for someone who is extremely eager to please. I don't know what that has to do with being a computer engineer maybe because he's had one

[01:09:41] to do. Well, I was saying like, maybe it's because he's so

[01:09:44] focused on his studies, hence why he forgot the blog for like I'm guessing I'm back next entry. Yeah, I guess it got back Yeah, I guess I I'm back So it's like I love yeah, it is like so now yeah leon is now just john wick And it seems silly now because we're reading it all at once But when you're reading it in the moment when it stops and then you see the new update and him saying yeah

[01:11:03] Back like that's cool. Yeah, and also yeah, exactly. Yeah, I, the TV broadcasting and like the public access, accessibility and such. And then we get this quote here. It's like, now my roommate knows about all this. He thought this letter was real and actually seemed more scared than I was for

[01:12:21] a second, but then I shrugged it off.

[01:12:24] So he did too.

[01:12:25] I mean, that, or what is the reference to the email address? Just return the B. Return. Return the bear. Yeah, but why is that like, uh, I see what you did there? I don't know. Honestly, I don't know why that's that. Did anyone get that? I just kind of like honestly, I just shrugged it up. Yeah Yeah Also, like I don't think I honestly like reading this email I don't think this is Mr. B. This is Mr. Bear either like like Elliot is like his response like I also

[01:15:00] But I also don't entirely understand Elliot's response to it like him and like how he's explaining his response to it like

[01:16:03] he went to Caladin because he still lives near the house and he was watching. Yeah. That's how to get his email. I don't know.

[01:16:06] Maybe. Well, no, actually, I haven't.

[01:16:07] Something in his car.

[01:16:08] I have an explanation for the email. That's really easy and simple.

[01:16:11] You weren't letting me talk. No.

[01:16:13] So I was trying to get my.

[01:16:15] Yeah, I know. I know how it feels.

[01:16:18] Yeah.

[01:16:19] Regarding getting the email, actually,

[01:16:23] he probably got it off of the blog or. So literally, like, and Larry, he's dealing with like cybercrime or that's the pass on that. But number two, I did actually give, I gave it the old Google Maps check and yes,

[01:20:20] there is a police station right next to

[01:20:23] and even on the same property as the Bramley City Center.

[01:21:25] You go now. It's like more like 20 or 30 minutes you then you get out of the sprawl of like industry

[01:21:32] industrial parks and like suburbs and then you're you're getting into like the more pastoral rural areas outside of Brampton

[01:21:37] But I digress I'll move on to the next thing here

[01:21:47] Yeah, this next one I have is the inry poem from Mr. Baird to come soon. Elliot and then it got hacked and the hacker put that at the end of his last entry. Oh, OK, so that's it. Those updates saying OK, here we are. But I feel like he should lead with it. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get at. Like because I'm looking at like the next entry that he posts and like he it is in that entry because that's the last entry.

[01:23:02] But it's like not like total like the last part of things I have here are, okay, there's a couple, because it's all in the same update. It's that April 5th, 2011 update. I wanted to update more. I truly did. However, certain circumstances had turned me off the whole Caledon Local 21 thing. I've since then had hundreds of emails about my blog and was even in contact with a magazine

[01:24:26] about my story. But I was persistent. He gave me an offer if I was still interested by the time I turned 20 He would show me the tape Not being able to do much else. I Just played the waiting game by the time my 20th birthday rolled around. I was definitely still interested in viewing the tape

[01:25:40] Okay, so that that sentence right there at the end like by the time I rolled around by time my 20th birthday rolled around heard of and maybe this is why he called himself a keener earlier. He's just like really like smart and gifted in terms of like like getting things done at a young age. But the average age of high school graduates is 17 to 18. And then again like like we brought up the G2 you would

[01:27:02] have had to been like 16 17. You would have take the G2 test. Okay. But still, yeah. So again, my stance stands. There's still indescrepancies here.

[01:28:21] There's a bunch of just time plot holes podcast stuff that have tackled 99 have had their episodes taken down

[01:29:40] because they were dealing with stuff that

[01:29:42] was the stories after the 20, this last update.

[01:29:46] So most of the, that's great,

[01:31:00] because he should be,

[01:31:01] because like that's sort of,

[01:31:03] well, it's logical for him to be like,

[01:31:05] feeling that kind of stuff for good or ill, author was hoping to do more and then just never did. But like, why project that in the last entry given Eliot's state of mind in the final entry? Yeah, it kind of does cheapen that the last video

[01:34:43] because it was just so horrifying and horrific.

[01:34:46] And he did kind of get his answers as to like what Mr. Bear had done to those kids.

[01:34:48] He got to see what happened to them.

[01:34:51] So like, yeah, Mr. Bear's still out there,

[01:34:54] but maybe he's not, maybe it's Maybelline

[01:34:58] or maybe Elliot will just move on with his life

[01:35:02] and become a computer engineer

[01:35:04] and maybe even leave Ontario entirely to get away from all this.

[01:35:08] That's what it seemed, he says that. And then the next one is just a creepy Mr. Bear message. Like you would just be saying to anyone who wants to come and see Mr. Bear. Here's the address. Oh man, to quote Walter White.

[01:36:20] You're goddamn right.

[01:36:22] That is, yeah, that is how you would,

[01:36:25] you should, that should, this should have like come to a close is have like So the quote here back in November 2009. The channel was only available to older TVs because the signal issue without mentioning age. So, for college and universities, it's what September, January, and I think April

[01:40:20] or something like that, where you would transfer. So the fact that it's between October and November,

[01:41:23] That doesn't do anything for the story itself.

[01:41:28] Well, the only thing is that in Waterloo, he's closer to Caledon.

[01:41:30] Yeah, like Caledon is like... Which means he can investigate.

[01:41:31] Oh, I guess.

[01:41:32] And in Ottawa, he's far away.

[01:41:34] So that it was his excuse to why he hasn't been updating because he's too far away.

[01:41:39] Yeah.

[01:41:39] That's why I was a woman.

[01:41:40] Yeah.

[01:41:42] Yeah.

[01:41:43] So when, as gamers point out, you could just say I was busy with school and.

[01:41:47] Yeah, true.

[01:41:48] You don't need distance. He was, he just like, he just bounced from Waterloo and went on to Ottawa. Um, or you can insinuate a plausible excuse. Why? Yeah. Uh, all right. So, uh, my next note is my last time discrepancy. Uh, I just got to get it out there.

[01:43:01] That's good.

[01:43:03] Um, the INRI post, uh, like early October or. Yeah. This is, I think this is, I think this is, I think this is all like a temper, like a temporal, a time discrepancy. Um, when, when he was saying, like, I can't believe it's, it's been like a whole, like here's what I've been doing because it's been like a whole year. And I think, I think he thought that the last update was 2010.

[01:44:22] And that this one was 2011. I think that is the problem here is the, either the author or like the thing, like the times don't make sense. Yeah. So the- That's why I'm like- You're not getting an accurate timeline Yeah. Of the events. Yeah, because it's like it's not even like one or two and like they're not simple time discrepancies. It's like they're pretty blatant time, like time discrepancies. And there's more than a couple.

[01:45:43] So, yeah.

[01:45:44] Yeah.

[01:45:48] All right. for the ghost writer from that TV show in the 90s. Because the ghost would type on a computer. And so like, and Ellie was going into computer engineering. Wow. It was a ghost in the machine. Wow. Also, anybody that doesn't know what ghost writer is, check it out.

[01:47:03] It's really, I don't know if it's actually.

[01:47:05] It's like it's departed. I just keep imagining him just like falling backward like, but his knees are still up. Yeah. That's good. Hey, anyway, I was a tangent with that one.

[01:48:20] Yeah, that we had critical mass of silliness with that one.

[01:48:26] Yes. So he does it. Also, yeah, actually, here's the thing that I don't think ever gets answered. He heard like when he when he finally heard the voice of the guy in the woods, like in one of those like those episodes that he didn't watch as a kid, he recognized the voice of the person. I guess it's supposed to be in Sydney that like he recognized as being Mr. Bear's voice. Yeah. But like that's one that is like, I remember like reading it as like, is this

[01:49:43] going to come up again?

[01:49:44] Like he's going to like find some revelation that's like somebody in his life.

[01:49:47] So dad.

[01:49:48] Yeah.

[01:50:45] ahead of time. Yes, it is sort of a nice edge of like trying to figure out like how to write things where like you don't your character doesn't know the answers, but you do. And like how to make that

[01:50:49] like writing. Yeah, like how not to reason why the character can't talk about it. Which is the

[01:50:55] main thing that I think could have been used really well here is like he witnessed some shit. I'm

[01:51:00] still recovering from it. I'm not talking about it right now. the Twilight ears are being a baby before they turn into a kid, right? Yeah, that's why it's the angelica years rather than than the Tommy Tommy Pickles years And then Regarding like all the timestamps and shit. Yeah, I

[01:52:21] appreciate

[01:52:23] but

[01:52:24] Like didn't really understand them aka like the first set of

[01:53:26] Okay, but at the start, he said that the station only ran a few shows since it only ran for five hours a day. So shouldn't all of these shows be the ones that he's watching in a day, like during the five hour period?

[01:53:32] What does the timestamp have to do with it?

[01:53:34] It's not showing the same show for five hours for an entire month.

[01:53:38] I think actually that might have been what it was doing, like was like the...

[01:53:42] It's just one show on repeat for five hours.

[01:53:44] Every single day for an entire month. Elliot keeps like like going back to channel 21 like I imagine like maybe he's like he's watching it for a little bit And then the one show goes like goes and then it starts like rerunning is like okay I'm gonna turn it off because like I've already seen this episode But it should have said that like you said, I don't know it just says like Every everything he was talking about sounded like it played multiple shows per day

[01:55:00] So I the time stamp stuff didn't make sense to me. I wish it was just the time stamps that he wrote on his blog. Yes, I know that. Um, yeah. No, I'm just like confirming like just like iterate reiterating that I'm not like accusing you of not knowing that. Um, but, um, I often not know things. So I have to assume that you're so. Um, so I do feel also, uh, you're talking about the email thing.

[01:56:21] Uh, he has contacted me about this story.

[01:56:22] Slack, Elaine, a female.

[01:56:25] Oh shit.

[01:56:25] On the right at the top of the story.

[01:56:27] Never mind.

[01:57:21] Aaron. Or it should also explain like it's like this, the channel only ran a few shows probably

[01:57:24] because it was only operational between former nine.

[01:57:27] I only watched a few like I would get bored pretty easily and only watch like a couple

[01:57:33] of like a half hour to an hour of it.

[01:57:35] And then I would leave or I would switch, I would find another channel.

[01:57:39] So like that would give it because because later on like he finds that like he, there

[01:57:42] were other shows that were playing that he was not aware of because he didn't watch those Does Mr. Bear have a cameraman or does Mr. Bear like set up the camera, record the scene, get up, turn it off, move the camera to the next spot, record, etc. I ask this because when it comes to the knocking on the door, they'll be waiting there for him while he sets up the tripod and gets the shot and hits record, goes up, brings the

[01:59:03] kids in, they walk down past the camera and then he stops record and brings the tripod

[01:59:08] into the other room. And they could be wearing a creepy disguise as well, of course, or what have you. Yeah, is Mr. Hare. Yeah. Just a rabbit. Yep. This is really just bordering into Five Nights at Freddy's. It's like, yeah, but this was proto five nights, but like, yeah, like Mr. Bear is like, yeah, Mr. Bear is Freddy's.

[02:00:22] Oh, God, it is like the sequel is just like were they just like leaving their houses and going by on their own? Or were they having similar to what Elliot had where his, their parental unit was taking them there and then just leaving them there? Yeah, and if that was the case, fine. But the parent would come back and be like, where's my kid? Why is there one here?

[02:01:40] I'm going to the police.

[02:01:41] Exactly.

[02:01:42] Or like we even had the kid who was like,

[02:01:44] like my sister has to come town or so because again, Caledon is not the thing is Caledon isn't actually a like spoke like a centralized city or town. It's basically half of half of Peel region is Caledon.

[02:03:04] Yeah.

[02:04:07] years. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I can't have fun here. No, it's 99. No one had fun. 99. Yeah. We'll go to some Tim some

[02:04:14] tim bits as well for the little ones. But either way, I'll

[02:04:20] move on. Yeah. So in, like a kid can bounce back from like this little hiccup. I don't know how well they'd be able to bounce back from like being told that they were nearly kidnapped and killed by a serial child murderer. Yes. So the dad who's still at large.

[02:05:43] That's the other thing. Mr. Bear is So that's. That's how I feel about a police officer showing a 16 year old kid all this stuff. You know, 16 year old. I can kind of 16 years. 16 years is kind of.

[02:07:00] That like border time. which I have posted as well. Also, let me tell you it was not Storm Drain, they said. Shame there's no picture. Yeah. I remember when we first, when I read this, I did, the problem is I first read the story on the creepypasta wiki back in like 2014-ish. So like it was the one that was like tainted by like other people

[02:08:22] tampering with it and stuff.

[02:08:23] But I do remember Hunt for Red October. Great movie and all that. But some connective tissue seems to have happened because of it because right when the movie

[02:09:41] ended, I continued reading the story.

[02:09:44] So in the movie, the main character says that it does involve skeevy, real world type horror involving kidnapping and killing children. I don't necessarily think that. I think it's not true. It is pretty great. Like, there's a couple of people I know, like Adam from RPX, for example,

[02:11:03] I would actually be reticent really fucks with me. I'm moving on Elliot signing off. Like those

[02:12:25] have been these last words and stuff and that'd as the updates kept going. Like I think there needs to be some fixes for the updates to make them more coherent and more conclusive. So I will partially recommend this story and conditionally based on like who I know who I'm recommending it to.

[02:13:43] So Mikey, the East Dance Reval.

[02:14:42] videos that are in evidence.

[02:14:47] Well, they also like a decade old cold case basically, but yeah, but

[02:14:48] they're still considered.

[02:14:50] Cause you still in the. Yeah, an active cold case.

[02:14:52] Yeah.

[02:14:52] Yeah.

[02:14:53] Yeah.

[02:14:54] So, but it's still like it's still evidence.

[02:14:57] Yeah.

[02:14:58] Um, and.

[02:15:01] People who aren't police aren't privy to the evidence unless you're,

[02:15:06] there's a court case or something.

[02:16:02] having be an adult rather than a teenager.

[02:16:03] Yeah.

[02:16:09] Yeah, like if he was doing it for a project or something and got clearance somehow because of the university,

[02:16:14] then yeah, that would solve that.

[02:16:19] Yeah.

[02:16:19] But as it stands him getting access to

[02:16:24] not just one precinct, more in realism of like, well, no, they're not cops are obviously not going to give it to them, like the information, but they are at least on his side because he provided them with some new clues and evidence to this case.

[02:17:41] It's like decades long cold case.

[02:17:43] So yeah, I see just the as it stands, I do not recommend this.

[02:19:01] Okay, fair enough.

[02:19:04] Gamer.

[02:20:04] and how a lot of it doesn't make sense because everything is dated.

[02:20:11] It kind of ruins it a little bit pulls back my enjoyment of it when you think about that.

[02:20:16] So I feel like this story would work better without any dates.

[02:20:20] It's just like I watched these back in 1999.

[02:20:21] It is now.

[02:20:23] Do you think I'm really.

[02:20:28] Yeah, I'm looking back into the past now because of reasons like But the character of Mr. Bear and all the different iterations of shows he makes are cool. I personally thought they were all being played on the same day, like maybe the same five shows every single day for the whole month or something. But it didn't say that. I kind of wish there was a little... I wish there was more clarity throughout the story about like how things work,

[02:21:41] because this is all about the Paladin Local 21 station. of the accounts from the 1999 event. If that had just been done to like a short story, it would have been a succinct, nice, creepy pasta short story. I wonder too, if the character, if the person takes the material they have now from all like all these updates, got rid of all the timestamps and like got rid of the update format and had just and converted this into a story

[02:23:02] of like a basically the person telling it from this,

[02:23:04] like he is like, he made me promise like wait till I'm was 22, watch the show. Well I was 20, rolled around and I was still adamant about watching the episodes like there. That's all we got to know.

[02:24:20] Then we know that like, he was a realistic horror story of something that could theoretically happen. Of this creepy guy that's luring kids and doing unknown things to them, it's not cool in the coolest way possible in regards to

[02:25:41] wanting to read a story to get creeped out because actually a very plausible thing to have done. If you have the right tools and stuff with that or just rent like what Mr. Bear did.

[02:27:01] Yeah.

[02:27:02] And he explains like, like, yeah, I'm just getting away with it, but like in the States, they

[02:27:05] would have been on top I do like it. There are a lot of things that can be done to make it better. No story for it obviously, but we did stumble over a lot of stuff, not even talking about time stuff. There are still a lot of oddities in the story, like missing pictures and the dad seeming

[02:28:21] to not give a shit.

[02:28:22] Like maybe if he was explained that he was a negligent parent anyways, then okay. and then making it seem like it was the original creator. Correct. And then even plagiarizing other material to make entries and stuff. But that said, I get why people did do that early in the 2014 era, because the story it is, as it is, by the end of it, you want more.

[02:29:41] So I can understand why people wanted to do that.

[02:29:43] It's just really shitty that that. At that time, yeah, to penetrate the time stamps. Do you like the story at that point? If all the time related problems were finished? Well, the problem is, is that there's still the cop letting him view the tapes.

[02:31:02] Yeah, so there's some there's something that would have to be improved for like,

[02:31:04] like, but yeah, yeah.

[02:31:06] And I mean of like, it's, it's a, there's a little bit more of a subtle like, the killer could still be out there watching him stalking him as he's diving deeper in still out there. Yeah, he is. Yeah. He went to Caledon. That's true. Yeah. If we, if we assume that that, that, that, that email is, or if you didn't leave us a comment in the comment section below, where are the skits posted? We're all on Twitter. Mikey is at the East Dance for Evil. The game are yellow is at the game right now, but without that W at the end, because his name is very long. It is, but I don't have a choice at

[02:33:40] this point. No. And I'm at review cultist. we'd have nothing to talk about. And this is the story that in that

[02:35:00] got me on the path of creepy pastas. So your fault. I'm just horrifying.

[02:36:22] Sorry I just cut like a weird like, like off my phone.

[02:36:25] I was like, what the fuck is that?