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[00:00:18] Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis. I'm Review Cultist.
[00:00:23] I'm Mikey, the East Ends for Evil.
[00:00:25] And I'm the Gamer in Yellow.
[00:00:26] And we're here to discuss those internet stories, most creepy and most pasta, and be critically silly doing it.
[00:00:32] And tonight we have the return of SCP-Cember. SCP-1075. The Forest Normally Known as Vince.
[00:00:43] So, yeah, it's December as this episode is getting posted. So we are into SCP-Cember once again.
[00:00:51] You know we gotta.
[00:00:53] Yeah, it's a tradition now. It's literally a Christmas tradition.
[00:00:57] Yeah, it is.
[00:00:57] That we've done for like years and years and years. And we're never gonna run out of SCPs.
[00:01:03] Well no, because they make more SCPs than the amount we do in SCP-Cember.
[00:01:08] Exactly. Yeah, even if we were to do like an entire, even if we were to like completely devote the show to SCPs, we would never get them done.
[00:01:16] Yeah, never.
[00:01:18] But, um, that's not the point. The point is, we select SCP entries from a list that we've accumulated over the year and pull it out like a sack full of presents and see what we find.
[00:01:33] I'm gonna be honest, I'm not sure why or how this ended up on my SCP list.
[00:01:41] This one specifically. Like SCP-1075, I don't know why it's on the list or how it got on the list.
[00:01:49] Like I don't remember who sent it to us. I don't remember if it was from a YouTube comment or if it was from an email.
[00:01:56] I like I've looked like I've did a little bit of skimming. I can't find anything about it. It just it's on our list now. So.
[00:02:04] Um, and it feels rather appropriate, honestly, given that type of thing for an SCP to just pop up on our queue.
[00:02:12] But, um, I digress. Uh, yeah, we're so.
[00:02:16] SCB 1075, the forest normally known as Vince is by Dr. Samarian, uh, on the SCP foundation website, SCP dash wiki dot wiki dot dot com.
[00:02:28] My favorite website.
[00:02:30] Uh, so you can check it out there. Uh, otherwise we're going to dive into it and give our recommendations and whatnot.
[00:02:36] Um, so yeah, initial recommendation. I'm going to recommend it.
[00:02:41] I am also going to recommend it.
[00:02:44] Uh, yeah, I'll recommend it too. It's good and weird.
[00:02:47] Well, uh, let's, let's dive into the, into the entry and find out exactly why.
[00:02:53] Um, so the rundown I've got for this is SCP 1075 is a mimetic anomaly in Pagosa Springs, Colorado.
[00:02:59] The effects of which makes the permanent residents of the town believe that a nearby forest of 493 Aspen trees is in fact a well-connected member of the community named Vince Aspenson known by the foundation as SCP 1075 dash one.
[00:03:17] The anomaly plants, nice whole portions of false memories in individuals residing in the town to give affiliation familiarity and even in-depth relationships and drama with the SCP entity.
[00:03:35] Once the residents, uh, once a resident leaves the town for good, like, or like, like permanently like moves out of the town and such, uh, it appears that they lose any and all memory of the individual known as Vince and interactions with them.
[00:03:50] And it's not until like documents are forged or like manipulated to, so that they are back in the town that they suddenly get those memories back.
[00:03:59] A foundation task force is in play on site fencing off the forest and disseminating counter-mimetic action to manipulate the locals into viewing the anomaly under a negative light.
[00:04:14] So far, with a successful turnaround, though, there is some hints that the anomaly is actually aware of the foundation's actions and wants it to stop.
[00:04:26] Finn.
[00:04:28] Yeah, that's basically the entity, uh, and the, the entry.
[00:04:32] Um, it's a memetic thing that is affected, that, that is surrounded around a, uh, a forest that makes people think that it's a person.
[00:04:41] Um, so, yeah.
[00:04:45] Um, do we have, I would usually go into our, everyone tolerates the grammar inquisition.
[00:04:51] Do we have one?
[00:04:53] Do we, did anybody have, find anything for, for grammar inquisition?
[00:04:57] Uh, I have a conjunction junction.
[00:05:00] All right.
[00:05:01] Uh, then.
[00:05:03] I have a normal grammar one, yes.
[00:05:06] Okay.
[00:05:06] Okay.
[00:05:07] In that case.
[00:05:08] Everyone tolerates the grammar inquisitions!
[00:05:10] At this point.
[00:05:12] And now, and it's, nope.
[00:05:15] Do all the intros one after another.
[00:05:18] Well, he, he can start his it story and I can go through my grammar simultaneously.
[00:05:23] And then you can just take those tracks and lay them out properly, right?
[00:05:27] No, don't do that, please.
[00:05:30] Future me will kill me!
[00:05:32] Yeah.
[00:05:33] Not me.
[00:05:35] Yeah.
[00:05:36] All right.
[00:05:36] Either way.
[00:05:38] Um, but yeah, um, and next stop.
[00:05:43] Oh, okay.
[00:05:43] I thought it was going to be, okay, okay.
[00:05:45] My bad.
[00:05:46] Doesn't he normally finish with conjunction junction or?
[00:05:48] He usually finishes, he usually does.
[00:05:50] He does all the shit and then I go.
[00:05:52] I do my, I do my shtick and if I don't do my shtick, then my, Mikey moves onto his shtick
[00:05:56] and then he does, then you go onto your shtick.
[00:05:58] Occasionally he has pulled out of conjunction junction after me though.
[00:06:02] So first cultist, then Mikey, then fry.
[00:06:07] Okay.
[00:06:08] Conjunction junction go.
[00:06:09] It was listed as a member of the town council considered active in local charitable organizations
[00:06:16] and a focus of romantic interest for several female and at least one male resident.
[00:06:23] It was an easy credit for me since my grandmother was from Mexico.
[00:06:31] It was fast, but Pagosa Springs is beautiful in the spring.
[00:06:39] It takes several minutes for her to recover enough to continue.
[00:06:46] It's fine, Miss Alberita.
[00:06:51] But eventually I guess I did.
[00:06:55] And I couldn't help him.
[00:06:58] So you got a divorce.
[00:07:01] It's our future as much as the kids' future.
[00:07:07] And then?
[00:07:09] It was a couple of years after that I, uh, I called him about his parents.
[00:07:18] It's just, I've known Vince since high school.
[00:07:22] And even though he got an astronomy degree, he was thumbing it teaching high school physics.
[00:07:31] So the accusations hit you pretty hard.
[00:07:34] But he says he didn't do it.
[00:07:40] It doesn't sound like he's doing alright.
[00:07:45] But he's said some stuff that makes me wonder.
[00:07:50] It is believed that there are no longer any SCP-1075 sufferers currently sympathetic to SCP-1075-1.
[00:08:07] Finn.
[00:08:11] I...
[00:08:12] I'm like...
[00:08:17] It's so disjointed.
[00:08:22] I know.
[00:08:23] It's almost like that happens when Mikey grabs a bunch of sentences through the story that start with words that they probably shouldn't.
[00:08:29] Like its, ands, or buts.
[00:08:30] Because there's always better words to use.
[00:08:31] And strings them together into a story.
[00:08:34] Yes.
[00:08:35] Although I will contest some of those were dialogue.
[00:08:38] But...
[00:08:39] Yeah.
[00:08:40] Yeah.
[00:08:41] Yeah, no, it's just like, I was trying to follow along.
[00:08:44] And try to parse something together with it.
[00:08:46] And just like, alright, when's the it with something ridiculous?
[00:08:49] But like, that never really came.
[00:08:50] It kind of like blended into like, almost like, we're hearing like one side of a story.
[00:08:56] To degree?
[00:08:57] But, yeah.
[00:09:00] That is just how it is sometimes.
[00:09:04] Gamer, what do you have for Grammar Inquisition?
[00:09:06] Yeah, I got one.
[00:09:07] Under no circumstances are individual trees considered part of SCP-1075-1 by local residents to be damaged by Foundation activities.
[00:09:19] So when I read...
[00:09:20] Whoa.
[00:09:21] Yeah.
[00:09:22] See?
[00:09:22] I stumbled over this a couple of times when I read it.
[00:09:24] Partially because like, the SCP hasn't been explained yet as to what it is.
[00:09:29] And like, a couple of commas would really help with this.
[00:09:31] Because it's...
[00:09:32] At the start of it, it almost seems like...
[00:09:34] Seems like...
[00:09:35] Under no circumstances are individual trees considered part of SCP-1075.
[00:09:41] Period.
[00:09:42] Yeah.
[00:09:42] But that's not what it's meaning.
[00:09:43] No.
[00:09:44] No, it isn't.
[00:09:44] So if it was commed out, it would be...
[00:09:47] Under no circumstances are individual trees considered part of SCP-1075-1 by local residents to be damaged by Foundation activities.
[00:09:57] Or you can put that center part from considered to residents in brackets maybe.
[00:10:05] Yeah, I was thinking that actually.
[00:10:06] Completely pull it out.
[00:10:07] Or reorganize it so it's like this.
[00:10:10] Because trees that are considered part of SCP-1075-1 by local residents are not to be damaged under any circumstances.
[00:10:20] Yeah.
[00:10:22] Actually, it probably needs a common...
[00:10:24] Or by...
[00:10:24] Damaged by Foundation activities under no circumstances.
[00:10:29] Oh, yeah.
[00:10:30] Yeah.
[00:10:30] Yes.
[00:10:31] For sure.
[00:10:34] Yeah.
[00:10:35] No, I agree with that.
[00:10:36] Yeah.
[00:10:36] Like, it's like...
[00:10:37] I remember kind of skipping over...
[00:10:39] Or like tripping over that a little bit.
[00:10:40] And it was like, oh, trees considered...
[00:10:42] It was like, under no circumstances are individual trees considered part of SCP-1075-1.
[00:10:49] Meanwhile, that's the entire premise.
[00:10:50] That's the entire premise of the story.
[00:10:52] Yeah.
[00:10:52] It's like, oh, no.
[00:10:53] Under no circumstances, comma, are individual trees considered...
[00:10:57] Are individual trees considered part of...
[00:11:00] Yeah, it's really weirdly...
[00:11:01] It is.
[00:11:03] We get it.
[00:11:03] Like, it's really weirdly, like, written the way it is.
[00:11:06] Mm-hmm.
[00:11:07] Yeah.
[00:11:07] So I think you definitely, like, hit it on the head with brackets, though.
[00:11:11] Because I think that would also, like, help it tremendously.
[00:11:13] Yeah, brackets are the easiest.
[00:11:14] Or reorganization.
[00:11:16] Yeah.
[00:11:17] But that's the only one I got here.
[00:11:19] All right.
[00:11:20] Then on to actual thoughts.
[00:11:22] So I'm going to start with the nickname of this SCP entry in the list.
[00:11:27] So, like...
[00:11:28] The forest normally known as Vince sounds an awful lot like the artist formerly known as Prince.
[00:11:34] I'm on to you, Dr. Sumerian.
[00:11:36] And assuming that is the person who coined the nickname in the entry list.
[00:11:41] Because sometimes, like, who knows?
[00:11:43] Maybe, like, somebody else, like, coined the nickname.
[00:11:45] But...
[00:11:46] Yeah.
[00:11:47] Like, that definitely does seem like...
[00:11:49] I think we had this conversation, like, off-recording.
[00:11:52] Yes, we absolutely did.
[00:11:53] Like, that might very well be the entire premise of this SCP.
[00:11:56] Like, the inspiring, like, note for this entire entry was just, like...
[00:12:03] The forest normally known as Vince.
[00:12:06] Yes.
[00:12:06] Yeah.
[00:12:08] I mean, again, it's...
[00:12:10] I smile at it.
[00:12:11] Because it's just like, ha!
[00:12:12] That's a nice rhyme.
[00:12:13] Yes, I do appreciate.
[00:12:15] I do wonder if, like, the name was different before.
[00:12:18] And then, like, someone brought up the idea of the pun.
[00:12:22] So then he's like, oh, okay.
[00:12:23] I'm changing the forest name to Vince now.
[00:12:26] Instead of Steve.
[00:12:27] Or whatever it was.
[00:12:28] Yeah.
[00:12:28] Mm-hmm.
[00:12:29] Exactly.
[00:12:30] Oh, maybe.
[00:12:31] Who knows?
[00:12:33] And then the next thing I have are the images that are presented in this entry.
[00:12:38] They work really well for me.
[00:12:39] Uh, the pre-founding Pagosa Springs photo and the ID card of Vince Aspenson.
[00:12:45] Um, part of me was actually wondering if the figure in the old photo that's shown is supposed
[00:12:51] to be suggestive of SCP-1075-1 or if the trees behind that person in the upper right are actually supposed
[00:12:59] like, because they're both kind of in the upper right of the photo, uh, like the, like the little,
[00:13:03] like, kind of underquote says.
[00:13:05] And, like, is the image, in that kind of vein, like, is the, um, uh, the image has this figure there
[00:13:14] in the same tile area.
[00:13:15] So, like, is it supposed to play on the idea that the reader slash viewer might have fallen
[00:13:20] under the influence of Vince?
[00:13:23] Um, like, just something I was like, like, as I was like looking at this image, I was like,
[00:13:26] hell, that's a really cool image.
[00:13:27] Like, that's a nice image.
[00:13:28] Like, shows like, and then I read the little, like, blurb.
[00:13:30] It's like, a historical image of Pagosa Springs prior to its founding.
[00:13:34] SCP-1075-1 appears in the upper right of the photo.
[00:13:38] And then you look at that, it's like, oh yeah, there's a forest.
[00:13:40] There's also a guy there.
[00:13:42] Wait, is that supposed to be Vince or is that the, is the forest in the background supposed
[00:13:46] to be Vince?
[00:13:47] I don't think so because, okay, like.
[00:13:51] Am I reading too deeply into it?
[00:13:53] You might be because realistically, look at the picture.
[00:13:58] Yeah.
[00:13:58] Then vertically go down half.
[00:14:01] Yeah.
[00:14:02] The trees are above half.
[00:14:05] So it's an upper right.
[00:14:06] That's true, yeah.
[00:14:06] The dude is below or mid right in the middle.
[00:14:10] So it's referring to the trees, although him being there is an interesting kind of connection
[00:14:15] you can make for sure.
[00:14:17] Yeah.
[00:14:18] It makes you kind of like, like, I'm not, I'm not saying like, oh, like clearly that's
[00:14:21] the thing.
[00:14:21] I would just say it's like, it definitely might make you think as you're looking at it.
[00:14:24] It's like, wait, is the trees or the person?
[00:14:27] Yeah.
[00:14:27] Cause if you start.
[00:14:29] Yeah.
[00:14:29] Cause like the first thing I did was look at the picture.
[00:14:32] Yeah.
[00:14:32] And then I'm like, okay, what the hell is this referring to?
[00:14:35] Is it referring to the guy?
[00:14:37] I know it's about trees cause we talked about it off recording, but yeah.
[00:14:41] Yeah.
[00:14:41] And then with the, uh, uh, with the, the, I just love doctored, um, uh, ID cards and documentation.
[00:14:50] Like it just adds an extra level of, of immersion.
[00:14:53] Um, and I, I also just love the, uh, the, the information that's provided on that document.
[00:14:58] Like, uh, it's just like, like height, 94 feet, 11 inches.
[00:15:04] That's fine.
[00:15:06] Wait.
[00:15:07] Um, a lot.
[00:15:08] It's like, it's like, I can't, I, I, I've never been good at like, at saying those high
[00:15:13] numbers or reading those high numbers.
[00:15:15] It's like one, a hundred, 100,000 63.
[00:15:19] I don't know.
[00:15:20] Like it's, it's ridiculous.
[00:15:23] 163,183 pounds.
[00:15:25] Thank you.
[00:15:25] Yes.
[00:15:26] Uh, also God damn.
[00:15:28] Yes.
[00:15:29] Um, and then like date of birth, like the second of, or the, uh, the February 10th, 201 AD.
[00:15:36] Um, yeah, I just, I just love it.
[00:15:38] He's a voter though.
[00:15:39] Yeah.
[00:15:40] He's a voter.
[00:15:40] His eyes are green and his sex is male.
[00:15:43] Yeah.
[00:15:45] Um, also it's interesting.
[00:15:47] Yeah.
[00:15:47] Like there, there's a notation in like the listing of like all the, like the documentation, uh,
[00:15:52] or like there's a, yeah, there's a, um, uh, a footnote that says like, apparently the
[00:15:56] printed version of his name, Vince Absinson, um, is presented there.
[00:16:01] But then like his, when he, uh, signed his name, it was Vincent Aspinson.
[00:16:06] And like, every time you hear the name, it's Aspinson, not Absinson.
[00:16:10] So there's like a weird typo in the actual like legal documentation.
[00:16:16] But yeah.
[00:16:17] Yeah.
[00:16:17] Yeah.
[00:16:17] Cause it's not like a real person.
[00:16:19] So it's entirely possible that people like got the wrong wording for things.
[00:16:23] Yeah.
[00:16:23] Well, and I mean, government agencies can get names wrong.
[00:16:28] So.
[00:16:28] Yeah.
[00:16:28] I mean, it's not that big of a stretch.
[00:16:31] I mean, I should also like, as somebody who has a last name, that's that people find very
[00:16:35] hard to spell.
[00:16:36] Like, I understand.
[00:16:39] Yeah.
[00:16:39] They just can't get cultist properly.
[00:16:42] They just can't get in yellow.
[00:16:44] Yeah.
[00:16:44] It's actually in the, it's in space yellow, but they always say it's like in yellow.
[00:16:49] Is it, oh, is that Spanish in yellow?
[00:16:52] Or they just don't put the W on the end.
[00:16:53] Cause my name's too damn long.
[00:16:55] Yeah, that's true.
[00:16:56] Yeah.
[00:16:56] Yeah.
[00:16:57] They always think my last name is cultist.
[00:16:59] And I want to add an E.
[00:17:04] Anyway, I digress.
[00:17:05] I'm going to move on to the next thing here, which is from special containment procedures,
[00:17:10] mobile task force, theta 29, Michael Palins are to be utilized to manipulate public opinion
[00:17:18] of SCP 1075 dash one in the local community.
[00:17:21] So I really like the insinuation here that they, like they, they've, they've,
[00:17:26] entered this counter memetic campaign to, to try and like halt this thing's like spread
[00:17:32] or like just the main, like contain it and stuff like that.
[00:17:34] Um, by, by, by also giving the task force, like the group, the task force, an individual's
[00:17:40] name.
[00:17:41] But I kind of wish that the entry went a little bit more into that, like actually like showed
[00:17:46] that, like maybe the townsfolk think that like the entire task force is one person.
[00:17:53] And like, that would have been interesting.
[00:17:54] Yeah.
[00:17:55] Yeah.
[00:17:55] Cause like it's, it's, that's what it seemed like to me.
[00:17:57] Like when they, when they referenced this, it was like, oh, is this going to be like sort
[00:18:00] of a, like, um, like a counter campaign sort of battle, like a camp, a social, uh, a social
[00:18:06] conflict where like, they're trying to like engineer, um, this like other entity to stop this,
[00:18:12] this entity.
[00:18:13] So Michael, uh, Palin is like a British actor and comedian.
[00:18:18] Well, yeah.
[00:18:19] It's like an actual person.
[00:18:21] Well, I mean like every name is, is somewhere in the world.
[00:18:24] I mean, that's fair.
[00:18:26] Um, like I'm sure there's a Vince Aspenson somewhere, like in somewhere in the world.
[00:18:31] Let's see what Google says.
[00:18:34] A few hours later.
[00:18:37] SCP 1075 is the first thing that shows up.
[00:18:41] That's awesome.
[00:18:42] Is there no other, like, oh, there's some other people.
[00:18:44] Like there's like, uh, yeah, there's like a Vincent from, uh, some old, old gentleman,
[00:18:48] uh, who died in 1998.
[00:18:51] There's like, I'm getting lots of other, uh, like random miscellaneous Vinces.
[00:18:56] Oddly enough, I'm getting a keg steakhouse on Facebook.
[00:19:01] Yeah.
[00:19:01] So again, like I'm sure again, like there are like names, like again, like no names original
[00:19:06] anymore.
[00:19:07] Like there's literally like 5 billion plus people on the planet.
[00:19:11] There's going to be a name, but yeah.
[00:19:15] Um, it is also interesting to like when, when they just pull like a fictional name and it
[00:19:19] turns out to be something real.
[00:19:20] So, so, um, but yeah, I just kind of wish like this entry had gone a little bit further
[00:19:25] into the whole, like, uh, task force like activities and like under the name Michael Palin's like,
[00:19:32] yeah.
[00:19:34] But, um, I'll move on to the next thing.
[00:19:36] Basically two fake people like fighting each other.
[00:19:39] Yeah.
[00:19:39] It's a fake.
[00:19:40] It's a fake off.
[00:19:41] It's a fake out.
[00:19:43] Yeah.
[00:19:45] No, it's a fake off because it's like, it's like face off, but faking out.
[00:19:48] Yeah.
[00:19:49] Nice.
[00:19:49] Yeah.
[00:19:51] Uh, but I'll, I'll move on to the next thing I have, which is a description, uh, under the
[00:19:55] description, uh, section, uh, SCP 1075 is an anomalous psychological effect, which is
[00:20:02] extant among permanent residents of Pagosa Springs, Colorado.
[00:20:06] Those subjects, those subjects to SCP 1075's effects believe a clonal colony of 493 trees belong
[00:20:14] to the species Populus tremuloidus and which are designated SCP 1075-1 is a human resident
[00:20:23] of Pagosa Springs, Colorado.
[00:20:26] So Pagosa Springs is a real town in Colorado.
[00:20:30] And I mean, of course I looked it up because I'm me.
[00:20:33] Yeah, of course.
[00:20:34] Uh, and then as it turns out a lot, basically every location in this document in this entry
[00:20:39] is real, like Greendale, which is near Denver.
[00:20:43] Um, uh, there's no name for the main, for like the, the, the place in Maine, but like
[00:20:47] it means exists.
[00:20:49] Um, but one thing actually that's interesting is so like in the, in the, uh, the driver's
[00:20:54] license card that we get, it says, uh, it actually gives us an exact date, uh, exact address
[00:20:59] of where you can find the trees, uh, 65, um, uh, Archuleta County, um, or County Road, Pagosa
[00:21:09] Springs, Colorado.
[00:21:10] Um, while the, I couldn't find the road on Google, Archuleta County is the county where
[00:21:17] Pagosa Springs exists.
[00:21:19] So, um, yeah, again, I just, I like, again, I like when, when there's real places that you
[00:21:25] can look up, uh, for better or worse in some cases, but yeah.
[00:21:32] Um, also looking at the type of tree that Vince is supposed to be, or Vince is like the,
[00:21:38] the, um, populous, yeah, yeah.
[00:21:44] So that populous is, um, like, um, it's, uh, it's basically a cottonwood tree, like, uh,
[00:21:51] aspen.
[00:21:52] So like, hence why his name, his last name is also Aspenson.
[00:21:55] He's the son of Aspen.
[00:21:57] Um, but yeah, if you look at those trees, like it's, it's similar to like a birch.
[00:22:00] Although they are separate species of, of tree.
[00:22:04] Um, but like birch and cottonwood trees have that like kind of creepy eye pattern in their
[00:22:10] bark.
[00:22:10] Like, cause it's all, they're all like white bark, like white paper, like bark.
[00:22:13] And they've got those black, uh, kind of like eyes that, uh, eye patterns from like where
[00:22:18] like branches, uh, would like, like branch knots would be.
[00:22:22] Um, and so I, I, it already is, it's actually kind of like a perfect tree to use for like
[00:22:26] a creepy poster or a horror thing because they already have that kind of creepy effect with
[00:22:29] that, with the, uh, with the pattern.
[00:22:31] But yeah, for sure.
[00:22:33] Um, and so on the, on the whole thing of like the fact that this anomaly is this, um, like
[00:22:39] creating this psychological effect upon the residents of Pagosa Springs and believing
[00:22:42] that a group of trees is actually a person kind of thing.
[00:22:46] Maybe it's because I've been prepping for some Shatterrun recently on One Less Die.
[00:22:52] Sorry, Mikey.
[00:22:53] Uh, but I could see this happening as a free spirit, perhaps even a free plant spirit, um,
[00:23:01] in, in the world of Shatterrun, uh, who has laid claim to a region and indoctrinated the
[00:23:07] local inhabitants of the town on the land with a similar dominating zone of influence.
[00:23:14] Um, perhaps, perhaps it's even some kind of geomancy, um, ritual or like some kind of
[00:23:20] geomancy, like, uh, like, uh, like ritual circle or, or some kind of like, uh, uh, anomaly
[00:23:27] effect that is, uh, that was, that was laid down and, uh, is like doing something to the
[00:23:32] people.
[00:23:33] Like they're like basically living in like kind of a la la land dreamland where they think
[00:23:36] this, this sacred forest or this force that's being used as part of the ritual is actually
[00:23:41] an individual, uh, by a bunch of like druidic or like nature loving, uh, shamans and stuff
[00:23:47] like that.
[00:23:48] Um, and I have some other ideas like down the, down the way in this, uh, but I'll, I'll get
[00:23:52] to them as we get to those, uh, those quotes, uh, from the story.
[00:23:56] Um, but yeah, I just, again, getting some, uh, getting some big, uh, free spirit, nature
[00:24:02] spirit vibes from this creature, from this, and this anomaly to me.
[00:24:05] Yeah.
[00:24:06] Um, uh, next thing here, uh, from the document list, uh, in the description.
[00:24:12] Um, so the care, so, uh, Vince apparently has a bachelor's degree in astronomy and I, I
[00:24:17] just like that this SCP has a bachelor's in astronomy as it is a forest of trees that just
[00:24:23] kind of sits there and stares up at the sky all day.
[00:24:28] So of course that they'd have their, their part of their personality quirk or their, their,
[00:24:32] their false identity.
[00:24:33] They'd have like a, a hobby or a, a career where they just stare up into the night sky.
[00:24:40] That's to me.
[00:24:41] Yeah.
[00:24:41] It, it, it, it makes an odd sense.
[00:24:44] Uh, it makes an odd amount of sense when, when dealing with, uh, with a plant-based or tree-based,
[00:24:51] uh, anomaly.
[00:24:53] Plant-based?
[00:24:54] It sounds like it's like a food.
[00:24:56] Yeah.
[00:24:57] It's, what is it?
[00:24:59] Uh, yeah, no meat anomalies.
[00:25:01] Yeah.
[00:25:03] Um, but yeah, move on to the next thing with, uh, this is from, uh, Elizabeth Alberta's,
[00:25:08] uh, interview.
[00:25:10] Though Miss Alberta had no memory of SCP-1075-1, an attempt was made to change her legally
[00:25:17] registered address to inside Pagosa Springs city limits for the duration of this interview.
[00:25:23] Despite being conducted outside of SCP-1075's normal area of effect, this was sufficient
[00:25:29] to affect the temporary restoration of Miss Alberta's false memories of SCP-1075's dash
[00:25:37] one.
[00:25:38] So that's a really interesting, like, quirk to the, to the mechanic, to the memetic, uh,
[00:25:44] function of this infection.
[00:25:46] Like, uh, like, it's an interesting vector is that it's not just the exclusive, uh, it's
[00:25:51] not just exclusive to the zone of influence that this thing is, is like in, it's not like
[00:25:55] the proximity, but it's also even a connection via documented paperwork, falsified or otherwise,
[00:26:02] that would reconnect the victim to the area where the zone of influence is.
[00:26:08] Um, which gives it kind of a bit more of a creepy scope to me, cause it's like, um, like
[00:26:14] the fact that somebody could just like falsify some information, some, some, some documentation,
[00:26:19] some legal documentation that would have you become, be a resident of this location, uh,
[00:26:25] where you were infected in the first place.
[00:26:26] And suddenly it rekindles that automatically, like remotely.
[00:26:30] It's weird how it could just do that.
[00:26:33] Yeah.
[00:26:33] It's like almost like it's some kind of like a, it's like a weird, like wireless trigger
[00:26:37] for your mind or like a psychic trigger basically.
[00:26:42] Um, or subconscious trigger even.
[00:26:44] Um, and then, uh, I, I even wonder what would happen to someone who steals a person's identity
[00:26:53] from that place.
[00:26:55] Cause like, that's a big thing.
[00:26:56] Like people like, you know, like stealing people's IDs or identification to like, uh, to basically
[00:27:01] like leech off of their, their funds and such.
[00:27:04] What would happen if like somebody like stole a person's identity in from Pagosa Springs, but
[00:27:11] they suddenly have all these, like this rush of memories.
[00:27:15] That like, and would it even be, would it, would it be as like true as the ones that were
[00:27:19] in the town?
[00:27:20] Or would it be like, sort of like, you know that there's, these are false, but they feel
[00:27:23] so real.
[00:27:24] And then like, you just have a psychotic episode as your mind is just constantly rolling, uh,
[00:27:29] composure checks as you're like being, uh, invaded by these false memories of like
[00:27:34] a lifetime of knowing somebody.
[00:27:37] Yeah.
[00:27:37] You may have a bad time for sure.
[00:27:38] Yeah.
[00:27:39] I just, I think it would be a really interesting story for the foundation to have to deal with
[00:27:42] like, Oh God, this, this, so this person like stole the identity of, of this, of a resident
[00:27:47] from Pagosa Springs.
[00:27:48] And now they're talking about, they're, they're going crazy and talking about like this, uh,
[00:27:52] this Vince guy.
[00:27:53] It's like, Oh crap, we gotta go deal with this person.
[00:27:56] And this, that's the real, like, so it takes, it takes like a real world kind of issue with
[00:28:01] like a false, like, or like identity theft.
[00:28:03] And then like adds in that element of supernaturals, like kind of like the comeuppance or the karma
[00:28:07] and, uh, and, uh, your consequences to your choices.
[00:28:14] Um, also really fucked up that it gave Miss Albarata memories of giving birth and then losing
[00:28:21] a child.
[00:28:22] Yeah.
[00:28:23] That's extremely fucked up.
[00:28:24] Like I, it is an anomaly, so it's not necessarily human in its motives.
[00:28:28] If this thing has something like motives, it might have an intelligence behind it as we find
[00:28:35] out kind of at the very end, near the end of the story, or this is all just like the mechanical,
[00:28:40] like kind of pattern work, uh, that's of, of the implanted memories and hallucinations.
[00:28:45] So like, it might not actually have like a human or any kind of intelligence.
[00:28:49] It's just kind of like a triggering effect.
[00:28:51] Um, but it's still like, why?
[00:28:54] Like maybe, maybe just to create like that out of the relationship cycle for her, uh,
[00:29:01] while still maintaining like a sympathetic link to the anomaly for some reason, it, it
[00:29:07] really does kind of beg the question as to like, why is it doing this?
[00:29:10] Um, maybe just for believability.
[00:29:12] Cause it's like, it's not perfect all the time.
[00:29:15] It's basically like fricking rolling a dice every time it interacts with someone, whether
[00:29:20] it's going to be a good or a bad or an indifferent sort of, uh, interaction with that person.
[00:29:25] Yeah.
[00:29:26] Yeah.
[00:29:26] That's like, yeah.
[00:29:27] Like it's definitely like, it asks those questions and like, and kind of merits like
[00:29:31] a discussion in regards to that.
[00:29:35] So, um, and then the next thing I have here is from Lambda four document, uh, on March 8th,
[00:29:42] 2013, law enforcement officers traveled to SCP 1075 dash one's list or listed address and
[00:29:49] remained inside their car for 24 minutes.
[00:29:51] Following this, the officers reported that SCP 1075 dash one was in custody and traveled
[00:29:57] to the local police station.
[00:29:59] Though this event appeared to be peaceful charges of resisting arrest were included in the original
[00:30:06] indictment.
[00:30:07] This is one of those moments in this entry where I think you could have a lot of fun if you
[00:30:13] were to like use this as inspiration for a game scenario.
[00:30:16] Um, the idea of people just claiming to do things like NPCs in the, in a town that you're
[00:30:21] investigating, um, claiming to be claiming, claiming events, claiming scenarios that are
[00:30:27] completely fabricated into the, in their minds.
[00:30:30] And like, you get to see that in action, like as an outsider viewer, like, like a player character,
[00:30:34] like in, like investigating and like following up, like following somebody who's like going
[00:30:38] out to do something.
[00:30:38] And then they just sit in their car and just like, ah, like just like mouth open, just
[00:30:43] like eyes rolled up in their head or just like, or just zone out like in their, in their car
[00:30:48] for like 24 minutes solid before moving, before like going back to like where they were.
[00:30:53] It's like, yeah, no, we arrested that guy.
[00:30:54] He's fine.
[00:30:55] Yeah.
[00:30:56] I feel like it's almost creepier if they're just sitting there, just staring into blank
[00:31:00] space, but not like visibly looking like they're being messed with.
[00:31:03] Yeah, exactly.
[00:31:04] Cause it's just like, cause yeah, when you, when somebody just like freezes up and just
[00:31:07] like, doesn't look like a meat, like just completely like their mind just completely like
[00:31:11] freezes as they're locked into like that, it almost has this creep, more creepy effect
[00:31:18] than like, again, the more kind of Hollywood theatrical, like zone out kind of effect.
[00:31:24] Like, uh, like you said.
[00:31:25] Yeah.
[00:31:26] Plus, um, other people witnessing this wouldn't question it.
[00:31:30] Cause okay.
[00:31:31] The dude's just zoning out or something, you know?
[00:31:33] Yeah.
[00:31:34] And again, a little bit more believability, even though like everyone is brainwashed here,
[00:31:38] basically.
[00:31:38] Yeah, exactly.
[00:31:40] And again, back to Shatterrun.
[00:31:43] Sorry, Mikey.
[00:31:43] Um, on, on a tech side of things, rather than being something, a spirit based, although you
[00:31:48] could probably make the spirit as well, uh, like some kind of magical effect as well on
[00:31:52] a tech side of thing for the origin of this anomaly.
[00:31:55] What if it's some kind of bypassing signal to the brain or some kind of nanite swarm in
[00:32:01] the air that infects a person's like, uh, mind, uh, and implants these simulations within
[00:32:07] their psyche?
[00:32:08] Basically some kind of like psychos, uh, psychosurgery or gaslighting situation.
[00:32:15] Like it's basically like, like, and like with, with nanites, you'd never be able to really
[00:32:18] tell unless you had some kind of special gear to like pick them up in the air.
[00:32:22] And with like a signal, like the, you'd, the only, like, you'd have to like have some
[00:32:27] kind of like special, again, specialized gear to like really like figure out where the, where
[00:32:30] the signal's coming from because there's some signals that are so high frequency or,
[00:32:33] or like the frequency is so higher or off slightly that like, you can't even hear it
[00:32:38] with the naked ear.
[00:32:39] Right.
[00:32:39] So, um, so it could be affecting, uh, certain people different ways in this town.
[00:32:45] Um, or because they're all permanent residents that are being affected.
[00:32:49] They, it's basically just like, uh, indoctrination through exposure.
[00:32:53] So like, they've just been here long enough with the exposed, um, signal or whatever it is
[00:32:59] that they're now affected.
[00:33:01] They're completely like under its, under its wing.
[00:33:03] Yeah.
[00:33:04] If they move away, they're still connected to it.
[00:33:07] As long as they are officially living there because they, they have been connected to,
[00:33:13] to the Vince, uh, through exposure already.
[00:33:18] It kind of reminds me of actually in Mass Effect.
[00:33:20] Um, so in the first Mass Effect, there's an individual that you encounter who's working
[00:33:24] with the Reapers and she is like very much like she, she, she, she was working on like
[00:33:30] the, the signal that Sovereign was giving off the, the big, the big giant, like menacing
[00:33:34] robot in, in Mass Effect one, um, that was indoctrinating people.
[00:33:39] And, but she was worried that she was going to become, uh, indoctrinated herself.
[00:33:42] And so she leaves, like you, you have a chance to like basically have her, like, like you
[00:33:46] spare her and basically have her run, get away, um, before, and presumably before she's become
[00:33:51] indoctrinated herself.
[00:33:52] However, you encounter her in the second game.
[00:33:55] And then in the third game, you get her, you see her again, or, you know, you don't
[00:33:58] see her, but you hear about her.
[00:34:01] Basically, um, she was, she was actually indoctrinated very subtly.
[00:34:05] So when the Reaper attack, when the full on invasion of the Reapers happen and they start
[00:34:09] using their indoctrination signals, she was already infected.
[00:34:13] So it basically just triggered in her mind and she went off and, and just, and destroyed
[00:34:17] a colony.
[00:34:18] Something along those lines.
[00:34:19] It was, but yeah, it's sort of a, like sort of a, um, a delayed reactor, a latent, uh,
[00:34:25] a latent trigger basically.
[00:34:28] Uh, and that's kind of what this thing gives off again.
[00:34:30] Like, it's kind of seems like that kind of creepy, like psychic, uh, psychic domination,
[00:34:35] but like in some people it's like, uh, like they're able to like, when they leave the town,
[00:34:40] like, uh, leave the town's residence permanently, it goes away until they are reconnected.
[00:34:46] Like you, like you said, so.
[00:34:49] Um, yeah, just, uh, I could use this for so many good ideas for a game.
[00:34:56] Um, sorry, Mikey.
[00:34:58] And, and honestly, sorry, Dave, or sorry, sorry, gamer, because you're, you're, you're the one
[00:35:03] that's going to run into this.
[00:35:04] Yeah, exactly.
[00:35:05] Then I have to not metagame it.
[00:35:07] Like if you remember what it, what's happening, it was like, oh, shit.
[00:35:12] It's, it's, it's Biff from, uh, back then he's like something awfully familiar about
[00:35:16] all this.
[00:35:17] Yeah, basically.
[00:35:19] Um, that's why I'll just wait until I, until I spring the trap.
[00:35:25] Tomorrow.
[00:35:27] Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
[00:35:29] You'll never suspect it tomorrow.
[00:35:31] Yeah, exactly.
[00:35:33] Uh, and then, uh, my last thing here for, uh, for my, um, actual thoughts.
[00:35:39] Uh, this is from interview, the interview with Jennifer Smalls or sorry, Jennifer Small.
[00:35:44] I kept wanting to call her Jennifer Smalls because of Biggie Smalls.
[00:35:48] Stuck in that too, actually.
[00:35:49] Yeah.
[00:35:50] Uh, but yeah, this is what the interview with Jennifer Smalls.
[00:35:52] Um, uh, he says he, he says he's been inside or he's been inside a building.
[00:35:58] The people trying to frame him have put up on his property.
[00:36:02] He says there's proof there that he's telling the truth.
[00:36:06] Agent Stevens is the replying.
[00:36:08] I, I, uh, can you, can look into that for you?
[00:36:12] Yeah.
[00:36:13] Did he say, see where it was?
[00:36:15] Jennifer Small.
[00:36:16] Well, just that it was on his property.
[00:36:19] Go talk to him and he can take you right to it.
[00:36:23] Agent Stevens.
[00:36:24] I will do that then.
[00:36:26] So like that, this right here was like a really fun little bit.
[00:36:30] Like, cause it hints that like there is an intelligence in the anomaly or that the false
[00:36:36] identity of the anomaly has its own intelligence or is, has its own awareness at least.
[00:36:41] Maybe not intelligence, but an awareness that it is, it has been observed.
[00:36:46] The foundation's activities while they are observing it, uh, and is aware in some way as to their
[00:36:55] counteractions to its abilities and its influence.
[00:36:58] Um, I just, just think that's a, I just think that's a really nice, creepy thing to have
[00:37:05] at the end of this entry.
[00:37:06] Like basically at the end of this entire thing is that like up until now we've just kind of been
[00:37:11] treating this thing as just some kind of like psychological anomaly that's happening.
[00:37:14] And then we get a little bit of taste of like, oh no, the anomaly is aware of us.
[00:37:18] Yeah.
[00:37:19] It's actually, and so it adds that extra level of like, um, it stacks onto the, the anomalies
[00:37:26] unknowableness.
[00:37:27] It's an inscrutability.
[00:37:28] Um, and now we know that it has an awareness or there might even be an intelligence behind
[00:37:32] it.
[00:37:33] And that's even creepier.
[00:37:34] So like, I dig that.
[00:37:36] Cause when you give something an intelligence, like, like, or like not, I'm not saying like,
[00:37:40] oh, the ability to speak.
[00:37:41] Cause the ability to speak does not, does not, uh, does not mean you're intelligent.
[00:37:47] Uh, as, uh, I would not go that far.
[00:37:51] I would, I, I have joked in the past, but you are, uh, you are an intelligent individual.
[00:37:55] If you say so.
[00:37:57] Um, but I, uh, but yeah, uh, yeah.
[00:38:02] In this case, like, yeah, like I, I honestly think like a, something that is like unknowable
[00:38:07] to us, like we can't really comprehend, uh, because of like, we don't know what's motives
[00:38:11] or anything like that.
[00:38:12] Or at first we think it's just like some kind of chaotic thing in nature, like an anomaly.
[00:38:17] And then the fact that it has an intelligence means that it has, it has its own motives.
[00:38:22] It has its own agendas or it has, it might have its own goals as alien as they are.
[00:38:27] And like, even if we can't understand them, we know that they might have those, which means
[00:38:31] it has intent.
[00:38:32] It's not random chance, which is, I feel like more sinister in some ways than if it does,
[00:38:40] if it doesn't have an intelligence, if it isn't just, um, random chaos in the universe.
[00:38:49] But I digress on my existential dread.
[00:38:51] I actually wonder like what its actual motives are.
[00:38:53] Yeah, no, 100%.
[00:38:55] Um, cause like, again,
[00:38:56] What's it trying to do?
[00:38:57] Like, is it just trying to chill?
[00:38:59] Like, honestly, like it also just could be like, Hey, I'm Vince.
[00:39:03] I just want to hang out.
[00:39:05] I just want to be a member of the community.
[00:39:06] I'm lonely.
[00:39:07] I've been here since 250, uh, I've been here since like 200 AD, man.
[00:39:12] Like you guys are the first like people that I've been able to actually talk to.
[00:39:18] That will be actually really fucked.
[00:39:19] Like, like that's also kind of fucked up in its own way because like the, the establishment,
[00:39:23] the foundation, um, is perceiving it as a threat or as a possible threat when really
[00:39:29] this is a buddy horror.
[00:39:31] Yeah.
[00:39:32] At that point.
[00:39:33] Yeah, for sure.
[00:39:34] Like he's not doing anything.
[00:39:35] He's not doing anything harmful.
[00:39:37] Like he, yes, he's causing some like,
[00:39:38] some, some, uh, some distress, some, some, some minor psychological stress and drama.
[00:39:45] Um, and yes, he is kind of gaslighting, which is kind of not great, but it is some, it is
[00:39:49] an alien entity or an alien presence that has just been like hanging out.
[00:39:52] It just wants to want to be part of the community.
[00:39:55] So it's not really being malicious per se.
[00:40:01] Again, like it, it, it, it, it, the only reason it's being, it's, it's, uh, it's been, it's
[00:40:07] not really malicious is so much as just like, it's created it like these fabricated memories
[00:40:13] that are, that are creating sort of trauma and drama to certain individuals.
[00:40:19] But like, that's no more different than like a simulated relationship.
[00:40:28] So it's kind of, it's kind of a gray area really.
[00:40:31] So, but like, really the only reason like people have a negative light on this thing is because
[00:40:36] the foundation is doing a counter, uh, a counter, uh, some counter memetic action against it.
[00:40:43] So like, who's, who's the bigger monster here?
[00:40:47] Vince, uh, because he's manipulating people.
[00:40:51] Um, and I would tend to be by, in terms of like size, like he is the bigger monster, but
[00:40:55] yeah, but yeah, um, I don't know.
[00:41:01] It's, it's definitely one of those gray areas.
[00:41:03] Like who is the monster here, the foundation or the end, the SCP entity.
[00:41:07] And it's like, I mean, literally the monster is the SP energy, but like, what does he do?
[00:41:13] A doing that's so terrible outside of a, maybe, I guess, you know, yeah, you know, I guess
[00:41:19] this is sort of actually a similar situation to like what, uh, what Wanda did in WandaVision.
[00:41:24] Spoilers ahead.
[00:41:27] We're like, she, she accidentally took over an entire town and manipulated them into living out
[00:41:34] their existence as various television sitcom genres.
[00:41:40] Oh, is that what the premise was?
[00:41:41] Yeah.
[00:41:42] Yeah.
[00:41:42] The entire premise of WandaVision is basically each episode was a different genre of TV like
[00:41:46] show that Wanda, Wanda grew up on.
[00:41:49] And it was all a coping, an unconscious coping mechanism combined with her chaos magic.
[00:41:55] See, never actually watched that.
[00:41:57] Yeah.
[00:41:58] But like, yeah, like, like how would, like, how would the people of Pagosa Springs feel
[00:42:03] if they, if they were all, it was all revealed that like they were being manipulated by this
[00:42:07] weird anomaly of trees?
[00:42:11] Would they, would they have the same kind of reaction that the citizens had after WandaVision,
[00:42:16] which are like, fuck Wanda.
[00:42:17] She, she fucking like controlled us for almost a year.
[00:42:23] Yeah.
[00:42:24] You can't really be angry at them for thinking that because yeah.
[00:42:28] Yeah.
[00:42:28] Yeah.
[00:42:29] Yeah.
[00:42:30] It all depends on like, I guess like, like, I think the gray area lies in like the intent.
[00:42:34] Like, is this thing doing this like on purpose?
[00:42:36] Is there some kind of insidious, uh, uh, insidious, uh, um, intelligence behind it?
[00:42:43] Or is this just like, it doesn't realize what it's doing is wrong kind of thing?
[00:42:49] Because again, like cassette, like, uh, al dente rigor mortis consent is good.
[00:42:57] That has been a, an al dente rigor mortis message of the day.
[00:43:01] Consent is good.
[00:43:02] Even when, even, uh, especially with psychic, uh, uh, psychic brain fuckling.
[00:43:08] Yes.
[00:43:11] But I digress and I am done with my actual thoughts.
[00:43:17] So Mikey, these stands for evil.
[00:43:20] Yeah.
[00:43:20] So the thing is like, I feel like this is a story about a force that just wants to get
[00:43:32] to know humans.
[00:43:33] Yeah.
[00:43:35] And, uh, the Vince did nothing wrong and the SCP is, uh, causing false accusations against
[00:43:45] him to, to make the townsfolk despise him.
[00:43:50] I mean, fair.
[00:43:51] Why can't we be friends?
[00:43:54] Why can't we be friends?
[00:43:57] You know, you know, he needs to go, uh, meet this, uh, meet Vince.
[00:44:00] Joey fuck nuts.
[00:44:03] Joey fuck nuts.
[00:44:04] Yeah.
[00:44:05] Yeah.
[00:44:05] Cause I mean, yes, he did cause psychological trauma.
[00:44:13] Technically.
[00:44:14] Cause the person believed they gave birth and, and, and then the baby died in a very horrific
[00:44:22] way.
[00:44:23] I might add, like, or a very traumatic way to like, I, again, the quote is like, I didn't
[00:44:28] know babies could get that kind of cancer.
[00:44:30] It's like, Oh God.
[00:44:34] Like, it's pretty uncool.
[00:44:35] Honestly.
[00:44:36] No, like, yeah.
[00:44:37] Like again, there, there lies the gray of this, of this conundrum is like, I agree with you,
[00:44:42] Mikey.
[00:44:42] Um, like on the surface, it doesn't seem like Vince did anything wrong except he did.
[00:44:52] But does he know he's doing wrong?
[00:44:56] But what if he, he was just trying to find out if he could mate with humans?
[00:45:01] Like, and the answer was no.
[00:45:06] Oh God.
[00:45:08] You don't know that.
[00:45:09] Yeah.
[00:45:09] He ran a simulation.
[00:45:13] Oh Jesus.
[00:45:14] Yeah.
[00:45:17] Yeah.
[00:45:19] I mean, before that, like he, you get that he's a, an outstanding member of the town.
[00:45:26] On city council, um, is charitable.
[00:45:32] Yep.
[00:45:32] Like everybody likes them until the SCP jumps in.
[00:45:37] But to, to what, I think what game we're saying earlier is as well.
[00:45:42] Do, does everybody like him because of him or because of him?
[00:45:48] Like, do they like him because like, like, do they like him because like voluntarily or do
[00:45:54] they like him because that's what he's implanting in their minds?
[00:45:58] Every single memory that they have of him is something he did not do.
[00:46:04] Yeah.
[00:46:04] He hasn't done any of this cause he's a fucking forest.
[00:46:07] So he's a liar.
[00:46:09] Or a psychic anomaly that's just using a, yeah.
[00:46:12] Wait, I'm, I'm also like, like, what if this anomaly is just like the psychic buildup
[00:46:16] of, of tree, of, of that trees, like of those trees, like they've like created like sort
[00:46:22] of a high, like they've created a consciousness from their energies into a, uh, like they're
[00:46:28] the first like cops of trees that have actually been able to like interact with humanity through
[00:46:31] like psychic waves.
[00:46:34] Um, but yeah, no, like going back to the actual, like, uh, suggestions here, like, yeah, it,
[00:46:40] he's implanting these memories.
[00:46:42] He's not like actually like interacting with them directly.
[00:46:49] He's manipulating them indirectly.
[00:46:55] Uh, then the question is, does he know any better?
[00:46:58] That also lies in the truth because like, is it actually a true intelligence or is it just
[00:47:03] an anomaly that doesn't know what it's doing?
[00:47:06] Cause again, it's sort of inscrutable and inhuman.
[00:47:09] So we don't even know if the trees are what he is.
[00:47:14] No, exactly.
[00:47:14] Yeah.
[00:47:14] We're just, yeah.
[00:47:15] He could be using the forest as a cover and it's the actual intelligence is in some crypt
[00:47:21] that's buried in the forest and it's some like psychic monster or some shit.
[00:47:26] It could also just be an, like, just again, a psychic, uh, buildup that's just anchored
[00:47:32] to the, to the space time location where those trees are.
[00:47:37] Like it doesn't even have to, it could be something cosmic.
[00:47:40] It could be something psychological, um, something ethereal, something in the earth,
[00:47:45] something in the air, the trees.
[00:47:47] We have no idea.
[00:47:49] And that's what makes this anomaly really interesting is because it's so unknowable
[00:47:52] otherwise.
[00:47:54] Even if it is a situation where like they banished some fucking demon into a crypt there
[00:48:01] and then the trees grew up out of the crypt and all that.
[00:48:04] And he's able to connect to the town around through the trees or whatever, but he's still
[00:48:12] just kind of like a bro now.
[00:48:13] Like he's like, okay, whatever.
[00:48:15] They got me.
[00:48:16] I'm stuck here forever.
[00:48:17] I'm going to at least just chill and hang out in my retirement.
[00:48:19] Like you can't hate him too much for that.
[00:48:22] At least.
[00:48:23] I'm also, uh, as you, as you're, I'm just taking some notes for shadow run.
[00:48:26] Sorry.
[00:48:27] I can't shut up.
[00:48:30] Demon beneath the earth, imprisoned and dead, but its soul is still connected to trees that
[00:48:36] have grown there like a geomancy ritual.
[00:48:43] Shadow run.
[00:48:43] So good.
[00:48:44] It's so good.
[00:48:45] So good.
[00:48:45] And so bad at the same time.
[00:48:48] But, uh, yeah, no, uh, again, like I, I love this conversation we just had.
[00:48:52] Like, it's like, it's like, like, what, like, is it bad?
[00:48:55] Is it good?
[00:48:56] Like, does it have an intelligence?
[00:48:58] Like, and I'm not hearing any actual concrete answers because like, that's kind of, we don't
[00:49:02] have any, the story unfortunately just kind of stops before we get any of that because
[00:49:08] maybe just the foundation doesn't know anymore yet because that's where they are in the story.
[00:49:14] But that's my, okay.
[00:49:16] Jumping into my thoughts a little bit here.
[00:49:17] That's one gripe I have with this is it, the story just sort of stops.
[00:49:22] It doesn't end.
[00:49:24] Well, and you know what I mean?
[00:49:25] I understand like your, your, uh, your gripe with that.
[00:49:28] That's also the point of a lot of SCPs because like, it's an ongoing investigation, ongoing
[00:49:34] investigations.
[00:49:34] And like on a more meta level, they are supposed to be just like thought provoking.
[00:49:39] Like what we did just now that congrats, we, we've achieved the goal of this SCP entry
[00:49:44] probably is just like to have a conversation as to what the hell Vince is.
[00:49:49] So, but yeah.
[00:49:55] So Mikey, you're still on, on, uh, on team, on team Vince.
[00:49:59] Yeah.
[00:50:00] All right.
[00:50:03] And, uh, that's into my actual thoughts.
[00:50:06] All right.
[00:50:07] Gamer.
[00:50:09] I have actually chimed in on all of my thoughts.
[00:50:12] That's fine.
[00:50:13] I mean, that was a very organic, uh, conversation and, and, uh, I've been like, I'm like hit,
[00:50:21] like hitting the home runs all day with that.
[00:50:24] Um, but yeah, so I guess if that's it for actual thoughts, we move on to final thoughts.
[00:50:28] Um, so yeah, I'm still going to recommend it.
[00:50:30] Um, maybe, maybe conditionally, um, really just like, and, and the condition is more just
[00:50:37] like a consideration, like know your audience kind of thing.
[00:50:40] Like to just to show the side of the SCP that is not super spooky or violent, but just weird
[00:50:48] and potentially existential.
[00:50:51] Cause like Vince is kind of creepy, but he's not like, um, some of the various other SCPs
[00:51:00] where like, don't blink or you die kind of thing.
[00:51:02] It's more of just like, uh, it's, it's sort of a chill horror because it's like, it's,
[00:51:07] it's this thing in this place doing a weird thing and kind of fucking around with the people
[00:51:14] there.
[00:51:14] But it's not.
[00:51:15] Vince is, Vince is fucking a Berenstain Bears situation.
[00:51:20] Like we're like, you don't know which way is the right way to say it.
[00:51:23] Cause he, it's just that level of like, it doesn't really matter too much.
[00:51:27] Yeah.
[00:51:28] You sort of chill.
[00:51:29] Yeah.
[00:51:30] Like surface level, he's not doing anything looking a little bit deeper into like what
[00:51:34] it is doing is kind of fucked up.
[00:51:37] So, but like, that's, that's, that's it.
[00:51:39] Like it's, it's, it's a high concept SCP entity.
[00:51:42] Um, where like it gets people like speculating, gets people talking and it's just kind of weird
[00:51:49] and fucked up.
[00:51:51] So yeah, that's that.
[00:51:53] And, and, and certainly it's really good for, for game fodder, uh, as we've sort of alluded
[00:51:58] to in this episode.
[00:51:59] So, um, but, uh, yeah, no, my, that's my recommendation.
[00:52:05] I will recommend it.
[00:52:06] Mikey, the sensory.
[00:52:10] Um, well, the.
[00:52:16] Uh, I feel like this one, it made me feel bad for Vince.
[00:52:23] Cause I mean, the false accusations against him and, uh, justice for that hashtag.
[00:52:33] Uh, so I'm going to recommend this to, to get the word out that, uh, cause it says right
[00:52:42] at the beginning that, uh, the SCP, uh, falsified reports.
[00:52:46] So, uh,
[00:52:49] It's great or good though.
[00:52:50] Was it though though?
[00:52:52] Was it?
[00:52:53] Okay.
[00:52:53] I know you guys are like pro Vince, so I get it.
[00:52:56] You guys are already indoctrinated.
[00:52:59] Hey, just because I have a summer home in Pagosa Springs does not mean I'm indoctrinated.
[00:53:04] It kind of actually does.
[00:53:06] Wait.
[00:53:07] Yeah.
[00:53:08] I want to reread this.
[00:53:12] Yeah.
[00:53:13] So yeah.
[00:53:14] A recommendation for me.
[00:53:16] All right.
[00:53:18] And gamer.
[00:53:20] Yeah.
[00:53:20] As we talked about, it's like a, a sort of fun, uh, thought experiment.
[00:53:24] Like we don't even know what Vince is by the end of it.
[00:53:28] Like, cause he's trees as far as we know, but like, what are the odds that we actually
[00:53:34] know the truth in this situation?
[00:53:35] Cause he could be God knows what.
[00:53:39] Um, I don't really understand the connection with him being trees specifically aside from
[00:53:44] the pun, which I approve of, um, if that's the case.
[00:53:47] Yeah.
[00:53:47] The tree also Aspenson, like, oh, I get it.
[00:53:51] That's, but again, that's connected to like these decisions were made because it's punny.
[00:53:56] Yeah.
[00:53:57] Yeah.
[00:53:57] No.
[00:53:57] True.
[00:53:58] Which are the best way to make decisions.
[00:53:59] I feel, but yeah, honestly, you should be on board with all that.
[00:54:04] Yeah.
[00:54:04] Yeah.
[00:54:04] For sure.
[00:54:07] But either way, it was a, it was a fun read.
[00:54:09] I kind of wish it went on more because it was a fun read though.
[00:54:12] Cause it just sort of stopped.
[00:54:14] Like they, like, I wish there was, um, something at the end where it's like, okay, we're aware
[00:54:20] that he's aware of us.
[00:54:22] So we had to like move our operations from inside his forest because they're aware of
[00:54:27] it now, you know?
[00:54:29] Yeah.
[00:54:30] Like, like Vince drops that he knows about some building that's in his forest, but there's
[00:54:36] nothing mentioned that they did anything with it.
[00:54:38] Meanwhile, this is a report from the SCP foundation.
[00:54:40] So I would feel like they would document all the things that they're doing.
[00:54:44] So like upon, um, upon, uh, the most recent, uh, um, interview we've, uh, moved location
[00:54:53] of outpost, uh, whatever the fuck out of directly out of, uh, the forest of SCP 1075.
[00:55:03] Yeah.
[00:55:03] Or since the, since the latest interview, we've had a high or we've had some high act or, uh,
[00:55:10] um, some, uh, what's the word?
[00:55:13] I'm trying to think of the word for like high traffic in the area or like, um, we've had
[00:55:20] a high percentage of activity, uh, of people trying to get to trying to break into S into
[00:55:27] SCP 1075 or, or, and, and, uh, mostly, uh, mostly, uh, journalists from the Pagosa Springs,
[00:55:36] uh, newspaper.
[00:55:38] Like using that as a cover, basically.
[00:55:40] Vince is like, yeah, that's a cover.
[00:55:41] Yeah.
[00:55:42] Vince is basically getting, trying to get the rally, the, uh, the actual like newspaper,
[00:55:46] um, of, of Pagosa Springs, like their, their journalists and employees to try and like
[00:55:51] find the truth, but yeah.
[00:55:54] It should be kind of cool or hell.
[00:55:56] It could go more malicious.
[00:55:57] Like, uh, since that interview, we, um, the, uh, the outpost in the vicinity of 1075 was
[00:56:05] overgrown by trees and we have not been able to access that.
[00:56:09] They have not been able to leave and we have not been able to touch base with them.
[00:56:13] Like they're basically being killed by him.
[00:56:16] It also, or even that, or again, like that the, uh, the, the staff of the SCP foundation
[00:56:21] that's at that site, are they staying there or are they leaving the city limits of Pagosa
[00:56:27] Springs?
[00:56:28] Cause like, if they're staying there long enough, are they getting infected?
[00:56:32] Yeah.
[00:56:33] Are they, are they getting targeted by the vector?
[00:56:35] And then like, um, like maybe some new protocols have to be in place, uh, in place where like,
[00:56:39] it's only like, basically you have to like drive in from like out of town, like from
[00:56:43] out of the city limits to, um, to that site every, every day, um, because of the risk of,
[00:56:50] of becoming infected with the vector.
[00:56:52] And then like sabotaging the foundation's work because like, like, you know, this Vince
[00:56:59] guy, like basically Vince is, is trying to like, trying to, uh, worm his way into like
[00:57:04] the foundation staff.
[00:57:05] I was like, Hey guy, come on.
[00:57:07] Like, I'm just a cool guy.
[00:57:09] Remember that time when we were, uh, when we were, uh, kids in, uh, kids in high school
[00:57:13] and, uh, and, uh, and you helped me, uh, stop the, uh, the local bullies from like,
[00:57:18] from defacing my, my good name.
[00:57:20] Time to do it now, but it's time to do it now, guy.
[00:57:23] What's this accent you've given him?
[00:57:25] I don't know.
[00:57:26] It's just like, it's, it's from, uh, what is it called?
[00:57:28] Um, it's some college animated show.
[00:57:31] Uh, uh, the Dougler.
[00:57:33] I think it's, I think it's the Dougler from, uh, from, um, Mike, you, you remember that
[00:57:37] show, right?
[00:57:38] Undergrads.
[00:57:39] The undergrads.
[00:57:40] Yes.
[00:57:40] Yeah.
[00:57:40] Yeah.
[00:57:41] Yeah.
[00:57:41] It's from the undergrads.
[00:57:43] It's like, Hey guy.
[00:57:44] Sure.
[00:57:45] Why not?
[00:57:46] Yeah.
[00:57:46] But, uh, yeah.
[00:57:48] Your final recommendation.
[00:57:52] Where we were.
[00:57:55] We're in Pagosa Springs.
[00:57:56] Clearly.
[00:57:57] Oh, clear.
[00:57:58] Um, so yeah, I'm gonna.
[00:58:01] Okay.
[00:58:02] I enjoyed the read, but I do feel like it needs a little bit more.
[00:58:05] So like, I kind of want to give it a partial now because like, I, I, when I was reading
[00:58:11] through it, I was enjoying, enjoying, enjoying it.
[00:58:12] And then there was no more words.
[00:58:15] That was sad.
[00:58:16] And then I got sad.
[00:58:18] Yeah.
[00:58:20] Would have had a popsicle stick.
[00:58:21] Yeah.
[00:58:22] Passed out.
[00:58:23] Popsicle stick in my mouth.
[00:58:25] Yeah.
[00:58:25] No, I know.
[00:58:25] That's a, that's a fair, fair result.
[00:58:28] Like, yeah.
[00:58:28] Like wanting more, isn't a bad thing in this case either.
[00:58:31] So not at all.
[00:58:32] I get it.
[00:58:33] It's like, same thing.
[00:58:33] Like I would have liked a little bit more about the, uh, the task force that was like,
[00:58:38] and like what, like I would have liked a little bit more in the documentation about
[00:58:40] like, like their activities and trying to like me and trying to, um, a little bit more
[00:58:46] detail in how they are, um, countering the, uh, the memetic vibes.
[00:58:52] Yeah.
[00:58:52] Because it's actually like, there's not much in here written down about like, um, foundation
[00:58:59] staff who are, uh, monitoring must not, uh, stay in the town for more than 72 hours or
[00:59:06] something like that because we've had reports of, uh, Vince sympathizers showing up.
[00:59:12] Yeah, exactly.
[00:59:13] Yeah.
[00:59:13] Like there's a lot that can be done with this that like, it's not done yet.
[00:59:17] In my opinion.
[00:59:19] Like, I mean, it sounds bad, but like this could branch out more.
[00:59:26] Welcome brother.
[00:59:28] Yeah.
[00:59:29] Yeah.
[00:59:29] That's where I stand on there.
[00:59:31] I'm going to stay planted right there.
[00:59:32] Ha ha.
[00:59:34] Um, all right.
[00:59:35] Well then I guess that's, uh, that's it for this week's episode.
[00:59:37] So, uh, basically two recommendations, full recommendations and then one partial.
[00:59:43] We liked it, but I'm a little bit of a Disney princess this time.
[00:59:46] Yeah.
[00:59:47] You are the Disney princess this time.
[00:59:50] How does it feel gamer?
[00:59:53] Nice.
[00:59:53] Actually.
[00:59:54] Oh God.
[00:59:54] Does that mean you're Casilda, the princess in yellow?
[00:59:58] Yeah.
[00:59:58] Yeah.
[00:59:59] Sure.
[00:59:59] Why not?
[01:00:00] Casilda was like, I think one of the, the queen or princess of the king in yellow in the,
[01:00:05] the, in the, in the play.
[01:00:08] I thought that was a different name.
[01:00:10] Uh, there's two at technically there's like Casilda and then I think there's like Camilla.
[01:00:14] Yeah.
[01:00:15] I think that was the one I was thinking of.
[01:00:17] But, uh, anyway.
[01:00:19] Yeah.
[01:00:19] So, uh, also actually kind of, kind of actually like kind of appropriate because like the king
[01:00:25] in yellow is also a memetic, um, artifact or anomaly.
[01:00:29] So, but yeah.
[01:00:31] Um, so yeah, uh, that, that'll do it for this week's episode.
[01:00:35] So if you like what you heard or if you didn't leave us on the comment section below where this
[01:00:39] gets posted, we're all on Twitter.
[01:00:41] Kinda.
[01:00:42] Um, really until it, until it completely drowns in the sea of flames.
[01:00:46] It's not Twitter.
[01:00:47] It's X.
[01:00:48] I, I refuse.
[01:00:49] Are you going to die on that hill?
[01:00:51] Yep.
[01:00:51] I will die on that hill.
[01:00:52] Good.
[01:00:53] Um, Mikey is at the E stands for evil.
[01:00:56] The gamer in yellow is at the gamer in yellow, but not that W at the end because name is very
[01:00:59] long.
[01:00:59] It is.
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