ADR - Episode 543: The Last Day of October - The Unqiet Past and Present

[00:00:05] Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis. I'm Review Cultist.

[00:00:23] I'm Mikey, the East Ends for Evil.

[00:00:25] And I'm the Gamer in Yellow.

[00:00:27] And we're here to discuss those internet stories, most creepy and most pasta, and be critically silly doing it.

[00:00:33] And tonight we have The Last Day of October, The Unquiet Past and Present.

[00:00:39] So, this is yet again another Last Day of October story by M.M. Pratt, continuing her series of stories revolving around Kes and her shenanigans in various locations around the Yggdrasil Wood area.

[00:00:56] This is by M.M. Pratt, 99. You can check it out at creepposs.wiki, along with all the other stories that she has written.

[00:01:04] And, yeah, before we get too far ahead, let's give our initial recommendations.

[00:01:09] Once again, I'm going to partially recommend this story.

[00:01:14] I'm going to not recommend this story.

[00:01:18] Okay.

[00:01:19] I am unfortunately also going to not recommend this one.

[00:01:22] Fair.

[00:01:23] Well, let's find out why we gave those recommendations the way we did and see if those recommendations change over the course of our discussion here.

[00:01:35] Starting with yet another very abbreviated rundown.

[00:01:41] We'll get a second one, too.

[00:01:43] Yeah, I'm sure.

[00:01:45] I will run out of the room this time.

[00:01:52] I will run out of the room.

[00:01:53] So, Kes is back in Heron Manor near the Yggdrasil Wood, where she now lives.

[00:01:57] It's here that she laments the strangeness of the woods and recalls the dangers within, and the rules set down by the locals.

[00:02:05] one such local she invited into her home a troll named madam mosley tells her some stories

[00:02:14] regarding those rules to be followed and the dangers around the woods mostly mosley mostly

[00:02:22] mosley says to stay on the path no matter what and do not go near the old chanterelle estate

[00:02:31] which is deep in the woods and surrounded by a barrier of some mystical kind and its gates have

[00:02:38] stone cairns near them to mark it off to travelers this elven family was just the worst to the people

[00:02:46] of this land but after the great court wars several hundred years ago the cruel noble family

[00:02:52] isolated and died off but they didn't seem to stay dead due in part to a curse people tended to go

[00:03:00] missing if they ventured into the estate or surrounding woods and close to halloween the

[00:03:06] horrid corpse specters of the family would walk into the local towns at night to grab people and

[00:03:11] so it was best just to lock your doors and not open them for anyone past midnight till morning

[00:03:18] mosley even had a tale about her siblings almost making that mistake when they were kids kes who

[00:03:26] had accidentally wandered around the perimeter of the estate once while on her walks through the woods

[00:03:31] listened intently and eventually jotted these stories and rules down in one of her journals though

[00:03:37] she seemed somewhat skeptical of these occurrences supernatural nature chalking it up to local superstition

[00:03:45] she continued to live in her cozy cottagecore setting and eventually goes down to the green rolling

[00:03:53] beaches to grab some driftwood for fire and kindling unaware of a portal to a liminal space just beneath

[00:04:01] the surface it's here among many hallways and doors to other places that an abominable entity known as the

[00:04:08] hell lion stalks out of some dark recess and eventually passes through the portal leading up to those very same

[00:04:17] beaches where it then proceeds to toss a shiny object down and wait meanwhile kes while gathering wood finds this

[00:04:28] object some kind of disc-like jewel eye and takes it with her as she heads home on the way home she does

[00:04:37] feel some kind of presence stalking her but never sees them regardless getting home she locks the doors and

[00:04:43] proceeds to examine the jewel which now radiates some kind of light but eventually sets it down for later

[00:04:50] the gem sits there waiting and biding its time for the moment to strike

[00:04:57] Finn

[00:04:58] so yeah that was uh the unquiet past and present uh continuing with the stories of the last day of october

[00:05:08] and uh i suppose we'll move on to everyone tolerates the grammar inquisitions at this point

[00:05:17] um i've got a couple uh i'm gonna start with uh this one in chapter one no chaos or crazy things were

[00:05:24] going to happen to me out here i was so very wrong year of the silver tiger harren manor swanwick coast

[00:05:32] 4th of september 2012 kes was curled up beneath their embroidered down covers and it keeps going so

[00:05:41] this seems like it really needs a horizontal dividing line between the because as far as i could do as far

[00:05:50] as i could deduce here um this seems to signify signing off from the journal entry which is in first

[00:05:57] person of kes and then goes into a third person pov right afterward describing kes's day

[00:06:05] it was a little confusing because like i started reading through it then i just like i didn't even

[00:06:10] realize right away that it swapped but like a few like a paragraph or so down i'm like wait

[00:06:15] the it shifted why is she talking about herself like oh yeah yeah um it's sort of something i think

[00:06:24] i'll bring up later about the story where like i i feel like the formatting should have stuck to one

[00:06:29] or the other not like not switched between like suddenly switch between this one and between like

[00:06:35] a first person pov and a third person pov but i'll get into that a little bit further down the road

[00:06:41] i feel like that's more of an actual thought thing than a grammar thing so i'll move on to the next thing

[00:06:46] i have here she wondered why of all places in the forest did the skunk had to let loose a barrage near

[00:06:52] the front door so i feel like it should be um of all places in the forest did the skunk have to

[00:06:59] let loose a barrage yes then my next one here the rule informer happened to be a be a troll woman

[00:07:10] who went by the name of madam mosley so in this case i feel like one of the uh the bas or bia

[00:07:19] um needs to be removed because it kind of just doubles down on ba

[00:07:23] and then my next one here so this is dialogue but it happens more than once

[00:07:31] okay uh and i think outside of dialogue don't ever step between the chained cranes

[00:07:39] you knows that large metal gate at the center of them stones but i actually don't have a problem

[00:07:47] with the accent stuff but the problem here is the chained cranes by the metal gate there um this is

[00:07:53] uh i i believe this is another instance where it's supposed to mean cairns uh as in like the as in the

[00:08:00] um piled up structure of stones that are usually like left as like uh like markers like landmarks and

[00:08:07] um what's particularly odd about this phrasing is that later the character clearly refers to them

[00:08:14] as cairns like with the proper spelling but then there's like a second and i think even a third

[00:08:20] instance of this chained uh chained cranes um like used even later in the story so is it crane or cairn

[00:08:33] in this situation is this some sort of like dialect use that i'm just not aware of like as far as i know

[00:08:38] i couldn't find online like is crane is crane another type of word for cairn it might literally just be

[00:08:48] like it freaking like um i wonder also maybe it might be like spelling like like when when like

[00:08:54] typing in like chained uh cairns um yeah spell check automatically switches it to cranes because

[00:09:01] oh clearly they didn't mean cairn that would be silly yeah it could be something that's stupid

[00:09:06] yeah and it's also very much a typo knees thing so yeah even if you think you have the right word

[00:09:14] you read it and you read care will be the wrong word yeah yeah yeah optical illusions in our mind in

[00:09:23] our brain and when we're like looking over words and stuff yeah yeah we're wrong and that's the

[00:09:29] right spelling curse that human pattern recognition evolutionary trait

[00:09:37] um yeah or we're wrong and it's supposed to be crane but i'm pretty sure like it since it

[00:09:42] because immediately afterward it calls it calls it cairns and stuff like that so i'm pretty sure

[00:09:46] it's supposed to be crane uh it's supposed to be cairns not cranes but i'll i'll move on to the next

[00:09:52] thing i have here uh but the shoterelles regarded them as nothing more than servile beasts lower than

[00:10:02] even a troll or human slave sorry i know this is dialogue but this is really more just a

[00:10:11] inconsistency typo here because the family name is uh is referred to multiple times as chanterelle

[00:10:16] uh c-h-a-n-t-e-r-e-l-l-e and in this instance the person and in other bouts of her own dialogue

[00:10:27] she calls them the chanterelles not the shoterelles which is the way it's spelled spelled in this

[00:10:32] instance is c-h-a-u-t-e-r-e-l-l-e-s so maybe it's again it it's probably just another typo where

[00:10:42] it was like the u is supposed to be an n but i just had to bring that up because it stood out

[00:10:48] but i'll move on to the next next thing here never ever answer the blooming door at this here hour

[00:10:56] she told him sternly especially when them mad gentry daters is walking about

[00:11:05] so it's a little hard to for me to like pronounce what happened here but i think actually like so

[00:11:11] this is an instance where like so uh never ever answer the blooming door at this here hour uh has

[00:11:18] has quotations around it because it's dialogue and then it says she told him sternly especially

[00:11:24] she told him sternly um and then it doesn't have any quotations around the next bit which does sound

[00:11:30] like it's supposed to be uh a more dialogue especially when them mad gentry debtors is walking about

[00:11:39] yeah because it's also in a an accent as well yeah exactly so i it really felt like that should

[00:11:45] have also been quotations as well because it's another uh um it's another bit of dialogue from this

[00:11:50] character so and then my my last one here uh for chapter one she thought about what lurked beyond

[00:11:59] those ancient cranes and gate and that imaging the old house with its high turret walls looming shadowy

[00:12:07] and stark amidst a wilderness of briars and wind twisted trees so again it's another case of like

[00:12:14] cranes versus cairns but also more importantly for me and this one is uh imaging should actually be

[00:12:20] imagining the old house with its high turret walls because she's not imaging it she's not like

[00:12:25] taking a device out there and like like taking images of the of the of the of the old house and

[00:12:30] such you don't know that i'm pretty sure i'm pretty i think i'm safe to assume that she she meant

[00:12:37] imagining yeah probably but yeah um but that's the end of my my grammar acquisition for chapter one

[00:12:45] so mikey the east dance for evil i'm good okay uh gamer uh chapter one in this dream a steady

[00:12:55] stream of skunks was pursuing her i feel like it should be we're pursuing her yeah and then the

[00:13:01] next one is uh when uh madam mosley is mentioning like said like is doing the promise and listing the

[00:13:13] things that she's wanting guests to promise he says promise me you'll heed to them the most important

[00:13:19] rules and then there's colon and then the first rule uh and then it jumps down a line does a second

[00:13:26] rule jumps down a line does a third rule personally i'd rather have all three rules on separate lines to

[00:13:33] like punctuate them or have them all squish together in one paragraph but like it's doing both right now

[00:13:40] because like one of them is squished together with the promise me you'll heed them and then the rest of

[00:13:46] them are by themselves so it's kind of weird how they're separated like that yeah because i think

[00:13:50] i feel like the rules should be like outlined like be be isolated them from themselves like so that

[00:13:54] they know like we we know them rules especially right after the colon too like it would look nice too

[00:14:00] yep and then uh this last one uh kess says i sure in hell won't be going into those woods anymore

[00:14:10] personally i'd go with sure as hell like i don't know if i'm in a nit picnic here but like

[00:14:18] as feels new uh more natural to me and googling seems to agree with me like that is generally how

[00:14:24] you would say that like i sure as hell won't do that what did she say like how does she say it i

[00:14:29] i sure in hell won't be going into those woods anymore i mean both of them work but like i see what

[00:14:35] you mean like i'm used to see i'm used to hearing that as like i sure as hell not i sure in hell

[00:14:41] because i i can under i can see i sure in hell won't be doing it because it's like that'll be a

[00:14:45] that'll be a fine day in hell when i do this thing or it'll be a cold day in hell when i do this

[00:14:50] yeah for sure yeah and this might just be a dialect thing as well yeah i think regional dialect

[00:14:55] yeah but i i i can kind of see both sides working so and that's it for chapter one all right uh

[00:15:03] all right on to chapter two then um so i got this one here yet beneath its gnarled surface it was an

[00:15:13] entirely different world bustling with rush hour activity reminiscent of new york's grand central

[00:15:19] station every everywhere doors were opening up and various creatures were hurrying to and fro

[00:15:24] to various destinations those that want those that walked in pairs are alone hurried more they had

[00:15:33] every reason to pick up the pace they knew that horrible things could happen should they venture

[00:15:39] into the deeper vaults of the house so i feel like it should make maybe give this this this story i feel

[00:15:49] like in this instance around this area of the story when we get introduced to this new liminal kind of

[00:15:53] like place i feel like um the that place should have like a proper like kind of moniker like

[00:16:00] the house with a capital t on the the um since it seems like that is that term like the house is used

[00:16:08] a lot but it's like always just like a lowercase t uh like the house um i i don't know like this it's

[00:16:14] just kind of like i felt like this location needed a name and they need to be given a name in the story

[00:16:19] like proper like uh i even like had a thing here um like a suggestion for a sentence to go here it's

[00:16:26] like um those that traveled its doors and hallways knew it as the house in quotes or something like

[00:16:33] that like something along those lines um just because like it keeps referencing the house and

[00:16:39] stuff like that and it's just like i feel like this place needs it like a needs to be named properly in

[00:16:43] the story rather than just like constantly describing it as the house i'm supposed to know the name of it

[00:16:49] yet because like that's something that's going to be brought up later i don't know maybe but like

[00:16:54] this is also like a third person like perspective here like so it's like not kes is not even in the

[00:16:58] know about this so yeah um but yeah that's just like something i i would probably do if like i was

[00:17:06] writing the story was like i'd probably like name this place so that like the reader knows like the

[00:17:11] significance that's a significant strange dimensional like place and not just a simple not just a uh

[00:17:17] a remarkable house that's uh that's basically all i have for for chapter two really is the house thing

[00:17:25] the house thing um as i would also kind of remind me of like like because that place kind of reminds me

[00:17:31] of like the old house or the oldest house from control but um that's neither here nor there so

[00:17:39] um mikey do you have anything for chapter two and no gamer do you have anything for chapter two

[00:17:47] okay i don't recall the context to this not that it really matters but says weathered gray by the

[00:17:53] elements it look innocent enough i feel like it should be looked innocent enough oh uh yeah this

[00:18:00] yeah weather weathered gray by the elements it looked yeah it looked innocent enough yeah

[00:18:08] that's all i got for chapter two yeah yeah because that's in reference to the uh the redwood stump

[00:18:13] um yeah that actually holds the portal to this this liminal space so um all right on to chapter three

[00:18:22] then uh i only got one for this one um it seemed much radiant than when she first found it so i feel

[00:18:31] like it should actually either be it seemed more radiant or it seemed much more radiant like

[00:18:37] more needs to be in there yeah it also needs to be then instead of that yes yeah because right now

[00:18:45] it's then um like as in like and then rather than van yeah uh mikey do you have anything for chapter

[00:18:59] three uh nope you got it okay gamer do you have anything for chapter three uh no you got it okay

[00:19:07] all right mikey late on me i know it's coming yeah the conjunction junction here comes here comes the

[00:19:15] conjunction junction train

[00:19:18] here comes the pain train and next stop conjunction junction

[00:19:22] chapter one it was a low and rounded house with white plaster walls and a roof thatched reed

[00:19:33] plopped on a low hill above a marshy stream it was a humorous house with a certain froggy char

[00:19:46] it was a happy house its quilted layers were supposed to offer the occupant a comfy warm space

[00:19:59] to creep under and shut out the outside world it was only a week ago when kes for was first made aware

[00:20:10] of the rules it was too bad since those hot springs were a good place to relax and to think without the outside world intruding in

[00:20:25] it sounds more like an alias to me it's mush safer and more convenient but the shoterelles regarded them as nothing more than servile beasts lower than even a troll o human slave

[00:20:59] it's widely believed that anyone who dasts to venture past the carns to stand in front of dead gate will be stricken with bad luck

[00:21:18] illness and whatever death under mysterious circumstances

[00:21:27] it's a vicious curse spawned by long ago cruelty and heartlessness and i hope it doesn't come true for your sake

[00:21:46] but yo didn't step between them chain stones

[00:21:53] but what if it's someone in serious trouble

[00:21:58] but believe me madam mosley added before kes could skeptically ask

[00:22:07] the chanterelles is real and is no longer of the livin

[00:22:16] and yet they walk

[00:22:19] it was a cold october night

[00:22:24] and halloween was two weeks away

[00:22:27] it was mum rushing in with a fire poker

[00:22:33] and pa not far behind with a rowan oak club

[00:22:39] it was the chanterelle died

[00:22:44] my sister told me when i was a little older

[00:22:50] and they're especially dangerous during the autumn and winter months

[00:22:59] it happened to be her third journal

[00:23:02] newly purchased shortly after she arrived

[00:23:05] in waldechia

[00:23:07] or else

[00:23:11] they all became

[00:23:13] the unfortunate meal

[00:23:15] of a local predator

[00:23:17] a rock tiger

[00:23:18] or an

[00:23:20] emphitear

[00:23:23] emphitear

[00:23:25] yeah

[00:23:26] yep

[00:23:27] it all had to do

[00:23:30] with

[00:23:30] sharing a similar wavelength

[00:23:33] as well as a common ancestor

[00:23:37] but

[00:23:38] that still doesn't mean

[00:23:41] they got plenty of old magic left

[00:23:43] to put up some

[00:23:45] arcanely powerful barricade against evil

[00:23:50] it should have gone out

[00:23:53] by now

[00:23:54] had she been adding more wood

[00:23:57] in her sleep

[00:23:58] it was definitely a face

[00:24:02] a wedge-shaped face

[00:24:05] with large glowing eyes

[00:24:07] and long

[00:24:09] writhing hair

[00:24:13] chapter two

[00:24:15] it's lots better

[00:24:18] than a measly scrap

[00:24:20] it began

[00:24:22] to draw him upward

[00:24:24] it's gone

[00:24:26] the hog goblin said

[00:24:28] highly relieved

[00:24:29] it soon vanished around the corner

[00:24:34] chapter three

[00:24:35] it might have a smidge of magic

[00:24:40] maybe even old magic

[00:24:42] it might even bring her good luck

[00:24:45] it seemed much radiant

[00:24:48] then when she first found it

[00:24:52] finn

[00:24:55] wow

[00:24:56] I have some notes

[00:24:59] so at the beginning

[00:25:01] house is quilted

[00:25:04] because it was like

[00:25:05] it was describing the house

[00:25:06] like it's like

[00:25:07] it was a happy house

[00:25:08] then it was like

[00:25:09] it kept describing the house

[00:25:09] and then it cut to

[00:25:10] immediately to that

[00:25:11] that line from the

[00:25:12] about the blanket

[00:25:13] and it was like

[00:25:15] it was quilted

[00:25:16] it's quilted layers

[00:25:18] covered in you

[00:25:18] for the outside world

[00:25:21] so yeah

[00:25:22] that was the first thing

[00:25:23] it was just like

[00:25:24] it's like

[00:25:24] wait the house is quilted

[00:25:25] I mean

[00:25:26] it would make sense

[00:25:27] for like

[00:25:27] the way it was described

[00:25:28] a little bit

[00:25:29] but

[00:25:31] also

[00:25:32] I love your accent reading

[00:25:34] like

[00:25:35] like through it

[00:25:36] I was listening to you

[00:25:37] feeling out the sounds

[00:25:38] was kind of magical

[00:25:41] yeah

[00:25:42] I was trying to like

[00:25:43] weave together

[00:25:44] what you were

[00:25:44] what you were saying

[00:25:45] but like

[00:25:46] I was so thrown

[00:25:47] by the accent

[00:25:49] and like

[00:25:50] this is not like

[00:25:51] me like poking fun

[00:25:52] at you at all

[00:25:52] because like

[00:25:53] I get it

[00:25:54] yeah

[00:25:55] and like

[00:25:55] I got

[00:25:55] I got some notes

[00:25:56] about that

[00:25:56] in my actual thoughts

[00:25:58] but like

[00:25:58] yeah

[00:25:58] like

[00:25:59] it was just

[00:25:59] funny

[00:25:59] it was just

[00:26:00] it was just

[00:26:00] fun

[00:26:00] like

[00:26:01] hearing you

[00:26:02] like

[00:26:02] trying to sound

[00:26:02] out some

[00:26:03] of the words

[00:26:03] like some

[00:26:16] happened

[00:26:16] like

[00:26:17] wasn't

[00:26:17] like

[00:26:17] in other

[00:26:17] stories

[00:26:18] or anything

[00:26:18] it was

[00:26:18] like

[00:26:18] all

[00:26:19] happening

[00:26:19] in the same

[00:26:19] so

[00:26:19] like

[00:26:20] their mom

[00:26:21] and dad

[00:26:21] showed up

[00:26:22] with like

[00:26:22] poker

[00:26:23] and bat

[00:26:24] in hand

[00:26:25] and then

[00:26:26] like

[00:26:26] there's a hobgoblin

[00:26:28] like

[00:26:28] cowering

[00:26:28] from something

[00:26:29] from something

[00:26:30] that's like

[00:26:30] stalking through

[00:26:31] the halls

[00:26:32] of the same

[00:26:32] house

[00:26:34] yeah

[00:26:35] yeah

[00:26:35] yeah

[00:26:36] because there's

[00:26:36] like no

[00:26:36] transitions

[00:26:37] or anything

[00:26:37] like that

[00:26:38] yeah

[00:26:38] exactly

[00:26:40] but yeah

[00:26:42] for those

[00:26:42] unaware

[00:26:43] Mikey

[00:26:43] grabs all the

[00:26:44] sentences

[00:26:44] throughout a story

[00:26:45] that start

[00:26:45] with the words

[00:26:46] that they

[00:26:46] probably

[00:26:46] shouldn't

[00:26:46] like

[00:26:47] its

[00:26:47] ends

[00:26:47] or

[00:26:47] but

[00:26:47] because

[00:26:48] there's

[00:26:48] always

[00:26:48] better

[00:26:48] words

[00:26:48] to

[00:26:49] use

[00:26:50] that

[00:26:50] being

[00:26:50] said

[00:26:51] 90%

[00:26:52] of what

[00:26:52] you grabbed

[00:26:53] was

[00:26:53] dialogue

[00:26:54] yeah

[00:26:54] it's like

[00:26:55] yeah

[00:26:55] yeah

[00:26:56] you gotta

[00:26:57] give it

[00:26:57] yeah

[00:26:58] you gotta

[00:26:59] do it

[00:26:59] for the

[00:26:59] bit

[00:27:00] but

[00:27:00] yeah

[00:27:00] yeah

[00:27:01] well

[00:27:02] especially

[00:27:02] since

[00:27:03] like

[00:27:03] most

[00:27:03] of

[00:27:03] like

[00:27:04] like

[00:27:05] a good

[00:27:05] portion

[00:27:05] of

[00:27:06] chapter

[00:27:06] one

[00:27:06] is

[00:27:06] all

[00:27:07] dialogue

[00:27:08] yes

[00:27:09] it's

[00:27:09] just

[00:27:09] like

[00:27:09] oral

[00:27:10] storytelling

[00:27:11] from one

[00:27:12] character

[00:27:12] to another

[00:27:12] so

[00:27:14] yeah

[00:27:16] all right

[00:27:17] I guess

[00:27:18] with that

[00:27:18] then

[00:27:18] we'll move

[00:27:19] on to

[00:27:20] actual

[00:27:20] thoughts

[00:27:22] so

[00:27:22] we're gonna

[00:27:23] start

[00:27:23] uh

[00:27:24] before we

[00:27:24] get into

[00:27:24] any of

[00:27:25] the

[00:27:25] chapters

[00:27:25] let's

[00:27:26] start

[00:27:26] with

[00:27:26] the

[00:27:26] images

[00:27:26] they're

[00:27:27] providing

[00:27:27] this

[00:27:27] story

[00:27:28] um

[00:27:29] I'm

[00:27:30] kind of

[00:27:30] surprised

[00:27:30] this one

[00:27:31] is all

[00:27:32] photos

[00:27:32] for the

[00:27:32] most part

[00:27:34] and not

[00:27:34] like

[00:27:35] straight up

[00:27:35] like

[00:27:35] drawings

[00:27:36] by uh

[00:27:37] by mm

[00:27:37] pratt

[00:27:37] this time

[00:27:38] she did

[00:27:38] 27

[00:27:39] previously

[00:27:40] yeah

[00:27:42] um

[00:27:43] that said

[00:27:44] also

[00:27:44] um

[00:27:48] so

[00:27:51] that

[00:27:51] they were

[00:27:52] all

[00:27:52] like

[00:27:52] pencil

[00:27:52] stuff

[00:27:53] and all

[00:27:53] that

[00:27:53] in

[00:27:54] this

[00:27:54] one

[00:27:54] so

[00:27:55] like

[00:27:55] some

[00:27:55] of

[00:27:56] that

[00:27:56] stuff

[00:27:56] uh

[00:27:56] so

[00:27:57] this

[00:27:57] one

[00:27:57] actually

[00:27:57] has

[00:27:58] an

[00:27:58] instance

[00:27:58] in

[00:27:58] the

[00:27:59] story

[00:27:59] where

[00:27:59] like

[00:27:59] she

[00:27:59] describes

[00:28:00] like

[00:28:00] um

[00:28:00] that

[00:28:01] like

[00:28:01] one

[00:28:01] of

[00:28:02] her

[00:28:02] first

[00:28:02] journals

[00:28:03] uh

[00:28:04] is

[00:28:04] being

[00:28:06] illustrated

[00:28:06] by

[00:28:07] her

[00:28:07] by her

[00:28:07] uh

[00:28:08] by her

[00:28:08] like

[00:28:08] brother

[00:28:09] so

[00:28:10] like

[00:28:10] is

[00:28:11] that

[00:28:11] like

[00:28:11] is

[00:28:11] that

[00:28:12] something

[00:28:12] that's

[00:28:12] like

[00:28:12] is

[00:28:13] that

[00:28:13] something

[00:28:13] that's

[00:28:13] like

[00:28:13] we're

[00:28:14] supposed

[00:28:14] to

[00:28:15] understand

[00:28:15] from

[00:28:16] like

[00:28:16] uh

[00:28:16] kind

[00:28:17] of

[00:28:17] like

[00:28:17] a

[00:28:17] meta

[00:28:17] thing

[00:28:17] is

[00:28:18] like

[00:28:18] those

[00:28:18] images

[00:28:19] um

[00:28:19] on top

[00:28:20] of

[00:28:20] being

[00:28:20] done

[00:28:20] by

[00:28:20] m

[00:28:21] and

[00:28:21] pratt

[00:28:21] in

[00:28:44] to

[00:28:44] see

[00:28:45] in

[00:28:45] cottages

[00:28:45] in

[00:28:46] in

[00:28:46] the

[00:28:46] uk

[00:28:46] um

[00:28:47] with

[00:28:47] the

[00:28:47] uh

[00:28:47] the

[00:28:48] uh

[00:28:48] the

[00:28:49] thatched

[00:28:50] the

[00:28:50] thatched

[00:28:50] roof

[00:28:50] cottages

[00:28:51] like

[00:28:52] that's

[00:28:52] a

[00:28:52] thatched

[00:28:53] roof

[00:28:53] cottage

[00:28:53] um

[00:28:54] right

[00:28:54] there

[00:28:54] i do

[00:28:55] have

[00:29:16] but

[00:29:16] like

[00:29:16] i get

[00:29:17] it

[00:29:17] because

[00:29:17] an

[00:29:18] image

[00:29:18] was

[00:29:19] grabbed

[00:29:19] and

[00:29:19] they

[00:29:19] made

[00:29:19] a

[00:29:19] story

[00:29:20] so

[00:29:21] it's

[00:29:21] not

[00:29:21] an

[00:29:21] image

[00:29:22] made

[00:29:22] for

[00:29:22] the

[00:29:22] story

[00:29:22] so

[00:29:23] i

[00:29:23] get

[00:29:23] it

[00:29:23] yeah

[00:29:24] i also

[00:29:24] feel

[00:29:25] like

[00:29:25] the

[00:29:25] images

[00:29:25] for

[00:29:25] the

[00:29:25] most

[00:29:26] part

[00:29:26] are

[00:29:26] again

[00:29:27] they're

[00:29:27] not

[00:29:27] intrusive

[00:29:27] for

[00:29:28] the

[00:29:28] story

[00:29:28] they

[00:29:28] actually

[00:29:29] kind

[00:29:44] forest

[00:29:45] um

[00:29:45] and

[00:29:46] like

[00:29:46] this

[00:29:46] strange

[00:29:47] like

[00:29:47] uh

[00:29:47] object

[00:29:48] in

[00:29:48] the

[00:29:48] uh

[00:29:49] in

[00:29:49] the

[00:29:49] woods

[00:29:50] uh

[00:29:50] this

[00:29:50] like

[00:29:51] this

[00:29:51] uh

[00:29:51] this

[00:29:52] wood

[00:29:52] carving

[00:29:53] um

[00:29:54] the

[00:29:55] chain

[00:29:55] and

[00:29:55] like

[00:29:55] the

[00:29:56] gate

[00:29:56] we

[00:30:14] we

[00:30:15] get

[00:30:15] an

[00:30:15] image

[00:30:15] of

[00:30:16] a

[00:30:16] of

[00:30:16] an

[00:30:16] estate

[00:30:17] like

[00:30:17] a

[00:30:17] mannerly

[00:30:18] estate

[00:30:18] that's

[00:30:18] in

[00:30:18] in

[00:30:19] ruin

[00:30:19] and

[00:30:19] in

[00:30:19] the

[00:30:19] woods

[00:30:20] uh

[00:30:21] from

[00:30:21] from

[00:30:21] above

[00:30:21] which

[00:30:22] describes

[00:30:23] uh

[00:30:23] which

[00:30:23] which

[00:30:23] really

[00:30:24] complements

[00:30:24] the

[00:30:24] the

[00:30:25] line

[00:30:25] of

[00:30:26] um

[00:30:26] when

[00:30:27] the

[00:30:27] ravens

[00:30:27] or the

[00:30:28] crows

[00:30:28] would

[00:30:28] like

[00:30:28] fly

[00:30:28] over

[00:30:29] the

[00:30:29] house

[00:30:29] to

[00:30:29] check

[00:30:30] to

[00:30:30] make

[00:30:30] sure

[00:30:30] like

[00:30:30] it's

[00:30:30] that

[00:30:30] that's

[00:30:31] still

[00:30:31] there

[00:30:32] kind

[00:30:32] of

[00:30:32] thing

[00:30:33] um

[00:30:34] yeah

[00:30:34] like

[00:30:34] all

[00:30:34] the

[00:30:35] images

[00:30:35] even

[00:30:36] like

[00:30:36] down

[00:30:36] the

[00:30:36] farther

[00:30:37] down

[00:30:37] like

[00:30:37] with

[00:30:37] all

[00:30:37] uh

[00:30:38] like

[00:30:38] the

[00:30:39] showing

[00:30:39] like

[00:30:40] what

[00:30:40] the

[00:30:40] creature

[00:30:40] kind

[00:30:41] of

[00:30:41] looked

[00:30:41] like

[00:30:41] that

[00:30:41] we're

[00:30:41] stalking

[00:30:42] through

[00:30:42] the

[00:30:42] the

[00:30:42] towns

[00:30:43] and

[00:30:43] like

[00:30:43] the

[00:30:43] town

[00:30:43] itself

[00:30:44] and

[00:30:44] the

[00:30:45] the

[00:30:45] kids

[00:30:46] uh

[00:30:46] it

[00:30:47] all

[00:30:47] it

[00:30:47] all

[00:30:47] works

[00:31:06] saw

[00:31:06] the

[00:31:07] image

[00:31:07] so

[00:31:07] and

[00:31:08] then

[00:31:08] the

[00:31:08] last

[00:31:09] photo

[00:31:09] being

[00:31:09] of

[00:31:10] the

[00:31:10] uh

[00:31:10] the

[00:31:10] the

[00:31:11] disc

[00:31:11] that

[00:31:12] we

[00:31:12] we

[00:31:12] saw

[00:31:12] the

[00:31:12] eye

[00:31:13] like

[00:31:13] disc

[00:31:13] so

[00:31:14] I

[00:31:15] think

[00:31:15] that

[00:31:15] also

[00:31:15] really

[00:31:15] helped

[00:31:16] a lot

[00:31:17] yeah

[00:31:17] I

[00:31:18] wasn't

[00:31:18] imagining

[00:31:18] it

[00:31:19] to be

[00:31:19] like

[00:31:19] fully

[00:31:20] circular

[00:31:20] like

[00:31:20] that

[00:31:20] I

[00:31:21] thought

[00:31:21] it

[00:31:21] would

[00:31:21] be

[00:31:21] eye

[00:31:21] shaped

[00:31:22] yeah

[00:31:23] but

[00:31:23] she

[00:31:23] does

[00:31:23] describe

[00:31:24] it

[00:31:24] as

[00:31:24] like

[00:31:24] it

[00:31:24] wasn't

[00:31:24] like

[00:31:25] an

[00:31:25] eyeball

[00:31:25] it

[00:31:25] was

[00:31:25] like

[00:31:26] a

[00:31:26] disc

[00:31:26] with

[00:31:26] an

[00:31:26] eye

[00:31:27] to

[00:31:27] it

[00:31:28] so

[00:31:28] yeah

[00:31:30] it

[00:31:30] worked

[00:31:31] out

[00:31:31] really

[00:31:31] well

[00:31:31] I

[00:31:31] think

[00:31:31] the

[00:31:32] all

[00:31:32] the

[00:31:32] photos

[00:31:32] and

[00:31:33] images

[00:31:34] and

[00:31:34] I'm

[00:31:34] checking

[00:31:35] here

[00:31:35] it

[00:31:35] looks

[00:31:35] like

[00:31:35] there's

[00:31:36] no

[00:31:36] art

[00:31:36] gallery

[00:31:37] underneath

[00:31:37] so

[00:31:38] I

[00:31:57] a

[00:32:01] quote

[00:32:02] I have

[00:32:18] they

[00:32:19] were

[00:32:20] gamboling

[00:32:20] merrily

[00:32:21] along

[00:32:22] while

[00:32:22] Kes

[00:32:22] shrieked

[00:32:23] and clawed

[00:32:24] her way

[00:32:24] desperately

[00:32:25] through

[00:32:25] air

[00:32:26] as

[00:32:26] thick

[00:32:26] as

[00:32:27] molasses

[00:32:28] gamboling

[00:32:29] verb

[00:32:30] run

[00:32:31] or jump

[00:32:32] about

[00:32:32] playfully

[00:32:33] nice

[00:32:34] the next

[00:32:35] one

[00:32:37] she

[00:32:37] hated

[00:32:38] the

[00:32:38] town

[00:32:38] pool

[00:32:39] with

[00:32:39] its

[00:32:40] harsh

[00:32:40] chlorine

[00:32:40] smell

[00:32:41] the

[00:32:41] crowded

[00:32:42] locker

[00:32:42] room

[00:32:42] with

[00:32:43] so

[00:32:43] little

[00:32:43] privacy

[00:32:44] the

[00:32:44] scrum

[00:32:45] of

[00:32:45] noisy

[00:32:46] kids

[00:32:46] running

[00:32:47] about

[00:32:47] some

[00:32:48] with

[00:32:49] very

[00:32:49] little

[00:32:50] bladder

[00:32:50] control

[00:32:51] and

[00:32:51] the

[00:32:51] noisy

[00:32:51] people

[00:32:52] who

[00:32:52] constantly

[00:32:53] badgered

[00:32:53] her

[00:32:53] with

[00:32:55] probing

[00:32:55] questions

[00:32:56] scrum

[00:32:57] which is

[00:32:58] slang

[00:32:58] a place

[00:33:00] or situation

[00:33:00] of confusion

[00:33:01] and racket

[00:33:02] a hubbub

[00:33:03] if you

[00:33:03] will

[00:33:03] i've

[00:33:04] learned

[00:33:05] so many

[00:33:05] words

[00:33:06] today

[00:33:06] in this

[00:33:07] chapter

[00:33:07] alone

[00:33:08] and most

[00:33:09] of it

[00:33:09] is like

[00:33:09] i feel

[00:33:10] like

[00:33:10] even like

[00:33:11] some of

[00:33:11] the

[00:33:11] slang

[00:33:12] like

[00:33:12] um

[00:33:12] is

[00:33:13] very

[00:33:13] british

[00:33:14] slang

[00:33:16] which

[00:33:17] is

[00:33:17] appropriate

[00:33:17] because

[00:33:17] the

[00:33:17] story

[00:33:18] while

[00:33:18] not

[00:33:18] taking

[00:33:19] place

[00:33:19] in

[00:33:19] earth

[00:33:19] britain

[00:33:20] takes

[00:33:20] place

[00:33:20] in a

[00:33:21] very

[00:33:21] british

[00:33:23] influenced

[00:33:23] locale

[00:33:24] yes

[00:33:25] uh

[00:33:26] and then

[00:33:26] my

[00:33:26] next

[00:33:26] quote

[00:33:27] here

[00:33:28] uh

[00:33:28] waran

[00:33:29] relmar

[00:33:30] is your

[00:33:30] parents

[00:33:31] gill

[00:33:32] okay

[00:33:32] so

[00:33:33] the

[00:33:34] accent

[00:33:34] in these

[00:33:34] dialogue

[00:33:35] questions

[00:33:35] is real

[00:33:37] thick

[00:33:38] but

[00:33:39] i was

[00:33:40] able to

[00:33:40] read

[00:33:41] through

[00:33:41] through

[00:33:42] it

[00:33:42] pretty

[00:33:42] well

[00:33:43] like

[00:33:43] as i

[00:33:43] was

[00:33:43] going

[00:33:43] through

[00:33:43] the

[00:33:44] story

[00:33:44] um

[00:33:45] that

[00:33:45] said

[00:33:45] i don't

[00:33:46] know

[00:33:46] if

[00:33:47] relmar

[00:33:47] is an

[00:33:48] accented

[00:33:49] word

[00:33:49] that

[00:33:49] i'm

[00:33:49] just

[00:33:50] missing

[00:33:50] because

[00:33:50] i can't

[00:33:51] seem to

[00:33:51] find out

[00:33:51] like

[00:33:52] like

[00:33:52] piece

[00:33:52] that

[00:33:52] together

[00:33:53] or

[00:33:53] if

[00:33:54] it's

[00:33:54] actually

[00:33:54] the

[00:33:54] name

[00:33:54] of

[00:33:54] the

[00:33:54] world

[00:33:55] they're

[00:33:55] currently

[00:33:55] on

[00:33:56] like

[00:33:56] because

[00:34:13] we

[00:34:13] are

[00:34:14] is

[00:34:15] your

[00:34:15] parents

[00:34:15] girl

[00:34:15] like

[00:34:16] that's

[00:34:16] what

[00:34:16] that's

[00:34:16] what

[00:34:16] it's

[00:34:17] it's

[00:34:17] it's

[00:34:18] saying

[00:34:18] without

[00:34:19] the

[00:34:19] accent

[00:34:20] but

[00:34:20] um

[00:34:21] but

[00:34:22] like

[00:34:22] it

[00:34:22] says

[00:34:22] where

[00:34:22] on

[00:34:23] relmar

[00:34:23] is

[00:34:24] your

[00:34:24] parents

[00:34:24] like

[00:34:25] so

[00:34:25] is

[00:34:25] like

[00:34:25] is

[00:34:26] that

[00:34:26] the

[00:34:26] world

[00:34:26] they

[00:34:27] live

[00:34:27] on

[00:34:28] sounds

[00:34:28] like

[00:34:29] it

[00:34:29] yeah

[00:34:29] like

[00:34:30] where

[00:34:30] in

[00:34:30] the

[00:34:30] world

[00:34:30] are

[00:34:31] your

[00:34:31] parents

[00:34:31] like

[00:34:31] that's

[00:34:31] kind

[00:34:31] of

[00:34:32] the

[00:34:32] the

[00:34:32] phrase

[00:34:32] it's

[00:34:33] kind

[00:34:33] of

[00:34:33] going

[00:34:33] with

[00:34:33] but

[00:34:33] yeah

[00:34:35] well

[00:34:35] okay

[00:34:36] jumping

[00:34:36] into

[00:34:38] chapter

[00:34:38] two

[00:34:38] because

[00:34:39] it's

[00:34:39] relevant

[00:34:39] to

[00:34:39] this

[00:34:40] yeah

[00:34:42] um

[00:34:42] uh

[00:34:43] Kes

[00:34:43] is basically

[00:34:44] saying

[00:34:45] or some

[00:34:45] or

[00:34:45] narrator

[00:34:46] or whatever

[00:34:46] says

[00:34:47] winter

[00:34:47] was coming

[00:34:48] and she

[00:34:48] knew

[00:34:48] from

[00:34:49] previous

[00:34:49] experience

[00:34:50] on

[00:34:50] narak

[00:34:51] that

[00:34:51] winter

[00:34:52] wasn't

[00:34:52] something

[00:34:52] to be

[00:34:53] taken

[00:34:53] lightly

[00:34:53] oh

[00:34:54] that's

[00:34:54] true

[00:34:55] as soon as

[00:34:55] I read

[00:34:55] that I'm

[00:34:56] like

[00:34:56] that really

[00:34:57] sounds like

[00:34:57] narak

[00:34:57] is another

[00:34:58] planet

[00:34:59] that she

[00:34:59] isn't

[00:34:59] currently

[00:34:59] on

[00:35:00] or

[00:35:00] that's

[00:35:01] this

[00:35:01] planet

[00:35:02] but

[00:35:02] she's

[00:35:02] from

[00:35:02] a

[00:35:02] different

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[00:35:38] Brace yourselves, guys, because I got a very long quote here.

[00:35:41] But I have equally long amount or I have a list of notes afterwards.

[00:35:46] So I had to do a whole like big long quote of it.

[00:35:50] Don't ever open the door to anyone late at night, especially after the clock strikes 12.

[00:35:58] No matter how much they knock and beg, don't ever open the door.

[00:36:04] But what if it sounds, but what if it's someone in serious trouble?

[00:36:09] Kes protested, feeling rather annoyed.

[00:36:11] What if it's a starving or injured animal, a stray kitten even?

[00:36:14] Am I supposed to turn my back on that?

[00:36:17] Sometimes a closed door as fine as your instincts is the best defense against vins of the dark world.

[00:36:28] Especially the thin like the chanterelles.

[00:36:31] The chanterelles?

[00:36:34] Kes looked startled.

[00:36:36] Aren't they all dead and gone?

[00:36:37] Or gone away with the other high elves of Alfheim?

[00:36:43] Unless these chanterelles were dark elves, then they retreated underground.

[00:36:49] Dark elves are actually dwarves.

[00:36:52] Or dark elves is actually dwarves, Madam Mosley explained.

[00:36:55] And they're not such a bad lot when compared to the jest.

[00:37:02] Or compared to that just chanterelles bunch.

[00:37:07] Them highborn were just as bad as them Hualau humans.

[00:37:14] Fiercely nauseousistic and violent.

[00:37:18] Savage to a degree that made even the she shake their heads in dismay.

[00:37:27] And that's not the worst of it.

[00:37:30] Okay.

[00:37:31] So I've got a few things here.

[00:37:35] Number one.

[00:37:36] This feels like foreshadowing to something we've seen before or might even see again in Short Hoggers.

[00:37:43] Like the, um, just the, um, um, the whole, I, uh, specifically because I'm referencing from, uh, from Ellie, the Ellie Lambert story, which we know is an early version of Short Hoggers.

[00:37:58] Um, uh, Kes does have a situation where she, uh, has, has somebody trying to get into her house and is like knocking on the door and saying that it's one of her friends, but she doesn't trust it.

[00:38:09] So it really kind of sounded like when this, when she's being told the rules of like, don't open the door at night for anybody, even if it's somebody familiar or somebody injured, like that kind of thing.

[00:38:19] Really kind of feels like that's going to come up or is that's like a, like almost foreshadowing for that event.

[00:38:23] If that scene is still in Short Hoggers.

[00:38:26] Um, number two.

[00:38:28] Uh, it's mentioned earlier of a war of the courts.

[00:38:32] And here we even get more information about that the Chantrelles were elven in nature.

[00:38:38] Uh, so I wonder, and I'm probably, I'm probably, I think I'm guessing right, is that the Court Wars was like a war of the elven courts.

[00:38:46] Um, like in folklore, elves and other fairies have seasonal courts, like the summer court, the, the, uh, the autumn court or the winter court.

[00:38:54] Specifically the, the summer court and the winter court are the ones that are usually like most prominent in, in folklore and stories.

[00:38:59] Um, they're also known as the unsealy and sealy courts.

[00:39:03] Um, so I, I guess that's like kind of what, what the referencing of like the court wars or the war of the courts.

[00:39:11] Um, also this quote references the she.

[00:39:15] Now in the, in the, in the, in the spelling, it's, it's S I D H E, but you pronounce it she.

[00:39:21] Um, because it's like Gaelic or a traditional Irish word for the fae and the fairies.

[00:39:27] Um, which along with the old world association of dark elves equals dwarves, which is a thing in like Norse mythology, like the, the dark elves are the dwarves, uh, and such.

[00:39:37] Um, I just really want to like emphasize this stuff because I really like this little bit of like further world building that we get explained to us by a character in the story.

[00:39:49] Um, yeah.

[00:39:50] Uh, similarly, we get, uh, getting more, getting to hear a little bit more about the Huala humans and at least there, uh, even in, as a comparison to these cruel chanterelle people and how like it would make even the, the Huala humans, uh, um, like, like seem, seem, uh, seem like, uh, uh, uh, timid in comparison.

[00:40:12] Um, and, and finally my, my third comment here, the heavy use of an accent by Miss Mosley or by Madam Mosley in this story is really cool and immersive.

[00:40:24] Um, despite how heavy it is, I actually found myself really, like really quickly able to translate it on the fly while I was reading the story.

[00:40:32] And I was reading the story for the most part aloud.

[00:40:35] Um, though for as much as it's used as Mosley tells the stories of these stories to, to cast throughout this entire chapter, it can be a bit tiring during long stretches of it.

[00:40:52] I was getting really ballsy to have the character that tells the story amount of exposition all in like a thick accent.

[00:41:02] That's incredibly ballsy.

[00:41:04] Yeah.

[00:41:05] It's like a very thick, like UK kind of accent or like, well, it's kind of like, um, like I kind of kept slipping into like Southern American accent, but like, yeah, Southern bell.

[00:41:15] But like, you know, what's funny, the Southern bell accent, like that, that Southern accent from the States is really just, I think I heard somewhere that it's actually just a, a sped up or, or slowed down version of the English Cockney accent and, or like the English accent.

[00:41:30] So it could go either way, like, like, like depending on how you're reading this, the, the, this accent.

[00:41:35] Um, but if also, I mean, not, not to be like, uh, like fictionally racist, but it does kind of fit a troll.

[00:41:44] Yeah, it does.

[00:41:46] Yeah.

[00:41:47] Uh, especially the way like there's a scribe, like how her, like her tusks are like her, her teeth are like protruding from her lips.

[00:41:52] Cause she, uh, when she's drinking the tea and she's got like meaty sauce, like salami sized pinkies.

[00:41:59] Yes.

[00:42:00] So yeah, it just really kind of seems to fit her character.

[00:42:03] And it's really, like you said, it's really gutsy to use that for an entire like storytelling.

[00:42:08] Um, and while on you for sticking with it, by the way, like, even though, like I'm saying like, it's like, while it is like kind of like tightness,

[00:42:16] it's like tiresome sometimes when you're reading it, especially for a prolonged story, it just adds to the immersion level of this whole thing.

[00:42:22] Yeah.

[00:42:23] Um, but yeah, so yeah, I really, I really enjoyed the, the, the, the, the dialogue and some of that, um, even with the accent and some of that.

[00:42:31] Although, yeah, it can be a little exhausting when you're reading it.

[00:42:36] Um, you just got to put that little extra work as a reader to, to, to get through it.

[00:42:41] But yeah, uh, I'll move on to the next thing I have here.

[00:42:45] While mum yanked Danny away by his arm, Da scooted forward and kicked the door shut.

[00:42:53] The hand ducked back, but it wasn't quite enough for the heavy oak door slammed shut, snapping off the tips of the tip of the, of the fingers.

[00:43:03] This prompt, uh, this prompted, uh, hair raisin squeal from whatever it was that stood outside.

[00:43:15] While the fingertips rift and squirmed around like maggots on over the carpet.

[00:43:22] Um, I, I really liked this description of the fingers, like snapping off and, and wriggling, still moving on the floor.

[00:43:29] Um, I also, as soon as I was like reading, like, like reading through this, I immediately like envisioned the, uh, the ring rates from, from Lord of the Rings movies.

[00:43:38] Like screw that they're squealing screech when, uh, when they, when the door like slammed on its, on its, uh, on its, uh, on its fingers.

[00:43:48] Um, and I'm wondering if that's just because like of a fantasy kind of vibe of here of like having these, like this, this troll family, like, like shut the door from this, like corpse apparition thing.

[00:43:57] Yeah.

[00:43:58] It tracks pretty well.

[00:43:59] Yeah.

[00:44:01] Um, also it's referenced that like dad is, um, is wielding a Rowan Oak wood, uh, uh, wooden bat.

[00:44:08] And, um, I actually looked at, I looked it up and like Rowan Oak is actually, uh, like Rowan Oak, uh, not to be, not to be confused with Rowan Oak.

[00:44:17] The, uh, the, the mysterious village that went miss, uh, the, where all the people went missing in the, in the colonial days of, of, of Virginia, of Virginia.

[00:44:25] But, um, uh, Rowan wood, uh, is actually, uh, uh, um, used a lot in folklore as like a, as a protective, uh, wood.

[00:44:34] So, um, it's a nice little touch to like have that, uh, like kind of description for the bat.

[00:44:42] Um, my next one I have here.

[00:44:46] Early the next morning, as soon as she finished her river bath, Kes sat by her, by Kes sat by the hearth pondering the story, Miss Mosley, uh,

[00:44:56] Uh, yeah, Miss Mosley.

[00:44:58] Is it Mrs. Mosley or Miss Mosley?

[00:45:00] I think that's Mrs. Mosley.

[00:45:02] No, I think it's Mrs. Mosley.

[00:45:03] Yeah.

[00:45:04] Uh, the story Mrs. Mosley told her.

[00:45:07] She even went as far as to record it in her journal.

[00:45:11] Okay.

[00:45:11] So I feel like this chapter should have been set up in a way that it was established that this was all in Kes's journal.

[00:45:24] Rather than break out, uh, break out of this format, um, like early on and switch some kind of omnipresent narrator POV.

[00:45:34] Um, and then, and then like back to it or like then, then set it up at the end of the story.

[00:45:41] Like, uh, it just felt like that needs to be explained at the beginning rather than at the very end.

[00:45:47] That this is all being jotted down in, in her journal or even like in a way, like, like maybe like Kes in a, uh, is show it, show that Kes is like, uh, this is all jawed down in Kes's journal somehow.

[00:46:01] Um, not like break it up between like first person journal format and then cut to a third person and then explain that this is all being written down in Kes's journal.

[00:46:11] Well, uh, my issue with that is that there's no transition.

[00:46:20] Yeah.

[00:46:21] Like we have them talking while having tea and then the dialogue stops and then all of a sudden it's early the next morning.

[00:46:30] Yeah.

[00:46:30] Like, well, after, after having her bath, uh, Kes decided to start writing this into her journal.

[00:46:34] It's like,

[00:46:34] It makes it seem like they're still in the same house.

[00:46:37] Yeah, exactly.

[00:46:38] Which they could be.

[00:46:39] I don't know if the troll went to her place or vice versa, but yeah.

[00:46:43] Yeah.

[00:46:44] Yeah.

[00:46:44] It just, it feels like, like the form, like there should have been like a, a more cohesive format to this, like of like when things were put down to paper.

[00:46:54] Well, and then later, um, when Kes nibbled the end of her pencil for a few minutes and then wrote some more, that section after that,

[00:47:04] is italicized.

[00:47:06] Yeah.

[00:47:07] So like, why wasn't the entire thing italicized?

[00:47:09] Point nine minutes in the journal.

[00:47:10] Yeah.

[00:47:10] So like everything should have been italicized, uh, from like the very, from near the beginning to the, to this point.

[00:47:18] Or whatever, whatever was like the story that, that, um, that, uh, Madam Mosley was, was telling her.

[00:47:24] Should have all been, technically should have been, uh, italics because it was all going into her journal.

[00:47:31] So, I mean, we all know how much, how much we all like the, the italics, uh, format, but.

[00:47:37] Yeah.

[00:47:37] All of us.

[00:47:38] Yeah.

[00:47:39] Everybody here loves italics.

[00:47:41] Mm-hmm.

[00:47:44] Wink.

[00:47:48] Uh, but yeah.

[00:47:49] So yeah, that's just the thing is like, I, I kind of wish that there'd been a little bit more of a, um, uh, a cohesive format rather than like skipping,

[00:47:56] skipping, uh, jumping between two and then at the very end explaining that this was all in actually in, in the same journal format, but it was told by the third person perspective for some reason.

[00:48:07] Um.

[00:48:08] Does it actually say that it was in that format?

[00:48:11] It, it straight up says here, like Miss, like, like, like the quote I, the quote I referenced, like, while she was pondering by her heart, the, uh, the story of Miss Mosley, uh, that was told to her.

[00:48:21] She even went on as far as to record it in her journal.

[00:48:24] So everything that we, we heard was technically in her journal, but like, I kind of wish it had been formatted that way from the get go rather than jump to a third person.

[00:48:33] Um, because we already had that issue where like it started, the whole story started with a, a journal entry from Kes's journal.

[00:48:40] And then it just like haphazardly fell into a third person perspective for the rest of the story up to this point.

[00:48:50] But, but I'm assuming she didn't like write down.

[00:48:54] Mostly like accent the entire time in the journal.

[00:48:58] Unless she has like eidetic memory and can like, yeah, do that kind of thing.

[00:49:02] But like, that should be, that would also have to be like added in for, for clarification.

[00:49:06] Cause like, man, that's a lot of trouble to write it that way.

[00:49:12] Um, but yeah.

[00:49:14] So I'll move on to the next thing I have here.

[00:49:16] Uh, Miss Mosley doesn't strike me as the sort of person that would tell crazy tall tales, but being a really, but being a really young impressionable kid at the time, she was naturally gullible enough to believe something like that.

[00:49:31] Her siblings, being both young, imaginable kids themselves, probably mistook some poor wandering vagrant as one of the infamous Chantrelle ghosts.

[00:49:40] You know, cause Miss Mosley and her siblings who are fucking trolls and you are a garden and you dwell in some mystical land of fairy.

[00:49:52] Why are you so skeptical of the supernatural events?

[00:49:57] I, I know that the overall magical realism vibe of these stories makes it so that she could still be skeptical of certain things, but it always irks me at the end.

[00:50:08] Like to no end.

[00:50:09] I understand.

[00:50:10] It's probably like this, like, okay, there are different like magical races and there is like light amounts of magic and all that stuff.

[00:50:17] But the stuff that they don't know about is still weird.

[00:50:21] Yeah.

[00:50:21] Like she even references like at the end of the story, it's like, Oh, maybe it's got some old magic to it.

[00:50:25] Like maybe it'll give me some luck.

[00:50:26] It's like you believe in old magics, but you don't believe in apparitions and cursed ghosts.

[00:50:33] Like you either believe in everything or you don't believe in anything.

[00:50:36] Well, no, you believe in what you see and what you know.

[00:50:40] If they haven't ever seen apparitions and ghosts, but they've seen, uh, elves use magic to make their glassware stronger and shinier, that is acceptable.

[00:50:50] But ghosts aren't cause they haven't seen them.

[00:50:52] I, I, maybe also, um, something that I think might like also help me like get over this, this, this, this hill that I will die on.

[00:51:01] Yeah, that's fair.

[00:51:02] That's entirely fair.

[00:51:02] Um, is that like, maybe she's, she's being skeptical as a safety blanket or as a coping mechanism for her own fears of these kind of things.

[00:51:10] But I feel like that needs to be a little bit more like that needs to be elaborated.

[00:51:13] If that's the case.

[00:51:16] Um, and actually I'll go into the next thing.

[00:51:17] Cause it's, it's also going to reference into my, my, the hill I will die on.

[00:51:22] As for the, as for those three brick kids disappearing.

[00:51:25] Well, a lot of things could happen or could have happened.

[00:51:29] None of it's supernatural related.

[00:51:30] They could have fallen down a sinkhole.

[00:51:33] I know I nearly did while in Sephrasia or gotten lost and eventually died of exposure, perhaps while taking shelter in one of the many isolated caves in that rock formation or else they were, they, they all became the unfortunate meal of a local predator, a rock tiger or an amphiteer.

[00:51:54] An amphiteer is a dragon-like mythological beast, a large winged serpent.

[00:52:01] But sure, not supernatural.

[00:52:04] I will die on this hill.

[00:52:05] It's something that they've seen before.

[00:52:08] I know, I know, but it still bugs me to fucking no end.

[00:52:11] Yeah, yeah.

[00:52:12] Like the, the, I, it's, it's, you know, you know, it's funny gamer.

[00:52:15] This happens in our, in our, in our, uh, uh, in our tabletop games on one less die, uh, from you most of the time is like, why would I find this strange?

[00:52:24] Why would I, why would I be terrified of this?

[00:52:26] I live in a fantasy world.

[00:52:27] Yeah.

[00:52:28] Like when you're, when you're calling, when you're calling, uh, like you're, when you're calling out my, uh, my, uh, ask for, for a sand roll.

[00:52:37] And it's like, why would, why do I need to roll sand?

[00:52:39] This should be normal to me at this point.

[00:52:41] Like that's, that's why I'm like the 15th time I've been bitten by a zombie or something, you know, it's kind of normal.

[00:52:50] Yeah.

[00:52:51] But at that point, the sand check is also not for the supernatural element.

[00:52:53] It's for like the bite or for like, for like the, the threat of death or worse.

[00:52:59] But yeah.

[00:53:00] Um, God, it's just like, I can't like, like rock, rock tiger.

[00:53:07] Okay.

[00:53:07] So it's a tiger that lives among like large rocks and stuff like that maybe, or maybe it is just a straight up elemental tiger of earth.

[00:53:14] But then an amphiteer, I've actually heard of them before and they're dragging like winged, uh, winged serpents.

[00:53:22] Uh, all right.

[00:53:23] I will step away from my soapbox.

[00:53:26] Yes.

[00:53:28] Uh, and I will, I will continue on to the next thing I have here, which has to, happens to be related.

[00:53:35] Of course it does.

[00:53:36] Why wouldn't it be?

[00:53:38] Uh, that would certainly take care of the ghosts or whatever haunting the old, that old place or else build a big blooming fence around it to keep people away.

[00:53:49] Don't just put up a bunch of magical standing stones around the front gate with a list of rules to follow.

[00:53:56] So she even like suggests that there, she does believe in ghosts or hauntings of some kind.

[00:54:04] And, um, I don't, I don't like when she was saying it's like, oh, they should just put up a blooming fence around this place to keep people out rather than these magical standing stones.

[00:54:12] And, uh, and a, uh, and a list of, uh, list of, uh, rules to follow.

[00:54:15] And I was just like, I don't know.

[00:54:17] I think those are basically the same solution.

[00:54:21] Like either putting a fence up or like the standing stones around the gate and like rules to like no go near it.

[00:54:26] Does Kes just not like magic?

[00:54:29] Maybe.

[00:54:30] Is she just anti-magic?

[00:54:31] But here's the thing with the magic and the rules, you have to know the rules.

[00:54:36] With a fence, you can't go past the fence.

[00:54:39] You could see it.

[00:54:40] Anyone can see that.

[00:54:41] But it also kind of seems like aside from the gate where the, where the Cairns are, there is some kind of magical perimeter that like doesn't let you go near the, the estate.

[00:54:50] Like remember, like she, when she was like walking around the, the, the perimeter, she couldn't, there was like these trails that she followed that would not actually take her to the estate.

[00:55:01] Like almost as if they were magic.

[00:55:03] Like she got a vibe that she shouldn't go near.

[00:55:06] So she didn't just cause she had good judgment basically.

[00:55:08] Yeah.

[00:55:09] I don't, I, it kind of gave me the impression that it was like some kind of magical like barrier or something like that, or like some kind of like it served like the, the, the terrain or like, uh, it's like influencing her to like avoid the, like, even though she like,

[00:55:20] she's a trail, she's not going there, but she thinks she is.

[00:55:22] And so she's kind of like getting lost, but yeah, it just, it just really feels like Cass is super anti-magic.

[00:55:29] Like the case.

[00:55:30] Maybe, but then she uses magic.

[00:55:32] So she's kind of a hypocrite.

[00:55:33] Cause he's using like barriers and wards and stuff like that.

[00:55:36] Cats and shit.

[00:55:37] Although that's not necessarily magic.

[00:55:39] That's more of a natural trait of hers because of her species.

[00:55:44] Um, that was another thing I should, I thought I put in my notes.

[00:55:47] Oh yeah.

[00:55:48] Here is actually the last thing I had for chapter one.

[00:55:50] Um, unlike humans, gardens and felines could easily understand what could easily understand one another.

[00:55:56] It all had to do with sharing a similar wavelength as well as a common ancestor.

[00:56:01] I just, again, I really love that we get more garden facts and like clarifying that like they are.

[00:56:09] Oh, like connected to like cats in some way.

[00:56:11] Um, yeah, but my problem with that is in the previous story, Cass herself was visibly annoyed at trying to have a mundane conversation with a normal cat.

[00:56:24] Yet in this story, it says that gardens and felines can easily understand each other.

[00:56:29] I think the difference though, between that one is that that was an earth cat, which is a regular like standard cat versus the cats that she's used to, which are like specialized cats, like in the fairy worlds.

[00:56:41] So like maybe the feline cats are just dumber than your average cats.

[00:56:46] But she says can communicate with feline.

[00:56:50] Yeah.

[00:56:50] Like, which sounds like all feline creatures.

[00:56:53] Yeah.

[00:56:54] I feel like maybe if there's to be in a correction, like keep this part where like of her connection to cats and so that.

[00:57:00] And then maybe in that one, like have it.

[00:57:02] So the cat, like she can communicate with it, but it's incredibly simple because it's still just an animal.

[00:57:08] So like food, pet.

[00:57:10] Yeah, exactly.

[00:57:10] Yeah.

[00:57:10] Like pet, warmth, sleep, bed, or like a cat chair.

[00:57:18] Yeah.

[00:57:20] Yes.

[00:57:22] But yeah, I do agree.

[00:57:24] Like that, that, that is one instance where that should probably be modified in the previous story to help this, this, this trait that they seem to have.

[00:57:33] But yeah.

[00:57:34] Because that would also be funny too.

[00:57:36] Just hearing the cats say that.

[00:57:37] And also like, oh yeah, just be like simple words.

[00:57:40] Because like in this one, like it sounds like they're actually holding like full on conversations, even though we're only hearing morale or meow.

[00:57:45] And then like, that's right, Timmy.

[00:57:47] You think?

[00:57:49] That's right.

[00:57:49] Yeah.

[00:57:50] It goes on like that.

[00:57:52] But that is the end of my notes for chapter one.

[00:57:56] So Mikey, these stands for evil.

[00:57:59] All right.

[00:58:02] So my first issue, the chapter one.

[00:58:07] Is the skunk image.

[00:58:10] Oh, what?

[00:58:11] Hello.

[00:58:11] My name is Bob.

[00:58:12] What, Bob?

[00:58:13] I mean.

[00:58:13] Bob's an issue?

[00:58:14] Yep.

[00:58:15] How dare.

[00:58:16] Because in the story, it doesn't mention that the skunks can speak.

[00:58:24] Ah.

[00:58:26] I.

[00:58:27] I.

[00:58:28] I don't know.

[00:58:31] Hashtag justice for Bob.

[00:58:33] Yeah.

[00:58:33] Bob did nothing wrong.

[00:58:38] Yeah.

[00:58:41] All right.

[00:58:44] Fair.

[00:58:45] Do do do.

[00:58:47] Do do do.

[00:58:48] Uh.

[00:58:48] So my next one is that I.

[00:58:53] Really.

[00:58:54] Didn't care for the troll accent throughout the majority of part one.

[00:59:00] It is a very.

[00:59:02] It's a lot.

[00:59:03] It's a lot, but I will.

[00:59:04] I will say it's a very.

[00:59:04] It is.

[00:59:05] It's.

[00:59:05] It's a ballsy move, but like not every.

[00:59:07] Like I will admit not everyone's going to care for it.

[00:59:09] Yeah.

[00:59:11] Yeah.

[00:59:12] Yeah.

[00:59:12] It's a very divisive.

[00:59:13] Choice.

[00:59:15] To me, it's one of those things that would work better if you actually had someone speaking

[00:59:21] it.

[00:59:22] Yes.

[00:59:23] Yeah.

[00:59:23] So that we get all the enunciations and such.

[00:59:27] Like, I won't lie.

[00:59:29] I was actually.

[00:59:30] I was considering with all my quotes that were in that accent, I was considering changing

[00:59:36] it to be like normal, like retranslating it back.

[00:59:39] To like regular dialogue so that I could then add in like a, like a Southern accent to

[00:59:45] my right.

[00:59:45] To my, to my phrasing and not like feel out the words again.

[00:59:49] Yeah.

[00:59:50] Cause like when you're reading it alone, like even aloud and so that, and like you can take

[00:59:54] all the time you need.

[00:59:55] So it sounds fine to your, your brain.

[00:59:57] But like then when I'm reading it on recording in front of you guys and probably like dozens

[01:00:03] of listeners.

[01:00:04] Yeah.

[01:00:05] Um, it's going to probably sound out pretty janky to like that.

[01:00:09] Cause I'm like, I think I'm doing pretty well translating it.

[01:00:11] Um, like live and I'm, I'm probably doing it fine to me, but when you're trying to translate

[01:00:17] it live for like an audience, it's like, uh, uh, it's very janky and very slow.

[01:00:23] Mm hmm.

[01:00:24] Yeah.

[01:00:26] Yeah.

[01:00:30] I already mentioned the transition issue.

[01:00:32] Yes.

[01:00:33] Um, and I feel that, um, because we get one correct spelling of, uh, the Carnes, I don't

[01:00:46] know.

[01:00:47] Like whatever that we finally know what they are.

[01:00:51] Yeah.

[01:00:52] It's like, but then it uses like, there's like literally two or I think there's two instances

[01:00:56] where it says the same thing, like chained cranes.

[01:00:59] Yeah.

[01:01:00] It's just like, why?

[01:01:01] Why?

[01:01:02] Like, again, it's gotta be that tight.

[01:01:03] It's gotta be a typo, like, like a spell, a spell check thing or something.

[01:01:07] Um, unless we're just dumb and like, uh, like somebody can tell us like, actually, it's

[01:01:12] supposed to be crane as well in this instance too.

[01:01:14] Like you can do that idiots.

[01:01:17] Yeah.

[01:01:18] Yeah.

[01:01:20] And, uh, that's into my chapter one.

[01:01:23] Okay.

[01:01:24] Uh, gamer, what do you have left for chapter one?

[01:01:26] Right.

[01:01:26] We're still on chapter one.

[01:01:29] It's okay.

[01:01:30] I mean, at least for me, chapter two and chapter three are way, like there's way less notes

[01:01:34] or way, uh, way less material for him.

[01:01:36] I mean, there's a lot less.

[01:01:37] To be fair, that, that was also the, that's also the case with the story is like most of

[01:01:41] the story is chapter one.

[01:01:42] And then there's like, uh, two pages for chapter two and three together.

[01:01:47] Like, yeah.

[01:01:51] Okay.

[01:01:52] So, um, in this, uh, Mosley's basically talking about how, um, the elves were like using magic

[01:02:00] and they're like practicing dark arts and to surrender their humanity as well as their soul

[01:02:06] and all that is dangerous.

[01:02:08] And they died and all that.

[01:02:10] Um, so it's called humanity.

[01:02:13] Would it be humanity for elves?

[01:02:16] What would they call it themselves?

[01:02:18] So, like humanity can work.

[01:02:23] I do agree.

[01:02:24] It does feel like it needs to be something else.

[01:02:26] Um, cause like if we go by like the very early versions of D and D, uh, dwarves and elves

[01:02:33] were technically demi humans.

[01:02:35] Yeah.

[01:02:35] That's where I was going to go.

[01:02:36] Like, is it just, does everyone do all the other races refer to that as humanity?

[01:02:43] Because they're all like, they all have their origins from the human race.

[01:02:47] Yeah.

[01:02:48] And if, if that's even the case.

[01:02:50] Yeah.

[01:02:51] I don't know.

[01:02:52] So I got a notification sound.

[01:02:53] It sounds like the, like something like somebody disconnected.

[01:02:56] Like God damn it.

[01:02:58] Um, yeah.

[01:02:59] Like it, I do feel, I I'm kind of with you on this.

[01:03:01] Like I didn't put in my notes, but I do feel like the use of humanity doesn't seem right

[01:03:06] because I mean like, yes, it is.

[01:03:08] Like they are people, but like there's, I feel like it does feel like there needs to

[01:03:13] be a different term than humanity for, for that.

[01:03:17] Um, but I just don't know what that would be.

[01:03:21] Oh, neither.

[01:03:22] Like, like, cause I mean, they're people of fairy.

[01:03:24] So like all of fairy-dom.

[01:03:26] Maybe.

[01:03:27] I have heard that term a couple of times.

[01:03:29] People losing their fairy-dom?

[01:03:31] Oh yeah.

[01:03:32] Oh yeah.

[01:03:32] Humanity.

[01:03:33] Oh yeah.

[01:03:33] Like, okay.

[01:03:33] Yeah.

[01:03:33] It's in reference to their humanity.

[01:03:35] So like.

[01:03:35] Yeah.

[01:03:36] Losing their humanity.

[01:03:37] They're, honestly, actually no, I know exactly what, their, their soul.

[01:03:40] Like they sacrifice, like it even, I think it references.

[01:03:42] It says humanity and soul.

[01:03:44] Yeah.

[01:03:44] So like it honestly just cut out the humanity part and just put soul.

[01:03:47] Cause the soul is like, like losing your soul or maybe even your morality.

[01:03:51] Yeah.

[01:03:52] Kind of thing like that.

[01:03:53] In place of humanity.

[01:03:54] Yeah.

[01:03:55] Cause yeah, like humanity is such a human centric term.

[01:03:58] And yes, these are, these are, these are fairies and, and, and other entities.

[01:04:03] And so that, and like, they're not necessarily human, but they are like people like humans.

[01:04:07] And so, so like humanity is a good word for that, but it's also not exactly.

[01:04:13] Um, I'm about to say not appropriate, but like, it's not like.

[01:04:17] It's, it's not, it doesn't seem like the right word because given like the, like, given

[01:04:21] that we're talking about like non-human entities.

[01:04:23] Yeah.

[01:04:24] Even though it is the same kind of thing, but like, it doesn't seem appropriate.

[01:04:29] What would you say?

[01:04:29] Like sentience or like self-awareness?

[01:04:32] Like that's basically what it is when you're losing your humanity, right?

[01:04:35] Well, no, when you're losing your humanity, it usually means like you're losing, like you're

[01:04:40] losing, losing your, like your empathy or your, your, um, uh, what makes you a good person

[01:04:50] is usually like, that's sort of the term.

[01:04:52] So that's why I, like I suggest maybe morality, like they're, they're losing their morality

[01:04:56] or their, their empathy and soul.

[01:04:59] Uh, honestly, again, soul seems like the, the, just use soul, like alone, not use like

[01:05:04] humanity and soul.

[01:05:06] Yes.

[01:05:06] And then it says a little bit later, she's talking about how her family lived in the

[01:05:15] village.

[01:05:16] Um, and then like, that was great until like, then like world war two came on and frequent

[01:05:22] nighttime air raids and gas master drills and all that.

[01:05:25] Yeah.

[01:05:26] And the British visual.

[01:05:27] Yeah.

[01:05:28] I like the visual of like trolls and other fantasy races in this world, joining the army

[01:05:32] and fighting in a mundane war like this.

[01:05:35] Right.

[01:05:36] Again, very shadow run.

[01:05:38] Sorry, Mikey.

[01:05:39] Yeah.

[01:05:39] I mean, also that's what I was about to say.

[01:05:41] It's, I, it's like a present day shadow run.

[01:05:44] Sorry, Mikey.

[01:05:44] I wrote that down.

[01:05:46] And actually, um, FASA did it again.

[01:05:48] FASA has already done that technically with, um, their, their new.

[01:05:53] So FASA, the company that made shadow run, sorry, Mikey and earth Dawn, which is like

[01:05:57] in the like bronze age era in the same world as shadow run.

[01:06:03] Um, they lost the rights to shadow run back in like the early, in the late nineties.

[01:06:07] Yeah.

[01:06:08] So they can't use shadow run anymore.

[01:06:10] So they decided recently in the last couple of years to actually make their own new setting

[01:06:16] that's in a modern ish era, but instead of cyberpunk and like the cyberpunk dystopia,

[01:06:21] they're going more with like a, a Victorian era steampunk.

[01:06:25] Um, so basically like, uh, a steam, uh, the whole situation is like a steampunk, uh, particle

[01:06:31] collider, if for lack of a better word, um, blew up creating a rift to another world,

[01:06:38] which is actually like a pat, like the, the, the, the past of earth Dawn.

[01:06:42] And when that happened, people started expressing into orcs and dwarves and elves and humans

[01:06:47] and stuff like that, or in trolls and stuff like that.

[01:06:49] Yeah.

[01:06:51] Humans expressing back to humans, but yeah, like, like that's how they explain like the,

[01:06:57] the whole, like, um, uh, the whole, like, uh, goblinization and, and, and how people awakened

[01:07:05] into elves and dwarves and stuff like that in shadow run.

[01:07:07] And they just kind of like, they just jumped for, they jumped backward in time to like that

[01:07:12] for it to happen in the fifth world, i.e.

[01:07:14] The, the, the, the late 19th century or, or the early 19th century.

[01:07:20] Um, so yeah, I, I, it kind of sounds like that, like that era.

[01:07:25] It kind of reminds me of like that.

[01:07:27] Uh, I think it's called 1889.

[01:07:29] Um, yeah, I remember having a really boring name, unfortunately.

[01:07:32] Yeah.

[01:07:32] Yeah.

[01:07:32] And it centers around London because London was still like an empire at the time when

[01:07:36] it happened.

[01:07:36] So like, they're now more of a powerhouse because they have the steampunk technology and now

[01:07:41] magic.

[01:07:41] So it's now a Victorian era, uh, steampunk dystopia rather than the cyberpunk dystopia

[01:07:49] of shadow run.

[01:07:50] Um, but getting back to this.

[01:07:53] Yeah.

[01:07:53] Like I, I do like the idea of just like, again, um, uh, the way it's described with like the

[01:07:58] British refugees.

[01:07:59] So like, did they like, so these refugees, like, cause a lot in, in real world war one and

[01:08:05] world war two stuff, um, families were leaving London and like the, the populated cities and

[01:08:09] moving out to the countryside so that they were not, they wouldn't be bummed.

[01:08:14] They wouldn't be bombed.

[01:08:15] Um, like that was the thing that was actually happening.

[01:08:16] So I, I kind of like this idea of like these British refugees fleeing into the countryside

[01:08:20] and like slipping into an, into the fairy world.

[01:08:24] And like, and like, and like, but, and like these, this, this, uh, this town of trolls

[01:08:28] and dwarves and other elven creatures and stuff like that just taking them in like, Oh yeah,

[01:08:32] come on this way.

[01:08:34] Yeah.

[01:08:34] They're all good people.

[01:08:35] Yeah.

[01:08:36] They're actually, yeah.

[01:08:36] Again, like, cause they're like, they're, they're just regular people.

[01:08:38] They just happen to be like creatures of fairy.

[01:08:41] Um, so yeah, I, I, I do agree with that.

[01:08:43] Like the idea of again, world war two fantasy races.

[01:08:48] It's just really cool as a concept.

[01:08:51] So, um, Madam Mosley goes and tells a story, the origin of like the gate that's in the woods

[01:08:56] with like the bent trees that are going away from it and like the chained rocks that are

[01:09:00] untouched and all that.

[01:09:03] Um, and like we get the story of the mansion and that accompanies that.

[01:09:08] And like the people that used to live there and what happened to them, but there's no

[01:09:11] word of like why the mansion isn't there anymore.

[01:09:13] Why the trees are bent, why the rocks are chained up, why they're like still clean even

[01:09:18] after sitting there forever.

[01:09:21] And that doesn't get answered through the whole story.

[01:09:25] You're right.

[01:09:25] Unless I missed it.

[01:09:27] I kind of just chalked it up to being like a spooky curse magic.

[01:09:30] That's just over the place.

[01:09:31] So it's just like, it's like, cause like obviously the, uh, the trees like bending away and

[01:09:37] the nothing growing on the rocks and so that.

[01:09:39] And like, that's basically just like a sign of like cursed earth kind of situation.

[01:09:43] Yes.

[01:09:44] But like, yeah, the whole reason that Madam Mosley told this story was to explain that

[01:09:49] whole area.

[01:09:50] Yeah.

[01:09:51] And she basically explained where the gate originally was attached to, but nothing to

[01:09:58] do with where the house went or like anything else about that.

[01:10:04] Fair.

[01:10:04] It's like, we got half the story.

[01:10:07] Yeah, that's true.

[01:10:09] Well, she just told the bits that she wanted to like, to just kind of scare Cass into not

[01:10:14] going near it again.

[01:10:15] What I don't get though, is why Cass didn't go.

[01:10:18] So where's the mansion now?

[01:10:19] It wasn't there anymore.

[01:10:21] Like that seems like a very pressing question to ask, right?

[01:10:24] It did say, it did say that the house is farther in the woods than the gate.

[01:10:28] So like, I figured like that, that spot, that patch in the, in the, in the woods where

[01:10:31] it's like bare and where the gate was like, that's where the gate is.

[01:10:35] But then like further past that gate is deeper into the woods, which is barrier by some force

[01:10:41] or like some, some weird, like thing that we mentioned earlier.

[01:10:44] That's where the actual like manner is.

[01:10:46] So the, uh, and a mansion is saying that it was weird that there was a gate there, but

[01:10:51] no mansion to accompany it.

[01:10:53] I thought because, but didn't it describe that?

[01:10:56] Like the mansions further, like, like further back from the gate.

[01:10:59] And that's why you can't see it.

[01:11:01] Am I, am I just like, maybe, maybe there's just like so much trees in the way that you

[01:11:05] can't see, but I don't know.

[01:11:07] Or it's so far back.

[01:11:09] Yeah.

[01:11:09] That's, that's how I kind of interpret it.

[01:11:11] Cause there are places like hell, there's places near us, like in real life that are like

[01:11:14] that where like the gate is, there's a gate and then there's a, you have to follow

[01:11:18] a, almost like a private road to get to the, in the woods to get to the actual like

[01:11:22] property.

[01:11:24] Oh yeah.

[01:11:25] Um, uh, this is Kes saying, yeah, I wondered if,

[01:11:29] I always wonder about that.

[01:11:30] Um, why build a big gate without a big fancy mansion to go with it?

[01:11:36] But then what does it say afterward?

[01:11:37] Like how did, what does Madame Mosley say?

[01:11:40] According to some of the legends, the gate sits at the entryway to a deserted mansion

[01:11:44] house way back in the woods.

[01:11:46] Okay.

[01:11:46] So the mansion is way back in the woods.

[01:11:49] Okay.

[01:11:49] I may have missed that part.

[01:11:52] This was early on when I was still like getting, um, like getting used to the, uh, accent and

[01:12:00] all that.

[01:12:01] So I may have missed that little bit.

[01:12:03] Fair.

[01:12:04] So yeah.

[01:12:05] So yeah.

[01:12:05] It is also in the dialogue.

[01:12:06] It's way the fuck back there.

[01:12:07] Yeah.

[01:12:08] Yeah.

[01:12:10] Then my last one here for chapter one.

[01:12:13] She had thought how easily it was for the imagination to be fooled.

[01:12:17] Okay.

[01:12:17] This is in regards to, um, she like wakes up and like she looks at her fireplace and she

[01:12:23] thinks that she sees eyes coming out of it and it scares her for a second.

[01:12:26] Um, and she says, she thought how easily it was for the imagination to be fooled by things

[01:12:31] like shadows and firelight.

[01:12:33] Don't you mean shadows, fog and firelight?

[01:12:35] I, I thought the same fucking thing, man.

[01:12:39] I didn't put it in my notes, but I thought the same.

[01:12:40] I was like, that sounds awfully familiar to it.

[01:12:43] It really does.

[01:12:44] Doesn't it?

[01:12:45] Yeah.

[01:12:46] Involving a garden and a bunch of other supernaturally inclined entities.

[01:12:49] Yes.

[01:12:53] Yeah.

[01:12:53] But that's a different one.

[01:12:54] Yeah.

[01:12:55] I, I wonder if that was like an intentional like thing that like maybe like that, uh,

[01:12:59] that M and Pratt put in their stuff or if that was just like a happy coincidence.

[01:13:03] Oh yeah.

[01:13:04] She wrote a story that has a similar title.

[01:13:06] Yeah.

[01:13:08] All right.

[01:13:08] On to chapter two gateway.

[01:13:12] So with this quote here, the Zymac pricked up its ear or pricked up his ears.

[01:13:18] Could it be a scrap of Stilton?

[01:13:20] He tentatively asked.

[01:13:22] It's lots better than, um, than a measly scrap.

[01:13:27] Look.

[01:13:28] A tin, a tin full of scrumptious cheese balls poked through the crack.

[01:13:34] The Zymac hesitated, blinking his bright button eyes.

[01:13:39] Go on, the voice urged.

[01:13:41] Try some.

[01:13:42] Licking his chops, the Zymac reached out a paw.

[01:13:45] Yet as soon as he took one, a purplish red tentacle shot out from behind the door.

[01:13:52] So, and it goes on to like, like, uh, he, uh, he eventually gets grabbed by the creature

[01:13:56] and then eaten.

[01:13:57] Um, so connective tissues time.

[01:14:02] Um, I recently watched, yeah.

[01:14:04] So I recently watched Beetlejuice again, like the first, the, the, the first one, um, in,

[01:14:10] in like to get ready for like to watch the second one, uh, that's coming up, that came

[01:14:14] out to theaters.

[01:14:15] And this scene brought to mind the scene from Beetlejuice that where like Beetlejuice lures

[01:14:19] a fly down to his, like, his like layer with like a chocolate bar and then like to, to

[01:14:25] eat.

[01:14:26] Yeah.

[01:14:27] There's a very similar like vibe between like the scene and that, that old scene from,

[01:14:30] uh, Beetlejuice.

[01:14:32] So, but it was funny.

[01:14:33] Cause like, as soon as soon as that shot to mind, as soon as this happened, but it's

[01:14:36] just like a common thing of like, yes, come to the door.

[01:14:39] I have cookies.

[01:14:40] Yes.

[01:14:41] I have this snack.

[01:14:43] You, um, uh, yeah, that's, that's just all my, my connective tissue time for that.

[01:14:50] Uh, and then the next one I have is around the same time, a hobgoblin and Churka were

[01:14:56] coming back from visiting a friend or visiting some friends.

[01:15:00] Uh, I couldn't seem to find Churka, uh, on Google or anything like that as far as folklore

[01:15:06] creatures or something.

[01:15:07] Uh, so at this point I'm assuming it's some kind of, uh, like creature or entity created

[01:15:12] by, directly created by M and Pratt 99.

[01:15:15] Um, but I kind of wish we had gotten a little bit more description if that was the case.

[01:15:18] Cause I don't know what a Churka looks like.

[01:15:21] Yeah.

[01:15:21] Um, and then the next thing we have, uh, where's he, where's he off to?

[01:15:28] I wonder.

[01:15:29] The hobgoblin said curiously, I don't know.

[01:15:32] And I don't want to know.

[01:15:33] The Churka replied.

[01:15:34] I just hope the next poor bloke who runs into that guy comes out as lucky as us.

[01:15:41] Meanwhile, the hell lion finally found the exit it wanted and stepped outside.

[01:15:48] So this is really in reference to like the, the location that, uh, that it came out of

[01:15:53] like this, like this place of endless halls and doorways to other places and stuff.

[01:15:57] I just really love this liminal space of many doors that go to different like realities and

[01:16:02] dimensions.

[01:16:03] Presumably.

[01:16:04] It's very Scooby-Doo.

[01:16:05] Yeah.

[01:16:05] Very Scooby.

[01:16:06] Oh my God.

[01:16:07] It very, it's yeah, you're right.

[01:16:10] Oh God.

[01:16:10] It's the Scooby-Doo hall.

[01:16:12] Yeah.

[01:16:13] Um, but like, it's also like a very much like the oldest house from, from control or

[01:16:18] like, uh, like the, that, that hall in the matrix, um, with the, where the key master

[01:16:24] has to like open up the doors to like other places in the matrix and such.

[01:16:27] Um, I actually just really hope this gets explored to in some way in some other stories

[01:16:30] by M.

[01:16:31] Pratt, because I'd love to like see more about this.

[01:16:33] It seems like a sort of like a, um, a dimensional threshold, like hub, um, or transdimensional

[01:16:40] junction.

[01:16:41] Of like various locations.

[01:16:43] It's kind of like, almost like the MIB too.

[01:16:44] Like the MIB, uh, headquarters in one of the, in one of the movies where you just see like

[01:16:48] these doors that open up from other places as, uh, as characters are going through to

[01:16:53] and fro.

[01:16:54] So, um, yeah, I just want to know more about this, this liminal space, uh, as I, as I

[01:17:01] want to do.

[01:17:03] But, uh, on my last thing for chapter two is, uh, this one here.

[01:17:07] Um, he found himself looking out over a long stretch of green beach strewn with driftwood

[01:17:14] and hummocks of beach grass.

[01:17:17] Hummocks or hummocks.

[01:17:20] Noun.

[01:17:21] A hillock.

[01:17:22] Null or mound.

[01:17:24] So it's some kind of like small, like, like roll a few, like, like basically like rolling

[01:17:27] hills or like little, like, uh, little like hills and mounds and stuff like that.

[01:17:30] Not quite a hill, but like something smaller than a hill, but still like a kind of a bump

[01:17:35] in the ground, in the terrain.

[01:17:36] It's a speed bump.

[01:17:38] Yeah.

[01:17:39] Natural speed bump.

[01:17:41] Yeah.

[01:17:41] Uh, but that is it for my, uh, actual thoughts for chapter two.

[01:17:46] Uh, so Mikey, what do you have for chapter two?

[01:17:51] Okay.

[01:17:53] So this is tied into chapter one.

[01:17:57] So in chapter one, we make a big deal about the not going through the gate or messing with

[01:18:11] the Carnes.

[01:18:13] Yeah.

[01:18:13] Um, and all the rules and whatnot.

[01:18:18] And then we get to chapter two and then unbeknownst to Kaz, there was another gateway laying several

[01:18:27] dozen paces from where she was gathering wood.

[01:18:30] Oh God.

[01:18:31] I just, I just realized a, probably an unintentional, uh, reference here.

[01:18:37] We were told to watch out for the, for the gate in the woods, not the gate in the grassy

[01:18:42] knoll.

[01:18:43] Yeah.

[01:18:45] Yeah.

[01:18:45] Like it's, it's the second shooter.

[01:18:48] It's the second gate.

[01:18:51] Yeah.

[01:18:52] So, so I feel like there, there should be a warning that there's more than one gate,

[01:19:01] not just here's this one.

[01:19:04] Definitely stay away from this.

[01:19:05] Oh, and there's more like this.

[01:19:08] It's, it sounded like this one.

[01:19:09] How much things do you think are in this world?

[01:19:12] Yeah.

[01:19:13] Like, this is all a warning about the one that she previously actually.

[01:19:17] Were you encountered?

[01:19:19] Yeah.

[01:19:19] For all we know, this stump is completely like mundane from our world to go into it.

[01:19:26] Like you could sit on and have a picnic.

[01:19:28] It doesn't matter, but like, it's only openable from the inside for people to leave out of,

[01:19:33] but you can't go in.

[01:19:34] Yeah.

[01:19:34] That's, that's how I kind of interpret it.

[01:19:36] And also this is like the, the previous one we were warned about by, um, by, by, uh,

[01:19:41] Madam Mosley.

[01:19:42] Madam Mosley didn't, didn't tell her about this one.

[01:19:44] Cause she may not even known about this beach one.

[01:19:46] Yeah.

[01:19:47] She's not necessarily like all knowing.

[01:19:49] Yeah.

[01:19:53] I feel like the community at large would know.

[01:19:57] I don't think so.

[01:19:58] The magic community here.

[01:20:00] Come on now.

[01:20:01] I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I think you're wrong.

[01:20:05] I'm just going to like double down.

[01:20:06] I think you're wrong.

[01:20:07] You're wrong.

[01:20:07] And I hate you.

[01:20:10] No, like I, for real though.

[01:20:11] Like, I think it's just like, um, it was telling us like the dangers of gateways.

[01:20:15] And then what gives us this other gateway that not like that no one's aware of that's

[01:20:19] in the, that's, uh, that's by this seemingly harmless place that she's going to.

[01:20:23] Cause that seems to be kind of a theme in the story is like these, these dangerous gateways

[01:20:27] or these, these, these thresholds to something dangerous in a seemingly somewhere that you

[01:20:33] wouldn't really, that you wouldn't seemingly be like, or you wouldn't feel too much in

[01:20:37] danger of.

[01:20:38] Cause like the, even the, the, the first one is in the woods.

[01:20:42] Yes.

[01:20:42] But it's like, you just got to stay off the trail.

[01:20:45] People are still walking through that, those woods on safe trails.

[01:20:48] So.

[01:20:50] Yeah.

[01:20:50] Yeah.

[01:20:52] Uh, it's just, yeah.

[01:20:55] Yeah.

[01:20:56] She was, she was, she was, what the problem was is like, she was too worried about that

[01:21:00] one forest gate.

[01:21:01] She wasn't aware of the beach gate.

[01:21:04] Mm.

[01:21:07] Yes.

[01:21:09] It.

[01:21:11] It was just.

[01:21:12] It also didn't do anything to her.

[01:21:13] It's just, it was there in the background on a better day.

[01:21:18] Yeah.

[01:21:18] Yeah.

[01:21:19] That's true.

[01:21:21] It's just there.

[01:21:22] It's just there.

[01:21:22] It's inconspicuous and such.

[01:21:25] Mm.

[01:21:27] All right.

[01:21:28] Uh, so that's the end of my, uh, actual thoughts from chapter two.

[01:21:34] Okay.

[01:21:35] Uh, gamer.

[01:21:38] That's me.

[01:21:40] Let's see.

[01:21:42] So the first one we talked about.

[01:21:47] Oh, that one actually kind of answers itself.

[01:21:49] Now that I think about it.

[01:21:51] Um, actually does it.

[01:21:54] Okay.

[01:21:55] I'm gonna bring this up anyways.

[01:21:56] Um, unbeknownst to Cass, there was another gateway lying several dozen paces from where

[01:22:00] she was gathering wood.

[01:22:01] And that's regarding the stump with the liminal space in there.

[01:22:05] Um, as soon as I read that, I'm like, what is the previous gateway they're talking

[01:22:08] about?

[01:22:09] What?

[01:22:10] The literal gate.

[01:22:12] Yeah.

[01:22:13] That's not a gateway.

[01:22:14] Technically.

[01:22:15] Technically it, it is technically cause like it's like it, uh, we were referencing

[01:22:20] like a physical gate, but it also is a gate to some, some, some place in the woods that

[01:22:26] like might even be liminal in itself because like the, the whole like mystical, like part

[01:22:30] of that forest with that, uh, with that curse.

[01:22:33] Yes.

[01:22:33] So when I read another gateway laying like, uh, described like a different dimension, I, it

[01:22:39] made it seem like it was referring to a different dimension previously as well, but it's not.

[01:22:43] Yeah.

[01:22:45] So a gateway of a, of a different color kind of deal.

[01:22:48] Yeah.

[01:22:48] Again, she was, she was so focused on the one gate.

[01:22:50] She didn't realize, but oh yeah, there's other gates that are like more subtle.

[01:22:54] Yes.

[01:22:57] Uh, and then we get to the hobgob and the churka hiding.

[01:23:03] Um, like are you just like sure for the hobgob?

[01:23:06] Yeah, it's a hobgob.

[01:23:07] Um, uh, the one says like, shh, whispered the churka hoarsely, don't make a sound.

[01:23:12] Uh, they listened holding their breath after 10 minutes of utter quiet.

[01:23:15] They heard, I know you, I know, you know, I'm going to, and they, they heard a slow tread

[01:23:21] of feet on Oak boards, footsteps soon past the door that faded in the distance.

[01:23:26] So 10 minutes, 10 solid minutes.

[01:23:29] First off, which is crazy.

[01:23:31] Second off.

[01:23:32] Um, wasn't it initially described that this area is bustling, busy with creatures like

[01:23:38] Grand Central Station.

[01:23:40] And then all of a sudden there's no one around for 10 minutes.

[01:23:45] It definitely needs to have like a spot, like again, maybe a clarifying sentence or two,

[01:23:49] like describing that, like, despite like, like it would usually be hustling and bustling,

[01:23:54] but suddenly in this, in either, either, but down in like the, in, in this section of

[01:23:58] it or something like that, or suddenly everybody was like scampering away to like other locations.

[01:24:03] Suddenly everyone ran away because like this thing is coming for them.

[01:24:07] So they hid in there waiting for it to get past so they could leave.

[01:24:10] Yeah.

[01:24:10] That's probably what's meant to be said, but it's not said.

[01:24:13] So it seems strange.

[01:24:16] That's fair.

[01:24:17] Hmm.

[01:24:18] But that's all I got for chapter two.

[01:24:20] Okay.

[01:24:21] On to chapter three.

[01:24:22] Uh, I only have one quote for this one, but I have a very long line of a long list of,

[01:24:27] of, of, uh, comments regarding it and such.

[01:24:32] She decided to keep it.

[01:24:33] It was a curious thing that kind of reminded her of one of her spirit allies.

[01:24:38] Only this artifact was as flat as a tiddlywink.

[01:24:42] Whereas the ghostly entity that had watched her was a floating eyeball.

[01:24:48] Who knows what this new find might do?

[01:24:51] It might have a smidget of magic, maybe even old magic.

[01:24:56] It might even bring her good luck.

[01:24:59] So I had to look up tiddlywinks.

[01:25:01] And I, I, when I went, when I went to look up tiddlywinks, I was expecting to see some kind of like new fairy or pixie creature from folklore.

[01:25:06] No, it's basically the OG pogs game.

[01:25:10] You didn't know that?

[01:25:12] I have never heard of tiddlywinks like as a toy.

[01:25:17] Um, but yeah, like it's basically a little like plastic pog discs.

[01:25:21] Hell yeah.

[01:25:22] Yeah.

[01:25:23] Yeah.

[01:25:24] Um, I was also left a tad confused since this story seemed to, seemed at first to be forward in time from, from bookstore horror, which is the previous story.

[01:25:35] I thought anyway, um, she even referenced a vacation to Sephrasia, which I thought Escard was, was like, that's where the, the village of Escard was.

[01:25:47] But with this gem, like I disc, I started wondering that, that glowed like strangely when she, when she brought home and some of that, I started to wonder if this was the disc object that she choked down her, that, that choked down her, her throat at the end of the last story.

[01:26:03] You know, the one that she seemed to have a history with.

[01:26:06] And then I was listening through our previous episode while I was editing it last night and looked over the previous story while like, while I was also looking at that and realized this is probably a flashback to when she first came across the disc like object or the disc like gem.

[01:26:26] Um, the first chapter title in this story, uh, specifically is called what happened before, which suddenly I realized was also, um, probably a reference to like, uh, that it's a flashback.

[01:26:40] Um, yeah, yeah, but, but you'll forgive me because no, um, I thought it was referencing, uh, cause like you'll, you'll forgive me.

[01:26:50] Cause I thought it was referencing, uh, the stories of the past that she was being told by Madam Mosley through it.

[01:26:57] Like, like that's, so like I totally gapped on like, on like that title until like then.

[01:27:04] So I'm, I'm now guessing that it was actually like a title, uh, even, even the title for this story, the unquiet past and present, um, is probably a reference to the fact that this is actually a flashback to, uh, for, uh, that she's something like remembering after we get that bit, the very end of the,

[01:27:20] last story where she sees this gem that, that she has a history with, like, well, now we're reading that history that she had with.

[01:27:28] But, but again, like I gapped when I was reading that story.

[01:27:31] Um, and, uh, and so like, I was expecting this to be a forward in time sequel rather than like a backward flashback prequel sequel kind of thing.

[01:27:41] Um, it didn't overall detract a lot from my experience of the story, but I did kind of feel like an idiot, although that's more on me than anything.

[01:27:49] I think, Oh, don't worry.

[01:27:51] I'm going to make you feel like more of an idiot or, or I'm going to, or I might make myself feel like an idiot, which I tend to do.

[01:27:57] So that's fine.

[01:27:59] We'll be idiots together.

[01:28:01] Hell yeah.

[01:28:02] Um, this isn't the same artifact at all.

[01:28:06] How do you know?

[01:28:07] Why?

[01:28:07] Because it said it was green.

[01:28:09] It was an emerald green artifact.

[01:28:11] That is true.

[01:28:12] The previous one.

[01:28:19] The image we get does not, it is not, it's a, it's a blue as far as I can tell.

[01:28:24] Yeah.

[01:28:25] Cause me reading this, I assumed that this entire entry was in regards, was going to explain why she went, Oh, I can't believe it came back to me.

[01:28:35] And then we go to a dream sequence of this happening flashback.

[01:28:39] Like, um, but then by the end, by the end, like a coin gets thrown out and then it's like, it's blue and it looks like an eye.

[01:28:46] Meanwhile, before it was just like a green little like emerald with nothing on it.

[01:28:50] Yeah.

[01:28:51] Yeah.

[01:28:52] My, my thing is like, cause like the disc, like the, the poker chip, like, uh, likes a description from the previous story.

[01:28:58] And this one's tiddly wink description.

[01:29:00] They're so fucking close.

[01:29:02] Like I thought like, it has to be a flashback, right?

[01:29:05] Like, okay.

[01:29:06] You know what it could be?

[01:29:07] It is a, it's a blue thing that looks like an iris.

[01:29:12] Yeah.

[01:29:13] That glows green.

[01:29:15] That might be it.

[01:29:16] Yeah.

[01:29:17] Cause the only color we got previously, unless I missed it is green in regards to this.

[01:29:22] It's just, it's a poker chip that glows green, which made me think it itself is green because why wouldn't it be?

[01:29:29] But I, I know.

[01:29:30] Magic.

[01:29:31] Yeah.

[01:29:32] I am rushing to the last, uh, uh, to the last chapter of the story just to see if we can get a, a glow on that thing.

[01:29:39] It doesn't look like a moth.

[01:29:40] It's more like an emerald.

[01:29:41] Looks more like an emerald, which means it's green.

[01:29:46] Right.

[01:29:46] Emerald don't glow like that.

[01:29:48] It's more like one of them Decker of glow in the dark glass or resin stones.

[01:29:53] Like a tiddly wing.

[01:29:55] No.

[01:29:59] Um, yeah, it's like a decorative glow in the dark glass or resin stone.

[01:30:02] Yeah.

[01:30:05] Is it?

[01:30:07] I like, I thought they wouldn't say it looks like an emerald if it was physically blue.

[01:30:13] Okay.

[01:30:14] They would say sapphire.

[01:30:15] So I even had like a bunch of notes that I removed because I was like, oh, I'm an idiot.

[01:30:19] This is not a prequel or not a, not a, a sequel sequel.

[01:30:22] It's a prequel sequel.

[01:30:24] Um, so like I had a whole thing.

[01:30:26] It was like, it's like, so like, did she just like, is this actually in the, like moving forward in time?

[01:30:30] Because like, it references like this, um, like that she lost her, her, her last journal to some like annoying otaku kid or something like that.

[01:30:39] Um, and she was in Safrasi on vacation, uh, previously in this story.

[01:30:43] So like, is that a reference to like her trip out to, um, S card, uh, from then?

[01:30:49] And like, I was even going to go, it's like, so did she actually just like say, fuck you to Dr. Akron and then like walk away and like leave like the island.

[01:30:59] But like also, um, cause I did do a little bit, I did like jump ahead a little bit just to, just to see, uh, about the next story.

[01:31:07] So like short hoggers.

[01:31:08] Um, and I did see Dr. Akron's name in the first couple of paragraphs of, of, of short hoggers.

[01:31:16] So like, that's what kind of made me wonder is like, oh, is this actually like a flat, this whole, the whole thing we've heard so far in this story, the unquiet past and present.

[01:31:25] Is it a flashback from that scene at the end of bookstore horror?

[01:31:31] Um, cause that's what it seemed like to me by the end of this story, but I only realized it until the end of the story when I was like, oh, it's the gem.

[01:31:41] Or is it?

[01:31:42] Maybe, uh.

[01:31:45] It might be something completely unrelated.

[01:31:47] And here's the other thing.

[01:31:48] Maybe like once you, uh, cause in the, in the previous story, um, uh, wow.

[01:31:53] Hang on.

[01:31:54] Well, a golden green brilliance with a shimmer, which, which shimmered like moonlight over a tropical bay.

[01:32:02] A lot of not blue I'm hearing.

[01:32:03] I mean, moonlit, moonlight over a tropical bay could be blue.

[01:32:07] No, it's shown like that.

[01:32:09] Okay.

[01:32:09] Yeah.

[01:32:10] Yeah.

[01:32:10] Here.

[01:32:11] Oh, hang on.

[01:32:13] Hang on.

[01:32:14] Hang on.

[01:32:14] As I watched the thing slowly illuminate the room with a, while the lively discussion continued,

[01:32:19] I could only stare in shock, unable to believe that this unholy relic would be finally coming back to me.

[01:32:28] So in the previous story, um, bookstore horror, that's, that's where this line is at the very end.

[01:32:33] And so it, it sounds like that, like we're, we're about to get like her, it, like I kind of interpreted this story that we've read.

[01:32:43] Um, the unpleasant quiet, uh, the, the unquiet, uh, uh, past and present as being a flashback because of that line at the end of, of bookstore horror.

[01:32:52] But I think it could also maybe be interpreted that this is like in the, like the, this happened after her vacation in bookstore horror.

[01:33:01] And, but like, it doesn't make any thematic sense.

[01:33:04] So there, if that's the case, like, like we, so we get no resolution from that line from the previous story.

[01:33:12] Yeah.

[01:33:13] Yeah.

[01:33:13] I like, uh, like, cause it really feel like, uh, I just, oh man.

[01:33:23] Also, my last bit of comment on this is that, um, what we now know what is kind of good an idea of what a spirit ally was, which he did reference in the previous story too.

[01:33:32] Um, but we never got a description for what a spirit ally was.

[01:33:36] Now we know it's some kind of like guardian spirit or like ghostly thing that like floats around her.

[01:33:41] That looks like an eyeball.

[01:33:43] Sort of like some kind of arcane, like security drone, uh, in a way.

[01:33:48] But, uh, yeah, that's my actual thoughts for, for chapter three.

[01:33:54] Yeah.

[01:33:54] And, uh, yeah, I still feel like an idiot.

[01:33:57] Yeah.

[01:34:00] Oh, I feel that this last chapter more ties into the other story that we had where someone came knocking on our door.

[01:34:13] Yeah.

[01:34:14] Well, yeah.

[01:34:14] The, the Ellie Lambert story.

[01:34:15] Yeah.

[01:34:16] Yeah.

[01:34:17] And, and we're, I think, well, the next, the next story we're covering is short hoggers.

[01:34:21] So we're going to do that as a two-parter because that's a very long story.

[01:34:24] Um, but Ellie Lambert, uh, has like the Ellie Lambert story is, is supposedly an earlier version of the short hogger story.

[01:34:32] So like, yeah, I, I get, I have a feeling that we're going to, we're going to be rereading a bunch of material from Ellie Lambert in short hoggers.

[01:34:40] So I, I think it's like, yeah, like, like, like, like you just said, like, I think this story kind of preps for that foreshadowing to that, to that event.

[01:34:50] Yeah.

[01:34:51] So basically we know that it's the hell lion at the door.

[01:34:55] Yeah.

[01:34:55] That's what we have, we have, we have, we have a name now for that shape-shifting thing that, um, that was like changing through like multiple things.

[01:35:02] If that even is still going to be a thing that, um, that it can do in the next story.

[01:35:07] Do we even know if that's the same creature?

[01:35:09] It, well, cause it, it, it, it, it came out of the gate, dropped the disc like thing into the sand and, and, and then went invisible of somehow to, um, to, and, and began stalking her all the way back to, to her home.

[01:35:24] So, yeah.

[01:35:25] So that's why I get the case of also maybe the hobgoblin, like the hobgoblin and the, and the, um, uh, the chirka, like they, they call it a hell line, but like, maybe that's just like a, like a slang term for what it is or something like that.

[01:35:38] Yeah.

[01:35:39] So possibly.

[01:35:39] Yeah.

[01:35:41] Um, yeah.

[01:35:42] But yeah, it's just like.

[01:35:44] It, well, and this could very well be, uh, the, uh, vampire scenario because he's flick something shiny onto the beach and waited and she's picking it up and bringing it into her home.

[01:36:08] Oh, like inviting it.

[01:36:10] Yes.

[01:36:11] Yeah.

[01:36:13] That, that could be something like that.

[01:36:15] Yeah.

[01:36:16] Um, also I'm just, I'm, again, I'm, I'm scouring like chapter two and chapter three, like near the end and stuff to see.

[01:36:24] Does, does it describe what the color of that, that disc is?

[01:36:28] Cause if that's the case, it could be a situation of like the image is not exactly what it's supposed to be.

[01:36:35] Does it, does it say blue in any of the descriptions of it?

[01:36:42] Um, walking to the edge of the beach, he took something shiny from his coat pocket and flicked it out onto the sand.

[01:36:50] Then he watched and waited.

[01:36:52] That's the end of chapter two, chapter three.

[01:36:54] Um, uh, out of the corner of her eye, she noticed Miss Tabitha pawing at something sparkly.

[01:37:00] Kes walked over and, uh, for a closer look.

[01:37:04] Um, she thought it was a piece of abalone shell, but looking more closely, she saw it was a crystal eye.

[01:37:14] What the hell is an abalone shell?

[01:37:15] What does that look like?

[01:37:17] I said, it's one thing I did not look up.

[01:37:19] Yeah.

[01:37:22] It's a blue shell.

[01:37:24] Is it?

[01:37:25] Okay.

[01:37:25] So, well, I mean, it's like, it's, it's, yeah, yeah.

[01:37:29] It's like oily water blue.

[01:37:31] Like there's some green in there.

[01:37:33] There's definitely some greens in there.

[01:37:36] It's still good.

[01:37:37] It's still good.

[01:37:38] Some of these are greenish, I guess.

[01:37:40] Yeah.

[01:37:40] I don't know.

[01:37:41] Um, but I'm then like double checking further, like, cause it starts glowing or like it's shining.

[01:37:47] Right.

[01:37:48] It doesn't, it doesn't glow when she has it.

[01:37:50] As far as I'm concerned.

[01:37:51] Uh, isn't it?

[01:37:52] Like she said, she calls it has much more radiance.

[01:37:55] Yeah.

[01:37:55] But this means literally glowing.

[01:37:57] Yeah.

[01:37:57] That's true.

[01:37:58] It's just like a radiant, like a shine to it.

[01:37:59] So like that could just be like the reflection.

[01:38:02] Um, yeah, it doesn't specifically aside from the abalone shell, it doesn't specifically

[01:38:07] call it blue.

[01:38:10] But then it also, but in the picture it says it shows clearly blue.

[01:38:14] That's also not like an image by M and Pratt.

[01:38:17] I don't think, I think it's actually pulled from something, but that's still pretty blue.

[01:38:23] Yeah.

[01:38:23] That's still pretty blue.

[01:38:25] If it's meant to be green, like I'll fricking hue shift that myself if I have to and offer

[01:38:30] it to you.

[01:38:31] Yeah.

[01:38:31] No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I mean, I am slightly colorblind in darker colors and that's coming

[01:38:35] off as blue to me.

[01:38:36] So.

[01:38:36] Oh, it's entirely blue.

[01:38:37] Yeah.

[01:38:38] Okay.

[01:38:38] Good.

[01:38:58] Maybe you're not about like.

[01:39:00] Let me calm your mind.

[01:39:02] Yeah.

[01:39:02] We're all idiots.

[01:39:04] I feel better.

[01:39:05] Okay, good.

[01:39:09] No, just to know that I'm not alone.

[01:39:11] Yeah.

[01:39:12] You're not an idiot.

[01:39:14] We're idiots.

[01:39:16] Yeah.

[01:39:18] Mike, he's just giggling.

[01:39:19] There's like, not me.

[01:39:19] Fuck you guys.

[01:39:21] Speak for yourself.

[01:39:22] Yeah.

[01:39:24] I didn't want to say anything.

[01:39:26] Yeah.

[01:39:27] and you know what fair entirely fair uh yeah mikey you can continue on

[01:39:37] that's into my actual thoughts okay gamer oh i already chimed in with my only thought here

[01:39:43] okay uh all right um then i suppose uh we'll move on to final thoughts

[01:39:50] so like i'm still going to partially recommend this for now because

[01:39:55] and the reason i'm doing this is because it still seems like this is part of a full narrative

[01:40:00] that we just haven't finished so i i feel it would be unfair to um uh to to give it a non-recommendation

[01:40:08] or or even a full recommendation without reading the rest of the contents

[01:40:12] um as far as that as far as this one goes i i do really like the the setting and the plot material

[01:40:17] and it seems to be cooking up or it seems to be cooking up something down for down the road

[01:40:25] um though that said i think this story could have been really improved by adding it to the previous

[01:40:34] story um honestly all of these stories that we've been reading from the last day of october should

[01:40:39] all been one big long story and with no screw you sir and the horse you rode in on that would be so long

[01:40:48] yeah no it's basically going to be a novella but like yeah that's fine like because like yeah

[01:40:53] like for us like on the show it is manageable as it is but i feel like if you were to take these

[01:41:00] stories and like publish them don't make them individual stories and make them individual chapters

[01:41:07] i see what you're saying yes to the story yeah so like yeah like or even like from a um from a

[01:41:12] like because if this had been posted like reddit in like reddit no sleep or like one of those

[01:41:16] those kind of like uh platforms this would be like basically like um uh last day of october

[01:41:24] part one through like 10 yeah or or so like that that's kind of what i'm getting at like these

[01:41:31] these feel more like part like like uh like multi-parters from a reddit no sleep story

[01:41:35] then um then individual stories that need to be read out of sequence that they shouldn't be read out

[01:41:43] of sequence right there because they all like they seem to be like all like kind of culminating

[01:41:48] to something to an overarching plot but they're all done in like they're all cut up into these

[01:41:53] individual stories and it sounds actually even in the comments when i was looking at uh through some

[01:41:57] of the comments below the story it seemed like they uh like uh em and pratt was like writing them

[01:42:03] every couple every month or so like from each other and then she would like post them so like these

[01:42:08] were actually it was kind of in again in the similar format to what like reddit no sleep

[01:42:13] uh authors do sometimes where they'll like write the first section of a story and then get some

[01:42:17] feedback and then write the next one or like or like just they want to they want to write this

[01:42:21] whole big long story but they only have part of it so they post part of it out first and then they

[01:42:25] do it in like a serialized kind of format yeah that's kind of what this story really kind of feels

[01:42:30] like it's like a serialized story that you need to follow along with and that's why it's under

[01:42:34] the uh they're all under the same title last day of october with these subtitles

[01:42:38] but like um when game developers release like betas and alphas for their games before they came

[01:42:44] so they can actually get some feedback before the the full release yeah um so yeah that's that's one

[01:42:51] thing it's like yeah it it definitely feels like this uh i'm only gonna give it a partial

[01:42:55] recommendation because like i do like what we what we got here i'm a little thrown off by like whether

[01:43:01] or not this is a flashback or like where the time continuity is in the story but yeah but um regardless

[01:43:07] of that i feel like yeah like i i can't give it a full like recommendation or like or a definitive

[01:43:13] recommendation here there until we've read the last story in this this series because it's sort of a

[01:43:20] serialized thing but on its own i'm still willing to partially recommend it because i like what we got

[01:43:25] here and the the continuity stuff aside it didn't detract too much from from what i uh from what i read

[01:43:31] um it's just some there's some there's some narrative formatting situations that bugged me

[01:43:35] again like the first person pov with the journal entry to the third person pov that bugged me a bit

[01:43:41] but the uh and the the accented like storytelling is really super immersive though that could be kind

[01:43:47] of divisive depending on the reader of like and even i noticed like i was getting tired like my voice

[01:43:53] was getting my my face is tired as i was uh as i was reading like reading it out like and like reading

[01:44:00] out these accented uh lines um but i still really enjoyed it so um i'm still here i'm still invested

[01:44:09] and i want to see how this plays out um but there are some issues with the story uh that that's here so

[01:44:17] that's that's my recommendation is i partially recommend it for now um mikey these stands for evil

[01:44:27] um okay so i actually didn't mind the last two chapters so

[01:44:42] with that said my issue is that the last two chapters are only about maybe 10 percent of the story

[01:44:57] and the majority of the story is in chapter one where we get the accented troll which to me

[01:45:07] detracted from the story especially when in some cases the well the troll basically says a bunch of

[01:45:16] stuff and then later we get uh kes's explanation of what was just said so did we really need

[01:45:24] the explanation with the accent yeah um again this it sort of boils down from what i was saying with the

[01:45:31] this this this could have all been like journal format from kes just kind of um uh paraphrasing

[01:45:39] what was was told to her uh even though i again even though like i liked the immersion thing i can see

[01:45:44] what you're saying with the uh like it's it's it's a lot that accent's a lot yeah yes and to me

[01:45:55] that really detracted from the story because if i was just reading this on my own i probably would have

[01:46:06] stopped before even getting to chapter two or three because that's how much the accent detracted for me

[01:46:17] yeah so with that in mind i am still not recommending this tough but fair

[01:46:25] uh gamer um so for me as far as i could tell like okay if the the coin the tiddly wink at the end is

[01:46:35] in fact green and that picture is just a lie then that's that's fine then because when i first read

[01:46:44] through this i saw the blue um pog at the end i was like so this entire story that i just read

[01:46:52] didn't answer any of the questions from the previous story it's adding more questions that's

[01:46:56] what i originally thought yeah not even considering the fact that the image could be wrong yeah because

[01:47:04] all the images for the story have been put in by m and pratt and half of them or more than half of

[01:47:11] um have been actually drawn so it's like that except for this story yes yeah this story is all photos

[01:47:21] it seems so yeah yes but because of my previous experience of like all of these photos are

[01:47:26] basically like that's the gospel truth of what it is yeah that's what this immediately made me think

[01:47:32] it is so but it might not be i don't know if the thing's blue i'm confused maybe there's another story

[01:47:38] after this that explains how it's blue but then it changes into this emerald color when it's evil maybe

[01:47:45] yeah maybe that's it maybe it changes when it's active versus dormant like yeah when it's dormant it's

[01:47:50] blue when it's act and it's when it's emerald when it's active um uh maybe maybe it's identical except

[01:47:56] for the color and that's what like brought what what she was like really focusing on maybe it's just

[01:48:01] the other side's green yeah yeah that's the one thing it does yeah just the one side's blue the

[01:48:06] other side's green that's it yeah i don't know but yeah well like as of with the previous story

[01:48:12] there's like four stories going on in here in one story and it jumps around a lot so it feels like

[01:48:18] kind of disjointed um that being said even with my previous recommendation of the previous story

[01:48:25] i feel like i'm not judging these fairly because what i'm doing when i go in to reading one of these

[01:48:33] i am reading it assuming it's going to be a scary or creepy story yeah and these aren't necessarily

[01:48:43] scary or creepy they're fun and interesting like whimsical uh stories yeah there are some like

[01:48:52] darker elements to them but 90 of it is light-hearted yeah this is definitely blending into

[01:49:00] like i like so there's a genre of like fairy tale that's like that goes into horror sometimes or has

[01:49:05] horror leanings and you're usually just called dark fairy tales um that's kind of what it's like dark

[01:49:11] fantasy this is kind of what that reminds me of like it's not quite horror because of all the

[01:49:16] whimsical stuff but there's horror elements in there and i say 90 of this is light-hearted meanwhile

[01:49:23] 90 of this was a troll telling uh a gurdon about a family that like was cursed and like their

[01:49:32] revenant bodies are killing people like yes that is still dark so my statements are wrong but you know

[01:49:39] what i mean oh and i forgot sorry i forgot to bring this up in my notes um so when i was looking at the

[01:49:43] other story i and reading this story uh we we find out about the four missing kids like those four brit

[01:49:50] kids they're referenced in the second story in the last story um that dr akron like uh when dr akron is

[01:49:57] talking about the uh the disappearances um specifically like uh with with uh with um uh that that little

[01:50:04] that i uh the ainsley girl um but then like early on in 19 in the 1940s there were four british kids

[01:50:11] that went missing that's right i think that's a reference to these four british kids that went

[01:50:16] missing in in uh madam mosley's story i guess yeah but yeah like so like so again if this is a flashback

[01:50:22] thing like this is she she's getting information from like she's getting information from multiple

[01:50:27] sources it kind of seems uh between the two stories or like kes is kes is actually gonna getting

[01:50:34] like she she is involved in this from various from various vectors but yeah i just want to bring that

[01:50:43] yeah sorry no good oh no it's just like yeah i just want to bring that up because like i i had meant

[01:50:48] to bring that up in my notes but i forgot about it so um and i discovered it yesterday when i last night

[01:50:53] when i was like going over the story and like listening to our last episode so so yeah like i was saying

[01:50:59] it's it's kind of unfair to me for me to judge this as if i'm gonna read this to be completely

[01:51:06] creeped out and scared because that is not the vibe that's being portrayed here yeah it is it's it's dark

[01:51:11] fantasy but it's not like it's not like dc levels of dark yeah it's yeah it's it's horror like adjacent

[01:51:21] like it's it's definitely like it belongs on creepos.wiki but it's oh for sure it's not a spooky like

[01:51:26] like horror story like uh it is a darker uh it is a darker tale of scary with some scary instances

[01:51:34] yeah and like through like reading all these i'm seeing like the amount of like

[01:51:41] care and passion there is in this world that's being developed especially like seeing all the

[01:51:47] additional art that was done to the previous yeah right the art that was done in the story itself

[01:51:53] was already way better than most do and then there's a whole bunch of additional stuff like

[01:51:57] that's great and it shows how much the author truly loves this whole setting yeah and like that's rubbing

[01:52:03] off on me the more i'm reading this and i'm realizing like i'm being a little unfair to it um that being

[01:52:10] said the story does jump around a bit yes like it's getting the information to us in less entries

[01:52:18] because it's jumping around but i almost kind of wish it would just do like the story that madame

[01:52:25] mosley said and then jump to something else in a different entry there'd be way more entries because

[01:52:30] each entry jumps at least two or three times but i don't know it would feel it would flow a little

[01:52:38] better for me i don't know i get you so yeah i'm gonna bump it up to a partial because i can't say i

[01:52:46] didn't recommend it because i can't recommend it because the story is at least enjoyable to see

[01:52:51] where it's going and i am interested to see if the next story will actually explain the gem a little

[01:52:58] bit better i hope it will maybe i hope that connection like i hope like like if dr akron's mentioned in

[01:53:04] the in the next paragraph i hope it's like cuts back to like the present of that period where it's

[01:53:08] like so you know about like so so what what have you heard about this this this uh you seem to have

[01:53:12] familiarity with this object and then like it goes and like yeah it was blue and now it's green thank

[01:53:16] you yeah damn done yeah well so what's interesting what is interesting about this is like so we were

[01:53:25] recommended um short hoggers and the ellie lambert story and stuff like that um by em and pratt and even

[01:53:33] in in in the uh little blurbs at the beginning of these entries um specifically because this was a

[01:53:38] spinoff series that referenced the fire witches um so i like and i think we thought the fire

[01:53:44] witches was that like glowy thing that like infested the one character in like the first entry

[01:53:49] are we ever gonna see those fire witches that again it's probably not is that i really want to go

[01:53:56] somewhere yeah or is that what is that what this the the hell lion is is that just another term for

[01:54:02] for the hell lion or the short hoggers is is the fire witch could be yeah so yeah the hell lion is

[01:54:10] the hell lion even the same thing as the tentacle thing that came out yeah that's that's that's what

[01:54:14] it was yeah i mean that's that's what i that's what i deduced was are you sure because i mean that's

[01:54:19] that was described in the area that was like grand central station and then cut to two kids hiding

[01:54:24] from something it's not necessarily the same creature it it may not be but that's what i deduced

[01:54:30] because of like we get that one scene where it comes out of the door and eats that guy it's that

[01:54:35] little like uh what is it called a that rat like thing uh yeah a little guy and then and then like

[01:54:41] and then we cut to like the next thing is like some friends are like walking down some halls after

[01:54:45] seeing some other friends and they hear something horrible coming up uh coming up toward them and

[01:54:49] they decide to go hide and it's this giant hulking thing that walks by uh and then it's like it's a

[01:54:54] hell lion and so all right so like i kind of attribute like one like transitioned over to the other

[01:54:59] like scene like yeah i mean and maybe i'm wrong maybe like a whole line could be literally like

[01:55:07] what's a hell hound it's a doggo yeah this could be a hellish kitty cat that walk around murdering

[01:55:13] people yeah but if that's the case why the fuck do we even bother with like talking about like

[01:55:18] that's my point that's like where the jumpiness comes from you know where it's like i don't really

[01:55:23] understand the connections to everything all the time yeah because like i i definitely i just kind of

[01:55:27] like connected them to like together to be like like oh that creature that ate that thing is the

[01:55:32] same one that's that's stalking through the halls in the next scene with the two with the two friends

[01:55:37] but like you're you're right it might not be the same thing but then like what was the fucking point

[01:55:44] um but yeah so but all in all you're still you're still giving you're you're changing over to a

[01:55:50] partial recommendation yeah because i am like enjoying the world that it's in i just it's not

[01:55:57] particularly scary it's more confusing even for the characters themselves yeah the past couple of

[01:56:05] entries kes has just been kind of bombarded with multiple scary stories and the inability to leave

[01:56:12] the ability the inability to get away from hearing all these scary stories one after another

[01:56:18] yeah so it feels like you guys sometimes they're kind of not yeah yeah it feels like some of you

[01:56:24] guys uh getting stuck reading uh certain creep pastas uh every and you can't get out of it because

[01:56:29] you're on the show exactly uh bueno but um but yeah i get you so um yeah i guess that'll that'll do it

[01:56:43] for this week's episode uh so um see you can change people's opinions wow how's it feel it's never

[01:56:52] gonna happen again oh well i felt good for a second i'm joking yeah or am i or am i um yeah so that'll

[01:57:02] be uh one non-recommendation and two partial recommendations um again like like you said

[01:57:09] like it's hard to like kind of judge some of these stories because they are all so connected to

[01:57:14] like like they're all like they're all parts of a whole that we haven't finished yet um but uh until

[01:57:21] all the answers are blah until all the questions are answered i can't really fully give a full

[01:57:28] recommendation for the entire story as a whole because there's so much stuff left in the air yeah

[01:57:33] exactly but we'll hopefully find out in the next two weeks uh we'll we'll hopefully we'll get a more

[01:57:41] concrete thing in the next two weeks because uh we're we're going on to the next one which is short

[01:57:46] hoggers um and it's a longer one than the last couple of have been so we're probably going to cut

[01:57:51] it into into a couple of uh into two parts um but yeah uh we'll we'll dive into that when we get there

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