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[00:00:08] Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis. I'm Review Cultist.
[00:00:22] I'm Mikey, the East-Hands Freeble.
[00:00:24] And we're here to discuss those internet stories, most creepy animals pasta, and be critically silly doing it.
[00:00:30] And tonight we have Ellie Lambert.
[00:00:33] So first off, yes, Gamer in Yellow is no longer with us.
[00:00:37] No, I'm just kidding.
[00:00:39] He's he's just not here this week, but he told us to press on.
[00:00:43] And so we will.
[00:00:44] But yeah, so we are we are covering Ellie Lambert, which is another Curtis Phil story.
[00:00:51] It is it is Curtis Phil adjacent
[00:00:54] since this is the story is titled Ellie Lambert, who is a character of note from the various Curtis Phil stories,
[00:01:03] specifically Summer Break and Summer Break 2017.
[00:01:06] And even our previous story that we just read, The Way Through the Woods.
[00:01:10] So the story Ellie Lambert is on Creepost.Wiki, along with all the other stories by M.M. Pratt 99.
[00:01:17] So you can check it out over there.
[00:01:20] But yeah, I guess we should give our initial recommendations before we dive into this.
[00:01:27] I'm going to recommend this one.
[00:01:29] I'm going to not recommend this one.
[00:01:33] Interesting.
[00:01:35] Well, let's let's see why we gave both are quite contrasting recommendations, starting with the rundown.
[00:01:45] So Kess, a safrasian, some kind of of Faye people, perhaps, who has recently become a new citizen to the town of Swanwick
[00:01:57] is attending a welcoming party slash midsummer ceremony in her honor at Town Hall and hanging out with her friend, Vanessa, the mayor's eldest daughter.
[00:02:07] The two are looking on at an awkward girl named Ellie Lambert, who is also new to town, hailing from America and staying with her aunt.
[00:02:17] Ellie is very awkward and strange.
[00:02:19] There are various unpleasant rumors about her and her circumstances.
[00:02:23] And for the most part she's sticking to the corner of the room and not interacting with anyone.
[00:02:30] And as the girls continue to spy upon her, the mayor herself pops up behind them, catching them on a wears.
[00:02:38] After a brief chat, the mayor looks over where Ellie was.
[00:02:41] But Kess notices she's not there anymore.
[00:02:44] And it's as though the mayor has seen a ghost before going off and getting ready for the final parts of the ceremony or the party.
[00:02:54] The party goes on with the full welcome speech from the mayor.
[00:02:58] And Kess and Vanessa eventually head outside shortly after to make a shift stage where a bunch of younger werewolves, imps, and fey
[00:03:09] are putting together a play of John Carpenter's The Thing, complete with flamethrower.
[00:03:16] Things get out of hand and Vanessa and her friends accidentally set a pavilion in some other places on fire.
[00:03:23] Getting them all in trouble.
[00:03:27] Later that night, Kess, who's now back at home in her little cottage with all her gifts from the party, including
[00:03:35] various new caged pets that were gifted to her, remnisses about the events of the evening and her past, especially in regards to this strange girl.
[00:03:46] Apparently one of the last times Kess saw Ellie Lambert that evening, the awkward girl seemed to change her form into a new person
[00:03:54] under the moonlight as she was walking around.
[00:03:57] And thinking on this,
[00:04:00] it dredges up some memories for Kess.
[00:04:04] It's here that Kess tells the story of her past and some stranger goings-on
[00:04:09] that had followed her to her new pets who seem
[00:04:14] eager to listen to her.
[00:04:19] Before coming to Swanwick, Kess had come to a city in a place called Merlia,
[00:04:25] called the Merlia United Kingdom,
[00:04:28] called West Des Moines New.
[00:04:31] After Kess and her people fled the destruction of their homeland of Safrasia.
[00:04:36] It's here that she caught news of various odd things like a person being
[00:04:42] a
[00:04:45] mortal, a fake creature being turned into a mortal as punishment for some killings they were doing.
[00:04:53] And eventually she becomes a server at a local tavern.
[00:04:58] While working there, she saw all kinds come in and out of the tavern, though the strangest and creepiest was at night.
[00:05:08] And only a few times a year,
[00:05:11] when this ghostly invisible thing would wander the streets nearby singing a strange wonky song.
[00:05:17] Folks called it short hoggers.
[00:05:21] One of Kess's associates tried to be an occult investigator and
[00:05:26] about the situation
[00:05:28] and got herself killed in the process.
[00:05:30] And things started to escalate from there.
[00:05:33] Kess left West Des Moines New
[00:05:36] to get away from the killings and it seemed that this thing, this short hoggers would follow her and kill others around her.
[00:05:46] Eventually she emigrated to Swanwick and we are now caught up to the present, but something is yet afoot.
[00:05:53] Something malicious and cold begins stalking over to Kess's cottage and taps and knocks on the door
[00:06:00] just as she is dozing off to sleep. In fact, she thinks that it's
[00:06:04] some local kids just trying to stir up trouble.
[00:06:09] But she goes to check the door and finds it's very cold outside the house. In fact, it's like ice cold, like almost like a fimble winter, as she remarks.
[00:06:21] And there's some arcane locking mechanism that has jammed blades and various like
[00:06:27] shipping rope
[00:06:30] against the doors to keep whatever's outside from getting in.
[00:06:35] That's when something sinister tries to imitate Vanessa's voice beckoning Kess to come outside
[00:06:41] and when that fails it then attempts to bash its way through the door.
[00:06:46] Kess quickly grabs an advanced rifle that she had smuggled into this country.
[00:06:52] This weapon was crafted by her people long ago and has since been banned for its power and lethality.
[00:07:00] She blasts through the door and slays the thing which begins cycling through different identities,
[00:07:08] like sort of begins shifting through different identities, both human and inhuman, including Ellie Lambert,
[00:07:15] before finally melting into a puddle of black sticky sludge.
[00:07:20] Kess frowns at this, her stalker, finally dead, seems,
[00:07:26] before starting work on repairing the door that she blew through, or that she blew a hole through.
[00:07:32] Finn. So yeah, that was the story of Ellie Lambert.
[00:07:41] And I suppose next we shall move on to
[00:07:45] everyone in Tolerance the Gramm-Inquisitions at this point.
[00:07:50] I've got a number, there's a good number of inquisition,
[00:07:56] quotes and such. I'm gonna start with this one here.
[00:08:03] Even her own cousin stand, or even her own cousin can't stand to be around her.
[00:08:08] The eldest one, Sandra, had already moved out and is now stalking or is now staying with friends
[00:08:15] up in Brandshell. So I feel like this is dialogue, but I feel like it should be
[00:08:23] even her own cousins can't stand to be around her. The eldest one, Sandra,
[00:08:30] because it mentions the eldest one so then therefore it wouldn't be her own,
[00:08:35] singular cousin, it should be multiple cousins.
[00:08:38] Yeah, that's fair. Then do you have anything about the double dash?
[00:08:45] Well, the double dash is actually, so I have seen that before and it's basically
[00:08:52] used for an ellipsis. It's sort of like that kind of thing that's used in writing.
[00:09:01] Okay. Yeah. Did you have something more on it or were you just like you didn't like it?
[00:09:07] I just didn't like it. Fair. I mean, you use ellipses already.
[00:09:15] Why use the double dash? Well, I actually did encounter that because like a couple years back
[00:09:20] when somebody was actually helping correct my own writing and stuff and suggested rather than
[00:09:25] using ellipses, use like a long dash or double dash. So yeah. Interesting.
[00:09:35] The next thing I have here, welcome to my tense talk.
[00:09:40] For a moment, just as the girl stepped into one of the moonlit patches, the whole shape of her face
[00:09:47] seems to have changed. So yeah, I think seems should actually be seemed to have changed
[00:09:54] since everything else was like kind of impass-tence. Again, welcome to my tense talk.
[00:10:02] The next one I have here, she could be anywhere,
[00:10:06] Kess or she could be anywhere. Kess thought normally if she could change her face like that,
[00:10:11] then she could look just about anyone. I think you need to have, she could look like just about
[00:10:18] anyone. Yeah. And my next one here, what I say wasn't a slovenly dressed girl with an empty
[00:10:28] face of a large baby. I think it should say what I saw wasn't a slovenly dressed girl with an empty
[00:10:35] bubble. Yeah. And the next one here, also I'd say that that would be dialogue but I think this
[00:10:44] was like when she was, when Kess was telling her story to her animal companions, her cage
[00:10:51] animal companions. So, and the way the story, like part of the story is done is it's done in that sort
[00:10:57] of dial where like the character is like telling a story like vocally through this in the story.
[00:11:05] So it has like a quotation at the front of the paragraph and then when it stops the paragraph
[00:11:09] it goes to the next one. It doesn't have an end quote because it's going to continue going
[00:11:12] like with the same like speech or the same dialogue. So it's technically dialogue but
[00:11:19] I mean it's also like an actual story so like they should have better grammar.
[00:11:26] But I'll move on to the next thing I have. Meanwhile, my roommate was having hysterics
[00:11:32] on the couch and I thinking, and I thinking to myself, oh great someone just caught with a bag
[00:11:38] of sparkle Frieza or brain boasters. So I think first off, and I'm thinking to myself
[00:11:48] and then also someone just got caught with a bag of sparkle Frieza, blah blah blah.
[00:11:58] Then the next thing I have. No, the weather forecast had said it would be a calm night
[00:12:06] with a bit of fog and there weren't any trees close enough to touch, to tough the
[00:12:13] and there weren't any trees close enough to tough the cottage. So I think it's mean it's supposed
[00:12:21] to be touch the cottage for this is when like the the tapping is happening on the on the cottage
[00:12:27] and Kess wakes up to it. And then on a more positive note, while while still like of a
[00:12:36] some nambulant Kess went into her bedroom and carefully fetched down her surprise.
[00:12:44] So some nambulant adjective resembling or characteristic of a sleepwalker sluggish.
[00:12:52] I learned a new word today. I was like what the hell is a some nambulant?
[00:12:57] Though I'm pretty sure she made up stilly. In that sentence.
[00:13:04] Stilly word quietly and with little movement. That's a word? Yep, I learned two words today.
[00:13:14] My god.
[00:13:18] Walking stilly like of a some nambulant. Wow, just doubling down on that description.
[00:13:32] All right, well that is the end of my grammar and position so Mikey your your inquisition
[00:13:38] is the torch.
[00:13:39] Hey, you got the one that I had so it's onto conjunction junction.
[00:13:44] All right. And next stop conjunction junction.
[00:13:48] It's not just me who notices this other people at school, my sisters and dad.
[00:13:57] It's because her aunt happened to be a very prominent business person was Vanessa's immediate
[00:14:04] answer. And she doesn't trust Ellie to be left alone in the same room with a purse or loan
[00:14:12] in a coach and certainly never in the house.
[00:14:17] But why send her here?
[00:14:20] Has exclaimed in disbelief.
[00:14:22] So when it does happen, it's actually cause for celebration.
[00:14:29] But Mayor Desroses or Desrosiers.
[00:14:36] I kind of went with this Rosie.
[00:14:38] Honestly, this Rosie.
[00:14:39] Okay.
[00:14:41] But Mayor Desrosier didn't notice it's just that I thought I saw someone or as Yoda would say
[00:14:52] the wee boo vibe is strong in this one.
[00:14:56] And when Vanessa asked if she wanted to come to a gothic theater production of a famous
[00:15:04] horror movie, Kessamie the accepted.
[00:15:08] It turned out the show was taking place in Vanessa's backyard.
[00:15:14] And it was a reinterpretation of John Carpenter's The Thing.
[00:15:22] It was like when the thing took over a body.
[00:15:26] It left just enough of the host consciousness so that the imitation still felt like the
[00:15:35] original.
[00:15:36] It all started back a few years ago.
[00:15:41] So unfriendly, superficial and self-absorbed.
[00:15:46] And I'm like what exactly what do you mean by a dog's life?
[00:15:55] It was the fat one who spoke up next.
[00:15:59] But that Van De Vru girl looks feeble-minded.
[00:16:07] But, but I swear I just saw it was starting to be a pretty good place to live.
[00:16:20] Although I still didn't like Des Moilles new.
[00:16:24] But on miserable wet nights, when the streets were generally deserted,
[00:16:32] something would wander near the apartment complex and sing in this flummy burble.
[00:16:39] It seemed a mild mannered spook and most of the residents along that particular street were used to it.
[00:16:47] Treating it as a trifling nightly inconvenience.
[00:16:52] Even going so far as accepting it as a rather eccentric member of the neighborhood.
[00:17:02] But as the weeks went by, I eventually got used to it.
[00:17:07] So when everyone was out at a movie one Halloween night, she called that something in.
[00:17:16] Something that she thought was a lost child.
[00:17:22] But a person just can't keep quiet about that sort of thing.
[00:17:27] But that wasn't why I left Marilia.
[00:17:32] Kes went on slowly.
[00:17:35] It would always leave in the morning and all the wicker wood or
[00:17:41] or coaches would all be soaked in black oily slime.
[00:17:50] Unfit for anything but the bonfire.
[00:17:54] But I felt it was all worth it after my harrowing experience in West Des Moilles new.
[00:18:04] But it wasn't about an illegal substance.
[00:18:09] It was about my roommate seeing the short hoggers.
[00:18:15] And when she finally told us the story, a shiver of cold horror ran through me.
[00:18:23] It was squirming and twisting around in a chair, she stammered.
[00:18:28] But I ran back inside and locked the door.
[00:18:34] Its face, it was like the Wiccan girl that got killed a year back in West Des Moilles new.
[00:18:45] And yet it wasn't.
[00:18:48] And I knew there was something hiding behind it.
[00:18:54] Something even more terrible.
[00:18:56] So that everyone in my story and I know nothing more than what I just experienced.
[00:19:08] And I don't want to know anymore.
[00:19:12] It was close to midnight when Kes awoke.
[00:19:17] It had to have been an animal then.
[00:19:23] Maybe even a bat or an owl brushing up against the glass.
[00:19:29] It's like Fibylwinter in here.
[00:19:32] It's me.
[00:19:34] It's cold.
[00:19:36] It's late.
[00:19:37] It's 12am.
[00:19:39] But while the blades put on the display were just inert metal,
[00:19:46] the ones dug deep around the door were of a completely different nature.
[00:19:53] It was a saffrazion made rifle, a room temperature superconducting Langston
[00:20:05] with a telescopic scope and a carbon fiber barrel to be exact.
[00:20:12] But no sooner did that unpleasant thought enter her mind than she quickly shut it out.
[00:20:21] Finn.
[00:20:21] Finn.
[00:20:23] Finn.
[00:20:25] So from what I got of that, from what I gathered from your conjecture there,
[00:20:32] narratively it seemed like right off the hop, again they were talking about this weird girl
[00:20:38] and then she became, and then she was invited to a party, to a goth party.
[00:20:42] And then she chased something and started attacking and then basically just started
[00:20:46] chasing this person all across places until eventually she got put down.
[00:20:50] She got confronted with it and then she used her gun on it.
[00:20:58] But we don't really get the ending of whether or not she dealt with it or not,
[00:21:03] just that she had that gun and things were happening.
[00:21:09] Basically a little bit linear cut version of a rundown.
[00:21:16] But I suppose that's what happens when you start sentences with words that they probably
[00:21:21] shouldn't like it sends her butts because there's always better words to use, I guess.
[00:21:28] I don't know, I don't usually do this.
[00:21:33] Though not bad for like for saying that off the cuff without any, without that being written
[00:21:37] down. Yeah.
[00:21:40] But yeah, so I guess we'll move on since we are down a grammar in yellow.
[00:21:45] Two actual thoughts.
[00:21:48] So I'm gonna start with this one here.
[00:21:50] Her name's Ellie Lambert and she's from California, the state of Jefferson to be exact.
[00:21:55] Wait, the state of Jefferson?
[00:21:58] My American geography is a bit rusty but I'm pretty sure that Jefferson
[00:22:02] isn't among the 50 United States of America and she's from there and also from California.
[00:22:11] So this brought me down a little bit of a rabbit hole googling Jefferson state.
[00:22:17] Yeah.
[00:22:18] So according to Wikipedia, which there's a whole article about it,
[00:22:21] I'll just like give this a little bit of it, the state of Jefferson was a publicity stunt
[00:22:25] organized in 1935 by disaffected residents of Southern Oregon and Northern California
[00:22:34] who were concerned that Salem and Sacramento were ignoring their region's needs.
[00:22:42] So yeah, there's a whole Wikipedia article that goes into it.
[00:22:46] There's a lot more history to it than that but that's basically just of it.
[00:22:48] It was like a publicity stunt to try and raise awareness for like support for the area that they were
[00:22:55] that they were suggesting the state of Jefferson happened.
[00:22:59] I just thought that was interesting.
[00:23:00] It's like, huh?
[00:23:01] But in this also in this world of these stories, is there actually a state of
[00:23:06] Jefferson between Oregon and California now?
[00:23:11] Because that's going to be a running theme through my store.
[00:23:14] My notes here.
[00:23:19] The setting, locations.
[00:23:24] So just be prepared for that.
[00:23:26] I had to look up the state of Jefferson to go, okay, so this is an alternate reality type.
[00:23:33] Yeah.
[00:23:35] I'm guessing that yeah, like we kind of already knew that this was kind of an
[00:23:39] alternate reality because like there are magical beings living among humanity.
[00:23:46] So yeah, it was sort of but yeah, like it's definitely seems like there's
[00:23:51] definitely we're seeing more of the world alterations in this in these stories as we go.
[00:23:57] But I move on to the next thing I have here.
[00:24:01] Unlike Kess who rather was baffled and somewhat flattered by the party thrown in her honor,
[00:24:07] Vanessa thought that the occasion was a total waste of her teenage time.
[00:24:11] And she had way better things to do in Vanessa's case attending a Motley Crue concert
[00:24:17] with all her friends.
[00:24:18] Oh, so Vanessa, you know, like from the summer camp 2017 story, like the wrap around bit.
[00:24:24] And as it turns out, we finally get some clarification about her connection with
[00:24:28] the mayor in that at the end of that wrap up story or that wrap up plot where she is
[00:24:33] the mayor's eldest daughter even.
[00:24:35] So this may give us a bit more context to the previous story we had with Vanessa,
[00:24:41] at least part of it.
[00:24:43] And we do kind of get like a little bit more like this seems to be like
[00:24:45] I think this is a prequel.
[00:24:47] If I remember correctly from M.M. Pratt's comment on YouTube that when she sent this,
[00:24:53] this guy's I believe she sent some of these stories to us as a link.
[00:24:58] But yeah, so I thought that was interesting.
[00:25:00] They're like, oh good, we're finally getting some more character like development
[00:25:02] in some context to like some characters that we've we've heard of in previous stories
[00:25:06] would have been nice if we had a little bit of that context in the other story.
[00:25:08] But it is what it is.
[00:25:11] And the next thing I have here is another geography issue or another
[00:25:14] another geography question.
[00:25:18] But why send her here?
[00:25:20] Kess exclaimed in disbelief.
[00:25:22] Can't she get therapy back in the States?
[00:25:24] The Republic of the Americas pretty much sucks at the whole mental health thing.
[00:25:28] Vanessa replied pointedly.
[00:25:31] Oh, so this isn't in the States.
[00:25:35] First off, like Swanwick is not in the States.
[00:25:37] It's actually in like I'm guessing it's in the UK.
[00:25:41] Just based on the poshness of the upper crust that we see in these some of these characters
[00:25:46] and the town's names being like Brunchel and Swanwick and stuff like that.
[00:25:53] It still seems to be in the Curtisville universe because we have Ellie Lambert here.
[00:25:58] It's just on the other side of the pond as it were.
[00:26:02] Also, the Republic of America and I apparently like looking up that term,
[00:26:07] it is actually a term used for the US.
[00:26:11] So that was I just I've rarely heard it.
[00:26:14] So like heard it said that way.
[00:26:16] So it just it comes off as alternative like reality when you do stuff like that.
[00:26:22] But yeah, but it is reality because the US is a republic.
[00:26:27] So yeah, yeah, I actually looked at like the Republic of the Americas
[00:26:30] and was like, oh, no, turns out that is actually a thing.
[00:26:33] Okay.
[00:26:34] It's just an uncommon use of like an uncommon term for the for the USA.
[00:26:40] Yeah, but and then also it like at this point in the story,
[00:26:43] like we're getting like again conversations with the characters and they're talked about like
[00:26:46] things like the Tour de Fairey and like other things like that.
[00:26:51] And I was like, oh good.
[00:26:51] It's nice to know that we're getting some more of that magical realism that I love in these stories.
[00:26:55] And it comes a lot and it just comes into full force later on in the story specifically.
[00:27:00] And then the next thing I have here that night,
[00:27:03] Kess stood at the window of her new house or Heron Manor as it was known,
[00:27:10] peering into the shadowy Swanwick Forest.
[00:27:13] So I'm noticing a theme of this town, Swanwick, Heron Manor.
[00:27:19] Is there a Stork Creek?
[00:27:21] A duck pond?
[00:27:24] Or a duck bridge?
[00:27:30] Also just putting something together from again the previous story that we just we covered last week
[00:27:37] the Way Through the Woods.
[00:27:39] I'm just tossing this out here, but I wonder if this town is the place Judith saw Lucille
[00:27:46] pass over into from like that portal that she made in the alleyway in the Way Through the Woods
[00:27:54] background story we got.
[00:27:56] Where the character describes seeing a city through the portal that reminded Judith of the
[00:28:02] Scottish capital of Edinburgh with its steep streets and tall gloomy buildings.
[00:28:10] Just because like that's kind of like, I mean not every town in the UK or in that part of the
[00:28:17] neck of the woods is like cobbled streets and gloomy buildings, but I mean they're pretty
[00:28:21] close. They've got that vibe about them, they got that architecture and like that old world
[00:28:26] architecture and such to it. So yeah just had me wondering if like this was the place that
[00:28:32] she was going to especially since there is a connection we know between a Ellie and Lucille.
[00:28:37] So like was this where she was going or like somewhere near this place or like maybe
[00:28:42] to West Des Moines, perhaps.
[00:28:46] But I'll move on to the next thing I have here.
[00:28:48] You would think more people would be moving here on account of the gift giving and hospitality,
[00:28:53] she wondered. Maybe I got this VIP treatment because my arrival happened to coincide with
[00:28:59] the annual Midsummer Eve tradition. So I'm still left wondering at this point if the
[00:29:07] whole world is influenced by fantastical denizens walking among us or if this is
[00:29:13] or if it's just these little towns that are like dotting the world and that are just like safe
[00:29:19] ports for like creatures from other realities in other places that just kind of like live among
[00:29:23] the population or the human population or like live among us kind of thing. Like is this a
[00:29:28] situation, is this a shatter run situation or is this like a storybrook or fable situation
[00:29:33] where like it's magical creatures living among us in secret in small towns or small colonies
[00:29:40] and stuff like that. Kind of like in the sense of like yeah, like I said like storybrook from like
[00:29:46] once upon a time or the community in fable or for you Mikey, like Eureka, like except instead
[00:29:55] of like high tech people it's fairies and magical creatures or is this a full shatter run situation
[00:30:01] where like it's an alternate reality of our world where like this is just commonplace?
[00:30:08] It's an alternate reality. Yeah, I'm getting that more and more especially what happens later
[00:30:13] from a description that we get later in the story which I will bring up. I can bring it up now I guess
[00:30:22] with the quote here hang on where is my notes there?
[00:30:27] Yeah so this is this might kind of like touch me I'm not sure if this is what you're
[00:30:32] referencing but this is what I was thinking. Tattered clouds scutted past the closest moon
[00:30:37] and gray banks of fog rolled in from the Chudderheim channel. I'm sorry the closest moon?
[00:30:45] Is Swanwick on earth or is this another reality? I have so many questions.
[00:30:51] Well the quote that I have is in regard to the smuggling of the gun. Had this happened in
[00:31:00] human dominated Midgard instead, you would have not only being detected by the numerous
[00:31:08] security devices but promptly whisked away and placed in a holding cell somewhere.
[00:31:13] So that confirms it does not happen on earth. Except for this though too like because then
[00:31:20] we get things like this. This is another quote I have. I ended up moving to a house in East
[00:31:26] Dolwitcher with five others in it. I was and this is when she left West Des Moines New which we know
[00:31:34] is in the Merlion United Kingdom. I was to share a room with a chatty Aussie exchange student
[00:31:43] and the privilege would cost me about 550 pounds per month but I felt it was all worth it after
[00:31:53] my harrowing experience in West Des Moines New. So yeah it definitely doesn't seem like we're in the
[00:31:59] mundane world or Midgard because I guess that's the term for the mortal world by these creatures and
[00:32:05] beings but it does seem like at least like for me I'm still trying to figure out where Swanwick
[00:32:10] is like is it in Merlia somewhere or like is it is it like on like some threshold like threshold
[00:32:17] between like our like the mortal world and um and uh and these magical worlds because like
[00:32:26] it's it definitely feels like this area this this these locations are heavily inspired by the British
[00:32:30] Isles so like London and stuff like that like Des Moines like West Des Moines New
[00:32:34] way it was described kind of felt like London to me. Yeah so the way I see it is that it's
[00:32:42] more Midgard adjacent so like yeah an alternate reality where the land masses are the same but
[00:32:54] things are slightly different and you can transfer to our reality at some point if you want. Yeah but
[00:33:03] it's basically the very world separate from the human world. Yeah and I mean it seems like a
[00:33:11] lot of this stuff is like um MMPrap may be pulling from a lot of like fairy folklore which
[00:33:15] does give credence to this because um I know from from like digging into like Vossen and
[00:33:20] and other like fairy lore and folklore um there are like countless like different fairy worlds
[00:33:25] and like fairy lands and realms that are accessible to from our real world like through
[00:33:32] um uh through like gateways and openings that uh some people sometimes you can just
[00:33:36] slip into by accident like they they make it really it's actually fairly easy so it's kind of
[00:33:41] bleeds into our world sometimes um but it is an alternate reality that's just kind of parallel
[00:33:46] to our own it's just like slightly to the side. Yeah um yeah and I really do enjoy the story
[00:33:52] like because again we get things like um uh she's she goes to East Dolwitscher well Dolwitsch or
[00:33:58] Dolitsch um because it's English is an actual place in London so it's clear that like they're
[00:34:04] pulling names from like real world UK while making this like kind of fantasy fantastical version of
[00:34:11] it because we also like she's like reading newspapers like oh like she's reading a newspaper at one point
[00:34:15] with um about like some some creature some uh some individual that gets like um gets uh sentenced
[00:34:23] to become immortal and live out the rest of their days as a mortal for like a few decades
[00:34:29] and me talking to some goblins like this is kind of pulling into that like that goblin market that we
[00:34:35] read in in summer break um and so yeah I it makes me want like I'm just um I'm starting over the
[00:34:44] course of the story I started getting a kind of a feel for like the setting but I was like kind of
[00:34:48] have to I've had to meander through it to figure out like where exactly things were like where
[00:34:53] where are we in situationally um and uh I don't hate it but it's just like it was a little confusing
[00:35:01] at times because trying to figure out like all right it's one week in the real world and it's
[00:35:05] like Curtisville where there's just like there's people there's creatures among us or is this
[00:35:10] in some alternate reality that's just adjacent to ours and like they can go to the real world
[00:35:15] but like it's not the real world or it's not it's not the mortal world it's it's its own
[00:35:19] little dimension um so yeah that was that was sort of my point there for um like as I was navigating
[00:35:27] through the story I was trying to figure out where we were and what was going on
[00:35:32] like I got I got a strong sense of what was going on through the story
[00:35:36] but I was trying to figure where is where is it going on in is what I kept asking
[00:35:41] like question wise yeah uh and then the next thing I have uh you you kind of you brought this up in
[00:35:53] your uh your conjunction direction but I'm going to use the full quote okay uh Vanessa wouldn't go into
[00:35:58] specific details about the incident that caused her to totally reject Ellie's friendship except
[00:36:04] that except to say that it's it nearly ruined her middle school reputation and further cemented
[00:36:10] her hatred for the anime genre and its numerous fandoms a hardcore otaku then cast thought with a
[00:36:17] grimace or as Yoda would say the weeaboo vibe is strong with this one or strong in this one
[00:36:25] I love how there's I love how they're scoffing at this girl for being like a nerdy fan of anime
[00:36:32] um when they themselves seem to be quoting nerdy stuff like Star Wars and Spielberg films like
[00:36:39] with references like y'all are a bunch of fuck yeah now on that point I'm pretty sure it's actually
[00:36:50] Darth Vader who says the force is strong with this one not Yoda but like I had to look that up
[00:36:56] because like I was like because I see like online a lot of people attribute that line with Yoda
[00:37:01] but like even to the point of like it's like on like uh like t-shirts with Yoda's face saying
[00:37:07] it or like on like people it's like decorations for people's walls that have like a photo like an
[00:37:12] image of Yoda and then that like on next to it I was like but that's a Darth Vader line
[00:37:20] yeah also we know if Yoda was the one to say it it would be like strong in the force or strong
[00:37:26] like uh strong with the force uh or um this one is yeah it is yeah yeah yeah
[00:37:35] strong with the force this one is yeah because of his whole like um kind of reverse speech
[00:37:42] yeah but um yeah there's my own nerdiness coming through but like we all knew that already
[00:37:48] yeah but I mean when it comes to star wars uh there's a lot of things that are misquoted like the whole
[00:37:58] Luke I am your father he never actually says Luke yeah that's a Mandela effect yeah yeah so
[00:38:07] it's one of those things where I was like oh yeah I can see Yoda saying this and yeah he would
[00:38:17] like a kind of um attitude toward Ellie's fandom uh I mean I also kind of get that too because like
[00:38:24] really weird hardcore otaku like anime fans out there that kind of ruin it for the rest of us
[00:38:33] so like I do kind of get that like if she's like that kind of person like that like and we kind
[00:38:37] of know Ellie from like previous stories like how weird and awkward she is as well
[00:38:43] So like I can kind of get that she's one of the more toxic fans or like the more obsessive
[00:38:48] Otaku fans or anime fans. So but at the same time again, like y'all are a bunch of nerds
[00:38:53] Don't don't don't berate her for for being a nerd
[00:38:58] Well, they're nerds just different nerds
[00:39:01] Yeah, and they're also teenagers like teenagers are going to do this unfortunately like this kind of life
[00:39:06] Kind of judging and stuff like that. Yeah
[00:39:10] So the next thing here so this is like
[00:39:14] just after like
[00:39:17] Ellie was like or not Ellie. Um, Kes was was
[00:39:22] Speculating about Ellie like being this weird shape-shifting thing and stuff like that
[00:39:26] And then we get this description as they as Vanessa and Ellie or Vanessa and Kesko out back
[00:39:32] Where the kids are sitting with this like play kind of thing
[00:39:35] Watching a bunch of Goths pay homage to the golden age of be rated horror movies. Hey
[00:39:41] John Carpenter is the thing is not a be rated horror movie motherfuckers
[00:39:47] They triggered you
[00:39:56] Accompanied with a heavy dose of hardcore techno and fake gore
[00:40:00] Seemed preferable to waiting around to be eaten by some shape-shifting monster
[00:40:05] It turned out the show was taking place in Vanessa's backyard and it was a reinterpretation of John Carpenter's the thing
[00:40:13] Oh the irony
[00:40:17] Like like she's dealing with like she's like speculating about like Ellie being this like shape-shifting monster thing
[00:40:22] And then it just turns out like the friend of Vanessa's friends are like setting up a makeshift play of John Carpenter's the thing
[00:40:30] Movie about shape-shifting monsters. It's a nice touch for like the allegory of what's going on in the situation
[00:40:38] Especially actually by the end like the story like this by the end of the story like the the creature the this the short hogger or whatever
[00:40:45] But that was was hunting down
[00:40:46] Kes and like she gunned it down. It was shape-shifting and constantly changing kind of like a thing monster so
[00:40:54] Hmm
[00:40:56] The next thing here
[00:40:58] Her mind was teeming with images from hours earlier the corrugated iron and scrap wood
[00:41:05] Arrange or the the corrugated iron and scrap wood arrangement
[00:41:08] That was supposed to resemble an Antarctic research station
[00:41:13] The werewolves died to resemble sled dogs the imps and spriggins
[00:41:18] animating the mechanical monster parts the actors rushing around rushing about heroically in corpse paint and
[00:41:26] Cold weather gear the whole setup the whole set going up in flames
[00:41:32] That would have met with John Carpenter's approval
[00:41:36] There it is in full blast
[00:41:38] Magical realism or fantastically mundane kind of vibes werewolves and imps and other magical beings performing a play
[00:41:46] Based off of a 80s horror an 80 70s horror movie series
[00:41:51] I love it like I was here for this like we are just completely going is like
[00:41:56] Yeah, though they've got werewolves so they're gonna be the sled dogs that turn to the thing
[00:42:01] The imps and spriggins are using their their magic to like animate like various things and stuff like that
[00:42:07] It's just like and they're just all a bunch of kids basically like re re redoing or like
[00:42:14] Retelling the story of John Carpenter's the thing. It says like it's it's just so
[00:42:19] whimsical to me this idea of like
[00:42:22] These magical creatures these these magical creature youngsters
[00:42:27] Like playing around with with with mortal pop culture, I just I just love that kind of that kind of aesthetic
[00:42:37] But I'll move on to the next thing here
[00:42:42] Her new roommates paused in their noisy wrestling to listen and offer up the occasional chirp and squeak
[00:42:49] I think I might have even I think I might have even seen a ghost
[00:42:53] She went on and you know what I've even seen that face before the countless small beasts
[00:43:00] Seized their comments as they all waited patiently for what she had to say
[00:43:06] This is suddenly be this this part suddenly became like a Disney princess scene where like all the little critters being attentive to Kess
[00:43:14] And like seemingly it'd be intelligent enough to like understand her like again
[00:43:18] They don't talk English but they like they seem to be reacting to her and responding to her in a in an intelligent way
[00:43:25] Yeah
[00:43:26] Yeah, I think this is the point or close to the point where she falls asleep
[00:43:32] Yeah
[00:43:34] Because there is no there's no mention of her actually falling asleep just that she wakes up later
[00:43:39] Yeah, she's slowly dozing off as she's like reminiscing and telling the story of her of her background
[00:43:45] kind of thing. Yeah, and I mean we get the the story of
[00:43:49] the
[00:43:51] The thing yeah reenactment and then once the animals start sort of
[00:43:58] Joining in that's was like, okay. She's falling asleep
[00:44:02] Yeah, yeah the way that it's either it's either again
[00:44:05] We're it wouldn't put me back
[00:44:07] It wouldn't I wouldn't put a past the story like the setting though if they were actually like
[00:44:11] semi intelligent creatures that were like paying attention to their their their new
[00:44:17] their new owner
[00:44:21] Because that's kind of thing that happens in fantasy sometimes is like they're like your animals are usually pretty intelligent and responsive
[00:44:29] Yeah
[00:44:31] But yeah, and then the next thing I have here is again just sort of a description of like
[00:44:37] Again something I really enjoyed about the story and also kind of gives us a little bit more
[00:44:41] idea about
[00:44:43] Where Kess is from and like what where we are and like in regards to like
[00:44:47] The fantasy world and then this and then it's relation to Midgard
[00:44:52] Which I guess is the term for the mortal world of of Curtisville
[00:44:58] Which makes sense because Midgard
[00:45:01] mythologically is the Norse name for
[00:45:05] For for earth
[00:45:07] Like where humans live and dwell on some of that in Norse mythology like that's Midgard
[00:45:13] And then there's like other realities and other places
[00:45:16] Where other magical creatures or other beings exist in the
[00:45:22] All within like Iqdrasil the world tree cast stuff
[00:45:26] So we're getting more of a taste of like the cosmology through this series
[00:45:29] Oh, we're getting more of a taste of like the cosmology of the
[00:45:33] Of the worlds of that the Curtisville stories seem to be taking place in we're getting a little more of that in this
[00:45:40] But I'll go with the quote here. I have
[00:45:43] 18 months later. I had nearly forgotten the supermarket incident
[00:45:47] I had a new job waiting tables at this tea and coffee tavern
[00:45:53] The landlord finally got around to repairing the apartment house and
[00:45:58] Evicting of the animal freeloaders a few of my roomies even started up a backyard community garden
[00:46:05] It was starting to be a pretty good place to live although I still didn't like demoyle new
[00:46:11] Then autumn rolled around and with its lengthening chilly nights and thick fog
[00:46:17] Along with the weird wildlife you tend to expect with the closing season
[00:46:23] spectral hounds blue and green goblin cats
[00:46:27] multi-tailed foxes pipe smoking drogger ghost pirates and sailors on shore leave
[00:46:34] people with detachable heads
[00:46:37] Various boogeymen coming over and borrowing the lawn furniture and party lanterns
[00:46:42] This is giving me like so
[00:46:45] First off, this is very D&D vibes
[00:46:46] But also this is like when I started reading this part. It was like this is really like this is some serious
[00:46:52] Miyazaki specifically spirited away
[00:46:56] like vibes
[00:46:58] Like just like again like this this kind of slice of life
[00:47:02] fantasy world
[00:47:05] Like and I love the use of like a tea and coffee tavern
[00:47:10] Like it's not an ale how it's not like an alehouse tavern. It's like it's basically it's a coffee shop in a fantasy world
[00:47:18] and
[00:47:19] Again, like the use of like there's a supermarket in this fantasy world as well
[00:47:25] and then like apparently like as like the season closes we get like they start seeing more and more these like
[00:47:30] More more more like kind of like Halloween-esque inhabitants showing up like with spectral hounds and and draw pipe smoking drogger and
[00:47:39] And boogeymen showing up to like borrow the lawn furniture and some party lanterns
[00:47:44] Like I just I love the the fantasy vibes
[00:47:48] mixed in with like
[00:47:50] like kind of mundane society and like
[00:47:54] Like everyday walk of life kind of stuff. It just really really fills me up and
[00:47:59] It was sort of priming me for the next thing I had here in this story
[00:48:03] with with this quote
[00:48:06] Poor Joanne she was always boasting constantly about her great magical abilities
[00:48:12] She claimed to have even vanquished a nest of shadow demons that normally would never have defeat have been defeated
[00:48:19] By just one person
[00:48:20] She actually thought she was on par with the greatest human spellcasters in history
[00:48:26] Instead of just being a trust fund hippie wick and wannabe
[00:48:31] So when everyone was out at a movie on halloween night, she called that something in
[00:48:38] Something that she thought was a lost child
[00:48:42] The
[00:48:43] Mikey do you do you when you were reading the story?
[00:48:45] Did you also get like feel like you wanted to like play or run a
[00:48:50] A more slice of life urban fantasy game of dnd after this
[00:48:55] Or is that just me?
[00:48:57] That's just you
[00:49:00] Life like dnd game now like this kind of thing like maybe maybe set it in like one less dies
[00:49:06] dat world setting
[00:49:09] And and have like dnd fantasy shenanigans
[00:49:13] With modern amenities like supermarkets and movie theaters and stuff like that and and like coffee taverns
[00:49:21] Sort of like that tv adaptation of terry pratchett's the watch where like
[00:49:25] It's it's the it's the disc world like onk morc pork fantasy like world of disc world
[00:49:31] But they're they've added like
[00:49:33] Like the build some of the buildings and even like some some of the technology is kind of like is very reminiscent of like of like
[00:49:39] modern-day
[00:49:41] uh society
[00:49:42] Though it still has like a bit of a fantasy flair because like the the instead of electricity it's like
[00:49:47] They're they have like it's like the clacks
[00:49:50] So it's like telegraph systems and like the the CTR system that they have is actually just like
[00:49:56] Inside of camera inside of camera boxes
[00:49:58] painting
[00:50:00] frames every like second
[00:50:04] Like that again bad realism, uh basically or like that kind of uh fantastical whimsy
[00:50:11] um mundanity
[00:50:13] Yeah, I just uh like I don't want to run it. I don't want to run it like super high stakes epic fantasy
[00:50:20] I just want to run like an a street level urban fantasy with some occult horror
[00:50:25] That's that's what I want
[00:50:26] I want to run
[00:50:30] Like this was giving me those kind of vibes like so hardcore and I was like here for it
[00:50:35] So the next thing I have here um as we're as we're getting closer to the end of the story
[00:50:39] So we're done like the uh
[00:50:41] Her her telling and her dozing off and then she's waking up to the uh the thing outside
[00:50:46] Um, so we got this her spine tingled as her hair rose on end
[00:50:51] Instinctively she took several steps back and as she did she heard a voice call out from the other side of the door
[00:50:58] It's me venessa. Let me in it's cold venessa despite the cold kes started walking toward the door
[00:51:05] What are you doing? It's late
[00:51:07] And I was just like as soon as I heard that they got to this part in the scene and so I was like wow
[00:51:12] to quote the internet
[00:51:14] This is an obvious fey trap
[00:51:21] I've I've seen enough apalachian trail or apalachian like folklore videos to know that this is a clear like
[00:51:28] Do not go near the door. Do not go near the windows
[00:51:31] That's how they get you
[00:51:32] When they when you start hearing your friend's voice outside and you know, and it's like really late and you know that your friend probably isn't out there
[00:51:40] That's not your friend out there. That's something trying to get you
[00:51:45] And then
[00:51:47] Also, I do want to bring this up so like
[00:51:49] Uh, I don't have a quote for but I just realized it. Yeah, so when she gets to the door
[00:51:53] She finds that like a bunch of the blades are like digging into the into the um
[00:51:57] Uh
[00:51:58] Into the into the doorway and so and she goes to the back door and it's been like
[00:52:02] Something there's like some ropes and like um, like ship rope like ship rope of paraphernalia that's been like
[00:52:08] Lashed against the door and when I when I it wasn't till like the the back door scene that I got
[00:52:13] That I didn't there because I when I first saw the blades like stuck in the door
[00:52:17] I thought it was like oh shit. She's like something bad has happened to her like like something is
[00:52:22] I thought I didn't realize it was a bad. It was a good thing. Like I didn't really it was like beneficial to her
[00:52:26] I thought it was like something bad for her but suddenly these blades were animated in the house
[00:52:32] Um
[00:52:33] And it wasn't until I was brought up a little bit later that like oh, it's like some kind of arcane law
[00:52:37] Because I was like, oh, so it was actually tried like that. It was like some spell put on her cottage
[00:52:41] To to keep her safe from things outside
[00:52:44] I said
[00:52:45] But it took a while for me to realize that so
[00:52:49] Um, because the way I think it was described it felt more like it was like something bad or like something unexpected
[00:52:55] um for even from her and then it and then like later she real
[00:52:58] She realizes in the story
[00:53:01] Clarifying to us that it was actually like a safety mechanism or some kind of security system
[00:53:05] but
[00:53:09] Again, I'll move on to the next thing I have here unless you had something about that mickey
[00:53:15] Uh, no
[00:53:16] No, it's uh, basically to protect against pirate ghosts. Yes clearly. Yeah pirate ghosts and sailors
[00:53:26] Yeah, I mean they're a rambunctious a rambunctious bunch so I understand
[00:53:33] Um
[00:53:34] But I'll move on to the next thing here. Uh, I'm gonna say sorry mickey in advance
[00:53:39] For for what my comments are going to be for this one
[00:53:42] Okay, um
[00:53:44] Uh, it was a sephracean made rifle a room temperature superconducting langston with a telescopic scope and a carbon fiber barrel to be exact
[00:53:54] This weapon had been wrought centuries ago not by the yotar or the dwarves or even the nearly extinct
[00:54:02] ingue
[00:54:03] But by kes's own people the most diligent and talented of the mech of the mecanicians or mechanish
[00:54:12] Machanicians
[00:54:13] The mechanitions
[00:54:17] Mechanicians
[00:54:19] Uh against such powerful weapons
[00:54:23] Foes both human and non-human stood no chance
[00:54:26] In an effort to secure universal peace
[00:54:29] The langston rifle along with the other techno hands
[00:54:33] Our techno hands weaponry were banned from the mortal and free folk territories
[00:54:40] This is truly moving into suddenly shadow run territory
[00:54:46] Now you understand why oh, I said why I apologized in advance
[00:54:50] Yes, like banned advanced weaponry and supernatural beings of fay of fay living and walking among mortal folk and and whatnot
[00:55:01] um
[00:55:02] or or like this like
[00:55:04] Even if you take like there is a part of the shadow run universe where like you could go to like tirna nog
[00:55:10] Like there's like an alternative setting in the in the shadow runs set around game
[00:55:14] um
[00:55:15] Where you can go to like tirna nog and actually deal with like fairy court like situation and bureaucracy and
[00:55:21] And stuff like that in that meta plane because like that's the other thing like the in shadow run
[00:55:26] They have like meta planes which are basically the alternate realities of like all these fantastical places and such
[00:55:31] That you can like translate over to depending on like how you're getting there
[00:55:34] um
[00:55:35] And for the most part you can't bring your own weapon your your weapons translate to something more like similar to that location
[00:55:41] But sometimes you can bring like advanced weapons into those regions
[00:55:46] Uh, and they still like are your weapons from like the modern high tech era
[00:55:52] um
[00:55:53] But yeah, so this is definitely getting that kind of like vibe of like just like shout like high technology and fantasy
[00:55:58] and low fantasy
[00:56:00] Or like or like high technology with like fa fairy folk and and uh and supernatural aspects very shadow run to me
[00:56:08] um
[00:56:08] Also fun fact
[00:56:10] I love the use of the of mortal and free folk territories because
[00:56:15] Free folk is another term for creatures and people of the of fairy
[00:56:19] Like it's another term for the fairy folk or the fae and stuff like that
[00:56:23] um
[00:56:25] so
[00:56:26] So
[00:56:27] Yeah, I guess this also confirms exactly what kes was um or like what what her people were uh to a degree because like
[00:56:33] That was something i've also been wondering since the beginning like she's not doesn't she she appears not to be human
[00:56:39] and she's she's seracean but like
[00:56:42] Or sephracean, but like I wasn't sure what that was
[00:56:48] I I feel like we could have gotten a little bit more of a description of what a sephracean looks like
[00:56:53] um
[00:56:53] um
[00:56:54] To be a little bit more that's the other thing like the story like goes in all this world building of like kind of like
[00:56:59] It's sort of natural world building like through the context of like the story, but we or like through the dialogue and through the um through uh
[00:57:06] some descriptions, but like
[00:57:08] Unfortunately because it's done that way
[00:57:10] We don't get like full like kind of elaborations on what certain things are because we don't have a layman
[00:57:15] In the story to like for people to have to explain something to
[00:57:19] So we're just kind of like us as a reader are kind of left to be like left to wonder or like to have speculate exactly
[00:57:25] What certain things are and what they are and what things are in and it's like it's not necessarily a bad thing but like
[00:57:31] It just
[00:57:32] I feel like there could have been some more clarification through the story
[00:57:35] um for like what certain
[00:57:38] places and people were
[00:57:41] um
[00:57:43] But yeah again
[00:57:45] She I love how she just like she was smuggling this this like illegal high advanced weapon that can kill
[00:57:51] both humans and fey
[00:57:54] it's just
[00:57:55] Suddenly reminded of that scene from the lost in space movie. It's like
[00:57:58] uh, we're like the guy the the the one like
[00:58:01] security guys just like
[00:58:03] Reassembling his gun is like the monsters are coming through the door and like like doing that bad ass turn with the gun
[00:58:09] And just starts like shooting through the door
[00:58:12] um
[00:58:13] It definitely kind of felt like suddenly it like shifted gears as like
[00:58:18] Uh, she was prepared because she smuggled this advanced weapon that could kill anything
[00:58:25] Um, which I guess to a point does kind of take away from some of the um
[00:58:30] The the dread at the end because it suddenly becomes more of a thriller
[00:58:34] Um as she is able to just like like I have a surprise
[00:58:38] A giant lethal gun bang
[00:58:42] Take that like take that elder tore
[00:58:48] But
[00:58:50] I'll move on to the last thing here, which is actually the destruction of the death of that creature
[00:58:55] um
[00:58:56] coughing and sputtering she quickly covered her nose as
[00:59:01] Or yeah, she quickly covered her nose and pushed past the shattered door
[00:59:07] And then fixed her eyes on what lay before her in the middle of the yard tattered and torn
[00:59:12] besmirched with gore and black slime
[00:59:16] slowly
[00:59:16] It began transforming before her widened eye widening eyes
[00:59:22] Clarissa van der ver van devourer
[00:59:26] Clarissa van de vero
[00:59:28] Ali Lambert the nameless frog-like girl and then a twisted myriad of other forms human and non-human
[00:59:37] Some she hardly recognized
[00:59:39] Then there was nothing left of it
[00:59:41] But the sticky
[00:59:43] But a sticky blackish patch on the dewy moonlit grass
[00:59:48] frowning
[00:59:49] Kess went to repair the door
[00:59:51] So I found this very interesting when we finally get the reveal of the
[00:59:56] seemingly slain
[00:59:57] creature this this this thing
[01:00:00] So she was be so it makes suddenly this part of the story kind of makes sense because
[01:00:05] So she was being hunted or stalked by this thing the whole time like when she went to new
[01:00:11] Or to west the well new
[01:00:13] Um, she seemed to have tagged her and started like basically following her following her
[01:00:17] And so she emigrated to swan wick which seemed to be far away from those places
[01:00:22] Things she might be safe and then it showed up anyway
[01:00:25] um
[01:00:27] And she was finally able to deal with it um and put it down
[01:00:31] um
[01:00:32] I I feel like this story on its own works like though um a little bit more clarification on like the setting might help for me
[01:00:40] Um
[01:00:41] It is stated right off the hop of the in an author's note in the on the wiki that this is an earlier
[01:00:47] an early standalone version of a story that was later developed as part of a series of stories known as the last day of summer
[01:00:56] um
[01:00:58] and
[01:00:59] While it does also have connections to
[01:01:02] previous Kurzfeld stories like ellie lambert for example here who who
[01:01:08] died
[01:01:10] Um, I think in like the mayors like near the mayor's house
[01:01:15] In the wraparound plot of summer break 2017
[01:01:19] Um, and yeah in 2017 they le dies in her bed when she
[01:01:25] Was doing some kind of dark magics by like projecting her consciousness
[01:01:30] uh fourth and transforming it into a phantasmal monster that gets shot
[01:01:35] and that kill
[01:01:37] That kills her remotely in the process
[01:01:40] and
[01:01:41] That happened again, like I said that happened near or like at least near the mayor's estate in swan wick
[01:01:47] with venezia present
[01:01:49] So now i'm wondering and probably guessing at this point
[01:01:54] That kes was our narrator in the summer break 2017 wraparound plot
[01:02:01] Um, she's the only she's the one like what like I think like maybe this was supposed to be that phantasm that like that was
[01:02:08] That was uh that ellie was projecting but then like
[01:02:14] It it's sort of odd because like so ellie has known about this all along
[01:02:19] Like or ellie was ellie was basically hunting her down like from back and
[01:02:24] from from uh
[01:02:26] From earlier like when she was dealing with the horrible with the um
[01:02:31] uh when when she was like dealing with this stuff in in uh, uh
[01:02:34] Because it's all taking place in the fantasy world right like in this merlia united kingdom
[01:02:39] and um and like
[01:02:42] Was yeah, was this mom was this short hogger's creature
[01:02:46] Was that ellie lambritz like mind projecting into that reality? Like there's there's a bunch of questions we get
[01:02:52] if if you go down that that train of thought of like like
[01:02:56] If you're connecting this to another story, um, and maybe you're not supposed to
[01:03:01] um, but
[01:03:03] I just feel like maybe the story was
[01:03:06] Maybe this maybe some of that will get developed more in the
[01:03:10] newer version of the story which is the last day in the last day of october series, which we are going to be covering
[01:03:15] Next week and onward
[01:03:17] until the last day of october
[01:03:20] um
[01:03:22] But yeah as a as in terms of a um
[01:03:25] Uh a standalone story. I do think it works on its own because we kind of get like a beginning middle and end
[01:03:32] um
[01:03:33] Like we get the introduction to the characters
[01:03:35] We get a middle part that gives us like kind of the background of what's been going on and like what the situation is
[01:03:40] And then we have a conclusion here where um, we're kess is able to put down what was stalking her and hunting her down
[01:03:46] from her from her background
[01:03:49] um
[01:03:52] But again, uh because I because I know um ahead of time that this is like
[01:03:56] Part this is the there's going to be another version of the story that is part of
[01:04:01] um
[01:04:02] Of another series of stories and it's tied to the Kurdishville stories that we've been reading
[01:04:08] I'm left kind of wondering like what all the I have so many questions about like what's going on exactly
[01:04:13] And like i'm trying to add like connect dots
[01:04:17] Um, and i'm not sure if that's like a good thing to do at the moment. Um
[01:04:23] Because the story the story that we're reading today is is a standalone versus
[01:04:29] What's gonna come next?
[01:04:31] um
[01:04:33] But I think I think it does do well
[01:04:37] Um as a standalone. I think is what i'm trying to get at here is uh in terms of being a standalone story. It works well
[01:04:44] um
[01:04:46] Though I could it could use some more clarification on certain things if it's going to be a standalone like so that you don't have to like
[01:04:52] Worry about reading other stories if if that that was the original intent
[01:04:57] um
[01:04:58] And uh, hopefully the the version we end up reading as part of the last days of october series
[01:05:04] Maybe like fill in some of those gaps or at least like helps tie it together once we've read the other stories that came before it in the series
[01:05:11] um
[01:05:11] But we will we'll have to see I guess so
[01:05:15] Um, that is finally my actual thoughts the end of my actual thoughts
[01:05:20] So mikey he stands for evil. I'm sorry if I took so long
[01:05:24] Uh, you may get fine
[01:05:26] What do you have left?
[01:05:30] Well
[01:05:31] The first thing
[01:05:33] Is in regards to the title?
[01:05:36] Yep, so it's called ellie lambor
[01:05:41] Yet
[01:05:42] She's barely in the story at all. I mean she
[01:05:47] She you're right
[01:05:48] But also she is kind of a key figure in that
[01:05:51] Like the ellie lambor that was at the party at the beginning of the story was the monster
[01:05:57] Yeah, yeah, we get that but it
[01:05:59] Takes so long to get to that
[01:06:02] It does take a little while
[01:06:05] Um
[01:06:06] But it is an interesting reveal at the end he was like oh like yeah this creature that she blasted like starts shifting through different like
[01:06:11] Faces including ellie lambor
[01:06:13] Um, but it could have also been like Clarissa vandevro. Um or like
[01:06:19] uh
[01:06:20] Yeah, what do you have any title suggestions for this one?
[01:06:23] um
[01:06:25] well
[01:06:28] Kess's welcoming party
[01:06:30] Yeah, actually that would that actually sounds like yeah, that would be a good one. Yeah
[01:06:37] Like because it's all about kess and
[01:06:42] Her going to a new town and having a welcome party. Yeah, so
[01:06:47] Hell even just welcome party good would be a good one. Yeah
[01:06:51] Yeah, welcoming party uh, yeah kess is welcoming party
[01:06:57] um
[01:06:58] Do you have any other suggestions?
[01:07:02] Uh
[01:07:03] No, that's
[01:07:05] Okay, that's good enough
[01:07:07] All right, and then
[01:07:15] My next issue
[01:07:19] Which is apparently a running issue with mm pratt stories
[01:07:25] Is stories within stories?
[01:07:28] Yes, but I mean it's it's not a bad thing. It's not a running issue. Yeah, it's just not
[01:07:34] That bad. It's just it's
[01:07:38] I feel like it's getting a bit tired
[01:07:41] For me anyway having read so many of these stories
[01:07:44] You know, oh, yeah, this seems to be like this. This is maybe a part of um of uh mm pratt's writing style
[01:07:52] Yeah, um
[01:07:54] and then
[01:07:56] My other issue is the transitions
[01:08:00] Yeah, as I always seem to have issues with transitions or they're lack thereof
[01:08:05] like
[01:08:07] that there's no
[01:08:09] um
[01:08:10] sleep transition which I mean
[01:08:13] That is sort of okay, but
[01:08:17] Like she stays in bed
[01:08:19] for such a long time
[01:08:22] That you wonder how much of this is just her mind going off and on tangents
[01:08:29] Yeah, because he's trying to sleep
[01:08:31] Yeah
[01:08:32] Well, I think that's part of the point of that part of the of it is it slowly kind of transitioning from like
[01:08:36] Her telling these the story or recalling these stories and it's slowly slipping into dream
[01:08:41] And then like getting a little bit more of like the memory skewed and such
[01:08:43] Yeah
[01:08:44] So when we get to the section with the what goblins or whatever like that's very much a dream like sequins
[01:08:54] Yeah, but it's also a memory. This is the kind of thing that would happen in a movie or tv show
[01:08:59] It's it's kind of it's kind of written like a tv show scene where like a character like
[01:09:04] Uh after like a situation that's happened in a movie in the in the present day
[01:09:07] They they go off to sleep and they like we get them like slipping away into sleep
[01:09:12] And then it cuts to a flashback like that's kind of how I saw it was it was
[01:09:16] Sort of like as they're falling asleep
[01:09:18] We cut away to a flashback of their past where we get more context to their
[01:09:23] Their their previous situations
[01:09:26] Like we see that in tv shows all the time and in movies
[01:09:29] um
[01:09:30] Yeah, but yeah like the the way it was written
[01:09:33] Like it maybe could have like been a little bit more clarified on that in terms of like a
[01:09:36] Transitionary thing I did actually think that the uh transition from like the uh the shenanigans with the the the thing play
[01:09:44] And uh and her suddenly being back at her college. I actually thought that was a pretty safe uh transition
[01:09:49] Like that was a pretty good transition
[01:09:51] um
[01:09:51] Like at first I was like wondering if it needed all the fours on the line
[01:09:54] But then as I like I read it over a couple times. It was like, oh, this is actually pretty good
[01:09:58] Like this is like it states that like sometime later that night. Um, like she's back at her cottage
[01:10:04] And uh, she's uh, she's going over the all our gifts and stuff like that. So
[01:10:11] but yeah, I guess I guess the dream sequence can could feel like, um, it's
[01:10:16] Sort of becoming more of a dream and less memories, but
[01:10:20] I think the the the
[01:10:22] I I think the um the purpose of it was just really to have like a flashback to
[01:10:28] Uh, Kess's past
[01:10:31] Yeah, kind of to kind of catch us the reader up on on what has been going on in her life
[01:10:37] Okay, it just
[01:10:39] I just didn't like the transition. All right. That's fair. Anyway, uh,
[01:10:45] So so now for some um connective tissues time because we gotta do that, you know, yeah, of course
[01:10:52] uh
[01:10:53] Kess thoughtfully sipped her glass of lemonade as she discreetly studied the strange guest in the clamorous town hall
[01:11:02] While I was reading the story
[01:11:04] I was sipping lemonade
[01:11:06] Wow, nice
[01:11:09] Well, I was missing a a guest in your house
[01:11:20] So
[01:11:20] It turns out your brother or somebody was just like that's a friend over or had a friend over is like, I don't trust this person
[01:11:32] Well, there's multiple times where she sipped lemonade and I was like, uh, it's a good time to sedemone
[01:11:37] Oh, so it was it was actually that like it was a it was more of a suggestion like a um
[01:11:42] Was the a form of suggestion. It's like it's like
[01:11:45] Your uh, like the story's talking is like the character was getting hungry. It's like I could really go for a bite right now actually
[01:11:51] As you're reading it
[01:11:53] Yeah
[01:11:55] And I already had lemonade with an arms reach so it's like, okay
[01:11:59] Yeah, or it's like what's something or like
[01:12:01] Yeah, like sipping lemonade sipping coffee and then you start taking a sip of your own coffee as you're reading the story
[01:12:05] It's like the power of suggestion
[01:12:08] Mm-hmm
[01:12:10] Did we just like have a conversation about that in one of our other episodes with uh, I think it was the eighth orphan
[01:12:18] Where that that's where we're talking about the power of suggestion
[01:12:21] Yeah
[01:12:23] Yeah
[01:12:26] So it seems like you aren't immune to the power of suggestion there, uh, Mikey
[01:12:36] So
[01:12:37] That's the end of my actual thoughts
[01:12:42] And although there's one more thing. Yeah, one more thing about it
[01:12:47] One more thing. Um the art
[01:12:50] Oh, yeah, you're right. There is a there is a piece of art in the story. Uh, yeah
[01:12:55] um
[01:12:57] And the issue I uh, you have an issue with it. Okay
[01:13:01] Is that uh
[01:13:04] It describes her as having ridiculously short page boy style hair
[01:13:10] Yeah, I noticed that too. Yeah
[01:13:14] Well the picture does not have short hair
[01:13:16] Yeah, and this doesn't really look like, um
[01:13:22] The description of her transformation, right? Like oh no, it kind of does it does it fit her transformation like when she uh, when
[01:13:29] um
[01:13:30] When kiss sees her in the moonlight
[01:13:33] Uh, well there is no description in the moonlight. Is there I thought there was hang on. Let me double check that. Um
[01:13:39] It just says it transforms and changes shape between multiple forms. No, no, that's that's the end though, right?
[01:13:46] Yeah, uh, no, but like there's a part I thought that yeah hanging. Um,
[01:13:50] Yeah, there's there's a yeah, so her
[01:13:53] Hang on where we go here for a moment
[01:13:55] Just as the girl stepped into the one of the moon
[01:13:57] Uh, oh yeah
[01:13:58] For a moment just as the girl stepped into one of the moonlight patches
[01:14:02] The whole shape of her face seemed to have changed her tight
[01:14:06] Her tight buster brown curls
[01:14:10] Grew law grew loose and dark
[01:14:13] Uh while her cherubim her cherub features grew pimply cheeked and dough faced
[01:14:20] The oh this is like it's become that the bulging frog face girl. Um, this is what just becoming into
[01:14:28] Yeah, I wonder was this is this is this supposed to be a picture of ellie?
[01:14:31] Or is this supposed to be a picture maybe of of uh, not finessa, but um, uh, or casp
[01:14:36] It maybe it's a picture of kes or it could be a picture of that. Um, clarrissa
[01:14:41] Uh individual, um
[01:14:43] And it's hard to say but yeah, I at the beginning it's describing ellie lambart
[01:14:49] And then you have this picture and you go. Yeah, that doesn't work
[01:14:52] No, you're you're absolutely right. Unfortunately like it does like
[01:14:56] She she does have um
[01:14:58] Uh large pale blue eyes
[01:15:01] Yeah, rather we don't we don't see her oversized ears. Um, her nose isn't really pink button nose
[01:15:09] um
[01:15:11] She doesn't have short. She absolutely does not have short page boy style hair in the story
[01:15:17] Um, it is some bleach straw kind of are you it's it or I guess it's a kind of blonde
[01:15:23] Yeah, um
[01:15:24] and she wore
[01:15:27] Uh
[01:15:28] She always wore pretty yet impractical looking dresses
[01:15:31] So and she kind of looks like she's wearing like a pretty dress or something like that
[01:15:34] I don't know. Although we just get the color bit of it
[01:15:37] Um, yeah, it's it's kind of odd like I wonder if like maybe that should be altered
[01:15:44] To more fit the description of the of the illustration because I mean this illustration is by mm prat, um like yeah
[01:15:50] So maybe this was like an earlier version or like a later version of the of the image
[01:15:55] Uh, or before like the description in the story. I don't know like
[01:15:59] That is what what is a page boy style haircut? I need to get a visual of that
[01:16:04] Okay, it's um, so actually it's a uh, it's not too far off actually
[01:16:10] Her ridiculously short. I mean it like if it's ridiculously short
[01:16:14] It is more of like kind of like a not a pixie cut, but it's like
[01:16:18] It's like a sort of yeah, it's almost like a
[01:16:20] It's almost like a like it's almost like a short bob cut or a bowl cut. Uh, or like a longer bowl cut
[01:16:26] Which doesn't match the style in the picture. No, I mean I'm seeing someone
[01:16:30] I'm seeing some of them that are long like the longer ones look more like the one in the image
[01:16:35] But like it specifically says shortened page boy style cut so
[01:16:41] Um
[01:16:42] Yeah, it it's not exactly translating well
[01:16:45] It's a cool image like art wise like like visually it's really it's a really good picture
[01:16:50] But it doesn't fit the description of the character that was it's described in the story
[01:16:56] At least not to a T
[01:17:01] Um, this is definitely a case of like
[01:17:04] There was some like the story came like either the story or the image came out first
[01:17:08] And then the the uh the other thing came out after and like there was some creative liberties done
[01:17:15] Some some alterations that weren't corrected
[01:17:19] Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right. So now I'm doing a special class
[01:17:23] Okay
[01:17:25] Well on two final thoughts then
[01:17:28] I'm I'm still gonna recommend it. I do do really enjoy
[01:17:31] I did really enjoy the story and I was able to follow through the story for the most part
[01:17:36] um
[01:17:37] I I really love all the fantasy elements of it and like the later horror aspects with the spectral monster this this
[01:17:44] thing like trying to get into her into her cottage and and the um
[01:17:48] Even in her backstory like the the strange thing that was uh
[01:17:52] Trailing her it seemed
[01:17:54] Um, I've been I've been using the term magical realism a lot throughout these uh,
[01:18:00] m m m prat stories
[01:18:02] um
[01:18:03] But also the term whimsical horror kind of comes to mind as well like sort of like it's it's it's it is horror aesthetic
[01:18:11] Uh with like werewolves and vampires and spriggins and emp and imps
[01:18:15] But like they're all living together in like a town. So it's sort of like you remember that like family that family channel disney channel
[01:18:23] uh, like mini series or movies um, halloween town
[01:18:29] Where like it's it's a town in another reality in like a slightly like just an offshoot of our reality
[01:18:35] Where all the halloween
[01:18:37] Monsters go when halloween is done like they only show up in in the real in the mundane in the mortal world
[01:18:43] When when it's halloween, but when when halloween is over they all go to this town and live there for the rest of the year
[01:18:49] Oh, okay. Yeah, it it starts with like a basically a fan like like these three siblings
[01:18:55] um find out that they were they're actually like they're actually descended from witches
[01:19:00] And the the oldest one like needs to go to halloween town and start her witch training
[01:19:04] Otherwise she'll lose her her magic for other but her mother
[01:19:07] Didn't who left halloween town for the mortal world like didn't doesn't want her her kids learning about halloween town or being a
[01:19:15] witch
[01:19:16] And like that kind of has a fight with her with her with the grandmother about the whole situation because the grandmother wants
[01:19:21] To bring the kid the grandkids into halloween town and such
[01:19:24] um, but it's like it's how like it's all these like spooky monsters and like or like like
[01:19:28] Cyclops and werewolves and and vampires and skeletons and some of that
[01:19:31] But they're all nice like they're all like just jovial and like like everyday like people
[01:19:36] It kind of gave me like that kind of uh, like it kind of brought me back to that
[01:19:41] Kind of a aspect of like a whimsical horror where like it's there's horror themings and there's horror like aesthetic
[01:19:48] But it's whimsical in its way as well
[01:19:51] With the the mundane slice of life kind of aspects to it
[01:19:55] um
[01:19:55] I do feel like I get lost like like I've said earlier
[01:19:58] I do feel like I got lost in the weeds in spots with the story
[01:20:03] because
[01:20:03] I was trying to figure out what the setting was because like
[01:20:07] And part of that might be on me because I was immediately thinking that this was like the uk
[01:20:13] and and like and like the in the real world not the maybe not the uk in some fantasy adjacent world
[01:20:20] But also because we have ellie lambert who we know and it seems to be
[01:20:25] Well at first it seems to be the same ellie lambert from curtisfill, but maybe it isn't maybe it's like maybe kelly
[01:20:32] Maybe it's like ellie lambert's dead and this things took its took her face
[01:20:36] or like
[01:20:38] Maybe this wasn't ellie lamb I don't like again i got i'm getting caught in the weeds
[01:20:41] I think because of the other stories that we've read in this
[01:20:45] by this author um and she's yeah
[01:20:48] Yeah, or or maybe it
[01:20:51] Is ellie lambert, but it's her consciousness
[01:20:55] Controlling the monster and then the monster gets killed
[01:20:58] Well, yeah, and that's that's what i'm thinking like i'm thinking that that's
[01:21:01] Oh, so you're saying like it's not like that like this isn't her her monster mind projected
[01:21:07] This is this monster uh was like possessed by ellie lambert's possession or uh or projection
[01:21:16] So yeah, like because that's the thing like i'm trying like it felt like this was sort of like
[01:21:21] What happened right before the wraparound plot of summer break 2017?
[01:21:26] Like in my head and that's because i've read summer break 2017
[01:21:30] And we were going into these stories expecting to get how to find some connections between them
[01:21:35] Because some of them were prologue some of them were side up were side stories or spin-offs
[01:21:40] That had a couple of characters from previous stories and such like that
[01:21:43] Like we kind of went into this into these stories with that mentality
[01:21:48] So i'm not sure if i'm stuck in the weeds because of the setting
[01:21:52] Because of my own personal like biases from like previous stories that we've been covering and like my own like kind of um
[01:21:59] Uh pre-collections or pre-elections of going into this story
[01:22:04] um
[01:22:06] I again, I do think this story as it is as a standalone works for the most part
[01:22:10] It just needs some clarification maybe some clarification on the on the on the world
[01:22:15] um
[01:22:16] I do like that the the the because like even though we need some clarification
[01:22:20] At least i need some clarification on certain things in the story to make it a little bit better
[01:22:25] um, I do like the way information is given to us in the world setting
[01:22:29] um because it's all done through character point of view
[01:22:32] And it we don't have necessarily have a layman to like have to be explain things
[01:22:37] But that's not a bad thing like it's just sort of sometimes makes things a little bit harder for a reager to
[01:22:43] Get the full grasp of where they are in the story or in the setting
[01:22:48] um, but for the most part I think uh the story is
[01:22:53] Pretty good at building up this world that we we're seeing this like this whimsical
[01:22:58] fantasy world that has like modern amenities like supermarkets and movie theaters and
[01:23:03] John Carpenter's the thing and motley crew and
[01:23:07] But there's but there's apparently more than one moon in the sky and uh
[01:23:12] And like they they know of the mortal world as midgard
[01:23:15] Like that's where humans come from
[01:23:17] And like this is some kind of like diverging or either either some kind of threshold world or
[01:23:22] That's like on the like just neighboring our own reality that they can occasionally like slip into and sort of that
[01:23:30] um
[01:23:31] And I mean again like they know about america like because ellie lambart's uh, uh seems to be a human from from
[01:23:37] The from californ they know what california is so like it's it's very interesting. It's like yeah, like
[01:23:43] They're aware of the mortal world
[01:23:46] But this is not the more it doesn't seem to be the mortal world
[01:23:49] So like i'm i'm proud if you're if you're listening to this at this point if you've made it this far
[01:23:55] Sorry and thank you
[01:23:59] I wouldn't mind some maybe some clarification or even some recommendations from some of your other stories that do clarify
[01:24:05] Exactly this sort of setting
[01:24:07] But the the sort of cosmology you've created because I am genuinely fascinated with that
[01:24:11] um
[01:24:12] Also, do you have a nate some of that we brought up off recording me and me and gamer
[01:24:17] um
[01:24:19] Do you have like a name for this series? We've been calling it them the curtisville stories
[01:24:25] Um or the or the m and pratt stories
[01:24:27] But like is there like a name for that you've come up with for like kind of like like an umbrella name for
[01:24:33] These uh all these stories that are in the seemingly the same setting that you've made um
[01:24:38] Inquiring minds want to know i mine
[01:24:42] So
[01:24:44] Yeah, um
[01:24:46] Back to the my final thoughts. I swear i'll get to the end of this
[01:24:50] Um
[01:24:52] I I do think uh that there is some room for improvement
[01:24:56] Uh for giving the reader some more context to certain things but
[01:25:00] um
[01:25:01] As it is i'm still willing to give it a recommendation because it is a complete story
[01:25:07] Um that you can follow through you can follow through
[01:25:11] Um and and finish and not be like totally left in the dark that you get the premise of the story
[01:25:16] You get the plot line the plot beats and all that stuff you get to learn about these characters and these
[01:25:20] strange fantastical places
[01:25:23] um
[01:25:24] Maybe maybe short hoggers the uh the the the later version
[01:25:29] Um that was like redone for the uh that series of stories will address some of the issues I have
[01:25:35] um, maybe it'll give me more questions
[01:25:38] but
[01:25:39] For now, I think this one's still pretty good and it's still
[01:25:43] There's some room for improvement, but it's still it's still good. What's that? What's that line from from stitch?
[01:25:50] Uh is still good, but still good
[01:25:54] So yeah bottom line i'm still gonna recommend it
[01:25:58] Mikey these tense for evil
[01:26:01] okay
[01:26:02] so
[01:26:04] I guess the number one issue I have with this
[01:26:09] Is that the majority of the story happens while the characters lie in bed
[01:26:15] You really do not like the uh
[01:26:18] Anything that happens you would like dreams
[01:26:20] You don't like the stories of the stories dream stories
[01:26:25] Everything can be false memories
[01:26:29] Yeah, like is she actually awake at the end? We don't know
[01:26:32] Yeah, it is I will I will say to be fair that does like that ending does feel very much like a dream thing
[01:26:39] It's like like where the nightmare suddenly becomes a dream again as the as the the dreamer gains control of the dream
[01:26:46] It's like well, I just happen to have this cool kill kill everything gun
[01:26:50] that I
[01:26:54] Yeah
[01:26:55] Yeah, so
[01:26:58] now
[01:26:59] That being said I know that there are some
[01:27:05] Uh
[01:27:06] interesting things like the whole shape shifting
[01:27:10] plot but the problem is it just
[01:27:13] Take so long for it
[01:27:16] Actually come to fruition
[01:27:18] Like oh you see them and they sort of change in the moonlight and then
[01:27:22] We don't hear anything else about the shape shifter until well talk about the thing
[01:27:28] Yeah, we have like some allegories for the for shape shifting and stuff
[01:27:31] Yeah, but then it's not until the very end. It's like oh, yeah, it was a shape shifter all along
[01:27:37] like
[01:27:38] I mean to be fair like I think
[01:27:41] I mean it is sort of like as a slow burn because
[01:27:44] um on top of like the the overarching threat like we do get an overarching threat
[01:27:49] that is introduced at the beginning and then
[01:27:51] Is speculated on here and there and through the through the bulk of the story and then is revealed at the end to be the threat
[01:27:59] But the rest of the story is kind it is world building and it is like kind of like
[01:28:04] um, it's taking its time to show us like the slice of life and like the situation of
[01:28:08] What's going on and then like linking the threat and the plot with this sort of like background information and these this sort of um
[01:28:16] World building stuff that we're getting so
[01:28:19] Yeah
[01:28:20] It just takes its time it meanders
[01:28:23] Yeah
[01:28:25] Yeah, so
[01:28:28] I
[01:28:31] Am I actually gonna bump up my recommendation a little bit? I'm sorry
[01:28:36] Gamer's like you can't do this gamer's not here
[01:28:39] I he won't believe me
[01:28:41] It's definitely not like we have this world recording. Sorry
[01:28:47] It's
[01:28:48] So I'm gonna give it a low end partial recommendation
[01:28:53] Uh, because there is some things that I thinking about it did enjoy of the story
[01:29:01] But the rest of it is just my own annoyance with stories and stories
[01:29:06] Yeah, your your own preference is kind of budding against the story's style
[01:29:10] Yeah
[01:29:11] Yeah, no that that's actually understandable like not every story is going to appease to everybody's like
[01:29:17] personal tastes and
[01:29:19] opinions so
[01:29:20] Okay, so um
[01:29:24] That was it right?
[01:29:25] Yep. Okay. Uh, so that will so a recommendation and a low partial recommendation
[01:29:34] That was changed from a known recommendation. Wow
[01:29:38] Again gamers never gonna believe this
[01:29:44] Um
[01:29:45] But uh, yeah, that'll do for this week's episode. Uh, so if you'd like what you heard or if you didn't leave us a comment in the comment section below
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