ADR - Episode 537: The Eighth Orphan Part 1

[00:00:16] Oh, hello and welcome to Adente Rigamortis. I'm Review Cultist.

[00:00:22] I'm Mikey, the East End's Fever.

[00:00:24] I'm the Gamer in Yellow.

[00:00:26] And we're here to discuss those internet stories, most creepy and most pasta, and be

[00:00:30] critically silly doing it.

[00:00:32] And tonight we have the Eighth Orphan Part 1.

[00:00:36] So we are returning to the Wont Think Straight saga, which is on Reddit No Sleep.

[00:00:43] It's part of the like Gurgles and Bugman and the doppelganger story and like basically all

[00:00:49] like bigger fish, like all those kind of stories that Wont Think Straight has been kind of

[00:00:54] recording and posting on Reddit No Sleep.

[00:00:59] And yeah, before we get too far ahead into this one, let's give our initial recommendations.

[00:01:06] I'm going to recommend this one.

[00:01:08] I am going to partially recommend this one.

[00:01:13] Safe, safe, okay.

[00:01:15] I'm going to fully recommend this one.

[00:01:18] All right.

[00:01:20] And I'm really curious what Mikey has to say that makes it partial and it might bring

[00:01:24] mine down too if it ruins slash makes it better.

[00:01:28] Yeah, I have a feeling I know why he gave a partial recommendation, but

[00:01:32] okay, I shall I shall hold my speculation till we hear it from the horse's mouth

[00:01:38] or the demon's mouth as it were.

[00:01:40] Yeah.

[00:01:41] The horse demon's mouth.

[00:01:43] Wait, is your horse now?

[00:01:45] It's like that horse demon from from that from the other one Think Straight story.

[00:01:49] Patient Sigma.

[00:01:52] I think there's a horse.

[00:01:53] I think it was like was it a goat?

[00:01:55] Yeah, it was a goat head in the wall.

[00:01:57] Ah, that's the one.

[00:01:59] Yeah, that's okay.

[00:01:59] My bad.

[00:02:03] Anyway, moving on to the rundown for this episode.

[00:02:07] So WTS and Steve have a new story from an interview with a lady suffering from clinical

[00:02:15] depression, one that has them stumped as to whether they believe it or not.

[00:02:21] So Satya, the interviewee was an orphan in Cambodia with six other orphans and were cared

[00:02:27] for by a father Abraham.

[00:02:30] Aside from the whole orphan thing, childhood and life were all right for Satya.

[00:02:38] And Satya even became a teacher for underprivileged youths and started her own family.

[00:02:44] Despite this, though, she never truly forgot her first true family like the like the

[00:02:50] those of the orphans and the father.

[00:02:54] They kept in touch over over the years.

[00:02:57] Two years before the interview that we that that Stephen WTS had with Satya though.

[00:03:05] Satya's life was shaken up when she got a call from one of the other orphans

[00:03:10] and her best friend growing up Chana, who informed her that father Abraham was dead.

[00:03:18] She traveled back to Cambodia and met up with four of the six orphans to attend the funeral

[00:03:25] and to catch up and remnus on the past.

[00:03:29] It was here that we, the reader, learned that the two missing orphans died years ago.

[00:03:35] The oldest of them, Clemente, who was killed trying to stop a mugging.

[00:03:44] And the other was Jockham or I'm just going to go with like how I think these are pronounced.

[00:03:51] So I apologize.

[00:03:54] The other one, Jockham, who took his own life in a rather gruesome and painful manner.

[00:04:01] One of the other orphans, Kong, who was Jockham's roommate found him in the bathroom with an empty

[00:04:08] bottle of bleach. He or Kong tried to call for an ambulance, but they didn't make it in time.

[00:04:16] Before he died, Jockham told Kong something that he would then share with the group

[00:04:21] at Abraham's funeral that there was supposedly an eighth orphan title drop.

[00:04:31] This brought memories to the forefront of everyone involved who all recalled there actually being

[00:04:39] an eighth orphan with them growing up, but not. Apparently they couldn't recall what he looked

[00:04:47] like, but recalled feeling like there was an eighth among them.

[00:04:53] Eventually it is surmised or it was surmised that he was a that this eighth orphan was

[00:04:59] some kind of a ghost or something. And that father Abraham, who had been told had been told

[00:05:06] about it by the by the orphans when they were kids, had reprimanded them for talking about him.

[00:05:11] And so they kept things secret and hush hush till Abraham's death.

[00:05:18] Satya recalls that she tried to befriend the boy, but by doing so and offering him

[00:05:24] some food one night by her bed, she felt him laying next to her in bed. And when she looked at him,

[00:05:32] he was eyeless, tongueless, limbless with bloody stumps and hissing out in agony.

[00:05:40] Father Abraham had told her it was a bad dream, but she could never shake it off and forget it.

[00:05:46] Now two years after the group this two years after this group conversation in Abraham's

[00:05:52] funeral, a few months from the from the interview, Satya started hearing the boy again, laying next

[00:06:02] to her in bed hissing in agony. She hears she heard the boy and didn't see it because she had to keep

[00:06:10] her eyes shut tight. Finn till part two. So yeah, that was the eighth orphan part one.

[00:06:22] And I suppose with that we'll move on to

[00:06:26] everyone tolerance of grandma inquisitions at this point. I've got a couple. So I'll start with the

[00:06:34] my first one. I'll start with my third one. Yeah, I was gonna say. Yeah, I'll start with this one

[00:06:42] here. But growing up though, she never felt her destiny was to the great or to be was to be great

[00:06:53] or important to the world. I think removing the front but here would fix an issue with the sentence,

[00:07:00] like just seemingly like stopping like growing up or like growing up though she never maybe

[00:07:10] maybe that isn't the right maybe also but and though like growing up she never felt her destiny was

[00:07:18] to be great or important to the world. Like I just don't understand why there's a but or a though

[00:07:25] at the beginning because it kind of muddies this sentence.

[00:07:32] So yeah, the other and the sentences around it are like

[00:07:36] she was given a good education even better than most other kids in the public schools nearby

[00:07:43] and had the chance to get a good career in accounting period. But growing up comma though she

[00:07:51] never felt her destiny was to be great or important to the world period. Instead comma

[00:07:58] she felt her contribution would be to teach others to be great and important. So like maybe

[00:08:05] so the the the but sentence it starts and then it says though this happens blah blah blah blah

[00:08:12] it sounds like it's about to immediately continue with this other thing happens but it goes to a

[00:08:17] period. Yeah, so I think if that was like cut down a bit and connected to the next sentence

[00:08:24] it might work better. I think that's I think that's it yeah. Yeah, I think I think if they

[00:08:30] got rid of the but like maybe even though too as like growing up she felt her she felt her destiny

[00:08:36] was to be great or she never felt her destiny was to be great or important to the world comma instead

[00:08:43] she felt her contribution would be to teach others to be great and important period. Like

[00:08:49] a little bit long of a sentence but that's doable. Yeah. And then the next one I have here

[00:08:57] this one maybe I'll highlight what it is because it's gonna be hard to pronounce it or be hard to

[00:09:06] to bring up when I read the sentence fumbling for the phone to call for help the medics had arrived

[00:09:13] too late. I think that the so two in the in the sentence is just to and I think it needs to

[00:09:19] be to like because they were too late. Yes. Yes. And then the next one I have here

[00:09:28] the bleach had burned through his throat, esophagus and stomach. So it should be brought up at this

[00:09:36] point as I was like doing like looking through and like noticing some issues with the writing

[00:09:43] that weren't actually issues because as I found out the story was actually typed in British

[00:09:47] English not American English. So various words were named or were spelled differently than I was

[00:09:55] expecting that there's I discovered a few I discovered this while like looking at a couple

[00:10:01] of the words that I don't normally like associate having that kind of spelling because despite

[00:10:07] that we in Canada use like kind of British English a lot we also use a lot of American

[00:10:12] English or were we're exposed. Yeah, we're kind of exposed to American English is more than the

[00:10:18] than the British English including esophagus which I swear to God I did not realize had an O

[00:10:25] at the start of it which in the set in the story it does and no that's actually the

[00:10:29] British English spelling of esophagus is OES OPH A G US. Yes, I didn't know the

[00:10:38] either spelling of esophagus so I just rolled with it because I knew what the word

[00:10:44] the regular like so like you you you pronounce it esophagus so in the American English it's

[00:10:51] it's ESO not OES. It's an osophagus or an OES. So yeah, I just want to point that out like

[00:11:03] that like the story is clearly written in British English rather than American English.

[00:11:08] So and then the next one I have here at Jocham's funeral Kong had to distraught to say much more

[00:11:17] but by the time Abraham's funeral he was ready to reopen that wound so I think it should be

[00:11:26] at Jocham's funeral Kong had been to distraught to say much more or was to distraught to say much

[00:11:34] more and then even with had been yeah had been yeah that's what I said yeah sorry yes and then

[00:11:42] even like maybe like turn these two sentences because it stops it like much more and then

[00:11:47] period but by the time of Abraham's funeral he was ready to reopen that wound make that like

[00:11:57] combine these two sentences together it will make it a little bit longer but I mean it's not too long

[00:12:02] and it will I feel like it makes the story it makes these two sentences flow better if

[00:12:08] if they're combined so yeah that's that's my my issue with those two sentences and my next one here

[00:12:18] they could not have been an odd number of people so this might be a nitpick but I feel like they

[00:12:26] could not have been an odd number of people should actually be there could not have been

[00:12:30] an odd number of people yeah yeah it does sound better like rereading it like now like

[00:12:38] they still kind of works but I still feel that there could not have been an odd number of people

[00:12:42] works better but yeah we have to prefer some preference because it works either way but I prefer

[00:12:55] there yeah yeah we're all in the nitpick right now a little bit yeah it's over and it's in

[00:13:03] no and then the last one I have is uh

[00:13:07] Roxa then stepped the group through the activities of the first day so this might be a regional variant

[00:13:12] of what I think it should be but it's like Roxa then walked the group through the activities of

[00:13:19] the first day like I get like stepped works so like maybe it's again maybe it's a British

[00:13:23] thing like if the story is being written in like like using that or like maybe it's a regional

[00:13:29] dialect of who of where the story came from kind of thing but I suppose I don't know yeah I would

[00:13:36] have like like to me like when I first read it I was like what that like Roxa then stepped through

[00:13:41] the stepped the group through it's like I mean I guess that works but I would have used walked

[00:13:44] through the group through because you're walking the person through a process kind of thing

[00:13:49] but I guess that also works for like you're stepping the person through a process

[00:13:54] here are the steps yeah like honestly that does make sense though like because it has like out of

[00:14:00] a double entendre there like is it like you're stepping them through the process you're walking

[00:14:03] them through like that's like stepping means walking but also it's like you're putting

[00:14:07] them through the steps of the process which is uh connected to processes and such or through

[00:14:13] like events like through the steps of an event yeah I don't know it might just be like a

[00:14:18] regional variant thing but I like I would have preferred walked but this is what I'm getting at

[00:14:25] and uh that's the end of my grammar inquisition so Mikey the east ends for evil

[00:14:32] okay I have a conjunction junction ooh and next stop conjunction junction

[00:14:38] it was only when she started telling us her story did her demeanor change

[00:14:47] but growing up though she never felt her destiny was to be great or important to the world

[00:14:57] so as a sign of appreciation for the opportunity she had been given she became a teacher

[00:15:04] for underprivileged kids it was something she cooked once a month not just because of the happy

[00:15:15] memories it brought her but also because she was still experimenting with the recipe

[00:15:22] it was a moving if subdued funeral so it was on one fateful night that he saw a beggar

[00:15:34] having his meager belaaning being stolen but by the time of abrahans funeral

[00:15:45] he was ready to reopen that wound but they all had an unshakable unexplainable feeling

[00:15:56] that someone was missing it would always come to seven but the memory was so long ago

[00:16:07] that they all had different memories of who sat next to whom and everyone seemed accounted for

[00:16:17] none of them could recall any person that didn't match the description of the seven

[00:16:25] it was such a mix of emotions for them with so many activities being shown around the small orphanage

[00:16:34] learning the rules meeting the guard dogs being assigned beds cleaning their areas

[00:16:43] even learning to cook their own lunch but always there were just seven beds in our room

[00:16:53] stated a fonzo that means only seven of us right so that still means seven

[00:17:04] but the boy turned around and vanished but many times i see a shadow in the corner

[00:17:14] it would dart away when i looked at it but you know that one time zhakeem got in trouble for it

[00:17:26] it wasn't him because he knew he was guilty from before

[00:17:34] so i tried to make friends with him but over time he stayed longer

[00:17:42] so one night i had left some food for him under the bed and saw him

[00:17:53] it's been over two years since that conversation and satya

[00:17:59] still has no choice but to remember and she has been too afraid to open her eyes thin

[00:18:13] okay so at the beginning that took a cannibal turn for me

[00:18:18] i like she she decided to be cut like to uh help uh underprivileged children

[00:18:25] and she was making her favorite dish

[00:18:31] the weight that like the other the difference that just kept expanding on to it it's like

[00:18:35] so she's like hunting down homeless children

[00:18:39] from the mugging and some of that and then what i what i also constructed in this or would

[00:18:44] elaborate on from this is um the ghost of some of that child one of those children

[00:18:50] uh will start haunting them like the people who live who who's at this orphanage

[00:18:54] and like working there as the cannibals this cannibal orphanage

[00:18:59] yeah like the the like the eighth orphan is actually like a ghost of like one of their previous victims

[00:19:04] and so like it's now tormenting them so the way the wording went when it was like

[00:19:10] saying that she's preparing like her uh her recipe or whatever that she has to get used to

[00:19:17] and like but like immediately after that it was like talking about like a funeral like

[00:19:24] the recipe for the funeral is murder

[00:19:29] i mean you made the funeral technically uh this will make such a fine funeral yeah

[00:19:42] uh yeah yeah it's weird here the where these things go when you read them completely out

[00:19:48] of context just highlighting the sentences in the story that start with words that they probably

[00:19:53] shouldn't like its ends or buts because there's always better words to use yes gamer do you have

[00:20:01] a gamer a grammar in yellow i believe i do at least one left because you got one of mine

[00:20:12] that night i remember you woke us all up and not stopped crying

[00:20:17] um i feel i feel like i should be in would not stop crying or why stop crying i would agree with

[00:20:24] you except the story establishes that they all have a quirk to how they speak oh fuck you it's

[00:20:32] literally fucking says they laughed together about how they all discovered much later in life

[00:20:39] that father had often confused six grammatical tenses of his native portuguese when he taught in

[00:20:46] english resulting in all of them adopting his quirky style of speech they affectionately dubbed

[00:20:52] abrahmanese okay so is did you have any uh grammar stuff that was in quotes that was dialogue

[00:21:00] specifically no okay but this is the one time that dialogue had something weird in it and like

[00:21:11] the weird accent like but it but the story specifically establishes why the characters talk

[00:21:18] this way in the quote yeah but it doesn't establish what the weird talking is just that

[00:21:24] they have a weird way of talking it literally don't know what that is the father confused

[00:21:30] the six grammatical tenses of his native portuguese to create this quirky style of speech

[00:21:36] there go any quirkiness of the speech in in these character speeches is like no

[00:21:42] avoid for criticism because it's the way the character talks it is literally the embodiment

[00:21:46] of that of our of that joke we have i suppose denied basically my whole problem with that

[00:21:58] though is like yeah they have a quirky way of speaking and like that's fine and i like

[00:22:03] like the story behind that and everything but there's no straight up example of it

[00:22:08] aside from what you just read which is kind of like glossed over and to be honest like i forgot

[00:22:14] about it by the time i got to this park i feel like that's on you though that's not the stories

[00:22:19] fault well it kind of is a story's fault because there should be more issues with the speaking

[00:22:25] than just what yeah i i disagree there's only the one mess up the entire time and yet they all

[00:22:32] have this quirk there there were there were other instances during the writing like during the dialogue

[00:22:37] where this is this is like because i remember like noticing it as i was reading their dialogue and i

[00:22:42] was like going to do something about it and then i recalled this line where they had like a quirky

[00:22:47] like abrahamese style of of speaking like yeah after recording get me a copy and paste a whole

[00:22:58] list of all the ones that are abraham abrahamese and then i'll agree with you but as i read

[00:23:03] through it i only noticed one so it was an outlier a new strange uh effort i'm not going through that

[00:23:09] but then i win i just win then agree to disagree agree to disagree no well i guess fuck you you're

[00:23:18] just gonna yeah exactly either way that's the end of grammar okay uh well then first we'll move on

[00:23:26] to actual thoughts so i'm gonna start with this one here uh my childhood encounter with the unknown

[00:23:33] is one such loose thread that i still wonder where it eventually leads so childhood encounter

[00:23:41] with the unknown is a link to the uh the events of the gurus and bugman show story um and honestly

[00:23:49] you and me both wts i would love to see a return of this of those of that incident in like i would

[00:23:56] like to see like where that went like is there a sequel in the in the future for a gurus and bugman

[00:24:01] show story but i digress uh the next one i have here the routine interview steve and i had with

[00:24:13] sacha is another so this one uses a link as well uh routine interview is a link to bigger fish

[00:24:22] which was with malcom the uh the the fisherman who uh was in jail not because he well because he was like

[00:24:30] framed for murder but he also wants to stay in jail because there's some horrible monsters that actually

[00:24:35] caused the murders that he was involved in um but the way this story the sentence is phrased

[00:24:40] is kind of odd to me the routine interview steve and i had with sacha is another

[00:24:46] so when i first read this i was and i looked at like where that link went to it went to

[00:24:51] bigger fish i was like sacha you mean malcom did did you just use his real name or last name

[00:24:58] like thought you were altering names for anonymity in this in these stories um that was my initial

[00:25:05] thought when i when i saw the sentence and then as i went through it like it literally goes on to

[00:25:09] describe sacha as a as the newest interviewee of steve and wts but the routine interview link

[00:25:18] to bigger fish kind of makes it sound like that like that they're interviewing they're still

[00:25:24] interviewing or they were going to interview malcom again but they added sacha so it just

[00:25:31] it just seemed like an odd like i feel like this sentence should probably be cleared up for clarity

[00:25:38] um where it's like a grammar issue maybe it maybe it is maybe uh yeah it might be a grammar

[00:25:43] issue but like yeah the routine the routine interview steve and i had with malcom was another

[00:25:50] but uh then there was another interview we had with sacha or something or maybe even just

[00:25:56] like don't have to include this other interview um like link um yeah i just know it like really

[00:26:03] kind of confused me it was like uh like right off the hop of like why they were referencing

[00:26:10] malcom's interview when they're referencing that sacha's interview is the one that like really

[00:26:15] like stumped them but yeah just bringing up characters from the previous stories basically

[00:26:22] yeah but it's like the way the way it's written it like doesn't make sense because it makes it

[00:26:28] seem like sacha was part of that interview but i guess i guess maybe what's trying to do with

[00:26:34] that is like the routine interviews steve and i had were another including one with a woman named

[00:26:43] sacha maybe that's how you'd fix it like for the show yeah yeah because it does directly reference

[00:26:49] sacha with her previous interview which she was not there so yeah yeah um but i'll move on to the

[00:26:58] next thing i have here um she had grown up in a cambodian orphanage with six other kids and to that

[00:27:04] i was a student like my like right at the top of my head i was like not seven making her the eighth

[00:27:10] orphan title drop effort much but then we go on and we find out why the the story's called the

[00:27:16] eighth orphan and makes sense in the end um the next one i have here oh yeah so the uh and i

[00:27:23] brought up the thing about abrahman ease i'm not gonna open that wound again sure now i'm good

[00:27:31] um just know that i'm right you're wrong anyways moving on

[00:27:34] how you said agree to disagree sir i said i'm you're the one being you yeah but then you were

[00:27:40] really all asshole about it uh but i'll move on um so sacha remembered once during the water

[00:27:48] festival a boy had stolen her water her toy water gun that father had bought her um so uh

[00:27:57] i just thought this was neat that we get another yet another link uh with this time

[00:28:01] with water festival to a wikipedia article on water festivals uh specifically from the south

[00:28:06] asian but from the south pacific or like the south southeast asia um that gives us a little

[00:28:13] bit more context without it's sort of like i guess sort of like an scp entry thing where

[00:28:17] like it is a link that sends you to like some information that you need to be privy to

[00:28:22] it could also be kind of lazy because it doesn't describe what a water festival is in the story

[00:28:27] but also like this is a quick and easy way of doing it in the story

[00:28:31] is uh especially when it's an online story where you can just like put a hyperlink to

[00:28:35] an article about the subject for for future for further reading the amount of times we've had

[00:28:42] to physically google shit and complained about that at least this is linked yeah and that's the

[00:28:47] thing i like i kind of like about these stories is that we do get like some of those links that

[00:28:50] like give us more context if we didn't read the story either either a previous story or

[00:28:56] um if it has something that like the author knows that it's going to be something that

[00:28:59] like people are going to look up so and as i as the wikipedia article is basically water

[00:29:04] festivals in the in southeast asia are kind of like a new year like a sort of like a type

[00:29:08] of new year celebration or like a like a celebration of renewal um so yeah it was it was

[00:29:15] interesting to to read a little bit on that and get that context

[00:29:20] the next thing i have here this might also be count as a grammar but i added it into

[00:29:24] into actual thoughts um he died before a fondso could make a call for medical help

[00:29:33] don't you mean kong his roommate who found him in the bathroom and was the only established person

[00:29:40] living there when he and was there when he died when like when uh when jocum died

[00:29:46] it was weird that like for some reason a fondso was suddenly there like making the call for the

[00:29:51] medical like no wonder he died before the medical help like kong had to call a fondso

[00:29:56] and then a fondso called the medical called the call for medical help

[00:30:00] whoops yeah i think clearly this is just like a hiccup and i think this is just like

[00:30:04] they meant kong but they didn't they put in a fondso

[00:30:09] so another grammar in your notes i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm not sorry i tossed

[00:30:15] it in my actual thoughts apparently uh i'll move on to the next one i have i wonder how

[00:30:22] few people know that reference that you're making

[00:30:28] probably no one who listens understands that reference i was gonna say like it's like a

[00:30:33] given how how probably how young our audiences sometimes like

[00:30:39] yeah who knows um basically pee we herman wasn't a chijin chong movie moving on yeah yeah

[00:30:45] what was the movie what was the movie called ah fuck

[00:30:50] pee we her i have it on dvd but it's easier i know

[00:30:56] because that's how i watched it was i watched it for your copy of it uh chijin chong's next movie

[00:31:03] yeah so yeah go see chijin chong's next movie to get the the reference there's our hyperlink in

[00:31:09] our audio recording oh yeah um oh no sorry that was in nice dreams oh god damn it okay you should

[00:31:17] watch the next movie anyway because it's all so good yes uh Jesus all right moving on to the next

[00:31:24] thing i have uh they had not spoken of it oh they had not spoken of it for years but they each

[00:31:32] have all they no but they each have always felt there was an extra orphan in their group

[00:31:39] so i read this part and i was like is this gonna turn into a cambodian flesh gate scenario

[00:31:44] like or like the annancy goat man of cambodia and or something some other like like using that

[00:31:51] similar like online creepy pasta trope of like the there's a creature that infiltrated the group

[00:31:58] and made them think or believe that there was an extra person among them the whole time until

[00:32:03] it until they leave the area or it leaves their group or it's too late and it's killed a couple of

[00:32:09] them and update not quite it's more of just like suppressed memories from a haunting situation

[00:32:16] kind of and kind of situation like thing that's happening here um and even the thing of like what

[00:32:22] happens later in the story where like she's starting to the boy is like found her um could actually even

[00:32:28] be kind of like another similar haunting thing where like you go back to like your home your home

[00:32:35] following a funeral thing you get you reminisce you get these memories unlocked from like reminiscing

[00:32:40] about like the the good old days and stuff and that triggers the ghost appearing and latching

[00:32:45] on to you and then it take you taking it home with you uh from where it was like the reason why she

[00:32:53] hasn't like why it hasn't been like haunting her like since childhood is and there's only now

[00:32:57] only after a couple of like a year or so after the um like that those memories were kind of like

[00:33:04] unlocked um is because it was still in cambodia like still like haunting maybe abraham or

[00:33:09] something and now that like abraham's dad it's moved on to a new host body it's sort of like that

[00:33:17] and that's the like the haunted house kind of trope whereas the house actually isn't haunted

[00:33:21] it's a fan it's a it's a person who lived in the haunted house was haunted so when they try to

[00:33:25] leave and move to another house it wasn't the house that was haunted it was the person

[00:33:31] yeah but uh yeah move on to the next thing i have i i saw him father made me try to forget

[00:33:38] but i still remember the boy he lying in the bed with me except he had no eyes no tongue when he

[00:33:48] opened his mouth just just horrible a hissing sound he had no arms or legs just stumps and blood

[00:33:57] he just lay there looking at me hissing in agony father said it was all a bad dream

[00:34:04] he tried to he tried to make me forget but i i now remember sachia repeated rocking backwards

[00:34:12] and forwards i remember so this is a cool creepy discreet like final description we get of the boy

[00:34:18] like after them like you know talking about like them seeing glimpses of him and like shadows of

[00:34:23] them and stuff and then we get like the full version uh with sachia's encounter um also

[00:34:29] getting the feeling that father abraham may have known more about this boy than he let on

[00:34:35] of course i hope i'm wrong because he seemed like a real stand-up like wholesome guy like caring for

[00:34:42] these orphans but like i feel like there's a dark secret that might get revealed about him

[00:34:48] and this eighth orphan in the next part like yeah like he might have been responsible for this

[00:34:54] orphan's death or something there's gonna be some weird dark shit for sure yeah we're gonna get some

[00:35:00] we're gonna we're gonna be uncovering some skeletons in father abraham's closet i think

[00:35:06] but um but uh i digress i'm that's actually the end of my notes so mickey the east ends for evil

[00:35:16] all right so my actual thought here is

[00:35:29] why didn't the kids talk to each other more when they were in foster care

[00:35:39] like i feel like they would all have known uh different theories and whatnot about the

[00:35:51] the haunted uh kid or why of the one lady when she saw him screamed yeah um but everyone

[00:36:05] the one person was like uh that night i remember you woke up you woke us all up and non-stop cry

[00:36:12] and uh and wouldn't tell why but i feel like they would tell why i eventually yeah i got it

[00:36:22] straight up says though that they basically were punished by by the father and that they

[00:36:28] shouldn't talk about it yeah i think we what we're experiencing what we're seeing here is like

[00:36:33] the first hints of where we're gonna maybe get more in in the second one where it's kind of revealed

[00:36:38] that like uh the father reprimanded them and so like kind of like basically tried to suppress

[00:36:45] like what they saw like because he's like in this one it's like oh he didn't want like the locals

[00:36:51] the thing like he's uh teaching bad kids or like he's bad at teaching kids and like and like raising

[00:36:56] them and stuff but like to me it sounds like a trauma response so like i'm wondering if like

[00:37:02] and like uh like just now like after abraham is dead they're all getting this off their chest

[00:37:08] basically um because there's no more repercussions like that sounds like a trauma response to me

[00:37:14] like a childhood trauma response like uh like maybe like the punishment was pretty severe from the

[00:37:20] father um yeah so yeah like and they do all recall that like they they all knew about the ghost

[00:37:28] and they they wanted to talk about it but they kept it hush hush because of they were they were

[00:37:32] afraid of getting punished by by father abraham yeah but at the same time it's been 20 years

[00:37:42] since they were in foster care or at least the main character yeah um and they were all

[00:37:49] about the same age so you can only be in foster care for so many years before they kick you out

[00:37:54] yeah usually it's about i think yeah so um

[00:38:01] using 20 years as a basis for them to still remember unless it was a traumatic traumatic

[00:38:08] experience like the one girl that screamed i i think it was a i think it was a traumatic

[00:38:15] experience but like for all of them but like the encounter like i think what was happening was the

[00:38:21] the part of the traumatic in situation wasn't just the ghost but it was also like how the father

[00:38:26] like was like reprimanding them for even talking about it like and that like that can affect you

[00:38:32] like well into your like into your adulthood like like to the point where like the only

[00:38:37] reason they are starting they're able to talk about it now is because abraham is dead

[00:38:42] like the the one thing that was keeping them from saying anything about it

[00:38:46] is gone so that's like basically a quote that's in the movie very in the story yeah

[00:38:53] sorry but like that that's a psychological thing too like that does actually happen like

[00:39:01] well i i feel like there should be more mention of how strict uh father abraham was

[00:39:14] because like i did not get that weird like i i know there's authoritarian figures because

[00:39:21] that's what parents and guardians are but like so strict that even kids that are in the same room

[00:39:34] um sharing seven beds um wouldn't have talked and you know done what kids do

[00:39:44] not if they were like being like i get reprimanded or punished like severely for it like i get

[00:39:50] like this story doesn't really say that but i kind of go one time it does say the one time and

[00:39:55] that's what kind of like made me think like that like they they're on the surface they they

[00:40:01] recall father abraham fondly except for that one time which may not have been one time

[00:40:08] um which i think i wonder if we'll get like more like kind of like of the truth about abraham

[00:40:13] in the next one um uh like maybe i get like i i don't know what it is like maybe it's

[00:40:20] because i've seen a lot of movies like that then i have like this kind of set up but like

[00:40:24] i'm get i'm very sus i'm sus about uh or abraham is very sus to me but yeah

[00:40:37] yeah uh

[00:40:41] and then um the uh the the other thing here is the the last paragraph

[00:40:54] so it's been over two years since that conversation and satya still has no choice but to remember

[00:41:05] starting a few months ago whenever she dies in bed with her eyes closed she has heard the

[00:41:12] hissing beside her and she has been too afraid to open her eyes so she hasn't opened her eyes

[00:41:20] for two years no yeah you're you're being critically silly today yeah a little bit um i i do

[00:41:34] think it's a little weird that like it took two years for that ghost to like finally manifest

[00:41:39] from that conversation like i would have given it like maybe like a few months

[00:41:43] rather than two years but um yeah it is it is all that like it took two years for the ghost

[00:41:50] to start haunting her after that conversation but like yeah like clearly it just means like when

[00:41:55] she's sleeping at night like she'll hear it and but she doesn't want to open her eyes because she

[00:41:59] knows last time she opened her eyes and looked at the thing she didn't like what she saw so like

[00:42:05] that's that's why she's like keeping her eyes closed at night when she sleeps you know aside

[00:42:10] from the fact that like you know if that's what you do when you're sleeping is you have your eyes

[00:42:13] closed but really yeah i know it's weird

[00:42:19] sleep with eyes wide open all the time never know when you're going to get tass

[00:42:24] what about eyes wide shut yeah that's not that's an option too sure that's a kinky option anyway

[00:42:36] yeah so that's into my actual thoughts okay gamer let's see what i got left so right when i just

[00:42:54] first opened up the story and read the title and everything and was making my notes like

[00:42:59] making my note files and getting everything sorted like okay so this is the 10th story in

[00:43:05] the won't think straight saga called the eighth orphan but it's part one there's a lot of numbers

[00:43:11] being tossed around just in the title alone yeah also uh like missed opportunity i mean i'm sure

[00:43:19] like the story i would out of game out of setting out of fiction i'm sure the story was like but

[00:43:24] like the 10th one was like just the light latest one written but like you couldn't have had to be

[00:43:29] the 10th orphan make that many more characters no i mean we'll just we don't get all of the orphan

[00:43:37] like the character's names in this like right like we get a fond so clement clement a all them

[00:43:43] jocam kong chana shit that's not one no uh satia so we get uh that's six satia kong jocam

[00:43:55] clement a fond so and chana and raza like i've said four times so you've not been coming through i'm

[00:44:01] sorry god uh yeah rocks it yeah okay fair enough that is yeah okay we didn't get all of them i'm

[00:44:07] my bad it's fine okay so my next one um is basically just overall just that i like the

[00:44:17] characters in this story i like the the backstory that they all give with like the slight flashbacks

[00:44:23] but like um father teaching them english and all that um and why he speaks the way he does and

[00:44:31] it apparently gave them an accent that wasn't fully explained 100 into my eyes

[00:44:37] just peeking under that band aid a little bit um um yeah uh the characters they sort of bleed

[00:44:46] together a little bit like one from the other because they don't have too many distinguishing

[00:44:51] features like we don't get much visually on any of them um and character wise they're sort of all

[00:44:58] similar but i still feel like they're all childhood friends and like it yeah it like the characters

[00:45:06] are all well made in that and the way that they talk to each other yeah yeah because like

[00:45:11] i i just sort of like put in like placeholders for like what they look like yeah but yeah we

[00:45:17] really don't get a description of them we just get but we we do get a description kind of like

[00:45:22] through their like their because like that i guess that's not really the the point of the story

[00:45:25] like the point in this story is just like they're they're bond and their relationship with each other

[00:45:30] oh for sure i'm not complaining about their lack of description i'm just saying like there wasn't

[00:45:35] much but the characters themselves with as little description as there was it still felt

[00:45:40] fleshed out fair man so then uh we get on to orphan eight um i don't really know what to believe

[00:45:48] that he is like straight up you think like he's a spirit and all that but as soon as i thought that

[00:45:54] my second thought was should i take this the fucked up mundane route and suggest that he was a real

[00:46:00] boy that the father kept in his like in a secret room somewhere else in the house i could escape

[00:46:07] yeah just like stubs pretty much yeah oh god that's horrible yeah like ah and that's why he

[00:46:14] doesn't have a tongue because he can't say anything yeah no tongue no uh no eyes

[00:46:20] it's like i i think it's more or less a um it's got to be an apparition of somebody who died

[00:46:26] like of an orphan one would think because like he wouldn't be able to zip around to disappear

[00:46:31] really quickly if he was like just stumps like he is you know also this just kind of clicked for me

[00:46:39] there's a precedence in the in the previous stories that kind of like this character is this this uh

[00:46:45] this being this boy kind of like is a mashup of a few details from previous stories like they see it

[00:46:52] like as a shadow in the corner before it vanishes wasn't that like what the patient

[00:46:57] sigma was looking at was constantly staring at the corner staring at it forever yeah yeah never

[00:47:03] vanished yeah but yes but then but then also like there's the story of like the other girl that could

[00:47:09] like that was like could could uh like sense like the like the certain like see colors differently

[00:47:16] or like in a different way or perceive colors weirdly and and it turned out that it was

[00:47:20] like sort of a stir of echoes thing where like there was a ghost or like um some kind of

[00:47:24] there's a body in the wall so it's like this story is kind of keeping to the theme of some

[00:47:30] of the wts stories where it's like this weird it might be like the ghost of like a of a like a

[00:47:37] what not grudge ghost but like a like a the ghost of a victim of something like haunting these

[00:47:43] characters i don't know maybe it may be i'm just thinking about too much and then like

[00:47:48] thing too too deep into it we're supposed to be thinking about that i know but um it's

[00:47:53] a ghost of some kind but who knows we'll find out in part two yeah we'll find out what again

[00:48:00] what skeletons uh we're in uh father abraham's closet i really hope father abraham isn't involved

[00:48:06] like i hope that that's kind of i also kind of hope that's a red herring that i don't know the

[00:48:11] first time they brought it up and like we're insistent about it he got like really serious

[00:48:15] he's like yeah fucking stopped but like i can obviously yeah but i can also see like from

[00:48:22] from how they describe like why he why he told them like he reprimanded like he doesn't want

[00:48:26] like the the local like the neighbors to like think that he's like raising like

[00:48:30] or he's not raising the kids properly i can kind of see that as a proper excuse

[00:48:35] for why he'd be skeptical or why he'd reprimand them for saying these kind of things i know

[00:48:39] like i have to cover yeah it is it's also really good cover but like also the description

[00:48:45] of their childhood seemed like he was a really good guy so like but then he also

[00:48:49] now that i'm thinking about it he also after after he was done like uh raising these orphans

[00:48:54] he went off to a village to meditate in solitude for the rest of his life it's like

[00:48:59] what was he like meditating on was it like a like sort of like he he went off and isolated

[00:49:04] himself because he because of what he had done like was he was he doing it out of guilt

[00:49:09] to try and like make amends kind of like spiritually like why or did he just like

[00:49:15] i've done my good deeds i'm going to go off and and and uh and meditate in isolation

[00:49:20] yeah it could just be not anything fucked up like i don't want to be fucked up like i hate that

[00:49:26] i'm like this like i feel like if it if it is turned out like that like he's actually like

[00:49:30] off the hook for like doing something bad i was i'm gonna feel extremely cynical

[00:49:35] we're reading a creepypasta though like yeah that's true yeah there's supposed to be fucked

[00:49:39] up stuff just because we want it to be wholesome because it's a bunch of children doesn't mean

[00:49:45] it will be and again there there is a precedence in these stories of having a really fucked up like

[00:49:51] childhood relationship with with an older with somebody else because like of the one story

[00:49:55] with the girl who was like molested by her uncle so yeah like uh like i don't i don't want to

[00:50:04] believe the father abraham is guilty but i he's looking real guilty for some reason in my head

[00:50:10] kind of is and i'm guessing part two is either going to flesh that out or like kind of like

[00:50:15] throw that out shoot that out of the water kind of thing well well there's no there's no middle

[00:50:21] ground it's gonna it's gotta be like he's in it or not yeah for sure yeah yeah that's basically

[00:50:34] the end of my notes until finals honestly oh okay uh then uh yeah i guess we'll move on to final thoughts

[00:50:40] so yeah i really liked this like the setup um it gave me steven king's it vibes um and i i mean that in

[00:50:48] that like uh a childhood friend group getting together later in life only to realize uh you

[00:50:56] actually i think they get together because of a funeral or because of a death and they come

[00:51:01] together in remnis only to realize or remember suddenly that they all have this like these repressed

[00:51:07] memories from their childhood um about something that that happened and it's coming back to bite them

[00:51:15] or it's coming back um on them like in their adult life um like that's basically like kind of the

[00:51:22] setup for a lot of stories that like and like i think since steven king's it because it's such a

[00:51:27] a cool like thing of like the cycle like you start off in the as a child in the childhood and then you

[00:51:33] uh and then you and then you see the characters later on in life coming back to like remembering

[00:51:38] stuff that the weird shit that happened in their childhood kind of situation like this is kind

[00:51:42] of what this feels like um so yeah i'm gonna recommend this one and i am looking forward

[00:51:48] to seeing what the sequel part holds um because i'm guessing that this i'm and i'm guessing

[00:51:55] that the part that part two is going to be set in the present with sachia or like like what what did

[00:52:00] sachia find out further about what happened but uh i suppose we'll see how long has it been since

[00:52:10] the orphanage um many years that's what i thought two years since the orphanage and then two years

[00:52:17] went by from the come from the funeral with uh and and that conversation they had with like the

[00:52:22] group in them and then a lot of time where shit can happen no two years from the interview yes yeah

[00:52:29] two from no not from the interview two years from the conversation that they had that they had with

[00:52:35] their their friends that was on the interviews uh like like this the interviews uh more recent but

[00:52:42] the cut are you saying that the cut doesn't take us back to the first section hang on i

[00:52:49] okay it's been two years oh you're right

[00:52:54] shit i i thought okay my bad i'm so angry with that

[00:53:03] fuck

[00:53:07] um like i okay i i get what you're saying though like yeah i guess like i

[00:53:13] grammar inquisition then get the fuck get get that cut if that's how it's supposed to be like

[00:53:17] it's been two years since that conversation get that conversation word out of there and put

[00:53:21] interview god damn it because that made me think that that was uh the conversation that satya had

[00:53:28] had with like chana and all her orphan friends not the interview with wts and steve oh i'm so

[00:53:49] so we don't exactly know i'm done okay so we establishes that we don't exactly know exactly

[00:53:58] how long it's been since they've been in the orphanage it's been give or take 20 years at least

[00:54:07] 22 yeah regardless that is a lot of time where a lot of other things can happen where you can

[00:54:12] find out more about what happened so it's not necessarily going to be um modern day it still

[00:54:19] could be in the past a bit but we'll find out yeah maybe like the unlock maybe part two is like

[00:54:23] just unlocking more memories that have happened but like i'm guessing it's either gonna be that or like

[00:54:28] satya is going to like relay some more information that she's since she's been investigating

[00:54:34] more recently what's been like like her haunting basically so she might be uncovering

[00:54:40] the past in the present or we might just be going back into the past and unlocking memories

[00:54:45] so we shall we shall see that's all right my bad yes i i still recommend it i still like it even

[00:54:54] though like i've hit that i had that like that uh that brain fart there and realized and yeah

[00:54:59] i'm not i'm still not sure if i'm i'm not i'm still not convinced that meant the conversation

[00:55:05] with the friends or the interview like i'm still up in the air on that one but i still recommend

[00:55:09] the story

[00:55:24] there's so many of our episodes that just have that subtitle

[00:55:29] anyway um mickey your final recommendations and thoughts

[00:55:33] all right so i did like the creepiness of the the eighth orphan being a ghost child or whatever

[00:55:46] what i personally didn't like was exactly what review calls us like which was the reminiscing

[00:55:54] and the unlocked memories uh because so much time has passed like 20 plus years because it's assumed

[00:56:05] that well they're young when they're reminiscing about how young they are because they're when

[00:56:11] they first entered the orphanage um and who knows how when they left the orphanage

[00:56:20] like did they stay there until they're 18 and but they're there when when they're five like

[00:56:29] so that's a long time to have haunted story memories yeah i mean i'm i'm for for the genre but like

[00:56:40] yeah i mean guess realistically you're not very fun are you

[00:56:44] now i'm joking i'm joking

[00:56:50] i just had to get that like the uh um uh was the uh the dungen dragons quote of like

[00:56:55] you're not very fun are you and i still haven't seen that i'm really on am i

[00:57:01] oh you do we need to watch that sometime man yeah good movie anyway yeah no like i can see your

[00:57:07] point like because like you've always been uh vehement about false memory syndrome

[00:57:14] yeah so like i do understand why you don't care for it but like

[00:57:17] genre wise it's really intriguing to me but i get i get why you don't like it

[00:57:24] so false memories if they all have the same memory though um yeah like shared actually very much

[00:57:30] yeah like that's like shared hallucinations or shared hysteria and like shared like they're

[00:57:35] connecting everything to it just because of something like um that one part where it's

[00:57:40] like she woke up screaming and woke them all up she could just had a nightmare but they're all

[00:57:43] like oh that was the creepy guy that did that oh okay yeah it's effectively they're all feeding off

[00:57:49] of each other there's actually a um uh there's like a like a ufo encounter where an entire

[00:57:54] class or entire school in in africa um in count supposedly encountered uh ufo landing

[00:58:02] and seeing aliens um like on a recess or something like that like just beyond like their

[00:58:08] their their schoolyard and um all the kids had like roughly the same story but like and some of that

[00:58:15] and they had some people like cut like some ufologists and experts come in to like

[00:58:20] talk to the kids and stuff and they all had roughly the same story but there was like

[00:58:24] it's sort of like up in the air as to whether or not they were led on or like the kids kind of

[00:58:28] like because some of the details didn't fully add up and so like was it just like the kids like

[00:58:34] they sort of like not purposefully specifically but like they sort of accidentally like kind of

[00:58:39] talked to each other about what the story was uh what what the uh the events were

[00:58:44] so yeah that that definitely is a thing especially when you're dealing with children and memories

[00:58:48] like that so yeah the thing is like yes that's a thing with children but again the

[00:58:54] your example is them being interviewed as children yeah that's for ufo

[00:59:01] so I was also I was also that technically that my example was trying to help you

[00:59:07] yeah exactly well but at the same time like kids make up stuff all the time yeah

[00:59:14] but um anyway the overall it's still only a partial recommendation for me okay you

[00:59:21] still cared for it a little bit yeah all right uh but yeah I guess and uh next up we have gamer

[00:59:28] your final thoughts and recommendations yeah so um for me I really like the read honestly um

[00:59:35] there was a good bit of setup before like the creep actually happened but it kept my attention

[00:59:39] the whole time yeah due to the fact that the start of the story is talking about how sachi

[00:59:44] was like a happy person but really depressed and I wanted to find out why and that kind of like

[00:59:49] kept me hooked the whole time but to figure out what the problem was yeah um

[00:59:55] the friend group actually felt like a friend group which is good because sometimes

[00:59:59] you know they don't feel like real people yeah uh kind of what you were saying earlier

[01:00:02] like it felt like it the character group was fleshed out without describing the characters

[01:00:07] physically yeah like you could replace any of them with people that you actually know

[01:00:12] and it works you know yeah but uh yeah um I like their whole like back story together

[01:00:22] and all that um and the creep factor of the spirit was like pretty legit when I actually showed up

[01:00:27] it wasn't like hostile towards them or anything no it was technically a one-sided buddy horror

[01:00:34] because like the creature wanted to be buddies with its other brothers and sisters but they were

[01:00:40] scared of him because of because of how he looked and so that is like yeah yeah like I yeah

[01:00:44] like you want like this character is not really a hostile like the spear this is why I'm thinking

[01:00:49] like well I mean he's dead now um but like that's why I was thinking like Abraham may end up being the

[01:00:56] villain versus over the spirit like the spirit in this is more of a tragic character rather than

[01:01:01] an antagonistic monster yeah because for all we know it could still be a spirit but he could know

[01:01:07] that the orphanage is haunted and he's like bound the spirit somewhere but it occasionally

[01:01:14] gets out yeah or we're gonna we're gonna get some uh some like more light shed on their past

[01:01:20] and it's revealed that like Padre wasn't actually all that great just like they just suppressed a

[01:01:26] bunch of memories about that and like uh and then they're gonna find out that like there wasn't

[01:01:33] an eighth orphan who was killed by the by father Abraham or something like I don't I don't want

[01:01:38] again like not to speak ill of the dead fictional or otherwise but I mean there's some like I have

[01:01:47] some suspicions about about the Padre yeah for sure yeah that's basically um the end of my final

[01:01:55] thoughts I still fully recommend it I like it a lot cool uh then yeah that'll be two full

[01:02:00] recommendations and one partial recommendation and uh I think we all look forward to checking out

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