ADR - Episode 528: Patient Sigma

[00:00:00] Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis. I'm Review Cultist. I'm Mikey the East End for Evil. And where have you been? What are you guys talking about? Yeah, I'm the Gamer in Yellow. Where the hell have you been? You were gone all last week.

[00:00:18] What do you mean what do I mean? You weren't here. Oh, right. Yeah, I went to go see some family in Left Town. What was with the package that you sent, Mikey? Package? What? Yeah, it had a notepad in it.

[00:00:37] But like chronicling some weird events that happened to you. Everything is fine. Everything is fine. Fine. Everything is fine. Yeah, no, I guess it's... Yeah, I don't know. Like something weird. But... That's not a red flag at all. Everything is fine.

[00:00:56] That's not a red flag at all. That's not a red flag at all. There's no one there. There's no, there's no, red flag at all. Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis. I'm Review Cultist. I'm Mikey the East End for Evil. And I'm the Gamer in Yellow.

[00:01:30] And we're here to discuss those internet stories. Most creepy and most pasta and be critically silly doing it. And tonight we have Patient Sigma. Another story in the Won't Think Straight Saga. So yeah, this is another story in the Won't Think Straight Saga.

[00:01:49] I can't remember which one it is numbered wise because again, the Won't Think Straight Saga has a weird way of like numbering stuff. But this is after... This is the story after notes as it kind of lets us know right off the hop. So this should be six.

[00:02:10] So this should be six? Okay, yeah. Even though it says at the bottom of six is memories, but that's because it doesn't take into account the story that you're on now. Yes. Okay. And yeah, this is by Won't Think Straight.

[00:02:25] It's on Reddit No Sleep along with all the other Won't Think Straight stories. We'll have a link for the archived list of stories. And yeah, let's just get right into it with our initial recommendations. I'm gonna recommend it. You seem apprehensive about that.

[00:02:47] I'm going to partially recommend it. And I will recommend it. Okay. Well, let's see why we kind of gave it like the trepiditious, partial, and then just a full recommendation. Starting with the rundown featuring Won't Think Straight... Or I guess Won't Think Straight. Clive.

[00:03:09] Well, yes it is Clive, but first it's Won't Think Straight. Okay. First it is WTS. So we're back with Won't Think Straight stories. And Won't Think Straight starts the story with a current update to the entry that happened last time. So notes.

[00:03:32] It seems Emily's parents are experiencing strange things in Emily's room with her dolls. And fortunately they've managed to keep that door closed for now. So I guess we'll find out maybe in the future what that has... What's going on there? Maybe.

[00:03:50] But that's not relevant really to the story at hand as Won't Think Straight is now onto the main event. This story comes from Clive, a friend of WTS's mother. And they are a psychoanalyst for criminal maniacs. And they specifically delve into what makes them tick.

[00:04:16] And PS also the name has been changed to protect people's identities and such. So the story is of a time when Clive was brought in by the military to look into a soldier who had gone very bad and strange. And they've codenamed him Patient Sigma.

[00:04:38] Sigma was a good soldier and practically an American hero until he was injured by a mortar blast and was dead for about three minutes. Even after these events which he did recover from, he went back into the military though he began suffering very nasty dreams.

[00:05:00] One morning he was found in his barracks with his whole squad dead and being cannibalized by Patient Sigma who was just also screaming about things watching him as he ate his dead squadmates. When military police subdued him, he went into a non-responsive state.

[00:05:26] Not a coma, but simply tied down to a bed. He would not respond to any kind of interaction at all and just stare at the corner in his cell, not eating or sleeping, just always watching that corner.

[00:05:45] When Clive comes into the picture, he also had very little luck interacting with Sigma no matter how he tried. Though he did notice that Sigma would start talking to himself at night on surveillance cameras. And also scream if he stepped in his line of vision.

[00:06:04] Yes, if Clive blocked the corner, Sigma would just start screaming. So after several failed attempts to listen in on these nightly conversations that Sigma was having, Clive eventually gets some night vision goggles and sneaks up to the cell.

[00:06:26] It's here that he discovers Sigma is speaking to something in the corner rather than himself and when Clive looks over to that corner, he sees three demonic goat heads coming out of the wall.

[00:06:40] He gets noticed by the demons and this whole event terrifies him enough to flee the cell and resign from the case. And shortly after this flee from the cell, the cell goes up in flames along with Sigma.

[00:06:59] This story was told to WTS directly from Clive who while being interviewed with the story, never stopped looking at the corner of the room themselves. Finn. So that was our rundown for patient Sigma.

[00:07:21] As always again, as I said before, you can check it out on Red Nose Sleep. And without further ado, we should move on to... Everyone tolerates the Grammy Inquisitions. At this point, I've got a couple. I'm going to start with this one here.

[00:07:40] As a former clinical psychoanalyst, he has witnessed his fair share of the strange, but his most unforgettable is the terrifying case of patient Sigma. And that's from the end of paragraph one after a separation line with all the like the spoilery, like the update about the previous story.

[00:07:59] But then we move on to the next paragraph. A couple of years ago, he received an unusual and irresistible request from the military to investigate the case of patient Sigma. And this is at the end of the second paragraph. And I don't...

[00:08:15] Maybe I'm just being a little nitpicky or something like that. Or like maybe this isn't a problem, but it sort of feels like an unnecessary repetition to me. Um... Like maybe it's just because both paragraphs end with patient Sigma,

[00:08:28] like kind of being like them being kind of like brought up like the case of patient Sigma. Um... But also they kind of say the same thing over and over a little bit. Like there's a little bit more information added in the second paragraph,

[00:08:43] but otherwise it's the same thing. They could have just been the same paragraph or fused as the same paragraph I feel. That's fair. Okay. Then I'll move on to my... Yeah, okay. Gamer, are you agreeing or are you just like biting your tongue? Yeah, it's fine. Okay, cool.

[00:09:12] Then I'll move on to the next thing. Five days in, his entire platoon failed to show up after Reveille. Reve... Reveille. So I had to look this word up, Reveille, because I was like, what the fuck is that?

[00:09:32] So according to Wikipedia and also dictionary.com and stuff like that, it's basically the use of a loud instrument in the military to wake the troops up in the morning. That's what they call that event at that time. Yeah, the bugle call, yeah.

[00:09:48] Or they use like other loud metallic like horns or drums to wake up the troops. Kind of thing in the morning. I just never heard... I don't feel like I've ever heard that term. Same, because I always hear it as like bugle call or whatever.

[00:10:05] Or just hear it, just in whatever movie I'm watching. Yeah, it's the... Yeah, that kind of thing. So I just learned a new word, I guess, like in terms of like military slang or terms. But that is my grammar position honestly. So, Mikey, these stands for Reveille.

[00:10:27] I have a conjunction junction. And next stop, conjunction junction. It was at this point that Clive was brought in to help find answers. It's beige, but I have a cunning idea. It didn't take much more for him to hand in his notice shortly thereafter.

[00:10:55] And he's not sure whether that something is looking for a way back or having escaped is looking to roam free. Finn. So it's a demonic beige color that's escaped? He's looking for answers. The answer is beige. Yeah, the answer is beige. I have a great idea.

[00:11:19] I'm going to quit. Like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got an idea. You go that way. I'll go home. Yeah. I was the first thing he could have done if that was the case. Yeah. That's definitely a nope scenario, like a nope story. Yeah. It was beige. Nope.

[00:11:46] Fuck you, banality. I spent four or five years in high school. I am not dealing with those wall colors again. And in builder's beige. Yeah, that's what happens when Mikey strings a bunch of sentences together.

[00:12:06] That's the start of the word that they probably shouldn't like it's in their butts. It's always better words to use. Indeed. Sometimes get hilarious story. Yeah, this one was pretty funny. Just like like it was like nope.

[00:12:27] But yeah, I guess we'll move on to the grammar in yellow. No. No, okay. Oh, I didn't get anything. All right. Then I suppose we'll move on to actual thoughts. So I'm going to start with... First off, I'm going to start with...

[00:12:41] I'm going to bring up the update at the beginning of the story. So it's just like it's an update about the previous story and what's happening with Emily's parents and whatnot. And then it has like spoiler, like here's like a stuff that's happening and then end of spoiler

[00:13:00] and then it cuts to like a horizontal line that separates that section from the actual story at hand and goes into the actual story at hand. I actually kind of like this mention of this update from the previous story,

[00:13:14] mainly because it just like it kind of teases a potential sequel to that story. And it doesn't have anything to do with the story that we're actually reading for today. But if you've been following along like kind of how we've been following along

[00:13:33] with the things straight stories, it's sort of a nice little like kind of like attachment to the story that's coming next just as a... Just for like anybody who has been reading and following along the series of stories. Although I'm not going to lie.

[00:13:53] When I first opened up this preview pasta and like in bold, it's like spoiler end of spoiler with a paragraph in there. I'm like, uh, am I supposed to read that or not read that? Is that spoiling the story up ahead as like a content warning thing? Yeah.

[00:14:11] You got spicy on the Discord chat with me like about it. Like I was like, oh great. Gamers not going to like the story because this is like already like spoiled his mood. Spoilers spoiled by mood. Yeah. Yeah. I was just very shocked by the all caps spoilers.

[00:14:29] Yeah. No, it don't know if it's necessary to have it as like loud and concerning as that. Cause yeah, it's a spoiler for the previous story, but like, I don't know. It's just so loud.

[00:14:43] We also kind of get that in like the first line like first, first an update from Emily's family via Brad for the previous story, which is linked. So like maybe they could have added like if you wish read that first before reading the update. Yeah, already. Yeah.

[00:15:00] And again, after I freaked out and asked you if this is a spoiler to this story or something else, I re-read it slower and I realized like it does straight up say what it is.

[00:15:13] It's just as soon as you open it up and there's a huge all caps spoiler thing. That's what got me on the offensive or defensive whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I personally did not like it. Okay, that's good.

[00:15:31] In fact, I feel like it adds more to the previous story that should have been in the previous story. But this was put in after the posting of that. Yeah. But I mean, we do get mentioned in the note story that there are dolls,

[00:15:52] but there's no mention that they're creepy dolls. They're not creepy dolls now. They're creepy balls now. They weren't before. Yeah. And that's the thing. I feel like that would have elevated the previous story had it been in the previous story and not tacked onto this one. That's fair.

[00:16:11] The way it is done here though, it's like it's adding to immersion. Because it's an ongoing story that's happening. And the previous stories didn't just stop. Those things are still continuing. And this is just a mini update from that. Yeah.

[00:16:28] Well, my issue is that when I read it, I was wondering how will this tie into this story? Me too. Spoiler, it didn't. No. It's just sort of a teaser trailer for something coming up or that was from the previous thing.

[00:16:50] Sort of like a teaser trailer for a movie before you're about to watch a movie. But you're about to watch something else. It's not a teaser trailer, it's the end credit scene for the previous one. Here's the thing.

[00:17:04] A mini credit scene in the opening credits of the next movie. Yeah. Yeah. Here's the thing. I'm kind of with you, Mikey, on this. I feel like you could... I'm not 100% sure on how editing posts work on Reddit No Sleep.

[00:17:23] I probably should know that more than I do. But so I'm like... Because honestly my first instinct to correct this might be even to take this spoiler part and make it an update at the very bottom of notes. Yeah. A story.

[00:17:43] But again, I don't know if you can actually edit once you've posted something on Reddit No Sleep or if you have to delete the whole thing and restart kind of thing. That's true. Somebody who's more knowledgeable might be want to let us know in the comments. Yeah.

[00:18:00] But yeah. Because it does kind of feel like it should be an update on the actual story it's brought up. It's bringing up, not... But I can also see it as like... It's a nice little kind of tease.

[00:18:14] Oh, there's going to be more stories in this clearly continuous set of stories that are kind of connected through just won't think straights, like realization that he has a weird place around him. He attracts weirdness. It adds to the kind of connective or standalone complex

[00:18:38] aspect of the story where it's like, it's a series of standalone stories that have a single connection to them. That being the writer. Yeah. Overall, I personally liked it though. Yeah. The intro part because it adds to the ARG of it and him

[00:19:01] saying, I'm adding this because so many of you are asking. So like in the comments of the previous one, people were asking a whole bunch in the time that it took them to write the next one. So he's like, I'll just add that in because there's actual

[00:19:13] engagement happening. Yeah. There's a continuity here of the serialization of these stories. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I see it from that angle but I also see what Mike is saying. This could also be updated there but for us it's fine here.

[00:19:31] If this happened all the time, it would feel better but if it's only happening in this one and no others, it's an outlier. Yeah. Though that said like he does mention, he does have a habit of bringing up previous stories like right before he starts the next story.

[00:19:46] That's true. So yeah, the past two said like after the events of this, this happened. Yeah. Honestly since the very beginning, he's been doing that. Yeah. So this was just the most dramatic because it's like a full on like paragraph update. Mm-hmm.

[00:20:02] Yeah, because all the other ones are basically saying like just after that I got in touch with this person and they told me this where this is like actual progression of a previous story in the next one which is neat but odd.

[00:20:16] So I agree with both of you. Yeah. We can all go to prom together. Yeah. Actually and speaking of, I'm still on this part for my actual first actual thought, not just the mention of this this intro but with the quote here.

[00:20:34] I'll provide an update if something unusual scratch that more unusual happens. So yeah, the first unusual like if something unusual is unusual is like is crossed through with a line and then it says more unusual happens dot dot dot.

[00:20:52] So I actually like this little like crossed out word bit even if it might not make any sense in an entry that is where you could just like you could simply like Backspace. Yeah, backspace and then put it because I'm a sucker for

[00:21:07] like that kind of attitude in writing. Yeah, I went back and forth on this one a lot. Yeah. This is like first thing I thought was the same thing like you just hit backspace but like if it just

[00:21:18] if it adds so much more by seeing that it's there and he wanted to say that but no, it doesn't make sense because it's already unusual. So yeah, Yeah, like so like I dig the tood and the vibe but like

[00:21:32] it's it doesn't make sense grammatically but it's fine the way it is to me. So yeah, but onto the actual story at hand with my quotes and comments and such. So this first quote here. The squad captain marched angrily to the barracks

[00:21:52] to find out why upon entering the room he was hit full full he was hit full force by a squirrel. He was hit full force with the gruesome sight with the gruesome sight of blood splattered walls and half eaten body strewn all over.

[00:22:12] All right, I was curious about where this was going to go especially when it was mentioning like the stories from like a psychoanalyst and so I was wondering it's like it was going to be more like we're going to we're sort of like seeing like him and his

[00:22:26] patient like delving into the mind of a serial killer kind of thing and then it just goes straight up into like a gorth scene like the of like what the guy did is like now we're getting somewhere now we're getting more visceral.

[00:22:39] And yeah, this is just like full on like that actually got me a little excited because I mean not to say that like a psychoanalyst thing like wouldn't be exciting. It's just I was there's a certain type of like subtlety

[00:22:51] when you're doing that kind of stuff over like just straight up showing like how why like showing the results of like why this guy is patient Sigma. So now would you have preferred it if this was mentioned like okay theoretically if he was able

[00:23:07] to talk to Sigma and like Sigma was saying shit and was lying or whatever like basically making this a different story basically and he said like no they just they captured me for no reason. I didn't do anything wrong and then like cut to him

[00:23:21] like looking at the file in his file it said that. Yeah, I think that actually be really fun too or like maybe even like he's like the first day he's like trying to get like maybe in the entry like in his like first entries like tried

[00:23:35] try getting anything out of patient Sigma today nothing day one hard hard to believe this this this coma patient who's not a coma patient did all this based on how he is now it's like it's like a something must have triggered him

[00:23:54] or something like go into that kind of thing. That might that might be interesting if it was like all blog it was all like entry form rather than like us being having it summarized. Yeah, but I don't I still like it the way it is.

[00:24:10] There could have been more like analyzing him considering as a psychoanalyzed. Yeah, and then some even more interesting thing that like I feel like the military did not like I mean I can understand why they might like be skeptical

[00:24:26] about it but it's like sort of one a couple things that like they just kind of let go let let pass on the on patient Sigma as they're like apprehending him so here's the quote one of the other MPs observed that as Sigma was being carried away

[00:24:42] a Sigma was being carried out he was struggling wildly and crying out in pain large animal like bite marks appeared over his body dripping with saliva and mixing with blood. Okay, so that's even more interesting phantom bite marks are happening on his body as he's

[00:24:58] being apprehended and take it away. Oh I don't know those were being formed as large animal like bite marks appeared over his body dripping appeared not. I feel like that like that kind to me that insinuates that they're appearing in front of them.

[00:25:19] But maybe I'm wrong like maybe but like maybe he's just not clear enough. Yeah, I assume it's just he had those bite marks on him is what they say would they still be dripping with saliva mixing in with the blood. Yeah, I did find that weird.

[00:25:36] Yeah, that's why I like that's one of the other like reasons why I thought it was like oh these are happening while they're taking away it's like you're just being the guys like Kara was like the fuck. Also makes a lot more sense your way to be honest.

[00:25:50] Yeah, that's why he's like screaming. Thank you for screaming before but now he is because they're taking him away and the demon is trying to hold him back. Yeah, or or just biting him as he's being taken away. Like just for sure.

[00:26:05] Not even like just like they're just like following him and just biting him like all three goat heads are just like biting him invisibly. Maybe that's why the goat head is in the room with them because it basically bit on to when it was being dragged into the

[00:26:19] room with him. Yes, it's just like. Kind of makes him adorable hilarious though. I've been watching a lot of has been watching a lot of the people that I know who are like the real world. So, you know, I've been watching a lot of

[00:26:36] people that I know who are like the real world. And like, I'm not sure if you can tell and like hell of a boss lately which are like these cartoon shows about hell. Yeah, I just now see this this three headed like goat demon as one of the

[00:26:49] characters from hell of a. Yeah, like a cartoony version of him just like with tail dragging on the ground as they're carrying this guy away. Exactly because they even go to the house and they're like, I don't know what to do with this guy.

[00:27:03] Anyway, I guess that's a connection the connective tissues time thing frankly, I guess. Also fun fact in various parallel investigation circles. Demonic hauntings do have instances where like people just exhibit like sudden spontaneous bite marks and claw marks on their on their victims.

[00:27:21] So like on some of the investigators when they're investigating like a haunting that's supposed to be like demonically haunted. Supposedly like claw marks just like randomly appear on person's body or like bite marks appear on their on their body as well. So it's sort of

[00:27:39] like hinted at like the more demonic trait situation that's happening here for me like at this point with like the bite marks. Yeah, but I'll move on to the next thing here. So this is from the I think the first entry of pressure

[00:27:55] probably brought up the time stamp of the journal entries. Yeah, this is from Tuesday 17 August. Initial assessment is acute post traumatic stress syndrome combined with hyper psychosomatic hysteria. There must be more to this than meets the eye. Clearly this is the work of the Decepticons. Of course. Sorry

[00:28:21] I could not resist. As soon as I read there must be more than meets the eye. I just recently watched Rise of the Beast more connected tissues. Yeah, it's just connected tissues all the way down guys. Mikey Oh, I just found a grammar in position.

[00:28:41] So the very next sentence PTSD which is capitalized rarely involves cannibalism and spontaneous by Mark Woon. So and is capitalized which makes you think that because the previous one is capitalized and is an acronym that and is an acronym. No, I would have taken that as like and

[00:29:05] like how we emphasized and there. I would not have gone with the A and D being it but you do you boo. It doesn't need to be capitalized it doesn't need to be but emphasis emphasis man Would you rather it be italics I sure as hell wouldn't yeah

[00:29:29] bowl just like spoiler end of spoiler. Yeah, exactly. I guess you could go with that because honestly that's how I kind of see it like you would be able to see that that was like definitely like emphasis if this is like in a written

[00:29:45] journal kind of thing is like and like emphasis to that and there. Yeah, or underline it or something. Yeah, exactly. Which I guess could be it finally a use for that underline part of along with like bolding and dreaded italics actually appreciate the italics in this one though.

[00:30:08] How dare you did you not I guess it's fine. I just didn't care I honestly did like I just okay. All right, so it's italic all the entries are italics. Okay. I noticed them but I was like they didn't really

[00:30:26] I guess it's like oh just to like kind of give some signify that these are written bits rather than like yeah, they're fine. It's pretty cool. It's just also I'm just I'm still trying to recover from the fact that you liked them but

[00:30:44] but I'll move on to the next thing. Sigma is still unresponsive and has not eaten for the past few days muscle mass clearly deteriorating would it be clearly deteriorated what does muscle mass clearly be deteriorating only after only a few days of not eating is that like

[00:31:04] what are you about eating itself yeah, but what it yeah but like I guess like if he's a pretty lean like dude like he's a soldier like they they're supposed to be like fairly like muscle muscle than like and not a whole lot of fat

[00:31:16] right like or that there's at least they're supposed to be the ideal version so I suppose like maybe it would be noticeable from somebody who's not doesn't have a lot of fat on them because like that's where the first thing that the body starts cannibalizing first

[00:31:30] but yeah, so it would be noticeable that the definition on the muscles would be lessened definitely yeah, I just was like muscle mass clearly deteriorating it's like would it be clearly deteriorating or is just like am I being too nitpicky here yes, okay

[00:31:52] I'll move on to the next thing I have you haven't eaten stopped eating for three days and just lied there I mean you're right I haven't I'll move on to the next thing I have have managed to borrow night vision goggles from contact from contact in unit supply

[00:32:20] state of the art active infrared military grade hardware and then later on we get this after a few moments Clive realized that patient zero or patient Sigma was not talking to himself but the corner of the room curiosity got the better of him

[00:32:38] and he stretched his neck to look there sticking out of the wall was sticking out of the wall were three monstrous goat like heads liquid dripping from their maws talking back to patient Sigma so it brings up later that the theory is when Sigma was

[00:32:58] temporarily dead he may have brought something back with him he came back to life but with Clive having the night vision goggles it brought to mind another story entirely involving the military so here's my connective tissues time I'm not sure if this is a creepy

[00:33:18] pasta or this is just like a conspiracy theory kind of story that's been brought up and is only like existed for like the last little while but I've heard some stories in the past like the last couple of months even like here from several different

[00:33:32] like several different people bringing up this thing that apparently happened in the Vietnam war when they were testing night vision goggles like early versions of night vision goggles for night runs and flights in Vietnam now at the American military and such and

[00:33:50] they first used goggles with a very specific red lens and pilots and soldiers who began using those goggles began shooting up into the air or firing up in the sky while they were piloting and so and trying to dodge invisible things because they were reporting that they were

[00:34:08] seeing demons flying through the sky through the lenses like like as they were seeing these things through the lenses and they were reporting specifically demonic forms flying around above in the skies above Vietnam and the goggles eventually got changed out with a different type of lens

[00:34:28] and that's why we use green lenses rather than red apparently in night vision goggles again I'm not sure if this is just a creepypasta or like an urban legend kind of thing that's been that's just kind of made the rounds but

[00:34:42] it's popped up a couple of times on my various feeds I have and I just thought it was kind of interesting that like the character here is like using night vision goggles while looking at we're looking into this cell in this military base and finding it seeing demons

[00:34:56] so I bring this up because what if Clive saw the demons because of his state of the art night vision goggles and Sigma was seeing them simply as a result of his perception or brain chemistry being tweaked by being as a result of being temporarily dead

[00:35:14] so like this is more this isn't so much that he brought something back from hell with him or from the afterlife with him this is more like from beyond situation where the demon things are always here are always there with us just in a

[00:35:28] slightly out of phase sort of situation like they're always invisible and they can't really hurt us because we can't see them or perceive them but but unless now that because these characters have been like augmented like their perception of reality has been augmented in some way

[00:35:42] now they're able to see them and now they can't unsee them kind of thing I mean that's possible but it's hard to tell from reading it it's assumed that basically just the demon hides from sight in the light when people are watching

[00:36:01] and he came out of the wall to talk to him in the middle of the night because there was no one there and the only reason he was able to see him through the night vision is simply because it's dark and the demon

[00:36:11] believed that there was no one else there true and then it wasn't until he gassed in horror that the demon then like looked to him and like you've been seen bitch and now at the end of the story when like he's like being interviewed by WTS and

[00:36:27] at no point does his eyes stray away from the corner behind I presume behind WTS so like now like that he's seen the creatures he can't unsee them or maybe he's just paranoid of the corners like he's expecting them to pop out of the corners now

[00:36:43] yeah it could be either yeah I just thought it was an interesting thing because again in my mind like from like a couple of different like sources of media and such and I was like what if this wasn't like something that we dragged to hell

[00:36:57] or like dragged back up what if it was like something that's just always around us and we just don't perceive it normally kind of thing but yeah just a theory a creepypasta theory thanks for this sure watch it yeah um

[00:37:16] and then I'll move on to my last one wherever the truth lies I don't uh wherever the truth lies I do know this throughout our whole conversation Clive never once took his eyes off the corner of the room dun dun dun

[00:37:32] another one of those like little like kind of uh Twilight Zone or like Outer Limit style kind of like zinger endings where it's like and here's this thing not as not as big as the other ones I feel but like it was still kind of like a like

[00:37:48] sort of like a it also reminded more of like a freaky story sort of like twist ending kind of thing but um yeah this is probably this is probably just because Clive is is paranoid now of corners after what he saw or maybe uh he

[00:38:08] now sees the goat headed demon in the corner like he's now seeing it in the corner because it's latched onto him since Sigma is now dead yeah it's basically targeted to him now yeah so he's being haunted now by the by the things rather than

[00:38:24] uh now that Sigma is gone so I honestly like this ending because what basically it's finally come back to WTS like there's creepy shit happening around him directly now yes all the other stories is just people telling him shit while they're having coffee or whatever the hell

[00:38:44] but and yes this story is someone telling him a story but for all he knows there's literally a demon behind in the entire time yeah exactly this is it's not like it's not quite it happened to a friend of a friend of mine

[00:38:58] kind of story where like um like he's being told this by somebody but it happened to somebody else which is the case in the last couple this one is actually like he's interviewing the guy that this happened to and while they're having this discussion

[00:39:14] while the story is being told to WTS he may also be in the story now as a result and if the demon is actually like listening to what's going on he knows that WTS knows his story so he might be marked by him now too

[00:39:32] yeah it's kind of like there's a lot of movies like nowadays that kind of do that thing where like like something like the supernatural thing is afflicting a victim at the start of the movie and then like the creature then like hops, bodies either after

[00:39:46] the person dies or after they like flee or escape because they've passed on the supernatural presence or thing to another person kind of thing and then by the end like either the main character dies or they're quickly injured and they think that everything's good like

[00:40:04] they think that they've uh dealt away with the creature only for it to pass over to like their best friend or somebody like close to them yeah it's an STD it's a supernaturally transmitted demon yeah or it's I don't it's like the STD like yeah the supernatural

[00:40:22] uh it's it's yeah it's kind of like uh the I think I'm thinking like the creature from like things like smile um not quite it follows because it follows like requires something a little bit more intimate to pass over the the plague or pass over the STD

[00:40:38] um or the STK the supernaturally transmitted killer yeah uh but yeah um it's it's definitely like kind of um uh it's definitely that kind of thing like an STD I like that supernaturally transmitted demon yeah yeah it's very that's definitely like

[00:40:58] a classification for a certain type of like movie monster in movies uh in the last couple of like in the last decade or two mm-hmm but yeah um that that's honestly all I have for this story so uh Mikey the Stents for Evil what do you

[00:41:16] have for your actual thoughts uh so my number one beef is the corner so it doesn't state which corner that the character is staring at like most rooms have four corners so uh so just saying it's the corner it's like okay well which one

[00:41:48] like is the corner close to the door is the northwest corner like does it matter um well from a science perspective it does so like this demon over here like science to the supernatural well but he's the guy's a psychologist right so he should note which corner

[00:42:18] the patient sigma is staring at okay that's not just the corner like is there only one corner in this room then that's not a room how dare it could be like a very it could be like there's one corner and then the rest

[00:42:32] of the room is just curved circular room that goes to a point in one side it's like a teardrop sort of shit yeah exactly what I was thinking um yeah like this this could be it could almost be like uh the hounds of

[00:42:48] Tindallos which is actually also about a people freaking out about corners because that's where the demons are the the the hounds come through is is right is various angles so um in the story they actually like uh he enters a room that has no angles

[00:43:06] or has no has no uh sharp angles like they've they've softened all the sharp angles in the room so it's just this like roundish room but yeah yeah but I do get what you're saying because like it doesn't describe the room very well

[00:43:24] it's just like he's in the room to drop to the bed staring at the corner yeah but yeah so I'm assuming just whatever corners directly in front of him yeah I mean also if you want to go like demonically I think uh I mean maybe the south corner

[00:43:40] like like the south corner or like the south east or southwest corner because like you know south being also a term for down i.e. hell I suppose there's actually a movie where that's like that's a thing like that deals with like demons in like

[00:43:58] the in the American south so I mean there is the term like things going south things going bad yeah exactly mm-hmm yeah that would be nice if it was stated but it isn't so okay yeah and that's in the my thoughts alright gamer

[00:44:23] alright what do I got here there must be more to this than meets the eye as you said before um yeah ptss rarely I should have chimed in on this when you said it but it doesn't matter ptss rarely involves cannibalism and spontaneous bite marks

[00:44:43] so it says rarely so that means it can happen probably cannibalism but I don't know about the bite mark spontaneous but also spontaneous it even mentions spontaneous bite marks so they are appearing on his body as they're trying to but the weird part here is saying like

[00:45:01] it rarely involves cannibalism and spontaneous bite mark which means like spontaneous bite mark wounds are like somewhat common like yeah yeah yeah yeah that's like in one percent of cases well actually here's the thing here's the thing actually I could not to throw a mundane

[00:45:21] mundane thing in here and ruin my entire like my entire view of the story but like but like certain people with issues like that they do bite themselves when no one's around so that could probably be mentioned on a report as a spontaneous bite marks like

[00:45:45] just like bite marks on their body that they've themselves inflicted on upon themselves but that is definitely like a symptom I think of certain mental illnesses and issues so either way my big problem here is saying rarely because like also I looked up PTSD

[00:46:07] since I didn't really know it was a thing because like we always hear about PTSD specifically and PTSD is basically through my crappy googling the symptoms that happen within like the first month of a traumatic event all of which aren't as severe as PTSD

[00:46:23] effects so if he's going through cannibalism in the first stage of this it's just gonna get real bad after a month if this all sets in you know that's right yeah you know it's worse than cannibalism auto cannibalism where you eat yourself I.e. spontaneous bite marks

[00:46:45] yeah a little bit we're talking about pizza the hut here yes pizza the hut definitely suffer from PTSD and spontaneous human consumption got to yeah no yeah anyway my whole point here is like a. rarely seems weird to put there because it seems like again I don't know

[00:47:11] a whole bunch about PTSD but like I from what I gather they're not severe symptoms and I feel like cannibalism is a severe symptom so you should be saying like basically PTSD does not involve severe symptoms like cannibalism but here we are like I don't know

[00:47:37] maybe there's like there are rare cases of it hence why he said rarely it might also just be a generalized use of that word just like for the like maybe it's a a misuse of the word maybe I don't know

[00:47:57] but again I'm not an authority on this so I can't really say one way or another I just felt it strange when I googled what that means I'll move on right so this is I was reading the hypothesis this afternoon it stood directly in front of Sigma's vision

[00:48:20] Sigma immediately began screaming loud and frightening stepped away and Sigma resumed Catatonic State spent 10 minutes examining the corner that Sigma stares at its beige like that's only got after 10 minutes wow I feel like you can tell that in a first second regardless yep that's definitely a beige wool

[00:48:42] it's like used to tan I don't know maybe it's yellow or like boring yellow oh dear you beige is definitely a boring yellow yeah a little bit but regardless could that have a common effect on Sigma will require further observation so first off

[00:49:02] he does not do any further observation second off I thought what he was gonna do was like get someone on the base to make like a smaller copy of the wall and push in front of the other wall and see if he still screams in pain

[00:49:16] yeah I kind of an image that popped into my head as we were talking about this is just him doing the ace ventura like oh just like stepping in front of it and then stepping back out stepping back in front of it and stepping back out

[00:49:32] as he gets to like just fucking love you okay that's definitely having an effect that's all in minutes until he comes to that uh-uh conclusion I'm a god yeah base ventura is this character he's been changed God damn it Clive is now ace ventura yeah

[00:50:00] or is just Jim Carrey in like as an ace ventura-esque character yeah but I'll move on in regards to so we get to the journals and I like the journals they're simple they have um italics which I love in this one instance yeah apparently

[00:50:22] okay I like the italics because you can clearly tell it's not uh WTS just recounting things and they're all like line breakouts so it's all separated nicely yeah you know I realize why you like it and why it works for you because everything in that in the blurbs

[00:50:42] are italics it's not one or the other can't miss it yeah exactly that's probably why he like why you like it aesthetically is like because it's not one word that's like hidden because of the italics everything is italist in that blurbs yep it's for a purpose yeah

[00:51:04] but um so yeah we get those and then last one where he's like I'm gonna go sneak in see what happened and then it stops doing journals yep it says that was the last of in cloud journals he had abruptly resigned the following morning

[00:51:22] the way I first saw that was like in the Lord of the Rings episode from South Park when token volunteers to watch the one tape see what mystical powers it has and he comes back out in his normal clothes instead of his medieval outfit

[00:51:36] and he's like I'm not playing anymore I don't know what was on that I don't want to know I met and then watch away yeah okay now that you brought up so far I can I have a I can insert this part

[00:51:48] did you whenever when it first brought up Clive were you also bring up is like Clive Clive we lost Clive yeah that's exactly what happened I didn't think that but now I can't yeah that's the first thing I came up with

[00:52:02] I was like I'm not gonna mention this unless the camera does but like because you don't want to be the one to bring up so far yeah exactly that's fair but yeah there are certain names that have just been ruined because of South Park yeah thanks South Park

[00:52:18] yeah yeah for me thinking about it like if the story just ended here and like it would have been kind of cool and not have more stuff to us you know just like he resigned that following morning we don't know what happened like yeah if he did not

[00:52:38] tell Nair because clearly like why we're getting this part is because like this is part of the interview he had with Nair about what happened like after the journal entries right so yeah but it could be Nair got all this information like from the military

[00:52:52] like from a military contact not from Clive himself it would be even it might even be better I don't know if this is something you're even if it is well redacted and you can go jump in even cooler is like it stops

[00:53:06] here like he doesn't mention anything about what he saw but it does end with the last quote where he's staring at the corner of the wall the whole time yeah like he resigned the following no I didn't say that but yeah cool like he resigned

[00:53:23] the following morning and then people went and checked on him but he just wouldn't leave his room he's like staring at the corner in his apartment all day long yeah that'd be kind of cool like now he's yeah I mean it would like kind of give us blueballs

[00:53:39] a little bit in regards to like we want to know what's going on on the one hand blue balls yeah the other hand it does insert a a bit more mystery to what the fuck he saw yeah but also like there's there's no confirmation

[00:53:55] that it's supernatural at that point because it could just be literally psychosis yeah for sure but I don't know if that makes it better or worse keeping it super vague yeah it's sort of a it's always a fine line right yeah for sure you don't know

[00:54:13] like how effective it's going to be unless you try or like see which one works or not kind of thing and then my last go ahead because I mean like if that had been the story like our views might be different

[00:54:30] of it is like or we might be complaining that there's not like it didn't actually have a supernatural ending it could all be explained through psychological veins for sure like now we're like like we dig the supernatural stuff but we're still talking to them well I mean

[00:54:42] might have been cooler if it was actually more mundane or maybe not more mundane but like left a an air of mystery but it's it's the old story you damned if you knew you damned if you don't yeah please everyone that

[00:54:54] kind of deal so as long as you do what you want to do and you like it it's all you can do but regardless yes my last I was basically just I personally kind of wish the journal entries continued and explained what happened in them instead of

[00:55:12] like immediately jumping to outside the journal because like it would have been a more interesting view to hear it from Clive's mouth writing down like what he saw when he woke up the next morning and like his sudden fear and like like yeah

[00:55:30] his own eyes and stuff like that yeah we got like one last entry is like this my last entry for this case I will not be doing anymore fuck this noise but like along those lines kind of thing of just like

[00:55:40] like he's just giving up the case and like we would like we get that last entry kind of thing yeah or he goes like hard into this and these like I don't know what the fuck I saw I need to find it

[00:55:50] more you know and he like those starts goes with library researching demons and shit like that or something I don't know yeah also actually what if the last entry was just the corner the corner the corner the corner the corner just in repeat for like couple lines

[00:56:04] yeah or they're in the corner they're in the court they're watching from the corner they're watching the corner I was like that just repeated yeah that'd be cool because at this point like we don't really know life seems fine

[00:56:25] because he's sitting there just telling him all of this like sure he's staring at it yes but that could just be his own ptss like literally just he saw traumatic events so he's concerned to corners or maybe he's just like really socially awkward

[00:56:43] now like so he just can't stare looking anybody in the eye anymore maybe yeah this has to look off to side yeah a little bit more insanity on Clive would be nice yeah a little bit like at least show that he's shaken a bit more than

[00:56:59] like it is cool like the ending like where we get like like at no point during our conversation what did he stray from looking at the corner like maybe have a little bit more like like like fidgeting or like as if ready to like leap

[00:57:11] leap away from his chair at any moment kind of thing I'm also surprised that like military let him go and he's like free to just tell whoever the hell he wants about this shit I mean they might go on the whole like situation much like delta green

[00:57:27] it's like who's gonna believe you no one's gonna believe you I guess yeah granted the military doesn't even know what's going on because they apparently don't have night vision on their security cameras they also don't have audio range okay yeah the audio is also strange but like

[00:57:51] yeah like there's no one heard of but yeah there's no night vision in there so like they can't you know keep an eye on them to make sure they're not escaping in the night it seems strange or like I guess maybe it's like

[00:58:05] it like the camera unfortunately just covers like oh yeah I guess it was the night vision that was we had like that like either night vision or like maybe the camera was just showing patient Sigma not anywhere else in the room so it wasn't it was like

[00:58:23] the corners were in the blind spot of the camera I mean maybe maybe so that's the end of my notes okay then I suppose we move on to final thoughts so yeah I'm gonna recommend it I did enjoy the read with the way it was formatted and

[00:58:45] the concept behind here I like the idea of like this this marine who like came back from the dead went back on the job had a psychotic episode it seems but then it turns out that psychotic episode was induced by something demonic

[00:59:03] and the psychoanalyst is the one to find it to find out about it that's a cool idea I'm curious what the demon wants out of him he did bring up like bits that he never heard right yeah he heard him saying like he heard Clive saying

[00:59:21] while he was sneaking in there with his night vision Clive was saying like promised don't harm family leave Sarah Sarah you wrote this I knew you were also you mean Sigma was saying that not Clive yes yes yes sorry yeah it was like

[00:59:39] so like the demons were probably like torment have been tormenting him for the last few weeks or months just saying like they're going to like drag their like his family because he did have a loving family like he did have a loving wife and

[00:59:51] kid and stuff of that so yeah like he also said he did as you told so the demon probably told him to kill his whole squad yeah or they'll go and they'll go after the family yeah so yeah like I it's a really cool idea

[01:00:05] and like I dug it it's just like I guess I guess in the ultimately I still will recommend it like with no trepidation it's just like initially I was like kind of like there's there's something missing here kind of thing maybe that's because like I wanted more

[01:00:19] like the journal entries how like what you were saying there gamer yeah like we start to see character through the journal entries and we see the process of him trying to understand and then it just stopped flat yeah um and again like the the format of

[01:00:39] these these stories were like their freaky stories happened to a friend of a friend of mine by WTS I like I like like we brought up I like how this one is is more um is tied closer to to won't think straight then

[01:00:55] then some of the other ones we've heard recently like it's it's like was the uh seven degrees of Kevin Bacon it's it's like one degree of Kevin Bacon for WTS yeah for all we know when Clive dies all of a sudden WTS

[01:01:14] is going to be seeing the goat demon in the corner yeah like maybe we'll get like a sequel like where it's like well so Clive recently died in a horrible fire and now I started hearing voices and seeing something in the in the

[01:01:28] in the corner of my rooms it turns out he has to go back to uh whatever what's your name the Emily's place into the creepy room to like find out answers like this is all going to connect all the stories and with the help

[01:01:44] of uh of grumbles and bugman or was it uh was it grumbles or no it was uh uh was it giggles? it wasn't gurgles gurgles yeah with the help of gurgles and bugman yeah or gurgles and bugman is orcas is working with the demon the three

[01:02:02] headed demon goat um god yeah we're getting like I won't I don't think it's going to go that way but it would be really funny or like really fun I think more more less less serious but more fun if it all like led up to like

[01:02:16] a really big connected yeah like yeah like a really big connective story with like all with a bunch of these things coming together like coalescing back mm-hmm um I like and yeah similar to that kind of aim but like not quite

[01:02:30] um again I did I did really enjoy the mention of the uh of the update from the previous story because it helped add a little bit extra continuity and like made this feel more like a serialized thing rather than just like a bunch

[01:02:42] of disconnected stories that this guy's just telling over the course of various entries mm-hmm like there is sort of a continuity to it that as he's telling these stories he's giving updates from the previous one um so yeah I'm gonna still recommend this one

[01:02:58] Mikey these days for evil and spoiler I hate it wow and I'm talking to the spoiler yeah because because of the spoiler while reading this I was constantly waiting for the how does this connect to the previous story okay yeah okay yeah fair and because of that

[01:03:30] it ruined my experience now taking away that spoiler section and reading it I didn't have that problem mm-hmm so because of that I can only give this a partial recommendation but if the spoiler section the follow up to the previous story was put maybe at the end

[01:03:56] you would have liked it more um the end of the previous one uh well potentially because I wouldn't have that at the forefront of my mind while reading it yeah so so the like the format would be here's the new story, story over by the way

[01:04:21] this is the progression of previous events whatever they may be moving on mm-hmm yeah that might be better but then at the same time you lose the zinger at the end because you have an update at the end for a different story yeah yeah I suppose that's true

[01:04:41] once again dammit if you do dammit if you don't yep mm-hmm well fair enough um so still no record or partial recommendation yeah yeah okay then onto gamer for me um it was a short and sweet read I do wish that journals were continued

[01:05:01] with clad's findings as I said instead of it being kind of glossed over and like not in his words specifically after that point but all in all is an easy read no grammar problems that I personally found um so I wasn't stumbling over anything

[01:05:15] and like when I was taking notes I even like cut my notes down like by two or three separate instances of me writing down a note because like as soon as I brought up something I didn't understand being grammar or otherwise I looked into

[01:05:29] it more and I'm like you know what this is probably fine like like for example why didn't like Clive put a mic in the room and it was garbage and he's like shit well I guess I'll try something else and like when I

[01:05:45] write down like why don't you put a better mic in like but then again as soon as I thought that I'm like the problem isn't necessarily putting a better mic in the problem is having a better mic in without sigma knowing that you put a mic in there

[01:06:01] because he's trying to do it on the down low so it's not like he can just get the army to come in and just get a freaking step ladder and like hook up a mic to the camera or something like that or just when you

[01:06:15] boom mic over top of them you know yeah exactly like blindfold patient sigma alright just like mic test one two okay take the blindfold off wait did you put your plugs in him I mean they can seem to get away with it

[01:06:37] like they have to wheel them out to like clean the room or some shit but yeah because I mean the guy's like not eating and not sleeping but he's got to be pooping at some point or soiling himself I was just thinking maybe he's a reverse hey hey

[01:06:57] so basically you cover his head and you start screaming oh yeah you're right yeah like I know I was just thinking that too like when I said like blindfold him he just starts screaming it's like how good this will cover up this job ffff ffff ffff

[01:07:17] you won't hear it with the screams yeah that works too all in all I did like the story as I said I just wish there was more I wish you got more character from Clive it was like you started getting it and then it stopped

[01:07:35] but I'll still recommend it because I enjoyed it alright so I guess I'll make it two recommendations and one partial recommendation so that'll do it for tonight if you like what you heard or if you didn't leave a comment section below where this gets posted

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