ADR - Episode 522: Reality is Creepier than Fiction

[00:00:00] Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis. I'm Review Cultist.

[00:00:21] I'm Mikey, the East End's Fever. And I'm the Gamer in Yellow.

[00:00:25] And we're here to discuss those internet stories, most creepy and most pasta, and be

[00:00:29] critically silly doing it. And tonight we have, Reality is Creepier Than Fiction.

[00:00:36] So we are once again, traipsing into the won't think straight, no sleep creepy pastas. The

[00:00:44] one that brought us Gurgles and Bugman. And a curious mind is a terrible curse. This

[00:00:53] is part three of the series. And yeah, you can check it out at Reddit, no sleep, along

[00:00:59] with all the other entries in this, this saga by won't think straight. But our head, let's

[00:01:07] give our initial recommendations. I'm gonna conditionally partially recommend it.

[00:01:13] A conditional partial. Wow.

[00:01:16] Like, I'm gonna partially recommend it. But otherwise I might, but otherwise I probably

[00:01:24] wouldn't recommend this. So I am going to partially recommend it.

[00:01:33] Interesting. I'll recommend it. Wow, okay. Well, let's dive into this story and find

[00:01:42] out exactly why we gave such partials and then like what just like I'll recommend it.

[00:01:48] Like just like definite.

[00:01:49] Throwing you for a loop. Yeah.

[00:01:51] For this entire recording, you're gonna be questioning your own like worldview.

[00:01:55] No, I have, I like, I'll explain why like my why I'm giving it a partial recommendation

[00:02:00] like I'm bordering on like a non but um yeah. And we'll see if like maybe my

[00:02:06] my view will change. Maybe you guys can dissuade me from that.

[00:02:09] Or you could ruin it for us. Yeah. Thanks, I hate it. But yeah, well, to do that we got

[00:02:20] to go into the rundown featuring Nair because we don't have a name for a won't think

[00:02:25] straight specifically. Yeah.

[00:02:29] So we are greeted with another freaky story. Though this one didn't happen to

[00:02:35] Nair specifically, but to an aunt of a friend of Nair's.

[00:02:38] This aunt at Mary names in this story by the way have been altered to protect those

[00:02:45] involved was the cool aunt to all the for all the kids, but otherwise a

[00:02:51] spinster in the making until her 40s where she met a wonderful man named Stanley.

[00:02:56] The two were madly in love and married after two months of knowing each other.

[00:03:00] And they lived in the mansion at May's parents left for they began traveling the

[00:03:07] world shortly after their marriage as part of like their honeymoon thing.

[00:03:12] For about a year and everything seemed great, but upon returning from these trips,

[00:03:18] Aunt May or Aunt Mary, Aunt May is getting caught because it's like

[00:03:22] Spider-Man at May. The first day.

[00:03:25] And.

[00:03:27] Aunt Mary began acting very strange and treating her husband as though he wasn't

[00:03:32] her husband. In fact, she was proclaiming that Stanley wasn't Stanley, but an

[00:03:36] identical stranger. It also didn't help that she was going on about scratching

[00:03:41] sounds and someone in the house calling her name at night.

[00:03:46] Aunt Mary was eventually treated for what seemed to be the disorder Capgrass

[00:03:51] syndrome, which creates such delusions in its victims.

[00:03:56] And with Stanley's distraught, but loving help, the family decided to allow Mary

[00:04:01] to be sedated, but still live at home.

[00:04:04] Really thought you said cat grass syndrome like this.

[00:04:07] This is not if you buy for your cast to eat as like a little bit of cat nipping it.

[00:04:11] Yeah.

[00:04:13] Um, yeah, the syndrome is Capgris syndrome.

[00:04:18] Um, uh, yeah. In the time that Stanley was taken care of Mary at home,

[00:04:25] the family got to know Stanley quite well and see he seemed rather genuine,

[00:04:29] making all of this that much more tragic.

[00:04:32] And then tragedy doubled down when authorities were called out to a cliff

[00:04:37] side about a half hour drive from Mary and Stanley's home where Mary had been

[00:04:43] seen pulling a body from her car, stabbing it repeatedly before dumping it over the edge.

[00:04:49] When the police confronted her, Mary looked at them smiling before jumping off herself

[00:04:54] to her death. Things got even worse and weirder when the police searched the house

[00:05:00] and discovered a secret basement locked and where a desiccated body was found that of Stanley.

[00:05:09] See? Apparently he had been clawing at the door and died of starvation some time ago.

[00:05:15] This whole story has left Nair with a haunting revelation that perhaps Aunt Mary wasn't crazy,

[00:05:22] but actually was dealing with something quite hard to explain, some kind of doppelganger.

[00:05:29] Finn. So, uh, that was the story. Reality is creepier than fiction.

[00:05:34] Uh, I suppose we'll move now on to

[00:05:38] everyone in tolerance of grandma and positions at this point.

[00:05:42] And I've got a few. So I'm going to start with this one here.

[00:05:47] Such is the story of old Aunt Mary. Mary wasn't my aunt, but a friend of mine's.

[00:05:55] So I read this and I was like, wait, what?

[00:05:57] What? Oh, this Aunt Mary was the aunt of a friend of Nair's.

[00:06:05] Okay. I kind of, because when I first read it, it was like,

[00:06:08] Mary wasn't my aunt, but a friend of mine is how I read it.

[00:06:11] Oh, you didn't read the minds.

[00:06:14] I kind of skipped over the, the, the apostrophe S.

[00:06:16] Like I think it just said there are the apostrophe there.

[00:06:19] So I feel like there, the, so it could be like maybe clarified a little bit better

[00:06:22] than how it is so that it doesn't have that problem.

[00:06:27] So like Mary wasn't my aunt, but the aunt of a friend of mine.

[00:06:31] Yes. Yeah. Just for better clarification.

[00:06:35] Hmm. Cause yeah, I had the same sort of thing happen to just,

[00:06:39] I stumble over and like, oh, it means that.

[00:06:41] Okay. I just forgot to take note of that.

[00:06:44] Yeah. And then my next one here, this might be pedantic

[00:06:48] or it might be a nitpick, but I'm going to do it anyway.

[00:06:50] Welcome to the show.

[00:06:52] Yeah. Right.

[00:06:55] Welcome to grandma and position specifically.

[00:06:57] Hmm.

[00:06:59] That morning, Mary's body was found at the base of an ocean cliff,

[00:07:04] about a half hours drive away.

[00:07:06] Okay. So wait, I feel like found here should actually be replaced with recovered

[00:07:12] because as this paragraph goes on to explain the details of what occurred, we

[00:07:20] find that the police like had already encountered Mary before she jumped.

[00:07:25] So her body wasn't specifically found.

[00:07:28] It was recovered because they knew exactly where she was or where her body would have been when it fell.

[00:07:34] Like the way, the way just like for me in terms of like how, how it happened,

[00:07:40] like when I, when I read like her body was found is like, okay, some,

[00:07:44] like they, somebody happened upon her body, but in reality that didn't happen.

[00:07:49] Like somebody encountered her called the cops.

[00:07:51] They showed up. She then killed herself by jumping off the cliff and they had to recover the body.

[00:07:57] Like, yes, you're probably right, but for someone that is just retelling the story

[00:08:03] and isn't writing it into a newspaper article, I don't think that specificity is important.

[00:08:10] I mean, I kind of feel it is, but fair.

[00:08:15] It's just like to me, like it's, it's like that's, it's the difference between like

[00:08:19] accidentally like coming across the body and knowing where the body was and retrieving it.

[00:08:25] But yeah, hence why I said this is probably going to be a nitpick.

[00:08:30] No, either way.

[00:08:31] Okay. And I'll move on to my last one here.

[00:08:36] The license plate of the car led them back to the house where the investigation was now focused.

[00:08:42] So license plate specifically here, like license is spelled wrong.

[00:08:47] It has two C's in it. So like, L I C E N C E when it should be L I C E N S E.

[00:08:56] No, it doesn't.

[00:08:58] Yeah, it does.

[00:09:00] Oh, sorry. When you said two C's, I imagine two C's right beside each other.

[00:09:04] I'm like, wait, you're not beside each other at all.

[00:09:07] Yeah. So I should have been more clear.

[00:09:09] Yeah.

[00:09:11] But I did, I did also like spell it out after.

[00:09:14] Yeah, but I wasn't listening to you. I was trying to find it.

[00:09:19] Thanks, neighbor.

[00:09:20] You're welcome.

[00:09:22] I also always spell that word wrong. So I don't even know the right spelling of it to be honest.

[00:09:30] Yeah. But yeah, so like I, I just, I was able to grab the, also because I have

[00:09:37] the story in Google Docs when I was doing my, for my note taking and stuff. So

[00:09:42] that's how I was able to notice it. But yeah, it is a common, it is a common typo.

[00:09:46] And oh yeah, I'm using Chico, but like also it's editorying or it's editing.

[00:09:50] Oh, I know.

[00:09:51] Yeah.

[00:09:53] But that's, that's my grammar and position. So Mikey, these stands for evil.

[00:10:01] And I have a conjunction junction.

[00:10:06] And next stop, conjunction junction.

[00:10:09] But the void in her life became as cavernous as the empty rooms of her mansion.

[00:10:17] It was clear though, they were deeply in love with each other.

[00:10:23] It's a rare condition where the victim believes that someone close has been replaced

[00:10:30] with an identical imposter. So it was a total shock when they arrived at the house one day

[00:10:40] to be greeted by a squad of police cars. But solving that mystery only created a deeper one.

[00:10:51] Finn.

[00:10:52] Okay. Wow. That was very different.

[00:10:55] Yes.

[00:10:56] It's like her foster syndrome is like, or not a foster syndrome, but her,

[00:11:02] she basically is in love with the house. Yes.

[00:11:05] And then she believes that the house isn't the house that she had before. It's some other house.

[00:11:10] Yeah.

[00:11:11] It's like a mimic, you know?

[00:11:13] It's a warehouse.

[00:11:15] Yeah, it's a warehouse. There you go.

[00:11:17] And then they show up one day and they open the door and there's police cars inside the

[00:11:22] house because it said arrive at the house to be greeted with police cars.

[00:11:27] Yeah, they just crashed through the walls.

[00:11:30] Yeah, they just live in there. Yeah.

[00:11:36] Wow. That was very, yeah, as soon as like the second like verse dropped, I was like, oh my god.

[00:11:41] See, Stanley wasn't referenced in that at all. No.

[00:11:44] Just heard the house.

[00:11:48] So she's just really adverse to moving.

[00:11:51] Yeah, pretty much.

[00:11:52] Where she, yeah, oh my god. Oh my god. I just freaking watched a movie last night

[00:11:58] where the whole time, yeah, kind of just, we're like the whole time you think that the killer

[00:12:05] is killing its victims in the basement of his house throughout the whole movie

[00:12:09] and like we finally find the house in the movie at the end of the movie.

[00:12:13] But then it's revealed that like when the police show up to like finally like nab them,

[00:12:18] they get down to the basement where the victim and the killer have like had their

[00:12:23] final confrontation and they don't find the basement that they from the movie,

[00:12:28] like from like from previous.

[00:12:31] And then it's revealed that it was like the killer had two houses,

[00:12:35] one across the road from the other.

[00:12:39] So they were using one house, like one house's basement to like torture and kill the kids

[00:12:45] and the other basement was used for burying the bodies.

[00:12:49] I don't know.

[00:12:50] Yeah, and it was, it's not exactly like, it just kind of brings to mind that because I was just

[00:12:55] like watching that movie last night with my sister. So yeah, that movie, but I don't want to,

[00:13:02] should I spoil that?

[00:13:03] We're like, is that, would it be spoiling if I said that with the title of the movie was?

[00:13:07] Actually, yes.

[00:13:08] Yeah, I'm not gonna say it.

[00:13:09] Yeah.

[00:13:10] Yeah.

[00:13:11] But that movie.

[00:13:12] Yeah, that movie.

[00:13:15] But also for those unaware, Mikey grabs all the sentences through the story that start with

[00:13:20] words that they probably shouldn't like it sends her butts because there's always better words to

[00:13:23] use.

[00:13:25] Yeah, sometimes we get some tips sometimes.

[00:13:29] I think this is actually a first for connective tissue time during a conjunction junction.

[00:13:34] Probably yeah.

[00:13:35] But I guess next on is a gamer. Do you have a grammar in yellow?

[00:13:39] I do not.

[00:13:41] I do not.

[00:13:42] A hot called this.

[00:13:45] Oh, hi, Mikey.

[00:13:49] All right.

[00:13:50] Then I suppose we move on to actual thoughts.

[00:13:52] So this is where like the actual stuff about the story as I was reading it, I was like, okay,

[00:13:57] like there's things I like about it.

[00:13:58] There's things I didn't like about it and I'm going to go into it right now.

[00:14:04] Let's start with this quote here.

[00:14:06] What's truly terrifying aren't the things that go bump in the night,

[00:14:10] but the macabre twists of fate in life.

[00:14:13] Especially when they get more horrifying, the deeper you pry into them.

[00:14:18] So last weekend, last weekend, last week, like last episode, I was talking about this kind of thing here.

[00:14:26] Now that the character has been made aware of something abnormal or hard to explain

[00:14:32] mundanely in their lives, they can't close their eyes to those kind of things.

[00:14:38] And now they're seeing the truth behind certain events in their life.

[00:14:43] Or like things around them that they originally may have just shrugged off or may have thought was

[00:14:50] mundane, but now it's like they're realizing through extra details they're now perceiving.

[00:14:55] It's like wait, that can't be explained normally anymore.

[00:14:59] Shit.

[00:15:00] Like it's sort of like again, the ignorance is bliss.

[00:15:03] Like once you see it, you'll shit bricks.

[00:15:07] Or like you can't unsee, you can't close Pandora's box now that you've stepped into the realm of

[00:15:15] the unnatural.

[00:15:17] So that's I think what I was mentioning earlier, like last week with how the character is now

[00:15:23] just kind of getting this, like this series, it seems to be like a series of stories where

[00:15:28] it started with the ghost in Vietnam and now he's starting to start realizing things were not

[00:15:36] just like explainable through his life.

[00:15:39] That is basically the rundown of this entire series so far, it seems.

[00:15:44] Yeah.

[00:15:46] And honestly, that makes the first story title like that much more impactful for like the

[00:15:52] entire series because like a curious mind is a terrible curse.

[00:15:56] Because he was curious and like wants to know a little bit more about like that weird event that

[00:16:00] he encountered, he's now cursed with the fact that like he's now perceiving things a lot differently

[00:16:07] than he was.

[00:16:08] He no longer has the safety blanket over his eyes.

[00:16:10] Yeah.

[00:16:11] And he's outwardly like trying to find it now by asking friends about it and shit?

[00:16:16] Exactly.

[00:16:16] Because he's dooming himself.

[00:16:18] Yeah.

[00:16:20] But I'll move on to the next thing I have here.

[00:16:23] Eventually the family got her to a psychiatrist who diagnosed her with a type of paranoid schizophrenia

[00:16:30] known as Capricinum.

[00:16:32] It's a rare condition where the victim believes that someone close has been replaced by an identical

[00:16:37] imposter.

[00:16:38] Great!

[00:16:39] And now that I've read through the bit, through a bit of the Wikipedia article,

[00:16:43] linked, the link is the name of the disorder in the story.

[00:16:48] I really wish I hadn't.

[00:16:49] That shit is tragically fucking creepy.

[00:16:52] Yeah, no doubt.

[00:16:53] Like I think I just tapped into like a new fear of mine.

[00:16:57] Of like it's like not even like that.

[00:16:59] Like I'm not even like creeped out by like somebody being like I do get creeped out

[00:17:04] by like doppelgangers and like people who are like body swapped or like body snatched.

[00:17:10] But the fact that there's a fucking like mental disorder that causes you to think that?

[00:17:17] Thanks!

[00:17:18] I fucking hate it.

[00:17:19] Yeah.

[00:17:20] Like why is reality creepier than fiction?

[00:17:25] Because reality can actually happen.

[00:17:27] Yeah, like title fucking drop but also like title is so appropriate for this.

[00:17:33] Or like reality is creepier than fiction.

[00:17:38] Yeah, alternates they're a thing.

[00:17:40] They're actually a thing to some people.

[00:17:42] No, no, alternates they're a thing in people's heads.

[00:17:47] And like that's like so sad and like I feel for that kind of person because like

[00:17:53] that would be I would hate that.

[00:17:56] Having that kind of like mental illness like would fuck would just like I'm over

[00:18:00] I'm understating it but would fucking suck.

[00:18:03] Yes.

[00:18:06] Like it's up there with like body dysmorphia where like you realize

[00:18:10] like you feel like your body is not your own.

[00:18:13] Like oh yeah that's that's a type of body horror I am not comfortable with at all.

[00:18:20] So thanks I hate it.

[00:18:24] The story has opened my eyes to a to a new thing to worry about in real life.

[00:18:29] Only you didn't click on that Wikipedia link.

[00:18:31] She says I read like I saw the link and I'm like I will not click on that.

[00:18:35] Well, I think these titles I understand the message.

[00:18:39] Well and it's like the article also goes into explain like how you can get this syndrome

[00:18:44] and it's like oh no this is actually pretty easy to get in like certain circumstances.

[00:18:49] Geez.

[00:18:50] Not just like yeah like basically like a concussion could do my closet.

[00:18:56] Like I'm obviously also like oversimplifying it but like yeah there's

[00:19:00] It's just scary.

[00:19:01] Reality is scary.

[00:19:03] Is bad time.

[00:19:04] Yeah and the story definitely woke that up to me or woke me up to that.

[00:19:08] So but I'll move on to something less scary in reality and a little bit more cool and creepy.

[00:19:19] So Stanley was the thing that went bumping the night.

[00:19:23] It was his pleas and desperate attempts to escape that echoed through the halls of the mansion at

[00:19:27] night but solving the miss solving that mystery only created a deeper one.

[00:19:32] Who then was the person caring for Mary spending time with her family and whom

[00:19:38] that's the typo whom actually is home in the story.

[00:19:43] It should actually be a W H O M E not W H O M but I digress.

[00:19:51] And whom ultimately was murdered and thrown off a cliff if Stanley was already dead.

[00:19:59] Was it a twin brother?

[00:20:00] A doppelganger.

[00:20:02] So a doppelganger has a link to Wikipedia as well which is just

[00:20:06] and I didn't have to click that one because I knew what doppelgangers are.

[00:20:08] They're basically just like they're alternates they're duplicates or they're somebody

[00:20:12] they're like an entity that is identical to a person.

[00:20:16] Like also a Spider-Man villain.

[00:20:18] Yeah well I mean and they got that from the the the original term.

[00:20:23] Maybe the original term got a spider-man.

[00:20:25] No how do you know?

[00:20:28] Because doppelgangers much older than spider-man.

[00:20:30] That's a term.

[00:20:31] Prove it.

[00:20:32] I can hang on.

[00:20:34] I hear a thing.

[00:20:35] History of doppelganger.

[00:20:37] Please don't let's continue.

[00:20:38] Oh fuck you.

[00:20:44] Let me know I tried to let this be a bit and go on.

[00:20:48] Yeah you know it's I'm not finding anything immediately so I'm giving up.

[00:20:52] I win.

[00:20:52] Although I do love that the first example of a doppelganger is a picture of

[00:20:57] a of of um uh what's his name um oh willy of wonderland wicker man what what's that

[00:21:07] guy's name like how did it burn how did it burn without the me's that guy why can't I think of

[00:21:14] his name right this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is

[00:21:19] hang on I got I got willy's wonderland right on the shelf hang on googling it

[00:21:23] was caged what the hell damn it brain work oh why yeah sorry when I was reading this

[00:21:31] it took me like literally 10 minutes of sitting here being like what's that thing called that's people

[00:21:38] that are taken and replaced it with someone else i'm just sitting there staring into the

[00:21:42] blank void of space is like that information's not there anymore and eventually I'm like

[00:21:46] alternates there I can move on with my alternates and doppelgangers yeah and yeah so so

[00:21:50] doppelganger is german for double goer uh in german folklore double goer a double goer okay yeah uh in

[00:21:59] in german folklore a wraith or apparition of a living person as distinguished from ghost the

[00:22:05] concept of exist of the existence of spirit doubles um so yeah basically they're supernatural

[00:22:11] beings or creatures that um look identical to a living person um and uh with six arms yeah or

[00:22:19] yeah or pure arm of six arms um but also I love that the the example image that google pops in when

[00:22:26] I type in doppelganger is a picture of niggas cage and his name for second yeah and right next to it

[00:22:36] is a historical photo of like a person that looks very similar to niggas cage but from like clearly

[00:22:43] from like the 18th century wow or like the early nine of the late like mid 19th century like uh

[00:22:50] basically it's a sepia tone black and white photo of like a gentleman that looks like niggas cage but with

[00:22:56] a mustache nice yeah um yeah so uh yeah so doppelgangers like that's that's the whole thing

[00:23:06] and like man this is a really cool concept and like creepy setup and revelation that we get the

[00:23:11] end of this story with the doppelganger stuff and like the like the whole thing that happens with

[00:23:17] like where the the marie like is seen like killing the doppelganger seemingly and like throwing them

[00:23:23] off the cliff and then like just snapping I guess for that event and just killing herself and then

[00:23:29] they find the real Stanley um in a secret secreted basement in the in the house that

[00:23:36] presumably the doppelganger was keeping down there um it also brought to mind actually a film

[00:23:43] that I watched recently not not like with my sister or anything like but like like not not

[00:23:47] the one I was talking about earlier but uh it's a movie called significant other and it's it's

[00:23:51] sort of got a bit of a buddy horror quality to it um but more along like a relationship side of

[00:23:57] things and there's a number of plot beats similar to the uh to the ones that are in this

[00:24:02] story um I honestly really recommend the film but yeah so I really loved the I really like the

[00:24:08] concept and the the sort of revelation we get here of like Stanley being found um like his

[00:24:14] core his his dehydrated and and desiccated corpse found in the basement in like a secreted

[00:24:20] basement uh in the in the mansion and uh kind of like like just sort of poking holes at the

[00:24:27] fire is like well who was the guy that was taking care of marie if this is supposed

[00:24:31] like DNA tests are showing that this is 99% sure this is uh this is stanley here

[00:24:37] yeah the ending but who was stanley oh my who was it's the stanley parable my god

[00:24:46] or this I guess I know who was phoned but stan yeah yeah um yeah I'll move out to the my my final

[00:24:55] actual thought my last actual thought not to be confused with final thoughts

[00:25:00] um what haunts me most though is the thought that maybe she was perfectly sane throughout it all

[00:25:08] and it was the world itself that was truly crazy reality is indeed creepier than fiction credits

[00:25:14] yeah actually credit literally credits yeah okay so I don't like this I mean this as in what

[00:25:26] hear me out here here's my here's here's here's what I mean I do like in fact I love the creepy story

[00:25:33] I just read because I gotta say so far you have only very singing the praises of this

[00:25:40] I do I did love the story I was reading but I don't like it as a story in this roster of

[00:25:48] stories by won't think straight because this doesn't happen to him hell it doesn't even happen to

[00:25:55] one of his family members it's a friend of a friend of his it's it's a it's a story so what

[00:26:02] to me like I as as much as I like this series of stories being a collection of standalone tales

[00:26:08] told by won't think straight it started out with them being centered around nare's own

[00:26:15] personal experiences not like not like the show freaky stories you know the one with the

[00:26:21] blue cockroach and the maggot that tell Twilight story like one shots uh every episode um so I I think

[00:26:33] there could have been I think the story could have been like made more to like have a connection

[00:26:38] to nare like why didn't this why couldn't this have been Aunt Mary like oh like why does it have to be

[00:26:45] why couldn't this have been nare's Aunt Mary not like a friend of nare's because it doesn't matter

[00:26:51] what matters is this happened and nare is spining out about more and more of these weird fucked up

[00:26:58] creatures that are in his universe and could further target him but we don't get any connection like

[00:27:05] that in the story like I thought maybe like at the end of the story we'd get like a thing where

[00:27:09] he realizes like he's he's like somebody in his life is starting to act like this or like he's

[00:27:15] starting to like doubt like maybe he's starting to like show like have some paranoia about people in

[00:27:20] his own life but it it it doesn't really go that way I I really need for me like the the crux for me

[00:27:28] for enjoying this story like I enjoyed the story don't get me wrong I did like it I like I've been

[00:27:32] singing its praises like you said like this entire episode but my my crux here is that like this

[00:27:38] story didn't really center around nare which is kind of like was the point at the start from

[00:27:44] the from last two sessions or last two stories that we've read in this the series of stories

[00:27:51] and like yes like nare is now like realizing that like this like I guess friends and had this weird

[00:27:58] thing happen to them like that's the connection but I wanted it to be a little bit closer connected

[00:28:03] to narets himself like I wanted him to be more in the center of like the weirdness that's

[00:28:08] happening I'm sure in previous entries we were saying like what is this whole series going to be

[00:28:14] directly about nare and everything that's happening to him that'd be weird yeah but I was fine with that

[00:28:21] okay yeah I strong disagree out with you on this but okay that's fine yeah like that's

[00:28:29] that's fine like I'm not like I'm not really trying to like push you guys like against her

[00:28:33] like this I'm just voicing my my opinion on this on the situation like it's not

[00:28:39] it didn't ruin the story 100% I just like it made me like questions like well I was just

[00:28:45] kind of disappointed a little bit by the end because it wasn't like there's no for me there

[00:28:50] was no real strong connection between nare in the story it's just that it's a story that he

[00:28:55] heard second hand from a friend um and I thought this is like eye to the supernatural being opened

[00:29:03] this is theoretically another creature that he's learning about in his universe

[00:29:10] something that he has to concern himself with like he's basically doing this series of entries

[00:29:15] like a monster manual of actual supernatural creatures that exist in the world whether

[00:29:22] they happen to him or not it doesn't matter he's just finding out more and more about all the weird

[00:29:27] shit that's going on because he keeps diving into it I guess you're right um I just I

[00:29:35] it left me wanting more like like if there are I kind of hope there are like there's a story later

[00:29:42] on where this happens to him like where he gets he starts like questioning like a doppelganger

[00:29:48] kind of situation would be kind of crazy if like you go through all these stories him learning about

[00:29:53] all these things and then the last story all of them target him it's just like end game like a

[00:30:00] venture he knows too much get rid of this guy it's it's actually the sntf go after

[00:30:08] after that there yeah they found out that dark sntf finding out all these things

[00:30:15] but because of that he's making himself a target to all these creatures yeah so like they use him

[00:30:20] as bait to lure all of them out where he dies tragically in the process but they also capture

[00:30:25] all these creatures as well so it's for the greater good well no obviously it's like it's

[00:30:29] sntfe the east ends for evil I mean they're questionably evil anyway just like the stp foundation

[00:30:39] yeah they're they're they may be morally corrupt or at least like they may not have the same morals

[00:30:43] as humanity it's it's the dark sntf regardless without them the world will be fucked yeah

[00:30:57] or maybe maybe it's just the normal sntf again like this person knows too much like send him to the

[00:31:01] nope to the to a nope site where like uh like to um he's he's exposing the world to the weird

[00:31:08] shit we gotta get we gotta we gotta um stamp down on this yep or train it would be a wizard

[00:31:16] yep exactly yeah the two options yeah those unaware the sntf is a supernatural task force which is

[00:31:22] some silly like head cannon and the thing that we've done where like we've developed yeah in

[00:31:29] regards to like all of the creepypasta monsters that have ever been made they're all like in

[00:31:35] the same universe in the sntf like they get the good ones to help them basically keep um keep the

[00:31:43] other ones hidden from the world and all that yeah it's it's it's like the scp but better because

[00:31:48] it's ours it's ours and because they're nice yeah because they're actually like it's all

[00:31:54] misunderstandings or like it's all like they're actually just trying to like cover things up

[00:31:58] so that like because like humans are the real monsters like not all monsters are bad so then

[00:32:03] like they're like using them to they're utilizing their talents like they're bad guys but they're not

[00:32:09] bad guys yeah yeah i'm sure all the supernatural creatures aren't enslaved i'm sure like they have

[00:32:18] nice like apartments that they live in somewhere or wherever they want to live they're not

[00:32:23] imprisoned like in the sntf i don't need to explain it this much let's continue yeah

[00:32:28] it's been a while we should because yeah so people might listen to multiple episodes

[00:32:32] what the fuck is the sntf and they keep talking yeah that's true yeah i was like is that

[00:32:36] is that some new thing i haven't heard about and they start looking up and they can't find anything

[00:32:40] anything at all nothing yeah did i hear them right like oh crazy god knows i've actually

[00:32:47] done that where like i've like heard something like heard of something and i've looked it up

[00:32:51] and only to find that it's like a tangential thing that was mentioned on like another piece of

[00:32:56] media i was like god damn it looks like it sounds like a really cool thing but yeah it is good to

[00:33:02] explain our headcanon uh organizations sometimes um but uh yeah like again for me like i really

[00:33:13] enjoyed the series like again i don't want to i don't want to like besmirch the story that we got

[00:33:16] because it is a really cool creepy story and like thanks i hate the fact that i now know about

[00:33:21] capris syndrome yeah um uh but yeah it's uh for me specifically personally i just kind of

[00:33:31] wish the story had been a little bit more connected to nair's like whole shtick but like that's just

[00:33:36] my opinion on it so um but uh that is the end of my actual thoughts so mickey these stands for

[00:33:43] evil all right let's see here uh so my first actual thought is about this quote such as the story of

[00:33:55] old and mary mary wasn't my aunt but a friend of mine's so yes thank you for reading my uh

[00:34:06] my grammar acquisition quote yeah well uh i didn't really like this because it's along the lines of

[00:34:19] the last story where uh oh yeah my parents told me about this that happened when it whatever

[00:34:27] yeah uh which i as we mentioned in that story i didn't like that but i gave this one a little

[00:34:37] bit more of a pass i don't like it but i like it a bit more than that other way

[00:34:44] if that makes sense i i do understand where you're coming from because the you don't like

[00:34:48] the previous one because it it falls in line for uh something that you don't like which is

[00:34:52] false memory situations or like or memories that uh or i guess um i guess it's almost it's not so much

[00:34:59] false memories as like it's unreliable information because it's not uh first party information yeah

[00:35:04] yeah for not yeah or like subjective memory because like it's something that's being told you by

[00:35:09] like by a parent who may not know not know may not even recall the same thing so like it muddies

[00:35:14] the water a bit for your for the legitimacy for you yeah because poor legitimacy isn't cute

[00:35:21] mm-hmm all right uh so and my next actual thought here i have this quote her family was faced with

[00:35:30] the difficult choice of either committing mary to a mental institution to get the care she needed

[00:35:37] or have her sedated and looked after at home they chose to keep her sedated

[00:35:44] what a horrible family yeah yeah yeah

[00:35:52] like it's on the surface it sounds like it sounds sympathetic but at the same but when you look when

[00:36:00] you think about that a little bit more than like just surface level it's like that's probably not

[00:36:05] the best solution like what is this the 1940s uh or maybe because this character like this happened to

[00:36:14] an aunt of a friend of his so like and so we're presuming this is i'm assuming and i know what

[00:36:19] that means it makes an ass of you and me but or it's makes an ass of you and me but um i'm assuming

[00:36:29] that this is uh uh in modern day that we're getting these stories from like like this this

[00:36:36] is relative modern like like current era or current timeline um that aunt mary like happened so like

[00:36:43] yeah no she probably would have i mean they might have had like a home nurse or something

[00:36:47] of that at the very minimum but like yeah just sedating her at home and not like

[00:36:53] like not medicating like otherwise like there's there's doing that there's no they weren't doing

[00:37:02] anything to try to correct the problem they were um brushing the problem under a carpet basically

[00:37:09] yeah or if that was happening aside from just being sedating like maybe they were medicating her

[00:37:13] as well as sedating her that that needs to be added in the story because that's to it's

[00:37:18] as it is it's way too vague yeah it sounds like it's just sedation just she stays like that for the

[00:37:23] rest of her life she's my basically a vegetable is what they're doing yeah exactly so like at least

[00:37:28] at the institution i know i know medical like mental institutions get like a bad rap especially

[00:37:32] yeah but like at the end of the day they are set up to help people afflicted with

[00:37:40] situations like this so like it isn't all like doom and gloom and stuff like that like

[00:37:46] not all the time i assume like i assume like there are facilities out there that are like

[00:37:50] genuinely good and like that that was that that was the intended goal anyway yeah it's a hospital for

[00:37:58] the head exactly yeah but um yeah so i and it's a if this assuming this this whole thing take

[00:38:08] place in like a modern timeline like modern mental hospitals are much better than they were

[00:38:16] which kind of does give off a little bit of a vibes of like an earlier type of or an earlier

[00:38:24] personification of those kind of things but yeah it isn't it should be more modern stuff so

[00:38:32] yeah oh that's a mickey rat all right and then my last actual thought

[00:38:42] here is reality is indeed creepier than fiction so the story said sound to be mundane

[00:38:56] with creepiness factor but i feel it doesn't go mundane enough like at the end it questions

[00:39:09] was it the twin brother a doppelganger if it's reality then a doppelganger

[00:39:19] isn't even a question it was the twin brother here's the thing though that's not what he's saying

[00:39:25] he's not saying like oh it was all like reality mundane realities is creepier than fiction that's

[00:39:30] that's actually not what he's saying there he's saying the reality like he like he suddenly

[00:39:35] comes to the real like because of like what happened at the end there with like um mary

[00:39:40] killing a person and dropping it off the cliff presumably stanley but then finally but then

[00:39:44] the authorities found stanley in the basement like desiccated as if he'd been dead for

[00:39:48] like from dehydration and starvation for like a few years for some time that that puts into question

[00:39:55] like who was the person that was taking care of mary and getting the family like was was there

[00:40:00] actually a doppelganger like was mary actually correct and if that's so that's the reality

[00:40:06] like like that's that's that's the the current situation in reality is that like

[00:40:11] reality is creepier than fiction because you can't write that shit although you can

[00:40:16] yeah it's saying that there is creepy shit in reality that is creepier than what people write

[00:40:23] yeah yeah but the thing is like there would be documentation of a twin brother

[00:40:33] well yeah but like so yeah yeah no i i think there's a twin brother

[00:40:39] hmm they're not there isn't saying that there's a twin brother they're basically saying if she's

[00:40:44] right there is a doppelganger out there and in our reality and with that being the case

[00:40:51] reality is creepier than fiction because reality has this creepy shit in it yeah

[00:40:58] i do kind of see where mike he's coming from like the story could have added like that he

[00:41:02] he looked he asked his friend or they they looked at the family looked into it

[00:41:06] and like stanley like maybe stanley had no didn't even not not just had like no family

[00:41:12] or like or no real like family connections um like he didn't have a twin brother kind of thing or

[00:41:18] what have you like yeah they could have been like a little bit added to that and they said that he was

[00:41:22] an only child yeah exactly like or you go into like the yeah that kind of stuff proof would be nice

[00:41:30] yeah like it's a cool zinger at the end but i i get what you're saying mikey

[00:41:36] yeah like you give us a mundane option but don't go like well you're saying it's reality well twin

[00:41:48] brother makes perfect sense for reality so that's my take on it uh and that's the end of my actual

[00:42:00] test all right gamer i had two notes

[00:42:07] i no longer have yeah basically the only other thing i could say is um in regards to

[00:42:14] them saying that oh we could pull over mental institution or we can sedate her let's just

[00:42:19] sedate a that's a dick move yes but edit later on after me reading the entire story so she ended

[00:42:27] killing someone and herself weird almost like she needed help and was very clear about needing

[00:42:33] help by right being praised yeah almost like the family could have stopped all this by happening

[00:42:40] stopped almost yeah that's literally all i have left because i've i've been on what i had to say

[00:42:49] otherwise yeah all right fair enough uh then i suppose we'll move on to final thoughts so yeah i

[00:42:58] will partially recommend this story i did really like the story as it crooked me out like again the

[00:43:07] the the mental illness that was used like that was uh that was suggested in the story is fucking creepy

[00:43:12] and like i hate it like i feel i feel sorry for for anybody who suffers from it um but

[00:43:22] and like the the revelation at the end like like but who was stanley like was amazing um

[00:43:29] but as part of the series of stories from from won't think straight to me personally i i don't

[00:43:35] think i can recommend it because i wanted to be closer to like closer in connection to nair

[00:43:43] than a friend of a friend of his or like an aunt of a friend of his um so that's why i'm

[00:43:50] giving it uh merely a partial recommendation because it is a good story it's just for me it

[00:43:57] doesn't fall in line with the rest of the series at least as far as we've read so mickey these

[00:44:03] days okay well uh as stated previously i sort of disliked the uh from a friend or the the

[00:44:16] story is from the friend that doesn't have all the information so it doesn't help uh i i like

[00:44:25] that the story goes mundane but then in my mind it doesn't go mundane enough

[00:44:33] yeah we're not going hard enough

[00:44:35] uh so it does have some creepiness to it i'll give it that so with that i give it a partial

[00:44:47] okay and gamer so i liked it

[00:44:56] okay uh no like uh yeah it's good clean read honestly i didn't notice any grammar issues when

[00:45:02] i read through it at all uh the premise is good and concerning uh ties well with the title

[00:45:09] i personally didn't mind it branching out to other people because i'm pretty sure i said before that

[00:45:15] if all this shit just keeps happening to nair then this is just nair's no good very bad month or

[00:45:21] year like everything is bad happening him but no one else so it's good to see that it's opening

[00:45:27] up at least to me it's good to see that it's opening up the the world of possibilities to

[00:45:33] like the entire world actually because in this world that nair is in this shit's happened to

[00:45:38] everyone it's not just happening to him it's just no one knows about it but he's slowly finding

[00:45:42] out about it because curiosity is a curse that's bad we're right together what a curious mind is

[00:45:49] a terrible curse that's what i said um new title for the for the first story curiosity is uh

[00:45:59] his mind is bad curiosity is curiosity is a curse that's bad yeah not the dot that's bad

[00:46:06] indeed okay mr mackey yeah personally i like that's opening up so it's happening to everyone

[00:46:12] he's just finding out more about it because he's looking into it and i i hope that this i hope that

[00:46:20] his insanity actually starts being shown more because he's finding out more and more stuff

[00:46:25] but out of all these stories so far the only one that he's actually concerned for his own

[00:46:31] well-being is the end of the first story yeah because a that directly happened to him and but

[00:46:38] b these stories are going further on in the timeline and the ticking clock of the first one

[00:46:45] should be happening if that is indeed um like he was he did see the ghost's face so he will be dying

[00:46:53] of course death at some point in this i'm assuming it's the last episode the last entry maybe we'll

[00:46:59] see yeah i i don't i think that might just been like no like he's now just like living in

[00:47:03] fear but like nothing's gonna happen to him yes but i'm fine with nothing happening to him

[00:47:09] i want to this makes me sound like a horrible person i want to see him struggling and living

[00:47:14] with fear and scurvy because no that just makes you like yeah congrats you're you're learning to

[00:47:20] like like horror because that's what this character's supposed to be experiencing right now because

[00:47:26] if these stories continue and you don't see him going down a spiral of madness because of the first

[00:47:35] story and then this story and then the next story all these weird things happening and he's like oh god

[00:47:40] the whole world is covered in all this weird shit that can kill me if that doesn't happen then it

[00:47:45] invalidates all the other stories specifically the first one all that to be said i like this one

[00:47:51] fair but i want to see those things happen if they don't happen then i'll be sad

[00:47:57] sad times sad gamer sad panda all right well that yeah so two partial recommendations and

[00:48:07] the full recommendation um again it seems like we all liked the the premise in this and like

[00:48:13] the setup of the story it's just or like the uh the not the set up but like the uh the meat and

[00:48:18] potatoes of the story it just some of us had a little bit more um to say about more to gripe about

[00:48:26] from other parts of it we all like the meat and potatoes just some of us didn't like the

[00:48:30] presentation of it on the plate exactly yeah that's yeah i wanted more bait and potatoes

[00:48:36] yeah you didn't have enough man if i was still doing title cards

[00:48:43] yeah just be like us like like uh like mickey just asking for more from uh well you say hey you're

[00:48:51] gonna eat that please so i can have some more yeah uh but yeah that'll do it for this week's episode

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