ADR - Episode 521: Gurgles and Bugman
Al Dente RigamortisMay 16, 2024
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ADR - Episode 521: Gurgles and Bugman

(Gurgles and Bugman): https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/othwh/gurgles_bugman/ 

Intro/Outro music: Ghost Story by Kevin MacLeod

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[00:00:00] Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis. I'm Review Cultist.

[00:00:22] I'm Mikey. He stands for evil. And I'm the Gamer in Yellow.

[00:00:26] And we're here to discuss those internet stories, most creepy and most pasta, and be critically

[00:00:30] silly doing it. And tonight we have Gurgles and Bugman.

[00:00:36] So yeah, we're covering another story by Wolt Think Straight from Reddit No Sleep, their

[00:00:43] series of strange encounters that they've experienced through life that they can't explain. So they're

[00:00:52] posting them on Reddit No Sleep. We did last week we covered their strange

[00:00:59] encounter in Vietnam with the ghost that wouldn't face them near a toilet stall.

[00:01:10] And now we're covering their second story, which is Gurgles and Bugman, which is the

[00:01:16] actual story that kind of brought our attention to this author and their stories because it

[00:01:22] was on that iceberg of definitive creepy pastas.

[00:01:28] That was because the title is awesome. Also, yeah, also because that was like when

[00:01:32] we were going through that iceberg, we saw Gurgles and Bugman is like, okay, we need

[00:01:35] to check this one out by name alone. But I love the name.

[00:01:41] But yeah, so yeah, you can check out Gurgles and Bugman on Reddit No Sleep. It's also on

[00:01:48] Creepost.wiki though I would probably push people more to the Reddit No Sleep version

[00:01:54] because that's the original site. And yeah, before we get too far ahead, let's give our initial

[00:02:01] recommendations. I'm going to recommend it.

[00:02:06] I am not going to recommend it. Interesting. I'll recommend this one.

[00:02:12] All right. Well, let's see why we gave those recommendations and one non recommendation.

[00:02:19] I wasn't tempted to say partial just for like balance.

[00:02:24] You were the chosen one. You're supposed to bring balance to the force.

[00:02:29] Not send it to ruins.

[00:02:32] You're supposed to bring balance to the recommendations.

[00:02:36] Not tip the scales.

[00:02:40] Nice.

[00:02:44] Well, again, let's find out why we gave those recommendations and see if they change over

[00:02:49] the course of our discourse. Starting with the rundown featuring

[00:02:52] Nair once again because we don't get a name. I guess technically it could be just won't

[00:02:57] think straight because they're the one writing these and posting them.

[00:03:03] Yeah, but his name is way too long. No one likes someone with a long name.

[00:03:06] I know. Yeah. Like somebody with a long name like that's basically like the equivalent of

[00:03:10] like a Reddit No Sleep story in itself and it's just deplorable.

[00:03:14] Right.

[00:03:15] Right? The gamer in yellow?

[00:03:18] Yeah, the has to be there of course.

[00:03:22] I like to abbreviate it down to Tiki.

[00:03:26] See, I was just used like guy because it's like G. I. Y.

[00:03:29] Yeah.

[00:03:30] The T is silent.

[00:03:32] Yeah.

[00:03:36] To guy.

[00:03:40] But yeah, on to the continuing with the rundown here.

[00:03:44] So Nair has another story to tell this time one brought forth from brought forth

[00:03:49] to his memories after speaking with his parents.

[00:03:52] You see when he was five, his family wasn't very well off.

[00:03:55] So rather than go to friends places after school, he mostly stayed at home and played

[00:04:01] with things in his room, including a little old TV on his shelf.

[00:04:06] We were talking like very small black and white wood vinyl trim with a channel dial

[00:04:13] on the side of it and an antenna attached as cool as this was.

[00:04:18] He didn't really care for the one show that would pop up on the channel when he

[00:04:23] tried to dial it into a clear channel because it showed a show called Gurgles and Bugman show.

[00:04:32] Gurgles Gurgles and Bugman were people dressed up like monsters.

[00:04:37] Gurgles was a tall slender man in a suit with clown shoes, wig and black makeup around

[00:04:45] his mouth and eyes.

[00:04:47] And on top of that, his eyes were pure black like a shark's eyes.

[00:04:53] Bugman was a small round fellow with or and had protruding eye stalks

[00:05:00] in place of his normal eyes and a vertical mouth.

[00:05:04] Obviously some kind of prop makeup, right?

[00:05:07] Anyway, these two would sneak into someone's home to watch them go about their evening

[00:05:16] camera in tow, hiding in the shadows with a laugh track and the usual thoroughfare of a

[00:05:24] prank show ambush.

[00:05:27] When everyone in the house was asleep, they would stalk over to the chosen victim in their bed

[00:05:35] and Bugman would open his vertical mouth and stab the neck of the victim with a needle

[00:05:40] like protrusion and paralyze them as he sucked their blood.

[00:05:46] Once the victim had been exsanguinated, the laughter would turn to applause and Gurgles

[00:05:52] would face the camera and say a very creepy farewell.

[00:05:57] Some time after seeing these things, the TV got taken away and Nair was thankful but

[00:06:04] talking to his parents in the present day, he discovered why that TV was taken away,

[00:06:10] like the truth as to why that TV was taken away, some information that he wasn't privy to.

[00:06:17] Or that he doesn't remember.

[00:06:19] He had thought they'd gotten rid of the TV because it had broken, but really his parents

[00:06:24] had taken the TV and destroyed it at a local scrapyard after something Nair had said in school.

[00:06:31] You see, a boy in his class had turned up dead in his bed during the school year

[00:06:37] and there was no evidence about who the killer was.

[00:06:41] Not at Nair's bed.

[00:06:44] I knew that was going to happen as soon as I finished reading it.

[00:06:46] I'll just press on.

[00:06:47] It really sounds like it, but it's not Nair's bed.

[00:06:53] The boy died in his own bed.

[00:06:59] There was no evidence as to who the killer was.

[00:07:01] Like there's no breaking and entering.

[00:07:02] The parents were considered suspects because there's no evidence otherwise

[00:07:07] of how this boy died.

[00:07:09] Except Nair told his teacher that he had seen the boy on Gurgle's and Bugman's show

[00:07:15] The Night Before the Death.

[00:07:17] Naturally, the teacher called his parents, Nair's parents I should say.

[00:07:24] That's Nair's experience with Gurgle's and Bugman's show.

[00:07:28] But he still wonders if those two are still out there

[00:07:32] doing their show and sneaking into unsuspecting victim's houses.

[00:07:37] Finn.

[00:07:39] So that is the rundown and I suppose we'll move on to

[00:07:45] everyone, tolerance or grammar inquisitions at this point.

[00:07:49] I've got a couple, not as many as I think.

[00:07:57] So I had to scroll down because it was like right near the end of the page on my list.

[00:08:04] Starting with this one here.

[00:08:06] Everyone's a friend when you're five.

[00:08:09] So I had no shortage of classmates.

[00:08:12] Okay, I get what he's saying here but it still kind of sounded odd to me.

[00:08:17] So like maybe it should have been like everyone's a friend when you're five.

[00:08:23] So I had no shortage of my, I had no shortage from my fellow classmates.

[00:08:29] Or I had no shortage of friends or I had no shortage of them.

[00:08:33] Yeah, yeah, maybe a shortage of them in my class.

[00:08:36] Yeah.

[00:08:38] You're just in period because he's saying that there's, he has a ton of friends.

[00:08:42] Yeah, but you still want to have that class part because like it's like because of the whole

[00:08:45] talk with the.

[00:08:46] It says everyone is your friend.

[00:08:49] Yeah.

[00:08:49] Even yeah.

[00:08:49] Not everyone in your class is your friend.

[00:08:52] Everyone is your friend when you're five.

[00:08:54] So I had no shortage of friends.

[00:08:56] I guess I could take any of these honestly other than the original.

[00:09:01] Just because like it just seemed like there need to be like,

[00:09:05] it is a thing like we said earlier with where we were being pedantic with the

[00:09:09] or we were being like grammar about my own like rundown.

[00:09:12] It's like the boy's, the boy died in his own in his bed and like Nair and then talk about

[00:09:17] Nair and it's like wait no that's not Nair's bed.

[00:09:21] Yeah.

[00:09:24] But yeah so any of those might be a better choice for this sentence specifically

[00:09:31] but I'll move on to the next thing I have.

[00:09:34] He had prosthetics covering his eyes to make him look like a fly.

[00:09:41] Oh okay you know what yeah I said earlier like in the rundown they were eye stocks.

[00:09:46] I suddenly just realized that they weren't probably eye stocks.

[00:09:50] My bad anyway moving on.

[00:09:54] He had prosthetics covering his eyes to make him look like a fly

[00:09:59] and a mouth that was rotated 90 degrees and opened from side to side.

[00:10:05] So is prosthetics the right word here or like should it be like goggles or something or like

[00:10:14] some kind of like I don't know like cosmetic prop rather than prosthetic.

[00:10:18] Yeah there are a lot more like goggles.

[00:10:20] Yeah they're not connected I'm assuming like goggles.

[00:10:24] Yeah well so that's why I said like maybe like cosmetic makeup or something like that

[00:10:27] or like or like some kind of like makeup props or something like that to

[00:10:30] which is prosthetics.

[00:10:32] Is that actually because like that's what I'm having obviously like maybe I'm just like

[00:10:36] because for me prosthetics is so hammered into like a prosthesis for like a severed limb or

[00:10:44] something like that. Yeah it's a permanent addition to the body.

[00:10:48] Yeah which is what these eyes covers might be.

[00:10:53] Okay or they're he's just assuming they're prosthetics but they're actually his eyes

[00:10:58] because he's a bug. Yeah that's obviously like I think that's actually what the

[00:11:02] I like how I said obviously it was like I think that is actually what

[00:11:07] is like we're going here for or what's happening here is like the kid thinks it must be makeup

[00:11:12] right? Right?

[00:11:15] Not that he has a vertical mouth or like yeah not that he's an actual monster

[00:11:22] but um yeah I was just having like some problem with that with prosthetic but I mean yeah I

[00:11:29] guess you're right it could prosthetic might still be the right word for it.

[00:11:34] Also like because of this bit like I now realize oh yeah no they weren't I because

[00:11:39] when I first read the story I visualized it as like eye stalks rather than

[00:11:44] like obviously like a multifaceted like eye lens or something like that like a flies.

[00:11:48] Yeah. All right yeah so all right I'll move on to the next one then.

[00:11:55] When the victim stops struggling after a few minutes and the laughter would turn to collapse

[00:12:01] and cheering so I feel like you should remove the the and after minutes so it's like

[00:12:07] when the victim stops struggling after a few minutes the laughter would turn to collapse and

[00:12:12] cheering. Yeah that does sound better. Because it's like usually like the and the laughter would

[00:12:20] turn to collapse and cheering and it just stops otherwise so. It sounds like it should be continuing

[00:12:26] with something else yeah or there should be something in between because of the and yeah.

[00:12:30] Yeah but uh yeah that's the end of my grammar acquisition so Mikey the East Ends for Evil.

[00:12:37] I have a conjunction junction. All right and next stop conjunction junction.

[00:12:44] But coming from a poor family I didn't get to see much of them outside of school

[00:12:52] so I spent my early years mostly keeping to myself playing with the random assortment of

[00:12:59] knickknacks from the shelf in my room but one channel was always crystal clear.

[00:13:09] It was The Gurgles and Bugman Show. It was only the crazy crop of curly hair sprouting off

[00:13:20] the sides of his head that gave him a more human look. It would always start with Gurgles and

[00:13:30] Bugman hidden away at someone's home but yesterday when I asked them about that TV again they exchanged

[00:13:42] nervous glances then filled in some missing gaps from my childhood. It was never plugged in the whole

[00:13:51] time it sat on my shelf so that's my story of Gurgles and Bugman but I'm not sure if that's

[00:14:01] really the end though and if so who will be their next star? Finn. Wow thank you for that super

[00:14:14] condensed rundown. It also didn't kind of make it seem like Nair was directly talking to Gurgles

[00:14:22] and Bugman about why TV was thrown away because no one else has mentioned. Yeah I thought he

[00:14:30] did not say in that sentence that he was talking to his parents or like did I mishear that or just no?

[00:14:35] He just says they exchanged nervous glances so there's no mention of parents at all.

[00:14:41] Oh god that's even creepier because it's like he's watching them like the show and they

[00:14:45] start talking to them like door the explorer but then the characters on the screen are

[00:14:50] like giving each other nervous glances like oh shit we can see we can hear this kid.

[00:14:54] And then they answer through the TV they're like you know the TV is not plugged in right kid?

[00:14:59] What? That is awesome.

[00:15:13] Now I suppose it's my turn now although for those unaware Mikey grabs all the sentences

[00:15:19] throughout a story that start with words that they probably should like it's under what yeah

[00:15:23] like it's hands or butts because there's always better words to you. It's hands or what?

[00:15:28] What?

[00:15:30] What?

[00:15:30] Turn it down.

[00:15:31] What? Yeah.

[00:15:33] Yeah all right yeah so Gamer do we have a grammar in yellow?

[00:15:40] Yeah a couple. When the unsuspecting star of the show came into view a laugh track would begin to play

[00:15:48] and you would see them go about their nightly routines oblivious to the conspiracy that

[00:15:51] Gurgles and Bugman had involved us in. So when I read this I'm like shouldn't it be involved

[00:15:58] them in? Like us the viewer is very loosely involved just because we're watching but I feel

[00:16:03] like the random person is the one that's directly involved.

[00:16:07] Yeah yeah.

[00:16:09] So I feel like that should be them.

[00:16:13] Yeah you're right.

[00:16:17] And then this one I just didn't like the way it sounded. The closer they got the louder

[00:16:21] and more laughter from the soundtrack. Like personally I feel like it would sound better

[00:16:28] if it's like the closer they got the louder and more intense the soundtrack got.

[00:16:34] Or the louder more intense the laughs from the soundtrack got.

[00:16:38] Yeah it just sounds weird I don't know exactly why but it does.

[00:16:42] Well a laugh track is like the term for like that like pre-recorded laughter

[00:16:46] in like shows and stuff but yeah um yeah I think yeah the they got it got louder and more intense.

[00:16:53] I think is yeah it's a good way for it.

[00:16:56] But that one's a nitpick probably and that's also all I got for Grammar.

[00:17:04] Okay well then we should move on to actual thoughts.

[00:17:09] Gonna start with this one here as I continue and a lot of this is some some of this is like

[00:17:14] again I'm like writing this down in the moment but and I do have like an update I think for

[00:17:20] this one but yeah so reading this part I got this in this quote.

[00:17:26] One particular item on the shelf was a small wooden a small old-fashioned TV set a wooden

[00:17:32] veneer box about two feet wide by a foot tall it had a curved glass screen that took up half of

[00:17:40] the front panel besides the screen was a large chrome dial used to switch channels

[00:17:46] at the top of the top sat an antenna formed by two terribly twisted wires.

[00:17:54] This is gonna turn into candle cove isn't it?

[00:17:58] Nair's just gonna be watching static for 30 minutes that or a guy in a bear costume is gonna be

[00:18:06] on the screen with a really grainy feed.

[00:18:09] I had the exact same thought just backwards I thought of Mr. Bear first.

[00:18:14] Yeah and then we cut over to my update as I because as I kept reading I saw I read them the

[00:18:20] following like a little bit later down. The camera angles would change as Gurgles and

[00:18:29] Bugman shifted their hiding place from the dark corners of a room to the cupboards to the ceiling

[00:18:35] or under the furniture all the while looking back at you and winking the closer they got

[00:18:41] the louder and more laughter from the soundtrack. Oh okay yeah it's yeah the louder and more intense

[00:18:47] the laugh track I think would yeah definitely would have been better. Yeah so yeah uh so

[00:18:53] so this this whole story starts off for me with a very similar vibe to like candle cove or 1999

[00:19:01] but I think the actual show presented on the TV screen here really makes this stand out

[00:19:08] from those from those ones because like it is a uniquely creepy thing with these characters

[00:19:16] and their actions like it's not just like a strange show with like puppets and stuff of that

[00:19:22] and like weird like screaming and stuff and it's not just a weird guy in his home like

[00:19:26] trying to make a TV show. It's two beings either man men with makeup or monsters super

[00:19:35] naturally sometimes seemingly sneaking stalking into somebody's home and doing a prank show but

[00:19:41] like they're also like probably vampires so it's like it still fits the bill of like that like the

[00:19:51] haunted the haunted or creepy like pirate channel on on a TV that like 1999 and candle cove and

[00:20:00] other other creep houses kind of fit fit into but then it does its own thing with that

[00:20:07] with the with the prank show and and the way they're the way these characters are made up to be

[00:20:14] and also like their their actions on the prank show so I was like at first I was worried that we were

[00:20:21] gonna just kind of get like a story that was kind of just like using what would come before

[00:20:28] but we get for me this the story kind of goes into like a way of like

[00:20:31] we get we're following the same kind of tropes and genre of those creepy pastas that from from past

[00:20:38] creepy pastas but they're definitely doing their own thing with it which is what I really liked about

[00:20:45] this so yeah my the update from my from my previous thing is like this is gonna be candle cove or

[00:20:52] a candle cove incident all over again or a 1999 thing it's like yes and no because like yes

[00:20:57] it's the same kind of genre but no they do their own thing it's not going to be exactly the same

[00:21:02] so it almost felt like it's like a a dark tv show from like the monsters inc universe

[00:21:09] or like the monsters are like going up farming scares but they also kill people

[00:21:13] see you're thinking monster monsters I'm thinking ah real monsters like the the Nickelodeon show

[00:21:20] where it's like your where it's like monsters who are like learning to be monsters and like

[00:21:24] they even like uh they they hop into a projector like like like uh like plug themselves into a

[00:21:30] projector and like project like their scares and and like a prank attacks on people through their eyes

[00:21:37] like to basically like project their video like the thing so I kind of got that from this as well

[00:21:43] um yeah but I let you have monster monster ink like but like darker

[00:21:49] yeah is also a pretty good thing for yeah um and actually speaking of like the monsters themselves

[00:21:54] let's just uh let's just dive into uh into this next quote in comment I have

[00:21:59] Gurgles was a clown but not a common one he wore a thin black suit that draped his tall

[00:22:06] skinny body with a matching tie and oversized novelty clown shoes to complete his distinctive

[00:22:15] outfit his pupils were completely black like polished ebony marbles with no trace of white

[00:22:23] around them black face paint around those eyes and across his cheeks and mouth made him look

[00:22:33] like a manic grinning skeleton it was only the crazy crop of curly hair sprouting

[00:22:41] off the sides of his head that gave him a more human look thanks I hate slender man's demonic

[00:22:49] business clown cousin in a good way he's honestly like worse in yeah better in that he's worse

[00:22:58] yeah like for me specifically who had a childhood fear of clowns um

[00:23:04] um yeah you add slender man and then gave it made him a clown you just basically added two phobia

[00:23:11] or two creepy things together and it meshed just so well to me slender man clowns together

[00:23:21] exactly yeah slender man's demonic business clown cousin what would that be what would his name

[00:23:27] be called like I guess I guess no I guess it's gurgles yeah actually yeah um but I'll move you know I kind

[00:23:38] of wish that like gurgles like it had described um when when like he's like uh pointing to the

[00:23:45] pointing to the camera like and like doing like the shushing sound and some of that

[00:23:49] like when he faces the the camera like uh every time he like tries to like

[00:23:53] emote some kind of like uh some kind of like vocal thing he do hear like this like underlying

[00:23:57] gurgling like like almost like somebody's like like drowning or something like that maybe yeah that

[00:24:02] would be cool because there's no like connection to him being called gurgles yeah like so we know

[00:24:07] why bug man's called bug man yeah bugman is definitely bug man because of of how he looks

[00:24:15] but um yeah definitely something that could be in added for that um and then the next thing I

[00:24:20] have here um the show itself was like candid camera with pranks playing or with pranks played on

[00:24:28] unsuspecting people it would always start with gurgles and bugman hidden hidden away at someone's

[00:24:36] home gurgles would face the camera staring at you his bony finger touching his lips oh I both

[00:24:45] do and don't love this premise like like I said earlier with like how like original this this is

[00:24:51] for like this kind of like creep pasta genre super creepy home invasion footage made to look like a

[00:24:59] pranking show that's definitely something that happens on the dark web yeah like that is

[00:25:05] definitely a dark sorry that is definitely a dark web thing um yeah no it's just like

[00:25:14] yeah that this is like a whole new level of like creepy because it's like using another kind of

[00:25:21] creepiness and like adding on this like veneer of like the silly like ha ha fun haunted creepy

[00:25:28] tv show and then adding the realistic horror of a of a break in entering and uh and like stalking

[00:25:35] situation god damn um yeah I both I love it and I hate it at the same time

[00:25:46] like love it for the story hate it for the real for the for the realistic horror of it

[00:25:50] it was like somebody like bringing your home and using that and using like a that that be any footage

[00:25:55] for something like weird dark web like prank show yeah it's not good no I mean it's good but it's not

[00:26:02] good uh I'm of two minds here but I'll uh I'll move on to the next thing I have but yesterday when

[00:26:13] I asked them about that tv again they exchanged nervous glances then filled in some missing

[00:26:19] gaps in my childhood halfway through the year Derek a classmate I didn't know very well

[00:26:25] had died in a horrific circumstance or in horrific circumna had died in horrific circumstances

[00:26:33] he was murdered in his bed with a stab wound to the neck no evidence of a break in was ever found

[00:26:41] so his distraught parents were taken into custody as the primary suspects they denied all the

[00:26:47] allegations against them okay wow firstly and I'm not saying this is ripped off just a similar idea

[00:26:56] and such but I'm getting deja vu from the couch and candle cove just with like its own terrifying

[00:27:05] twist and like and like take on it again seems to be the uh the theme for my notes on uh for the

[00:27:11] story is like it it it reminds me of previous things but is definitely doing its own thing like

[00:27:18] um the whole like uh the character talking to their parents and getting some like horrifying

[00:27:25] revelation from their childhood like with candle cove like he went to go the the character went

[00:27:29] to go see his his mom in the in the home and found out that he had actually been watching

[00:27:34] candle cove as a kid he'd be sitting in front of the tv watching static for 30 minutes and

[00:27:38] talking about a pirate show or in the couch that we did a couple weeks ago um the couch was

[00:27:45] removed for some reason and it was and then we the parents kind of explained later when he was

[00:27:49] older why the couch was removed it was because of a horrific because of like they they were freaked

[00:27:54] out by what he had said and like the circumstances around the couch from when they bought it

[00:28:00] so it's like a similar kind of situation of just like finding out that like oh this like

[00:28:04] seemingly strange but innocuous memory that you had as a child getting confirmation from your parents

[00:28:10] and getting new information that makes it so much worse and this story again like uses that theme that

[00:28:16] trope but does it's but again does its own thing with it um secondly uh so you got to know that

[00:28:25] teacher is internally going nope nope nope nope upon hearing this kid say uh say say the things

[00:28:34] like of like that he he saw Derek uh on the tv show um like the night before and such

[00:28:41] like on this creepy like gurgles and bugman show that they watched like the day before like oh no

[00:28:47] like it's like that's definitely like that kind of creepy like thing that a kid says is definitely

[00:28:53] something that the niece cultists have said and i've had the same internal noob

[00:28:57] uh but yeah um then i'll move on to the next thing which is kind of a natural progression of

[00:29:07] the teacher finding out about this stuff at the time mrs. Nolan my teacher told our class

[00:29:13] i'd apparently explain to her that Derek couldn't be dead because i saw him and his family

[00:29:20] on the gurgles and bugman show the day before when mrs. Nolan mentioned to my parents what i had said

[00:29:27] they had immediately taken the tv from my room driven it to the junkyard and had it burned

[00:29:33] to nothing but ash and molten smelt and molten metal that tv was in my room because

[00:29:41] it had always been broken it was never plugged in the whole time it sat on my shelf

[00:29:48] whatever i saw on that screen it wasn't from a channel or it wasn't from a station

[00:29:55] i was gonna say as i was reading this part why didn't they take it to the police

[00:30:05] then i kept reading and got to the part where like it wasn't like turned on and like

[00:30:12] like it had been broken so how could they have ever like how could uh nair had um had watched that so

[00:30:17] it's like it's just like oh man like yeah mom and dad maybe that was the smartest move you could have

[00:30:26] done just like just take this tv and just destroy it with like a with like extreme prejudice at the

[00:30:35] junkyard yeah that's the exact same thing i thought of at the time like a why the cop

[00:30:41] why not the cops then oh right that makes sense yeah it's like yeah that's that's probably the

[00:30:47] smartest yeah it's like well hang on why did you take the okay yeah no that makes sense

[00:30:52] like that's actually a very reasonable thing it's like you know what let's just get let's just

[00:30:56] get rid of this let's just get rid of this and then we'll be at the joint is like you know when

[00:30:59] we're at the junkyard let's just come can you can you just destroy it right here

[00:31:03] can we take that slurs thank you you got a light you got some gasoline and light good

[00:31:12] it's like the least dirblin thing that anyone has done yeah exactly uh but then i will move on to my

[00:31:21] my last actual thought here starting with this quote after all do gurgles and bugman still perform

[00:31:28] their night their nightly show for some unsuspecting viewer somewhere in this world

[00:31:34] and if so who will be their next star so i really like the idea that gurgles and bugman

[00:31:42] are still out there broadcasting but i think it would be really cool if like they're just

[00:31:46] broadcasting through like old tv media like crts and like those kind of tv's not like the newer

[00:31:52] stuff analog or yeah exactly have like some analog horror here or it's like like they're a ghost in

[00:31:57] the analog machine um like other stories could could be someone or even like like a customer or even like

[00:32:06] a clerk or employee at an old antique store or at someplace like like geep like a electronics

[00:32:12] recycling plant or something or like recycling facility uh coming across an ancient tv

[00:32:19] uh some ancient tv some old like antique tv set um that just pops on at the start of

[00:32:29] and starts showing the show like maybe like for the people that are like either it's like

[00:32:34] closing time um like in an antique store or like the night shift and geep and the the guys like

[00:32:41] processing either either walking by the tv displays uh or like processing some old tv's

[00:32:46] and it just turns on like it's not even plugged in it just pops on to life yeah the cord's already

[00:32:52] been cut off of it even exactly yeah it's like there's so like it just adds an extra level of

[00:32:58] like what the fuck moment and then there's just this show that pops on at night uh these characters

[00:33:06] just uh it do so um i would certainly be interested in more stories involving gurgles

[00:33:11] and bugman i i do kind of hope they make a comeback in the stories i don't want i don't

[00:33:16] want to be their next victim like fuck that sure about that i mean you do say that if you're gonna

[00:33:23] die you want to die in person that is one of the ways that is true i don't want to die like this

[00:33:28] though yeah like i'd rather like i'd rather be the one receiving the strange tv show

[00:33:34] like the straight like finding getting the strange show rather than being in the show

[00:33:39] but yeah relatively peaceful way to go like in your sleep kind of i guess

[00:33:46] you're basically you die by sleep paralysis yeah that's exactly where it is yeah oh god

[00:33:54] this show gurgles and bugman are actually just sleep paralysis demons

[00:33:58] that are that are ghosts in machines like that's that's what's going on here they're

[00:34:02] sleep paralysis demons that have decided to start uh recording their recording their

[00:34:07] shenanigans across america or across the world i both love that and hate it

[00:34:16] as the best way that creepypasta should be a nice balance of loving and hating it

[00:34:21] yeah because you love how interesting or unique it is but you hate the uh

[00:34:27] just like the revelation that it could be a thing yeah exactly but yeah that's uh

[00:34:32] that's the end of my my actual thoughts mickey the east ends for evil all right so

[00:34:39] i'll start at the end ish uh that tv was in my room because it had always been broken

[00:34:49] my issue with this is why did the parents hold on to a broken tv if it's broken

[00:34:58] uh the story actually does address this um his parents because they're poor so they

[00:35:04] they also had like hoarder kind of mentality they did just keep it yeah but my problem isn't it

[00:35:15] i have two xbox 360s with red rings i still have them i don't know why they're broken

[00:35:24] yeah i still have them in the box like you're right mickey why do they still have this

[00:35:31] but like yeah like you're right it makes sense because like why would they have us but at the same

[00:35:35] time it the story does kind of give us a plausible explanation like hoarders are a thing and they

[00:35:39] do irrational like keeping of things even if it's junk but then again why keep it in the kids room

[00:35:48] probably the only place they had room for it yeah we don't know how like stuff to their houses full

[00:35:54] of junk yeah and then the next line the dining room table is in my room laid up against the wall

[00:36:07] because like we need to like renovate and fix the actual dining room floor so we can't have

[00:36:13] too much stuff in there so i've seen weirder shit than a broken tv in uh kids room yeah okay

[00:36:23] so then the next sentence it was never plugged in the whole time it sat on my shelf

[00:36:31] i feel like a kid with an inquisitive mind would have plugged it in

[00:36:38] maybe he thought it was already plugged in because the it was behind the uh the tv

[00:36:43] like he never saw the wire or he saw the part of the wire but never saw the the end of it

[00:36:50] also i feel like he would plug it in he's also like five at this time so yeah but still well

[00:36:58] yeah well five-year-olds have inquisitive minds like i like figuring things out and then

[00:37:05] breaking things i i would also like to point out actually my my evidence to the contrary is

[00:37:11] the niece cultist at five um hell even i think nowadays um often forgets that she has to plug

[00:37:20] in her her tablet and such for it to keep going yeah but we also live in the wireless age this is

[00:37:29] when in an age where everything was plugged in i guess like that's my counterpoint

[00:37:42] doesn't really change anything aside from making it like it it doesn't ruin the surprise of it

[00:37:48] being broken because the parents can just say it's always been broken if being plugged in didn't

[00:37:54] do anything yeah yeah i i'm not like i don't like this one's like all right i might give you this one

[00:38:00] like but it's like yeah i can see i can see to the contrary but also yeah like they could like you

[00:38:06] also don't need the um the plug it being unplugged if it just simply broken that also works or at

[00:38:16] least if the parents have thought it was broken but yeah yeah um all right and now for

[00:38:30] another actual thought here um and that is that the whole first section of this story in my mind

[00:38:43] is an f you to the previous story yeah i i think i know you're going but let's continue

[00:38:50] yeah so in the first story he's talking about how he lived in a house that was

[00:38:57] the oldest or one of the oldest buildings on the street and that it everything was always

[00:39:04] uneventful until he turned 10 and then he got to listen to ghost stories from his dad and whatnot

[00:39:13] but in this story it's goes to when he was five something happened

[00:39:21] and yes however it does say that he learned about this information from his parents

[00:39:29] after returning from the the toilet ghost incident so it's possible he didn't remember

[00:39:34] this because he was five yeah that yeah as far as he recalls nothing interesting happened until

[00:39:40] he was 10 this this right here also i yeah like he like that also it opens the question is like

[00:39:51] i was with you because when i first started like reading this i was like hang on like i thought you

[00:39:55] had like a life that wasn't very like eventful like or you could explain a bunch like a lot of

[00:39:59] this stuff away and that that that uh like toilet ghost thing was an outlier now we're getting

[00:40:05] like there's like 11 stories here are you telling me that like are we just gonna get like a bunch of

[00:40:12] childhood things that like of stories that like you thought were innocuous but were actually kind of

[00:40:16] creepy and i mean like that actually kind of makes sense because like he started to like now start

[00:40:22] to question like most of the like he's he named off a bunch of stories in his past in the first

[00:40:28] story that he was able to like logistical or like or like kind of or you're able to mundanify or like

[00:40:35] explain away yeah but we're now we're now delving into a spot where he's like starting to he's

[00:40:39] starting to recall back events in his life that he thought were initially were innocuous but

[00:40:47] now that the wind the now the door's been opened by the origin by the previous story

[00:40:51] he's now starting to question his sense of reality and like were some of those old

[00:40:58] encounters or events in my life just like weird a weird like normal phenomena or was there

[00:41:05] something fucked up about it like similar to this story he thought this was just like

[00:41:09] innocuous until he talked to his parents about it and then they added in some extra details

[00:41:14] that like wait that was actually supernatural or that was actually unexplainable

[00:41:19] so yeah yeah it's just well and it also has the the trope that I think I've stated that I really

[00:41:32] hate which is the parents telling him information about when he was a kid and going oh well it

[00:41:38] was this okay oh yeah it's not him remembering it's his parents remember yeah but like yeah

[00:41:46] and it just annoys me to no end and the parents are potentially unreliable with their knowledge

[00:41:54] yeah yeah especially depending on the age of them

[00:42:02] fair and we still have no idea how old Nair is for these stories other than he went to Vietnam

[00:42:11] with his friends we don't know if that was post high school or during high school or

[00:42:20] yeah no it was like he was 12 yeah

[00:42:25] I'm assuming like a 20-something kid honestly for this story but like but yeah it could be

[00:42:30] we don't we just don't know and like maybe we'll find out in later stories like as we go on like

[00:42:34] we'll get more context to him but yeah as I said previously that this whole beginning section

[00:42:50] just pissed me off based on the previous story

[00:42:53] uh

[00:42:57] so yeah

[00:43:01] and like

[00:43:04] that what's here is neat to some degree because he does have quote supernatural stuff happening

[00:43:15] and if it wasn't for this opening section I might have enjoyed it more

[00:43:20] fair yeah see yeah like that's definitely like yeah I mean yeah that's definitely like a

[00:43:28] like a personal preference thing because like I love that yeah

[00:43:32] yeah it almost feels like it's not connected to the previous story though at all yeah yeah

[00:43:37] yeah I do also agree with that because like yeah like we were saying like the the previous story

[00:43:43] established that like he has he's gone through life not or being able to explain away a bunch of

[00:43:49] weird shit in his life and then that that uh that toilet ghost story happened and that's why he's posting

[00:43:55] online and yeah now we're getting a bunch of stories later or after that story of things that he can't

[00:44:03] explain anymore it's like it does kind of build it up as it goes on like it does kind of like

[00:44:10] for me anyway it does kind of like explain away like why that's okay but initially you're like

[00:44:17] wait hang on a second yeah well and it makes me question what's going to happen for the next stories

[00:44:25] are they all going to be his parents reminding him of different stories from his childhood

[00:44:32] because I mean this story starts with after my last experience which on the no sleep

[00:44:40] links to the first story yeah um except my parents remind me of another story from my

[00:44:47] childhood so it it it links it to the previous story and then gives a big f you to the previous story

[00:44:57] the next paragraph well yeah and again in my mind yeah and I I also understand I see where

[00:45:04] you're coming from but like also like for for me anyways it's like yes it does get throw a big

[00:45:08] f you to that but at the same time as it goes on it like for it was like okay well maybe like now his

[00:45:14] eyes are being opened to like the weirder s*** that he experienced it that he could that he thought was

[00:45:18] innocuous but couldn't explain yeah what we talked about before or at least the way I'm viewing it

[00:45:25] personally is at the time of writing the first story nothing interesting happened until

[00:45:32] he was 10 or something yeah but after the events of going to Vietnam and having the ghost he

[00:45:37] was back home talks to his parents and his parents remind him of s*** that weird s*** that happened

[00:45:42] before that and then that's how the floodgates start opening yeah and and who knows maybe this is the

[00:45:48] one the one story that'll have like oh I talked to my parents about something like maybe the next

[00:45:53] maybe the the following stories will be like more recent stuff or like stuff that he can

[00:45:57] he's able to corroborate outside of having his parents well we'll have to read and see I guess

[00:46:01] maybe his parents just kept a whole lot of weird

[00:46:04] yeah well then have a huge diary it kind of makes me wonder now like are we going to get a story that

[00:46:11] explains more of the truth about like the s*** the house that they lived in was was supposedly

[00:46:16] like haunted by all the neighbors and stuff with that it's like or like an old like so it's like

[00:46:20] are we going to in fact get a an instance of one of these stories where he gets a bomb dropped

[00:46:27] on him like an info bomb dropped on him that his house was actually haunted yeah and that those like

[00:46:34] those few times that he was able to like like is he remembered like the one with the bed uh like the

[00:46:39] weird like he was hearing a sound or something on his bed like uh moaning and rasping and some of

[00:46:44] that is that window yeah is that actually going to be a mundane thing or are we going to get

[00:46:49] a story where that is revealed to be like the haunted the haunting of his house kind of story

[00:46:54] but again we'll just have to wait and see yeah

[00:47:04] and like closing the window can still fix that problem because it could just be the monster

[00:47:08] or whatever is outside his room oh god it's like it's like in Salem's lot where like the

[00:47:14] where the vampire child is like outside the uh his best friend's window it's just like let me in

[00:47:20] and meanwhile he's like floating like on uh from the second floor

[00:47:27] I think they also did that in Buffy the the original Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie like the

[00:47:31] the friend who gets vampirized goes back goes to his friend and asks him to let him in is like

[00:47:36] and and the guys just like the guys like all drunk and like hung over from like the

[00:47:39] from the previous night's bender and like walks over to his window and his buddy's like hey buddy

[00:47:44] why don't let me in it's like no dude you're dead it's like no i feel great you're floating

[00:47:49] man and it cuts away to the other outside and he's like on like he's floating on from the second floor

[00:48:01] yeah but yeah that would be funny it was like yeah the monster is actually the house isn't haunted

[00:48:06] the the property is haunted on the outside of the house yes yeah so that that seemed to my actual

[00:48:16] thoughts okay I hope we didn't like shit on your your view here your uh your uh your actual thoughts

[00:48:24] here too much nope okay as part of our discussion is seeing how each of us view different things and

[00:48:34] see if we can improve or worsen each other's uh opinion of the different stories yeah fair

[00:48:43] speaking of gamer your actual thoughts how's that supposed to me

[00:48:51] my job now I have to ruin I have to tear this down for everybody here we go all right starting

[00:48:56] off with the art who is this man that is not gurgles and oh yeah no not bug man yes so yeah uh

[00:49:02] terrible story everyone hate it now right yeah hang on hang on a second hang on a second that

[00:49:08] that image you're talking about is is just from the creep pasta wiki right I don't know it's the only

[00:49:12] link you gave me did I give you the the reddit no sleep version no no we got the creepypasta one

[00:49:23] so on the creepypasta yeah yeah on the compasiton.com yeah uh one there is a an image of a close-up of

[00:49:31] it almost looks like a doll's face or something I don't know with like a bulging cartoony eyes

[00:49:36] that are like surrounded in red in the like a creepy smile and like pure a huge black afro honestly

[00:49:44] that goes off panel yeah yeah I'm not gurgles at all no it's not gurgles it's not bugman

[00:49:50] I like yeah I and it's I mean fortunately it seems like the version on creepypasta wiki

[00:49:57] and the reddit version are the same since we're not having any um issues between the versions

[00:50:03] mm-hmm um but yeah I remember because that's that was the one that we originally linked to

[00:50:07] when we first found out about gurgles and bugman but then clicking on the link it brought me to

[00:50:11] the reddit no sleep that revealed that like this is a part of a bigger thing um yeah so on the

[00:50:17] creep pasta wiki said yeah I agree I've seen that image before as like nightmare fuel photos

[00:50:22] and like photoshopped and stuff like that and I thought oh this is where that that photo comes from

[00:50:28] except it has nothing to fucking do with this fucking story yeah because I saw that image and I'm

[00:50:35] like okay who's this character gonna be that starts describing gurgles is this thin man and

[00:50:39] a student like oh okay that's probably him that's like his eyes are pure black it's like okay yeah

[00:50:43] he's got black pupils with no way around at all uh okay never mind then maybe just a little off

[00:50:50] he still has to have right around his eyes right with black around his eyes just like okay you

[00:50:55] yeah his hair is like clown colorful hairs and then if you go to bugman it's like all right maybe

[00:51:00] it's bugman and then it's like and it's like he's got like it's like like eyes like that of an insects

[00:51:06] and like uh in a slip mouth like a vertical slip mouth it was like okay that's not that's not

[00:51:10] bugman at all maybe this is nair that's who it is well now we have a visual or even worse

[00:51:21] maybe this is uh what's that what was the kid that died dylan

[00:51:24] dylan you son of a bitch shit what it was there yeah i think you're right

[00:51:31] yeah darryl darryl yeah yeah it was darryl that's actually darryl that's actually the photo on the

[00:51:38] from the obituary wow that's just the way he looked after getting excited yeah

[00:51:47] oh god that's terrifying yeah so with how bool uh gurl's is and bugman honestly to an extent

[00:51:57] i guess both of them yeah considering how well they're described like when it was describing them

[00:52:03] it painted a very vivid picture in my head yeah it deserves proper art honestly legitimately i want

[00:52:10] to draw i'm like i think this like after we're done recording and some of that i may actually sit

[00:52:14] down and draw up gurl's and bugman howl yeah and then like post online because like that is like

[00:52:20] like legitimately i i love it up to creepypasta.com uh i mean like what do you want like to actually

[00:52:28] have like a like i'm fine doing fan art and so that but you actually want to have a preview

[00:52:33] like a visual preview of what gurl's and bugman look like oh yeah before you read the story

[00:52:37] because like sometimes that ruins the story it does you're right um like maybe it was

[00:52:42] at the bottom of the page maybe i don't know but yeah um like yeah like legitimately like

[00:52:49] i i 100% agree with you like gurl specifically like is 100% one of my night my nightmare demon

[00:52:57] bugman is just like you know what bugman is what was that bugman is day to veto dressed up as the

[00:53:05] fly you're not wrong but like you know but like a creep like it's like he this is actually

[00:53:11] gurl's and bugman is actually like a lost episode of uh of uh always sunny in philadelphia

[00:53:19] it's just it's just uh uh what's the guy's name day or something day um uh the one the one actor

[00:53:27] that's like usually like uh like usually helping dan to veto's character only one last named day is

[00:53:33] like charlie i think yeah charlie yeah it's just it's charlie day as is gurgles or um and or

[00:53:39] the or the taller or like the tallest of the cast as gurgles and then just day to veto his bugman

[00:53:46] yeah sounds about right but uh yeah no like legit like i love the descriptions of these characters

[00:53:52] because like they are so cool and creepy and like and even like later on i think in the story it

[00:54:00] even says that like uh gurl's has like like sharp teeth right uh really like when he is um when

[00:54:09] he's mugging the camera basically like uh like earnest yeah so you know what you know what he gurgles

[00:54:14] is basically one of the 28 days uh no 20 days later um uh the um 30 days of night vampires

[00:54:22] because they are they are basically sharks like they are human sharks because they

[00:54:27] have like pure black like eyes like a shark's eyes and they're they don't have fangs they have

[00:54:32] just rows of sharp teeth wow so yeah like that that's what these are like that's what gurgles is at

[00:54:39] least and then bugman is just a horrible mutation also it's interesting you're bringing up humanoid

[00:54:49] with shark teeth very recently uh one day ago uh game games reviewed a uh a game called breggs

[00:54:58] deadly draft where there is a uh a shark mascot for a football team that's evil and converting the other

[00:55:06] people on the football team into shark people with shark teeth nice connective tish's time yeah we got

[00:55:14] one in yeah we got him nice yeah that's the end of my note on the art i guess yeah yeah that's how

[00:55:24] we got here holy shit yeah yeah whatever said agree like on your side it either needs no art

[00:55:32] or accurate art maybe down at around when it's saying what they look like or at the end of the

[00:55:40] story or something yeah oh god so i might even do what i might do is i might comp it and like make a

[00:55:47] like the gurgles and bugman show and like have it like all like on a staticky like old school

[00:55:52] tv like like an intro yeah exactly like last screen yeah maybe maybe look at uh like find see

[00:56:00] see what the font and like logo is for impractical jokers or candid camera yeah that'd be fun yeah we'll

[00:56:08] have we'll we'll see if that makes it own to internet land um prior or after this episode gets launched

[00:56:16] but yeah so look for that internet yeah anyway moving on yeah so the start of the story happens

[00:56:26] and it says after my last experience my parents remind me of another story from my childhood

[00:56:30] so i i sure hope this is me in the moment i sure hope that bringing up this past trauma for nare

[00:56:37] would have a purpose here because like if nare was currently trying to deal with the paranoia

[00:56:42] being stalked and killed by a ghost from the previous story i don't think scaring him more

[00:56:46] will help his parents otherwise uh this bad parenting 101 basically yeah and edit as of

[00:56:55] reading the entire story no they don't explain why parents decided to re-scar their child

[00:57:01] tearing off that bandit yeah well i mean maybe they did inadvertently it was like hey remember

[00:57:05] that like oh no yeah yeah how did that conversation go actually no think about it

[00:57:10] yeah their kid just gets back from nom he's like i've seen some shit okay every time i gotta say it

[00:57:17] now because it's like it's hit the tip of point every time you said like he comes back from vietnam

[00:57:21] or not like it i like you immediately switch it like from that hiking trip but like every

[00:57:26] time you say like every time he comes back from vietnam i immediately think that he's like

[00:57:30] he's a vietnam veteran yeah from the vietnam i know son

[00:57:38] yeah i was in um yeah but no yeah that is one of the weird things just the entire presence of the

[00:57:51] story doesn't really have a purpose right now maybe further on we find out that with him learning

[00:57:57] more and more about all like the weird shit that's going on it has a purpose you know

[00:58:02] it goes somewhere instead of just scarring this four guy more yeah by the end of the series he's

[00:58:08] just going to be like uh like you know in a sane asylum like a report like posting his last video

[00:58:13] before he goes in as he's just the curls up into a ball and just cries yeah fair

[00:58:19] that's gonna happen this guy yeah yeah we got like we got nine more stories based off of this

[00:58:26] yo we don't know this this guy's like entire childhood and upbringing basically yeah that's the

[00:58:33] next year this happened then the next year this happened yeah and that's if the story keeps like

[00:58:37] focusing on his childhood like maybe some of the some of the new ones will be like stuff that

[00:58:41] is like happening more in the present but yeah or like stuff that happened to his friends

[00:58:47] yeah we've already had one of his acquaintances die yeah when he was five so like that's

[00:58:54] again that's not really a friend or an acquaintance that's just like a kid he went to school with

[00:58:58] hey now you're a rock star get your game on gamer yeah um he says when you're five everyone's

[00:59:07] your friend which means Derek was his friend and you know what they say at all at Olive Garden

[00:59:14] when you hear your family yeah oh god it's just Dom no

[00:59:23] Dom Dom's just like sitting in an Olive Garden

[00:59:27] I'm sorry the tangent place are like I can hear the sirens outside the door uh I'm sorry

[00:59:37] it's like tangent before they kick the door down I wonder if anyone has done

[00:59:41] like a uh a splice of like Dom from Gears of War doing oh

[00:59:51] yeah is Dom Dom's the one quick yeah oh quick aside is Dom the one that like um

[00:59:58] that's like Marcus's friend like his best friend oh my god because like in in in Gears 2

[01:00:05] he's always talking about his family he's always talking about his family and he is the one that drives

[01:00:10] a vehicle into the uh into the uh the uh uh the fuel station yep it's like yeah there's a lot of

[01:00:21] strange parallels between Dom from Gears and Dom from Festive Furious Dom thing yeah also I definitely

[01:00:30] thought you were saying like I wonder if there's like been splices of like adding Dom from Festive

[01:00:34] Furious into Olive Garden ads oh that is gonna happen yeah that has gotta be a thing yeah

[01:00:44] if not if that hasn't happened yet exactly like if that's not a thing I'm just I'm not mad

[01:00:50] internet I'm just disappointed yeah tangent over um notes also over honestly oh really

[01:00:58] yeah because I you guys basically got although all of my other ones were chimed in enough to

[01:01:05] talk about them already ah fair all right well uh I suppose we move on to final thoughts then

[01:01:12] so initially as it started it felt like a throwback to other classic creepypastas

[01:01:18] as my thoughts here have brought up but as I concluded or as I concluded the story

[01:01:25] I like how it took those elements those themes and tropes and I feel it made something of its own

[01:01:35] with it um I do wish it were longer or that we got we we that we might get more stories

[01:01:45] with Gurgles and Bugman honestly because between this story and the previous one

[01:01:51] this this series of stories I feel like it's going to be developing into an anthology series of just

[01:01:57] like weird and creepy things that Nair experienced through his life and is fine in the terms with

[01:02:05] but I guess we'll see how the how the future unfolds for for for Nair who I kind of hope

[01:02:11] we get a name for Nair yeah because like we're learning about this guy's childhood like

[01:02:17] we know more about this guy and his upbringing than most actual named character yeah and I mean

[01:02:24] anonymity in in creepypastas is nothing new it's it's practically a trope in itself

[01:02:29] yeah but most of the time they do that so you can self-insert yourself as the character

[01:02:35] but with the amount of learning about this guy's past and stuff we can't self-insert

[01:02:41] because we're not that guy no that's true oh yeah or like sometimes they do it because

[01:02:46] like they don't want to be they don't want to name names kind of thing they don't want to be like

[01:02:51] identified but like that's why you have alias isn't it yeah so yeah maybe we will get his name down

[01:02:57] the road I would it'd be interesting to finally to get to know this this character's name just so

[01:03:01] we we're not just using Nair ator our default uh Nair character or like a first person name

[01:03:08] technically the character of Nair quote unquote has experienced more shit than any creepypasta

[01:03:14] protagonist yeah well yeah yeah Nair ator is the avatar of the first person creepypasta protagonist

[01:03:21] yes but um it's it's actually a mantle it's not one it's not any one person it's just like it's

[01:03:30] it's a mantle in which many people dawn but uh it's passed down every time a Nair gets killed

[01:03:37] in the story yeah exactly or or vanishes from from uh from like what's the story like if the

[01:03:43] story like doesn't go on any further we never learn the truth it doesn't mean just kind of by

[01:03:48] default passed on to the next one yes but uh yeah so um yeah all of this to say like I'm I'm still

[01:03:56] going to recommend this I this is my jam this is my genre of creepypasta like the the spooky

[01:04:04] spooky haunted or cursed um tv channel like I've said in the past like 1999 was one of

[01:04:12] my like my first creepypastas um it basically got you into it right yeah that and candle cove like

[01:04:19] basically where the follow up was like a follow-up so it's like this this was basically my genre like

[01:04:24] this is what got me into creepypasta in the first place and I feel like this story itself is like

[01:04:30] a letter to you specifically and your introduction to creepypasta I wouldn't go that far I'd say

[01:04:38] it's catered toward my yeah my my personal my my personal experiences with creepypastas in my

[01:04:44] like preference so yeah um that's why I'm gonna recommend it like it's it's a good uh take on

[01:04:53] the cursed spooky or haunted tv channel genre I love that that's a genre of horror just like

[01:05:01] yeah cursed spooky or I guess just spooky spooky tv channel or show

[01:05:09] but uh yeah uh Mikey the sense of evil hey uh so

[01:05:17] this does have some creepy elements to it uh and I did like some of it but to me

[01:05:29] it's overshadowed by the fact that it's his parents telling him most of this

[01:05:37] so it that whole trope annoys me yeah and the fact that this is like I said an f u to the previous

[01:05:50] story which I previously liked uh it just it it came out of the gate swinging at me hating it

[01:06:05] so to quote Benny from new vegas the game was rigged from the start

[01:06:11] yeah so like I'm not gonna deny that there is some creepy things in this but it's from an unreliable

[01:06:26] narrator which is the narrator's parents but depending on how old there is and how old

[01:06:36] the parents are they might be more reliable than you think yeah but we don't know yeah yeah uh so

[01:06:48] because of this I'm still not going to recommend it and I hope that the next stories

[01:06:55] don't piss me off from the get go I suppose we'll have to wait and see

[01:07:06] and uh gamer for me it was a nice combo of a couple creepy bosses that we've always spoke fondly of

[01:07:14] personally didn't see the the twist coming because like I immediately connected it to

[01:07:19] being a mr bear like story yeah but I was like pleasantly surprised with the twist

[01:07:26] there wasn't too much in the way of dirtness in regards to uh uh this story is a short easy read

[01:07:33] there was a fake out dirtness for a second like we thought it was gonna be derpy and they're like no

[01:07:38] no that's actually pretty reasonable yes yes I was like ready with the derp stamp like ready to go

[01:07:47] I'm watching you I love I just love like like print off a creepypasta and then just have a big

[01:07:53] old stamp that just says derp I kind of we need to do that we need to have like we need to like

[01:07:59] we need to have like a derp stamp made you have to do that um I did it uh but yeah uh there's very

[01:08:13] little wrong with it dramatically was a it was an easy to read story however like the entire

[01:08:20] purpose of the story being told to us is strange to me as it has like no real connection to

[01:08:26] the previous events aside from him just saying after my last experience uh yeah we'll have to we'll

[01:08:33] have to see how they like if this is just going to be like an anthology of just like

[01:08:40] things that they experienced but they have no connection to each other or

[01:08:45] if it's there's going to be some kind of like tying like connective tissue as it were yeah

[01:08:51] and I was I said at the end of the last story I hope the next story goes further into

[01:08:58] Nair's like the headspace at this point and whether he's actually being stalked by a ghost or if

[01:09:05] he's actually like on a like a ticking clock for when he's gonna die because whether he saw the

[01:09:11] face of the previous ghost or not I don't know but like there's just no connection to the

[01:09:16] previous story which is my biggest problem with it however the read itself was was fun and interesting

[01:09:24] and I like the characters enough that I'm still going to recommend it like it's it's on the verge of

[01:09:30] being partial simply just because there's no connected tissue yeah but the story itself was

[01:09:37] good so I still liked it all right I just hope that further stories connect things more

[01:09:46] and we actually see a progression of what's happening to Nair in the current time

[01:09:51] yeah yeah because I think I find like we also tend to like those kind of like series of stories

[01:09:57] like where the character is like there's an overarching mystery or there's an overarching

[01:10:03] like thing that the character over the course of stories begins investigating into and such

[01:10:09] so it would be it would be nice it would be neat if the story actually did that like pull that

[01:10:13] off yes but we shall see mickey I heard you snickering there what or what was that about

[01:10:24] oh nothing you sure well it just that uh if this was assassin's creed we really want the modern day

[01:10:36] we're just getting the stories in the past what's happening in modern day

[01:10:42] is that what it's like in the current ones like they don't really talk about the modern day anymore

[01:10:47] no they do but it's it's more it'd be it's becoming more and more just like a simple

[01:10:50] like wrap around yeah yeah well well the last assassin's creed game did not have any modern day

[01:10:58] really um no that's not true well oh no wait is that are you talking about um yeah mirage

[01:11:03] oh really yep oh you just kind of play out the events of the past that kind of makes sense

[01:11:10] based on because because mirage is kind of an extension of valhalla and a certain event that

[01:11:14] happens at the end of valhalla so it does kind of make sense but that is kind of sad at the same time

[01:11:21] it sounds like they're just sort of giving up on the modern day thing and be like oh people are

[01:11:25] only here for the past stuff and you know what's funny well you know what's funny I I think we're

[01:11:31] I think we're on the on the page that we liked the modern stuff but I know there's a large

[01:11:36] assassin's creed uh fan base like like section of the fan base that has wanted them to do away with

[01:11:43] the modern stuff since the beginning probably just have a be historical globetrotting adventures

[01:11:49] every episode every every uh every uh every version or every um every instance so

[01:11:58] but again that's not the love the story it's really not what is video game related so I'm

[01:12:04] gonna let it pass that's fair part of his bit so we have to let it go but uh yeah so um

[01:12:18] you gave your your still recommending it gamer yeah I'm still recommending because I liked what

[01:12:22] was there I just wish there was a connection but it it's teetering on the the edge on the

[01:12:27] precipice of being partial yeah but it's fine all right well uh I suppose we'll see in the in

[01:12:36] future version or future stories for this series so but uh yeah so two recommendations and one

[01:12:45] non recommendation it really just kind of depends on your opinion on certain tropes

[01:12:49] and themes in creed pasta and if you get ruined at the very start I know for a fact

[01:12:55] yes I've read stories where I read something a certain way and it ruins my entire enjoyment of

[01:13:01] the whole story so I see you are stealing my car out my game I just edited actually one uh like

[01:13:09] recently that where you that happened to you gamer yeah like yeah but yeah no it also yeah depends

[01:13:16] on like because again like some of us really enjoy like the the parents like telling their

[01:13:22] their child like something that they did when they were younger that like

[01:13:26] revolutionizes something that they or like terrifies them from something they

[01:13:30] they realize they get a revel a horrible revelation and then like like if you're if you're

[01:13:35] like Mikey like sometimes like that that just doesn't do it for you and that's that's fine

[01:13:38] like yep so everyone has their own likes and dislikes and that's partly why we

[01:13:45] say our initial recommendations and say that like it's basically like if you are like minded to

[01:13:51] eat any one of us you might think the same way

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