ADR - Episode 519: MovieBuff, 23, 90 Feet Away
Al Dente RigamortisMay 02, 2024
530
01:13:5579.15 MB

ADR - Episode 519: MovieBuff, 23, 90 Feet Away

(MovieBuff, 23, 90 Feet Away): https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/MovieBuff,_23,_90_Feet_Away 

Intro/Outro music: Ghost Story by Kevin MacLeod

Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3805-ghost-story 

License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license 

Thumbs up to all our listeners, the community of creepypasta wiki and the stories creator/poster: SerenaWrites. Without, we wouldn't have this discussion. So thank you all!

(SerenaWrites): https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/User:SerenaWrites 

(creepypasta wiki): https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Creepypasta_Wiki 

Comment below or send us an email at aldenterigamortis@gmail.com

Also check out the title cards for each episode: http://crazonstudios.tumblr.com/ 

And if you want to show your support, consider becoming a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/aldenterigamortis

[00:00:00] Oh hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis, I'm Review Cultist.

[00:00:22] I'm Mik.E, the East End of Evil.

[00:00:24] And I'm the Gamer in Yellow.

[00:00:26] And we're here to discuss those internet stories most creepy and most pasta and be

[00:00:30] critically silly doing it.

[00:00:32] Tonight we have Movie Buff 2390 feet away.

[00:00:37] So this is another story by Serena Wrights because this was on her list of stories

[00:00:43] specifically to cover on the show through her email.

[00:00:47] Brutally so.

[00:00:49] Well, we can be as brutally honest as we want.

[00:00:53] And again, we're going to give the story the same treatment we give all the stories

[00:00:58] that come on the show.

[00:01:00] So yeah.

[00:01:02] But yeah, so this is by Serena Wrights.

[00:01:05] It's on Creepos.wiki.

[00:01:07] And yeah, before we get settled in, let's give our initial recommendations.

[00:01:13] I'm going to...

[00:01:15] Hello?

[00:01:17] Sorry, my pregnant pause was a little too pregnant there.

[00:01:23] It's a term for like doing a really long pause, like a pregnant pause.

[00:01:28] I was going to say, what are you expecting?

[00:01:30] I hate you.

[00:01:32] But yeah, I am going to tentatively recommend the story.

[00:01:40] I'm going to not recommend this story.

[00:01:45] Ditto actually.

[00:01:47] Interesting.

[00:01:48] For who I'm dittling, you'll never know, Mikey.

[00:01:52] We all assumed Gamer.

[00:01:55] All right.

[00:01:57] Well, let's find out why we gave those quite dynamic overpowering recommendations

[00:02:05] or non-recommendations.

[00:02:08] Starting with the rundown.

[00:02:11] So Sandy is checking Grindr for someone to be with one night.

[00:02:16] It's a little or no avail, but suddenly he gets a notification from someone,

[00:02:20] however, a really cute guy going by MovieBuff23 and 90 feet away, credits,

[00:02:30] but from Sandy's location.

[00:02:34] The person also sends a message and as Sandy replies back, inquiring about why

[00:02:39] they are so close to their current location, it's revealed that this person is a

[00:02:44] neighbor's son, Ike.

[00:02:47] Sandy agrees for Ike to come over, watch some DVDs and chill.

[00:02:52] Upon arriving, Ike practically sweeps Sandy off his feet and then Ike pulls out

[00:02:58] an unbranded DVD out of a bag and pops it into the player before cuddling up

[00:03:03] to Sandy.

[00:03:04] And then the film that's shown on the DVD reveals Ike and Sandy with Ike

[00:03:09] torturing Sandy with a taser.

[00:03:11] And Sandy in real life begins feeling that taser, or at least the shocks of it.

[00:03:17] Confused, Sandy reels from the pain and Ike insists they keep watching.

[00:03:23] Sandy suffers more pain as FilmIke begins drilling into FilmSandy

[00:03:31] and Ike gets up off the couch and reveals that this has been going on

[00:03:37] for about five months now since Ike's parents died in a car crash.

[00:03:42] For some reason, Ike and Sandy hooked up five months ago and I guess Ike

[00:03:51] started killing Sandy and taped it, but then despite that, despite Sandy

[00:03:59] dying both in the film and in reality every night, he comes back in the

[00:04:04] morning and forgets the previous events.

[00:04:07] Ike is very curious as to why this is, and so he's been doing this for five

[00:04:13] months now.

[00:04:14] Ike leaves Sandy to finish the death loop before Sandy feels a gun at the

[00:04:20] back of his head and it goes off.

[00:04:23] And it's the next morning and for a long time now, Sandy has been

[00:04:28] waking up with a headache on his living room floor.

[00:04:32] No idea why.

[00:04:33] He then goes to check Reinder for another prospect to little or no avail.

[00:04:38] Fin.

[00:04:39] So that was the rundown for MovieBuff 23, 90 feet away.

[00:04:47] And let us move on to everyone tolerance of Ram Inquisitions at this

[00:04:55] point.

[00:04:56] And I've got a few.

[00:04:57] I'm going to start with this one here.

[00:04:59] Can I come over?

[00:05:00] I'll bring some DVDs.

[00:05:02] So DVDs in that sentence is lowercase DVDs like DVDs.

[00:05:09] I wanted to correct this with saying that usually DVDs has the DVD

[00:05:20] part cap, like all caps.

[00:05:22] But this and all the other replies previous and after in this section

[00:05:30] of the story are technically text messages with bad typos and grammar.

[00:05:36] So say it with me.

[00:05:39] It's the way the character types.

[00:05:42] I gave us a tire section to pass because it's totally how people

[00:05:50] type on the type of typos that you get in text and typing and stuff

[00:05:56] like that.

[00:05:57] These days, autocorrect might just fix that.

[00:06:00] See, I'm both with you and against you on that because I hate autocorrect

[00:06:07] 100%.

[00:06:08] It's constantly fucking over my own spelling on texts.

[00:06:12] So yeah, I think it's just as valid.

[00:06:17] Because they're clearly...

[00:06:19] I'm going to open a text with you right now and type in DVD and

[00:06:23] see what happens.

[00:06:24] What I mean for this is this was purposely added to the story.

[00:06:30] This was not an unintentional typos and errors and stuff like that.

[00:06:34] This was meant to be in the story for that kind of flavor or immersion.

[00:06:43] So yeah.

[00:06:44] That's why I'm not actually going to gripe too hard on the fact that

[00:06:48] DVDs should be in all caps in this one.

[00:06:51] I'm not talking about any of the other issues with the text messages in

[00:06:57] this section because it's clearly intentional for the immersion of it.

[00:07:01] But I'll move on to the next thing here.

[00:07:06] I opened the door for Ike.

[00:07:09] His hair is somehow perfectly kept even at this hour.

[00:07:14] So a tense talk, I suppose.

[00:07:18] Welcome to my tense talk, kind of.

[00:07:21] Most of the story appears to be in present tense though there's a few

[00:07:26] moments where words use contractions that could be construed as past tense.

[00:07:32] And this sentence in particular does have a past tense to it.

[00:07:38] So I think it should be like, I opened the door for Ike.

[00:07:41] Not I opened the door for Ike.

[00:07:44] Did you just say the same thing twice?

[00:07:46] Am I mishearing you?

[00:07:48] I open, like, O-P-E-N the door.

[00:07:51] That's the correction because in the story it's I opened the door.

[00:07:56] O-P-E-N-E-D.

[00:07:59] Yeah.

[00:08:00] Just for like, because maybe I'm just not able to pronounce it properly.

[00:08:05] Or I just wasn't paying attention to you as much as I should.

[00:08:08] Are we recording right now?

[00:08:10] Yes.

[00:08:11] Get your game face on, Gamer.

[00:08:14] My game face is always on.

[00:08:16] I wear no game face.

[00:08:19] But yeah, so it's sort of like a tentative tense talk for me because

[00:08:28] there's a couple, I think it's this sentence and there might be one or

[00:08:32] two other times in the story where when I was reading it, I was like,

[00:08:36] I wasn't sure if it was past tense or present tense.

[00:08:39] I was like, this feels like it's past tense but everything, there's a lot

[00:08:44] of contractions.

[00:08:46] Instead of like that will do or that would do, it's like that'll do

[00:08:53] kind of thing.

[00:08:55] Or the, like, there's certain words in the story I don't know if you

[00:09:00] know, past tense or present tense.

[00:09:03] I can't, but most of the story is present tense.

[00:09:06] So there might be one or two instances that if you went over the story,

[00:09:11] you'd be able to track them down and change them to present tense.

[00:09:17] But that's going to be my convoluted tense talk.

[00:09:20] The next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to go back to the

[00:09:25] next thing I have here is he was a plain black T-shirt and a pair of

[00:09:33] sweatpants.

[00:09:37] Okay, so he's just a set of clothing.

[00:09:40] Yes, with hair.

[00:09:42] With hair, yeah.

[00:09:44] And floating eyes, I guess.

[00:09:46] In all seriousness.

[00:09:48] His skin texture didn't load in.

[00:09:50] It happens to the best of us.

[00:09:52] Oh no, it's one of those horrible things that happens to the best

[00:09:56] of us.

[00:09:58] It's one of those horrifying Assassin's Creed unity glitches where you're

[00:10:04] having the romance scene and then the characters love interest, it just

[00:10:08] hurt their eyes and teeth.

[00:10:10] Yeah, pretty much.

[00:10:12] As you guys go through the kiss, it's like oh God.

[00:10:15] There's the true horror.

[00:10:17] But in all seriousness, I think the was there should be war or maybe

[00:10:23] even he's wearing.

[00:10:25] So like it was either he wore a plain black T-shirt, although that would

[00:10:29] be past tense.

[00:10:31] I think it should be he's wearing a plain black T-shirt and a pair of

[00:10:36] sweatpants.

[00:10:38] And then my last grammar inquisition is as follows.

[00:10:42] Ike laughed.

[00:10:44] I shot this several months ago with you.

[00:10:46] So you not remember?

[00:10:48] I think it should be so you don't remember or so you would remember

[00:10:54] maybe even.

[00:10:56] Perhaps.

[00:10:58] Because it's like either he's asking Sandy if so you don't remember this

[00:11:02] or get rid of that question mark at the end.

[00:11:06] So it's like I shot this several months ago with you, so you would

[00:11:10] remember.

[00:11:12] Yeah.

[00:11:14] I know it's dialogue, but I feel in this case this is actually a

[00:11:18] typo, an error.

[00:11:20] Not like the text messages from earlier.

[00:11:24] Yeah, also it's good to fix this for clarity too because what's the

[00:11:30] reason?

[00:11:32] Is it so he would remember or is he questioning why he doesn't

[00:11:35] remember?

[00:11:37] Which seems weird because this is five months into him killing him

[00:11:40] over and over.

[00:11:42] So he should not be surprised anymore.

[00:11:44] Yeah, exactly.

[00:11:46] But that is the end of my grammar inquisition.

[00:11:48] Mikey, these stands for evil.

[00:11:50] I have a conjunction junction.

[00:11:53] All right.

[00:11:55] And next stop conjunction junction.

[00:11:57] Doot doot.

[00:11:59] It's 11 p.m.

[00:12:01] and none of the fish are biting.

[00:12:03] It's the first time I've ever seen that on a real person.

[00:12:09] And his distance from me is it says he sent me a message.

[00:12:16] So maybe a response should clear things up.

[00:12:20] It didn't have any branding on it.

[00:12:23] It didn't have more than a black screen with white text that read

[00:12:29] never let me die.

[00:12:31] And it looked exactly like this very moment.

[00:12:37] It's not stopping at all.

[00:12:41] But Ike isn't even touching me anymore.

[00:12:45] And every night you die.

[00:12:49] It's like I've captured you.

[00:12:51] It's fascinating.

[00:12:53] It hurts.

[00:12:55] Finn.

[00:12:57] OK, so what I got from that visual, like I was actually like

[00:13:01] trying to play that in my head just based off of the context we

[00:13:06] have from those sentences.

[00:13:08] What I got was Sandy's out fishing.

[00:13:12] Like you're on or something like that.

[00:13:14] But like they're not getting anything.

[00:13:16] He gets a message on his phone or something like that.

[00:13:19] Or he sees he sees somebody on the shore who's like some

[00:13:23] distance away.

[00:13:24] He's not really sure how far.

[00:13:26] And then he gets a message on his phone and it's like the

[00:13:28] whole like like the the death part or the death screen, like

[00:13:34] the death text death title.

[00:13:36] And then and then he does catch a fish and starts talking to

[00:13:41] it.

[00:13:43] When you think of all the context, it's so weird.

[00:13:47] Yeah.

[00:13:49] There is also like a part where he's visualizing that

[00:13:52] like he's actually like on the shoreline like where he's

[00:13:55] fishing.

[00:13:56] There's also like it's actually a there's actually a

[00:13:58] big like the like drive in movie theater screen that's

[00:14:01] playing a movie or something while he's fishing.

[00:14:05] Very dreamlike logic on that one.

[00:14:10] Yeah.

[00:14:11] But that's kind of what happens when Mikey takes a bunch

[00:14:14] of sentences throughout the story and that start with

[00:14:17] words that they probably shouldn't like it's under

[00:14:19] butts and he puts them together in the story.

[00:14:21] And for the purpose of there's always better words

[00:14:24] to use at the start.

[00:14:25] I fucked up how I say that, but it's fine.

[00:14:27] It's all good.

[00:14:28] I mixed it up.

[00:14:29] It's fine.

[00:14:30] Yeah.

[00:14:32] All right.

[00:14:33] And then the gamer.

[00:14:34] Do we have a grammar in yellow?

[00:14:36] No, because you got mine.

[00:14:39] Fair.

[00:14:42] All right.

[00:14:43] Well, again, we'll step into the actual thoughts of

[00:14:45] the story.

[00:14:46] I feel like mine's gonna be very positive and you

[00:14:49] guys are gonna be very critical.

[00:14:50] Why would you think that?

[00:14:51] I don't know.

[00:14:52] It's weird.

[00:14:53] You're being very negative right now.

[00:14:54] I know.

[00:14:55] I'm being very negative.

[00:14:57] I'm being critical of you guys.

[00:14:59] Yeah.

[00:15:02] So we're gonna start with the title movie buff.

[00:15:06] Twenty three, ninety feet away.

[00:15:09] So the title at a glance seems creepy to start off

[00:15:13] with, but isn't the actual source of the creepiness

[00:15:17] in the story while still being poignant to the

[00:15:21] story.

[00:15:22] And I like that.

[00:15:24] Like, because like when you read it, it's like

[00:15:26] movie buff, twenty three, ninety feet away like

[00:15:28] that.

[00:15:29] And in the story, like there is something that

[00:15:30] happens.

[00:15:31] We get this and we get a little more context to

[00:15:33] this title specifically.

[00:15:34] And it's like, OK, that's actually kind of

[00:15:35] creepy.

[00:15:38] Though and as I was kind of like taking this note

[00:15:42] down in my for the episode, another idea for

[00:15:46] a title popped up in my head for this story.

[00:15:49] So you could call the story also Grindr house

[00:15:52] sort of like sort of like a play on grind

[00:15:55] house like movie genre, which is a film genre

[00:15:58] that's very, very deep into splatter punk horror

[00:16:01] and like exploitation style horror where it's

[00:16:03] like lots of there's a lot of focus on like

[00:16:06] sex and violence and graphic and gratuitous

[00:16:10] visceral experiences.

[00:16:14] And also a play on the word Grindr, which is

[00:16:17] that hookup or the hookup app.

[00:16:18] So yeah, it's also it's also like Grindr

[00:16:23] Grindr is the app in a house in in Sandy's

[00:16:27] house.

[00:16:31] It's the house that like the owners of the

[00:16:34] Grindr app like run it from with all the

[00:16:37] servers and stuff.

[00:16:38] Yeah, that's all right.

[00:16:40] Yeah.

[00:16:41] Also, if you want to take even further,

[00:16:43] technically Ike's been grinding experience in

[00:16:48] a way by doing this for like five months now

[00:16:51] trying to figure out why Sandy keeps coming

[00:16:54] back after.

[00:16:55] He's been like farming experience off of Sandy.

[00:16:58] Well, I mean, like in a way he has been

[00:17:04] because he's been trying to learn from what's

[00:17:07] been going on.

[00:17:08] Yeah.

[00:17:09] And after five months is still coming up.

[00:17:11] Nothing is or you still can't try to figure

[00:17:13] out why Sandy keeps coming back at this point.

[00:17:15] He's just being a masochist or a sadist,

[00:17:17] whichever whichever one is when you imply

[00:17:19] sadist, sadist, when you imply pain to

[00:17:22] another person.

[00:17:23] Yeah, because you're sadistic.

[00:17:24] Right.

[00:17:25] Yeah.

[00:17:26] So yeah, he's being a real sadist right now

[00:17:28] with like torment.

[00:17:29] Instead of with sift certainty, I'm pretty

[00:17:31] sure I'm right.

[00:17:32] Google, help me.

[00:17:34] Oh God, he's floundering.

[00:17:36] Help, help.

[00:17:38] Inflicting pain and humiliation on others.

[00:17:40] Yes, I'm right.

[00:17:41] Okay.

[00:17:42] Okay.

[00:17:43] Yeah.

[00:17:44] Your confidence has been restored.

[00:17:46] Yeah, I know what they.

[00:17:48] Yeah.

[00:17:51] Mikey, do you want to bring up something from that

[00:17:53] or sound like, Oh, I was just saying for the

[00:17:56] name of the the

[00:17:59] story could have taken that from the

[00:18:03] the text.

[00:18:04] Never let me die.

[00:18:05] Oh, yeah.

[00:18:06] It's on the DVD.

[00:18:07] That's also been the title for.

[00:18:09] Yeah.

[00:18:10] Like there's like don't get me wrong.

[00:18:12] Movie buff 2390 feet away is good because

[00:18:14] it's it's it does.

[00:18:15] It's a creepy sort.

[00:18:16] It's a it's an interesting and kind

[00:18:18] of creepy title that is connected to the

[00:18:21] story.

[00:18:22] But it also doesn't give away what's actually

[00:18:24] the creepiness of the source of the creepiness

[00:18:26] in the story.

[00:18:27] Yeah, for sure.

[00:18:28] So yeah.

[00:18:29] But I'll move on to the next thing I have

[00:18:33] here.

[00:18:34] His well groomed black hair accentuates his

[00:18:37] shockingly purple eyes.

[00:18:39] It's the first time I've ever seen that on

[00:18:42] a real person.

[00:18:43] He has this sort of aura you don't see often.

[00:18:46] His face is so friendly, yet there's something

[00:18:49] mysterious behind his eyes.

[00:18:51] So I don't want to stereotype, but at least

[00:18:55] in fiction and creepypasta specifically that

[00:18:58] we've covered in the last say like six, seven

[00:19:01] months.

[00:19:02] If someone has purple eyes, it's usually

[00:19:07] means there's something bad about them in

[00:19:10] the story.

[00:19:11] I believe.

[00:19:13] I believe the story we covered back in the

[00:19:16] fall, a fishing trip had like the main

[00:19:19] characters like love interest have like

[00:19:21] striking purple eyes.

[00:19:22] And then it was revealed that she was not

[00:19:24] only supernatural, but also like the

[00:19:26] antagonizing entity in the story.

[00:19:28] OK, but contacts exist.

[00:19:30] Yes, contacts do exist.

[00:19:32] But it's still like in stories.

[00:19:34] If a character is described as having very

[00:19:37] striking purple eyes and they're natural,

[00:19:39] there's probably something sinister about

[00:19:41] them in the creepypasta.

[00:19:43] Well, as far as Google says, violet eyes,

[00:19:46] this color is most often found in people

[00:19:48] with albinism.

[00:19:49] It is said that you cannot have violet

[00:19:52] eyes without albinism.

[00:19:54] So yeah, and that's just like that's like

[00:19:56] if somebody like actually googled that.

[00:19:58] So like if you don't, if you're not

[00:20:00] aware of that, yeah, either they have

[00:20:02] contacts on or there's something up with

[00:20:04] them like basically like it's sort of a

[00:20:07] red flag.

[00:20:09] If in horror fiction, if somebody has

[00:20:12] such unique eyes is what I was kind of

[00:20:15] getting at with this.

[00:20:16] So throughout the from the start of the

[00:20:18] story, I was like, I'm going to keep my

[00:20:20] eye on movie buff here.

[00:20:22] Nice.

[00:20:23] Yeah, that was all build up for a

[00:20:25] for fucking eye button.

[00:20:27] I'm sorry.

[00:20:28] Wow.

[00:20:30] But I'll move on to the next thing

[00:20:32] here.

[00:20:35] This kind of ties into something I brought

[00:20:37] up earlier.

[00:20:38] But like the the fact that he's like

[00:20:41] 90 feet away and such to the quote is

[00:20:45] he's on here looking for friends and

[00:20:48] hookups, which is the same for me.

[00:20:51] And his distance from me is dot dot

[00:20:53] dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot

[00:20:55] 90 feet away or 90 feet.

[00:20:58] That can't be right.

[00:20:59] That is actually really a really

[00:21:02] creepy situation right there.

[00:21:03] Like weird coincidence at best.

[00:21:06] And and this quote.

[00:21:09] Oh, sorry.

[00:21:11] Well, continue.

[00:21:12] But I have something to say about

[00:21:14] this.

[00:21:15] OK.

[00:21:16] And also this quote and like the

[00:21:18] rest of the paragraph are basically

[00:21:21] a fragmented title drop.

[00:21:23] I mean, yeah.

[00:21:25] And one more thing to

[00:21:29] quote Columbo.

[00:21:31] One more thing.

[00:21:33] I feel the use of a semicolon would

[00:21:36] work in place of the period before and

[00:21:39] in the sentence or in this in the

[00:21:41] quote I gave just so it's not such

[00:21:44] an abrupt stop with the period.

[00:21:47] So like so it would be like he's

[00:21:51] on here looking for friends and

[00:21:53] hookups, which is the same for me.

[00:21:55] Semicolon and his distance from me

[00:21:58] is dot dot dot.

[00:22:01] Oh, I was going to say, you know

[00:22:04] what?

[00:22:05] This is a semicolon so I don't

[00:22:06] understand them.

[00:22:07] So I'll just say sure.

[00:22:08] But when you explained it, it

[00:22:10] actually does sound right.

[00:22:11] Yeah, because like I remember when

[00:22:12] I was reading this, it just

[00:22:13] suddenly stopped it like which is

[00:22:15] the same for me period and his

[00:22:17] distance from me is that it's

[00:22:18] like I feel like that's a way to

[00:22:21] get around that like that being an

[00:22:23] and at the front of that story.

[00:22:24] That sentence is like not is

[00:22:25] combined is connect those two

[00:22:26] sentences together.

[00:22:27] Yeah, because they're directly

[00:22:28] related.

[00:22:29] Yeah.

[00:22:30] And you can even just do I suppose

[00:22:31] you could also just do away with

[00:22:32] the end too, because like at the

[00:22:33] semicolon it's like his distance

[00:22:34] from me is 90 feet.

[00:22:38] So yeah, that's that's what I got

[00:22:41] for this this quote and such.

[00:22:43] So Mikey, you said you said

[00:22:44] something.

[00:22:45] Yeah, my issue with this is the

[00:22:49] 90 feet.

[00:22:51] So I don't know if you've used

[00:22:53] any dating apps, but I think

[00:22:55] there are some apps, but the ones

[00:22:58] that I've used that aren't grinder,

[00:23:00] but they're basically have a limit

[00:23:04] to how close it says you are to

[00:23:07] someone.

[00:23:08] And that limit is one kilometer.

[00:23:11] Yeah, I was gonna ask that

[00:23:13] question.

[00:23:14] I am only ignorant about the

[00:23:16] data gap stuff.

[00:23:17] Yeah.

[00:23:18] Yeah.

[00:23:19] Because the thing is, you don't

[00:23:21] want stalkers to just be on

[00:23:23] their phone.

[00:23:24] I'm getting closer.

[00:23:25] I'm getting closer.

[00:23:26] Ah, they must live in that house.

[00:23:28] Like, yeah.

[00:23:29] Yeah, it's way too close for

[00:23:32] a dating app.

[00:23:33] True.

[00:23:34] Yeah.

[00:23:35] But I wonder if maybe I mean,

[00:23:38] again, I don't know that and

[00:23:40] you seem to say again, you

[00:23:42] don't want sexual stalkers.

[00:23:44] That is true.

[00:23:45] It would be the same.

[00:23:47] Yeah.

[00:23:48] Yeah.

[00:23:49] Yeah.

[00:23:50] Yeah.

[00:23:51] That's fair.

[00:23:55] Like that's a whole like,

[00:23:57] really, then you're just asking

[00:23:59] for horror stories.

[00:24:00] Yes.

[00:24:01] Yeah.

[00:24:02] That being said, all of us

[00:24:04] don't have direct knowledge

[00:24:07] of the grinder app.

[00:24:09] So maybe they're just

[00:24:10] incompetent over there.

[00:24:11] Who knows?

[00:24:12] They just let it go.

[00:24:13] Well, yeah.

[00:24:14] Like, yeah.

[00:24:15] Who's who's who's no who's

[00:24:17] to know?

[00:24:18] I mean, except for people who

[00:24:20] use Grindr who can maybe tell us

[00:24:22] in the comments.

[00:24:23] Yeah.

[00:24:24] Because, yeah, actually, I'm

[00:24:26] not aware of it.

[00:24:27] They are like, again, like

[00:24:29] 90 feet away.

[00:24:30] It just seems like such a

[00:24:31] weird like like that is kind

[00:24:32] of creepy if somebody is that

[00:24:33] close to and you can tell

[00:24:34] that somebody's that close.

[00:24:35] Yeah.

[00:24:36] Like, why are they so close?

[00:24:39] Hmm.

[00:24:40] Yeah.

[00:24:41] So that's just my comment

[00:24:45] on that is that it it

[00:24:48] doesn't make sense from an

[00:24:50] actual app standpoint to be that

[00:24:52] close.

[00:24:53] Yeah.

[00:24:54] All right.

[00:24:56] I'll move on to the next thing

[00:24:57] I have.

[00:24:58] Oh, sorry.

[00:24:59] You're you're good.

[00:25:01] Yeah, I'm good.

[00:25:02] OK, so I'll move on to the

[00:25:04] next thing I have.

[00:25:06] His response was fast.

[00:25:08] LMAO.

[00:25:09] Yeah.

[00:25:10] Watching the place for my folks

[00:25:12] this week.

[00:25:13] So this is like when you find

[00:25:15] out that like it is a neighbor's

[00:25:17] son and stuff like that.

[00:25:18] It's like, OK,

[00:25:20] so weird coincidence, I guess,

[00:25:22] as to reference what I said,

[00:25:23] where like that creepy situation is

[00:25:25] like a weird coincidence at best.

[00:25:27] Or is it?

[00:25:29] And then I have an update

[00:25:31] from after I actually finished

[00:25:32] reading the story.

[00:25:33] I mean, it was

[00:25:35] but also wasn't kind

[00:25:37] of sounds

[00:25:41] like you know exactly what you're

[00:25:42] talking about.

[00:25:43] It was a weird coincidence,

[00:25:45] but it was also creepy as shit.

[00:25:47] But also like it was sort

[00:25:49] of like both poor like

[00:25:51] poor Carlos dos.

[00:25:53] Yeah.

[00:25:55] But I

[00:25:57] it's not a coincidence when he's

[00:25:59] purposely doing it for five months.

[00:26:01] And that's where I'm getting at.

[00:26:02] Where's like initially before we

[00:26:04] found out that like he

[00:26:06] like what's like, oh, 90 feet.

[00:26:08] That's really creepy.

[00:26:09] Like that's just that's

[00:26:11] a really weird coincidence.

[00:26:12] It's like, oh, we find out he's

[00:26:13] a neighbor's son.

[00:26:14] OK, that's not that's actually

[00:26:15] it is a weird coincidence.

[00:26:16] But then we find out he's been

[00:26:17] doing this like in a time and a

[00:26:18] weird death time loop for five

[00:26:19] months. It's like, OK, that's no

[00:26:20] longer a coincidence.

[00:26:21] So yeah, I keep jumping

[00:26:23] back and forth.

[00:26:26] And roll across here.

[00:26:27] Yeah, a little bit.

[00:26:30] But I'll move on to the next

[00:26:31] thing I have.

[00:26:33] I watched him take out a movie

[00:26:35] from a bag.

[00:26:36] It didn't have any branding on

[00:26:38] it.

[00:26:39] What's that?

[00:26:41] Unbranded DVDs are always a

[00:26:43] good sign, he says

[00:26:45] sarcastically.

[00:26:46] Yeah, like

[00:26:48] this word was like, oh, here we

[00:26:50] go.

[00:26:53] And then we get this quote here

[00:26:54] actually that I continue on

[00:26:56] with.

[00:26:57] Watch the screen cut to a man

[00:26:59] tasing another man.

[00:27:00] They looked like me and Ike

[00:27:02] exactly like me and Ike.

[00:27:05] And it looked exactly like

[00:27:07] this very moment.

[00:27:09] Ike, what?

[00:27:10] Ah, what the hell was that?

[00:27:12] My whole body is being shocked.

[00:27:14] It's not stopping at all.

[00:27:15] But Ike isn't even touching me

[00:27:17] anymore.

[00:27:18] What's going on?

[00:27:20] There it is, that weird

[00:27:22] creepiness and like the

[00:27:24] pin drop on like what

[00:27:26] the creepiness that's supposed

[00:27:28] to be happening in the story,

[00:27:29] which is sad because this

[00:27:31] started off so sweet.

[00:27:33] And then, well,

[00:27:35] then reality came back

[00:27:37] and said, well, this is a

[00:27:38] creepypasta.

[00:27:39] Something actually has to

[00:27:40] happen.

[00:27:41] Yes.

[00:27:43] It can't all be nice and

[00:27:45] sunshine and rainbows.

[00:27:46] It could be, though, if it was

[00:27:48] buddy horror.

[00:27:49] It could be.

[00:27:50] Yeah. Like maybe he's into

[00:27:51] it. Maybe it turns out

[00:27:52] Sandy's a masochist.

[00:27:54] Yeah, exactly.

[00:27:57] But we don't get that.

[00:27:58] So no.

[00:27:59] Yeah.

[00:28:00] So this is not a buddy horror.

[00:28:01] This is sadly

[00:28:03] just a true horror or

[00:28:05] real horror.

[00:28:07] It's real.

[00:28:08] I meant like a real

[00:28:09] horror as in like it's not a

[00:28:10] buddy horror.

[00:28:11] It's like more like just

[00:28:12] a traditional horror story.

[00:28:14] Yeah.

[00:28:15] And then I have a pretty

[00:28:17] long quote here.

[00:28:18] So bear with me.

[00:28:21] Ike stood up and was now

[00:28:23] towering over me.

[00:28:24] It's like I've captured you.

[00:28:26] You go through your day to

[00:28:27] day life, come home

[00:28:29] and invite me over like it's

[00:28:31] the first time we've met.

[00:28:33] You know now,

[00:28:35] you know my folks died like

[00:28:37] five months ago, right?

[00:28:38] Car crash.

[00:28:39] I was so sad that I didn't

[00:28:41] even kiss you when I came in

[00:28:42] that day.

[00:28:43] Oh, my arm.

[00:28:46] I can't feel my arm.

[00:28:48] What I'll never understand is

[00:28:49] why you of all people won't

[00:28:52] die.

[00:28:53] It's fascinating.

[00:28:54] I come in, put on your

[00:28:56] snuff, let you live your

[00:28:58] death and leave every time

[00:29:01] you come back the next day

[00:29:03] with no memory of the

[00:29:04] night every single time.

[00:29:06] What's your secret?

[00:29:09] I was not expecting this.

[00:29:13] This turn of events.

[00:29:15] No, it's like the worst

[00:29:17] version of Groundhog's Day or

[00:29:19] like that movie Death Day

[00:29:21] or Happy Death Day, but

[00:29:23] like even worse than Happy

[00:29:25] Death Day because she doesn't

[00:29:26] like because the character

[00:29:27] doesn't remember dying.

[00:29:29] And so it's just trapped in

[00:29:31] a perpetual loop except for

[00:29:32] the killer is the only one

[00:29:33] that really knows it like

[00:29:34] remembers what's going on.

[00:29:38] I do really like Ike's.

[00:29:41] I like Ike's implied

[00:29:46] reasoning for doing this.

[00:29:47] Like it doesn't outright say

[00:29:50] it, but I got the impression

[00:29:52] that he seemed traumatized

[00:29:54] by the sudden death of his

[00:29:55] parents and then somehow

[00:29:58] found that this Magic or

[00:30:01] Cursed DVD loops Sandy's

[00:30:04] death and brings him back

[00:30:06] for some reason.

[00:30:07] And so it seems like maybe

[00:30:08] he's doing this to try and

[00:30:09] find out like how he might

[00:30:11] be able to use that to bring

[00:30:12] his parents back.

[00:30:13] Stretch.

[00:30:15] I think.

[00:30:16] And then like maybe in like

[00:30:18] the last five months he's

[00:30:19] been doing this.

[00:30:20] He's just like lost his

[00:30:21] he's been running rolling

[00:30:22] sand.

[00:30:23] He's been failing sand

[00:30:24] checks after sand checks

[00:30:25] and basically just got

[00:30:26] insane at this point.

[00:30:27] So he's just like it's he

[00:30:28] started off trying to use

[00:30:29] this to figure out a way to

[00:30:30] bring back his parents and

[00:30:31] then just went nuts.

[00:30:34] Oh shit.

[00:30:39] Yeah, nice.

[00:30:40] I did not deserve laughter.

[00:30:42] It's fine.

[00:30:45] Yeah.

[00:30:46] But yeah, so like that's

[00:30:47] that's sort of the thing.

[00:30:48] And there are a bunch of

[00:30:49] there's just a bunch of

[00:30:50] questions throughout the

[00:30:51] story.

[00:30:52] Despite the fact that I

[00:30:53] like this implied like

[00:30:55] potential reasoning for why

[00:30:56] Ike's doing this.

[00:30:58] There are a bunch of like

[00:30:59] questions that at least in

[00:31:03] this in this loop in this

[00:31:04] cycle of the loop don't get

[00:31:06] answered such as how did he

[00:31:09] get a cursed DVD?

[00:31:12] Did he make the snuff film

[00:31:13] with Sandy and then like put

[00:31:14] on the DVD or was it

[00:31:15] already on this DVD?

[00:31:16] And so like sort of like

[00:31:17] one of those weird

[00:31:18] supernatural things were

[00:31:19] like he found this DVD

[00:31:21] and saw that it was him

[00:31:22] and this guy this guy next

[00:31:24] door.

[00:31:25] And like he it's like

[00:31:28] was Ike dabbling in some

[00:31:30] dark postmodern magic prior

[00:31:32] and he's the real reason his

[00:31:34] parents died like he's not

[00:31:35] actually doing this to try

[00:31:36] and bring his parents back.

[00:31:37] He's the reason his parents

[00:31:38] died in a car crash and

[00:31:39] he's using doing this as

[00:31:40] some kind of like way to

[00:31:41] get his charges for magic

[00:31:45] in some twisted way.

[00:31:50] Yeah, it for me it's

[00:31:51] like it's it's twisted

[00:31:53] and there's that out of

[00:31:54] context horror that we'd

[00:31:56] like we don't have any

[00:31:57] answers to a bunch of

[00:31:59] questions where we it's

[00:32:04] like I wouldn't mind seeing

[00:32:07] the story explored like we

[00:32:09] I wouldn't mind getting a

[00:32:10] few more loops to kind of

[00:32:12] get some more information

[00:32:13] about the situation about

[00:32:14] the circumstances.

[00:32:15] Maybe you can get into

[00:32:16] like the the mind of a

[00:32:18] killer or the mind of the

[00:32:20] mind of of Ike to figure

[00:32:22] out why he's doing this

[00:32:23] and like how he got how

[00:32:25] well I guess it's sort

[00:32:26] of that thing in certain

[00:32:27] shows is like well I guess

[00:32:28] you're wondering where we

[00:32:29] got to this point and it

[00:32:31] cuts to like like the

[00:32:32] next loop is actually from

[00:32:33] Ike's point of view.

[00:32:34] So it's like we know

[00:32:35] Sandy's not going to

[00:32:36] remember any of this and

[00:32:37] so we can get like some

[00:32:38] information up from from

[00:32:40] from Ike's point of view

[00:32:42] at the same time though.

[00:32:44] I think for a short story

[00:32:46] like horror zinger this

[00:32:49] also works for me like

[00:32:51] not getting any context

[00:32:52] and just having this

[00:32:53] really weird fucked up

[00:32:54] loop at least if you

[00:32:56] don't read as long as

[00:32:57] as long as you just read

[00:32:58] like like do like a

[00:32:59] surface reading of the

[00:33:00] story because like if

[00:33:01] you're diving a bit deeper

[00:33:03] into like the words and

[00:33:04] into the into like the

[00:33:05] situation that's happening

[00:33:06] here there's a lot of

[00:33:07] questions to be asked.

[00:33:09] So I guess I guess what

[00:33:11] I'm trying to say here

[00:33:12] is like I like the I

[00:33:14] was thrown back by the

[00:33:15] the turn of events of

[00:33:16] like the horror aspect

[00:33:18] of it.

[00:33:19] I like the the the out

[00:33:21] of context like we don't

[00:33:22] know we're we're we're

[00:33:23] on we're we're in the

[00:33:24] same page as Sandy we

[00:33:25] have no idea why any of

[00:33:26] this is happening.

[00:33:29] But there are a lot

[00:33:31] of questions unanswered

[00:33:32] and I don't necessarily

[00:33:33] hate that but I wouldn't

[00:33:34] mind seeing a longer

[00:33:36] version of the story

[00:33:37] where we get like a

[00:33:38] couple more loops

[00:33:39] and we get Ike's point

[00:33:40] of view like see his

[00:33:42] spiral to madness as he

[00:33:44] maybe tries to bring back

[00:33:45] his parents or we just

[00:33:46] find out why he's

[00:33:47] doing this like I think

[00:33:48] that would be really

[00:33:49] cool.

[00:33:50] So yeah that's that's

[00:33:52] kind of what I was

[00:33:53] getting at with all my

[00:33:54] my own spiral.

[00:33:56] It's not a loop it's a

[00:33:57] spiral.

[00:34:00] Set up here with the

[00:34:03] this turn of events that

[00:34:04] we get in the story.

[00:34:05] So but yeah I'll move on

[00:34:07] to the next thing.

[00:34:08] I will never understand

[00:34:09] why I wake up on the

[00:34:11] floor of my living room

[00:34:12] every morning.

[00:34:14] It's the same.

[00:34:15] Oh no hang on.

[00:34:18] Why is the font have such

[00:34:19] a small such a small

[00:34:21] period.

[00:34:24] It really is like

[00:34:25] this isn't like the font I

[00:34:26] have like like it's 11

[00:34:28] font on Google Docs like

[00:34:30] where I grabbed this.

[00:34:32] OK let me try this again.

[00:34:35] I will never understand

[00:34:36] why I wake up on the

[00:34:37] floor of my living room

[00:34:39] every morning.

[00:34:40] It's the same.

[00:34:41] I wake up on the floor

[00:34:43] and I do the dinosaur

[00:34:46] with a searing headache

[00:34:47] and drenched in sweat.

[00:34:50] I don't get it.

[00:34:51] I don't get it.

[00:34:52] I don't get it.

[00:34:54] I look at my phone.

[00:34:55] No new Grindr notifications

[00:34:57] typical.

[00:34:58] Nobody in this town ever

[00:35:00] uses Grindr at night.

[00:35:02] So a final question

[00:35:05] like to top

[00:35:07] on to the pile of questions

[00:35:08] I have for of the story

[00:35:12] is the DVD straight up

[00:35:13] looping time like

[00:35:15] local time since it

[00:35:18] doesn't notice since since

[00:35:20] Sandy doesn't notice Ike's

[00:35:21] previous notifications

[00:35:22] on his phone.

[00:35:24] So like.

[00:35:26] Is it like he's dying

[00:35:27] and forgetting

[00:35:29] but his phone would have

[00:35:30] the notifications from

[00:35:31] the night before so has

[00:35:32] it been five months

[00:35:34] like consecutively or has

[00:35:36] just the last five months

[00:35:37] just been loops has

[00:35:39] been five months worth of

[00:35:40] loops for for Sandy

[00:35:42] and I guess like the

[00:35:43] town or the localized

[00:35:44] town.

[00:35:45] I didn't think about

[00:35:47] messages on the phone

[00:35:48] until just now.

[00:35:49] Right.

[00:35:50] I mean it's possible

[00:35:51] that after killing Sandy

[00:35:53] he goes in and just

[00:35:54] deletes the messages.

[00:35:56] Maybe.

[00:35:57] Yeah.

[00:35:58] I don't know.

[00:35:59] I'm just very curious

[00:36:00] like is it actually

[00:36:01] that like like is

[00:36:02] Sandy waking up the

[00:36:03] next morning

[00:36:06] not remembering anything

[00:36:07] that happened the night

[00:36:08] before and going to

[00:36:09] work and then doing

[00:36:11] doing his like has

[00:36:12] he been spending the

[00:36:13] last five months

[00:36:14] progressing his existence

[00:36:16] in the town and like

[00:36:17] doing like either

[00:36:18] going to work or

[00:36:19] whatever he's been

[00:36:20] doing and then

[00:36:21] coming home and

[00:36:22] checking Grindr and

[00:36:23] then getting that

[00:36:24] notification from like

[00:36:25] and then getting killed

[00:36:26] and then dying

[00:36:27] and then waking up

[00:36:28] in the next morning

[00:36:29] and repeating that

[00:36:30] like repeating his

[00:36:31] pattern.

[00:36:32] But life is going on

[00:36:33] or is the

[00:36:35] space time continuum

[00:36:37] of that area also

[00:36:39] affected like a la

[00:36:40] Groundhog's Day.

[00:36:42] No idea because we

[00:36:43] don't really have a

[00:36:44] lot of information.

[00:36:45] Also that was something

[00:36:46] that that was something

[00:36:47] I was going to chime

[00:36:48] in on before.

[00:36:49] It kind of seems like

[00:36:50] you're making a lot

[00:36:52] of assumptions to things

[00:36:54] that aren't said in the

[00:36:56] story at all.

[00:36:57] Namely the DVD and

[00:36:59] claiming that it's a

[00:37:00] magical DVD of some

[00:37:01] kind where it could

[00:37:03] literally just be a

[00:37:04] DVD and the magic is

[00:37:07] in like Sandy and

[00:37:10] his resurrection ability

[00:37:11] for some reason and

[00:37:12] he's recording the

[00:37:13] events to try to like

[00:37:15] find out what's

[00:37:16] happening.

[00:37:17] Ike is looking into

[00:37:18] that first into Sandy.

[00:37:20] Yes.

[00:37:21] Well the thing is like

[00:37:22] the thing with the DVD

[00:37:23] is like the inference

[00:37:24] I got from that is

[00:37:25] it being possibly

[00:37:26] cursed or magical

[00:37:27] because when Ike sees

[00:37:29] what's going on in

[00:37:30] the thing like he

[00:37:31] gets tasered in the

[00:37:32] film and he gets

[00:37:33] he feels getting

[00:37:34] tasered in real life

[00:37:36] when he is getting

[00:37:37] like I guess when

[00:37:39] Ike is putting a

[00:37:40] drill to Sandy

[00:37:42] he feels that pain

[00:37:43] he's like suddenly

[00:37:44] like he's like

[00:37:45] crippled by it

[00:37:46] and like and similarly

[00:37:47] like he hears the

[00:37:48] sound of a gun

[00:37:49] and then like

[00:37:50] feels one point

[00:37:51] over the back of

[00:37:52] his head like

[00:37:53] and it goes off

[00:37:54] and then it's

[00:37:55] lights out.

[00:37:56] So like that's what

[00:37:57] I was kind of

[00:37:58] getting at.

[00:37:59] That's why I was

[00:38:00] thinking was like

[00:38:01] why the DVD was

[00:38:02] was magical or

[00:38:03] cursed is because

[00:38:04] he's feeling the

[00:38:05] pain of that

[00:38:06] unless he's getting

[00:38:07] like weird like

[00:38:08] he's seeing what's

[00:38:09] going on on the

[00:38:10] film and it's

[00:38:11] just like

[00:38:12] retroactively like

[00:38:13] his memory suddenly

[00:38:14] his memory of those

[00:38:15] events are coming

[00:38:16] back to him

[00:38:17] and he's like

[00:38:18] like he's like

[00:38:19] he's like

[00:38:20] having a mental

[00:38:21] damage

[00:38:22] or that

[00:38:23] that mental

[00:38:24] trauma

[00:38:25] or like of

[00:38:26] seeing that

[00:38:27] stuff and like

[00:38:28] realizing that

[00:38:29] he's lived

[00:38:30] that again

[00:38:31] over and over

[00:38:32] again.

[00:38:33] Also I don't

[00:38:34] know if the

[00:38:35] drilling is like

[00:38:36] literal drilling

[00:38:37] like pulls out

[00:38:38] of our drill.

[00:38:39] I think you

[00:38:40] may have but yeah

[00:38:41] sorry.

[00:38:42] I think it

[00:38:43] just might mean

[00:38:44] like drilling

[00:38:45] well yeah and

[00:38:46] that's the thing like

[00:38:47] also it does

[00:38:48] say that like

[00:38:49] that Sandy was

[00:38:50] feeling this

[00:38:51] pain like from

[00:38:52] the film and

[00:38:53] so that

[00:38:54] and Ike was

[00:38:55] no longer near

[00:38:56] him or even

[00:38:57] touching him.

[00:38:58] Yeah.

[00:38:59] So like that's what

[00:39:00] I meant by like

[00:39:01] he's feeling

[00:39:02] suddenly this pain

[00:39:03] is happening and

[00:39:04] something to him

[00:39:05] seemingly psychologically

[00:39:06] or magically

[00:39:07] so like I could

[00:39:08] I guess it could

[00:39:09] be like a mundane

[00:39:10] thing where it's just

[00:39:11] like his memories

[00:39:12] are flooding back

[00:39:13] from like the event

[00:39:14] and then why does

[00:39:15] he die at the end

[00:39:16] of it like

[00:39:17] because

[00:39:18] unless like

[00:39:19] unless Ike like

[00:39:20] like he walks away

[00:39:21] but then

[00:39:22] comes back around

[00:39:23] like from like

[00:39:24] the other side of

[00:39:25] the room with

[00:39:26] a gun and just

[00:39:27] like shoots Sandy

[00:39:28] in the head

[00:39:29] in the back

[00:39:30] of the head

[00:39:31] in real life

[00:39:32] rather than

[00:39:33] as well as

[00:39:34] in the film.

[00:39:35] That's what I

[00:39:36] was getting

[00:39:37] at when I was

[00:39:38] like kind of

[00:39:39] inferring that

[00:39:40] like the DVD is

[00:39:41] cursed or magical

[00:39:42] because that's

[00:39:43] like

[00:39:44] but

[00:39:45] in

[00:39:46] like

[00:39:47] Sandy's

[00:39:48] resurrection abilities

[00:39:49] he doesn't

[00:39:50] talk about

[00:39:51] the DVD.

[00:39:52] Yes he does he

[00:39:53] he's just

[00:39:54] like here here's

[00:39:55] a DVD

[00:39:56] and then he

[00:39:57] says oh don't worry

[00:39:58] like like

[00:39:59] keep keep

[00:40:00] we got to

[00:40:01] keep watching

[00:40:02] that's my favorite

[00:40:03] part and

[00:40:04] I keep watching

[00:40:05] the film

[00:40:06] so

[00:40:07] yeah but there's

[00:40:08] no like

[00:40:09] explanation

[00:40:10] about this

[00:40:11] DVD at all

[00:40:12] From a certain, like I was able to enjoy the story. If I, if I was to read this,

[00:40:16] like not worry about any of the questions, I could probably, like, I could fully recommend

[00:40:21] this because it was just a cool, like, like, uh, weird time loop horror thing.

[00:40:25] But the more I read into it, that's why I had it tentatively recommend is because the more I

[00:40:30] re I read into things that I was reading in the story, the more I was looking like I

[00:40:34] was thinking about things in the story, the more I started questioning what the hell's going on.

[00:40:39] And that's why I feel like the story should probably have, I think this story would probably

[00:40:43] lend itself to having a longer version, uh, with like maybe multiple loops from the point of view

[00:40:49] of, of, uh, Ike, um, to kind of explain what's going on exactly. I just realized also that this

[00:40:55] is basically Groundhog's day if Bill Murray was a slasher because like Bill Murray is the

[00:41:01] only one who could in, in, in the Groundhog's day movie that can, that, that is aware of

[00:41:04] the time loop in the town that he's in. And he, he even says like, he's basically,

[00:41:08] what if God is just stuck in a time loop because he knows everything, he's omniscient

[00:41:12] because he knows everything and that's what happens to Bill Murray. Like he's gone through

[00:41:15] so many cycles. He knows exactly what everybody's going to do. Um, and he's the only one. So

[00:41:21] like, yeah, basically Ike is Bill Murray in this situation. Um, but yeah, like I, the,

[00:41:28] the, the big question at the very end of the story for me was like, yeah, is this, is this,

[00:41:32] uh, this time loop, um, focused on just Ike or like the local area around or not,

[00:41:39] not Ike focused around Sandy or is his death loop? Like basically has he been,

[00:41:45] has he been going to work like in progressing life, uh, like a day in day out or has this

[00:41:50] just been the same day and night for five months for, for him and possibly this town.

[00:41:57] Mm. So again, another, another question to add to my pile of questions because I,

[00:42:02] I dug too deeply into a short stories, um, uh, plot. Yeah. So, um, yeah, that's, uh,

[00:42:13] that's my actual thoughts here. So Mikey, the E stands for evil.

[00:42:19] All right. Uh, I'm going to start with something that, uh,

[00:42:26] I didn't realize until this podcast. Okay. So, uh, I misread the word tasing

[00:42:37] as teasing, teasing. So, uh, I'll give you the context. So, uh, I could feel his wrist

[00:42:52] grabbing mine as he started to shove his lips against me. Watch the screen cut to a man,

[00:42:59] teasing another man. They looked exactly like me and Ike, exactly like me and Ike.

[00:43:06] And it looked exactly like this very moment. Ike, what, what the hell was that?

[00:43:14] My whole body is being shocked. It's not stopping at all,

[00:43:18] but Ike isn't even touching me anymore. What's going on? So I just envisioned

[00:43:27] that it was a really, really good kiss. Yeah. Yeah. Sparks literally flew.

[00:43:34] Yeah. Sparks are literally flew as they, yeah.

[00:43:40] And also because of the exactly section, the exactly like me and Ike,

[00:43:45] and it looked exactly like this very moment, my mind went to space balls.

[00:43:51] Oh, God damn it. Like that moment's past when just now, when will then be now soon.

[00:44:05] So good.

[00:44:06] Yeah. So, so that just made me laugh. But then obviously it goes on to say that it was recorded

[00:44:14] earlier and whatnot. So yeah, it's like, okay.

[00:44:17] Well, I mean, so was in that scene in space balls. So

[00:44:31] anyway. Yeah.

[00:44:32] Anyway. Yeah.

[00:44:35] So the, because I didn't read it as tasing. Oh no.

[00:44:44] I was fine with what was happening to some degree. But when it's actually put in context of tasing,

[00:44:54] why is Sandy able to talk? Yeah.

[00:45:00] That's true. I mean, yeah.

[00:45:03] It's literal tasing, or if it's just like the electrical kind of feeling. We don't know

[00:45:09] specifics. Yeah. Like video is Ike literally taking a taser to him.

[00:45:16] That's what I, that's in the film. That's what I assume is going on.

[00:45:19] Yeah. Yeah. So like, and it sort of lends to what you were saying earlier, Gamer.

[00:45:25] Like is this actually like, is this actually happening to, to real life sand or like real

[00:45:32] world Sandy now, like non-film Sandy now. Or is he just, he's just remembering or recalling

[00:45:39] the painful memories of what happened previously kind of thing. Yeah.

[00:45:42] Cause if it's a recollection, then he might be able to talk.

[00:45:45] That's what I'm trying to say. Yes. Yeah. Sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off.

[00:45:48] It's fine. I'm terrible at this.

[00:45:50] It's fine. God damn it. All right. Sorry. Continue. Yeah.

[00:45:56] All right. So while I was reading this, I was trying to think like, well, where's the

[00:46:07] monster? And originally you think it's Ike because of the eyes.

[00:46:15] And then what Ike does, but then it's revealed that Sandy is immortal and just won't die.

[00:46:27] So in that case, he is also a monster.

[00:46:31] Wow. So

[00:46:34] yeah, Sandy's shooting death. He is supposed to die.

[00:46:37] I guess. Yeah.

[00:46:40] And I mean, Ike is just become or is a serial killer that is having fun killing someone over

[00:46:48] and over. Hey, I'm not getting in trouble for this because he's still alive.

[00:46:53] Wait, is this actually a buddy horror between a serial killer and an immortal?

[00:47:02] A one man serial killer or one victim serial killer?

[00:47:07] And his immortal victim also slash lover?

[00:47:15] Maybe. Wow. Because I remember like

[00:47:19] at the very early in this episode, we were like, oh, this isn't a buddy horror at all.

[00:47:23] I was like, wait, we found the secret buddy horror.

[00:47:31] Yeah.

[00:47:33] And then my last actual thought here is

[00:47:40] about him waking up on the floor in his living room every morning and

[00:47:45] with a headache drenched in sweat and he doesn't get it. So my mind went to South Park.

[00:47:53] Yes.

[00:47:53] Kenny. Yeah, Kenny. Yeah.

[00:47:57] I need to like take like be a date or be a gamer's like mention of Kenny. Just like

[00:48:02] just syncing them up. Yeah.

[00:48:07] I'm tired guys. I gotta go to bed.

[00:48:10] Oh my God. Kenny, just kill Kenny.

[00:48:16] Oh God, it's happening again.

[00:48:18] Oh man, whoever if you're not aware of that episode, what episode is that?

[00:48:25] I think it was in a movie.

[00:48:29] Isn't that the Mysterio one?

[00:48:31] Oh yeah.

[00:48:33] When you're playing, yeah, when they're comic book heroes and so I think that's like

[00:48:36] the end of the of the their little comic book series of episodes.

[00:48:39] Yeah.

[00:48:41] Like with the Coon and.

[00:48:43] I mean, in friends.

[00:48:45] Yeah. Yes, it was the was the Cthulhu one. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah.

[00:48:51] Yeah, that's the wow.

[00:48:55] The song was your ringtone on my phone for a very long time.

[00:48:58] I mean, that's just accurate.

[00:49:04] Yeah.

[00:49:05] Yeah.

[00:49:09] Yeah.

[00:49:10] Off topic, getting off topic.

[00:49:11] Yeah. That's whatever said that.

[00:49:14] It does kind of remind me remind me now of that that episode.

[00:49:18] Yep.

[00:49:21] It is exactly his power set because no one remembers.

[00:49:24] Yeah.

[00:49:27] Yeah.

[00:49:28] So that that's the end of my actual thoughts.

[00:49:32] All right.

[00:49:33] Gamer.

[00:49:36] Okay.

[00:49:38] Let's see.

[00:49:41] So the whole concept of the app tracking how far apart people are in itself has creepy vibes.

[00:49:51] Yeah. And like this is me writing this note at the moment of finding out that that's what

[00:49:56] that means. And I was like, I don't know if this story will capitalize on that on the whole

[00:50:00] distance thing, but I hoped it did. Unfortunately, it did not.

[00:50:04] Unfortunately, that was not the creepiness.

[00:50:06] No, because like a creepier way that this could have handled been handled if

[00:50:11] apps actually went down to small increments of distance, which they don't.

[00:50:18] As far as we know.

[00:50:19] Yeah, as far as we know is but like that would be a good way to use like the location

[00:50:24] while there is like called them there's no his name at the point.

[00:50:28] Well, I guess like talking to someone

[00:50:30] Um, because like it could be, it would be a good way to show near being stocked,

[00:50:36] like literally having like a GPS location of the dude who's trying to kill you.

[00:50:41] Like as you're hiding in a closet and you can like track him like a freaking

[00:50:44] aliens motion tracker, basically.

[00:50:47] Yeah, like if this was if this turned out to be more like happy death day where like

[00:50:50] the victim knows that they're dying, they're getting killed.

[00:50:53] And they realize, wait, I have this app that like this dating app,

[00:50:57] and I know, I know who the killer is.

[00:50:58] So I can just try to avoid them.

[00:51:00] Oh God, they're trailing me.

[00:51:02] Yeah, yeah.

[00:51:04] But but no, they're going to defeat because that makes no sense as they shouldn't.

[00:51:12] And we already basically talked about how like the reveal of what happens in

[00:51:17] murdery Groundhog Day situation.

[00:51:19] Yeah.

[00:51:20] Well, like, well, we don't really have a true reason of why aside from just like

[00:51:25] wants to murder, like for reasons he just grief from his parents being killed or something.

[00:51:32] I don't know.

[00:51:33] Yeah, like that.

[00:51:34] Yeah, like this this this loop around we don't get any context as to what the

[00:51:39] hell's going on and then the story ends.

[00:51:41] So yeah.

[00:51:43] Also, like reading down through the story, this the whole plot of like what's happening

[00:51:48] and like the small amount of exposition drop we got kind of just came out of left town,

[00:51:53] like just out of nowhere, it felt and like given the amount of times that he's killed Sandy,

[00:52:01] it kind of seems silly for him to like drop exposition on him months into doing this.

[00:52:06] Yeah, yeah.

[00:52:08] Like, well, now, how many times has he told him?

[00:52:11] Oh, you don't remember blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:52:13] And then that you think like after like five months is a long five months of doing this

[00:52:19] every night is a little like that.

[00:52:25] Would you not like as a serial killer, would you not be getting bored?

[00:52:29] Or like as somebody who's got maybe maybe because he's just gone insane from like trying

[00:52:34] to like bring trying to figure out if we crack the code of like why Sandy's coming

[00:52:39] back from the from these events and just gone nuts.

[00:52:42] So now he's just like that's the like what is that's the definition of insanity

[00:52:46] when you do the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

[00:52:50] So like maybe he's just gone insane and just like that's he's just he is actually just

[00:52:55] repeating the same the same exposition over and over again.

[00:52:58] He's also in a way trapped in the tie in trapped in the loop.

[00:53:01] I don't know, maybe it just kind of felt like this is murder three maybe.

[00:53:06] Yeah, yeah.

[00:53:07] Not murder.

[00:53:08] How many months?

[00:53:10] It's five months.

[00:53:11] So how many so about 30, 20 days roughly.

[00:53:15] Yeah, 90, 90, 90 kills in.

[00:53:19] Yeah.

[00:53:20] At this point, like he's still giving exposition.

[00:53:23] It seems a little silly.

[00:53:25] If it was backed up to three or four days, it would be more believable

[00:53:28] because at this point he would like knock on the door.

[00:53:31] Sandy would open the door and he just shoot him in the head and leave.

[00:53:34] Like well I didn't even give him like about a week or so like give him a little bit

[00:53:37] not not like five months but like a few maybe a week or so because at that point

[00:53:41] like you have enough time where you like we get the we get the setup of him like

[00:53:45] um like getting used to doing this kind of thing or trying to figure this thing out.

[00:53:50] And then so he's still at that point where it's plausible that like after a week or so

[00:53:55] he's still giving the exposition even though he knows it's not going to matter.

[00:53:59] Yeah, but maybe he's thinking like if I talk to Sandy differently each time

[00:54:05] and maybe I'll actually get some information as to why he can respond

[00:54:10] like what he's done lately you know?

[00:54:12] In the five months this is actually the first time he's actually done the exposition bit.

[00:54:16] Wow.

[00:54:21] Yeah, exactly.

[00:54:22] Also I think it was said earlier that um that you believed basically five months ago

[00:54:27] they started dating and he immediately killed them first go.

[00:54:30] It doesn't sound like that's how it is at all though because he said

[00:54:34] like five months ago my family died and on that day I didn't even kiss you

[00:54:39] which makes it sound like he's come back multiple he's known him before then.

[00:54:44] Yeah, but then well it doesn't yeah so has he been has he actually been killing him

[00:54:47] prior to that like and him forget or is he just forgetting like the night

[00:54:52] the night's thing before like is it actually just yeah sorry.

[00:54:56] Yeah I think he's been killing them even longer than five

[00:54:58] five months because just after the five months he was just sad that day

[00:55:01] so he didn't kiss him on that murder day.

[00:55:04] So then here's a question also yeah so like

[00:55:07] is it actually have nothing to do with the DVD it's actually all that like like again

[00:55:13] Ike's just a serial killer and he's found his perfect victim

[00:55:18] and they've actually been doing this for years pretty much

[00:55:22] and it's just like in the last five months he lost his uh his parents maybe he's okay so

[00:55:28] maybe it's been going on prior to the parents dying and when the parents died

[00:55:34] because that's how that's how Ike knew like or Ike knew about like the whole like

[00:55:43] Sandy not remembering his own death or what have you and some of that so he he's been

[00:55:49] experimenting on like that stuff with Ike or with Sandy the last like five months

[00:55:54] to see if he can tap into that to bring his parents back.

[00:55:59] Yeah but previously it was just for fun for shits and giggles and for fun because he's

[00:56:03] psychotic killer.

[00:56:06] Possibly yeah well definitely but yes well that's probably the reason is what I meant.

[00:56:12] Yeah and again this is what happens when like we don't get enough a lot of context it leaves

[00:56:17] us room to just like think of all these weird little these like like ask the questions

[00:56:22] ourselves try to figure try to figure things out ourselves.

[00:56:27] For sure yeah so actually my last note here

[00:56:32] so Sandy gets killed like every day wakes up the next morning and does not remember what happened.

[00:56:39] Okay but the story's written in first person so like immersion wise it's it it's weird

[00:56:49] because like because how would Sandy remember any of this to put it on the internet?

[00:56:56] So I think this is a case where it's not actually an immersion thing

[00:56:59] but it's a it's a it's the person the person who wrote it like Serena writes wrote this I think

[00:57:05] this is my this is my guess they wrote it in this style so that we'd get that kind of zinger

[00:57:09] at the end where like like Sandy's going through all this stuff at that night and then

[00:57:14] when he dies he comes back and we get his first person perspective of not remembering any of it.

[00:57:21] But if you do it in a third person narrator narrator rather it kind of makes more sense.

[00:57:28] Me I guess. That being said how would a like third person narrator why is he narrator narrator um

[00:57:36] like pro shit on the internet like that doesn't make sense either so yeah.

[00:57:40] I think at this point like you have to kind of just scrap the idea of this like why is

[00:57:42] this getting online it's like it's online because it's a story like it's just it's not actually

[00:57:47] an in terms of that aspect of the immersion that that doesn't matter. Yeah yeah fair yeah

[00:57:55] to be like a real world oh I believe this is actually happening in our world situation.

[00:58:00] Yeah yeah this is more of like one of those like films that if you're to take into like

[00:58:04] a film context this is more of like a film that is just constantly like following one

[00:58:09] character throughout his entire like throughout the entirety of the movie rather than being

[00:58:14] a found footage like it's still it's it's a film that's focusing on one character

[00:58:19] and all their stuff but it's not like they don't actually have a camera and it's like

[00:58:24] through their through the cameras like lens and stuff through like the through his like he

[00:58:29] doesn't actively have the camera in his hand he's it's the camera is just like basically on

[00:58:33] his shoulder watching him. Yeah pretty much yeah but yeah that's basically the longest

[00:58:39] order of what I have to say about it. Okay then I suppose we'll move on to final thoughts.

[00:58:45] So like I've said before I liked it um the twist is weird and and made me go what the

[00:58:52] fuck and and like the looping reveal is very outer limits or like twilight zone sort of like

[00:59:00] sort of like episode plot um and for me that's in a good way. That said though I'm not sure if

[00:59:08] I want the circumstances explained or not like for me this this kind of feels like oh like

[00:59:15] on us on the surface if you're just reading this not looking too deep into it I think

[00:59:20] it would work because it gets that kind of weird outer limits twilight zone kind of vibe

[00:59:25] but the more you read into it the more I want like a longer a longer version of this story

[00:59:32] um with with a few more loops or a few more like cycles and and maybe like this is the

[00:59:38] first loop from from uh Sandy's point of view but then the next couple are from

[00:59:43] Ike's point of view as we get more information about his reasoning or his spiral to madness

[00:59:50] for doing this kind of stuff like get give us like give us a little bit more background about

[00:59:53] what's going on yeah um but like part of me also just worries about like that ruining the

[01:00:00] mystique of the ending and stuff of that so it's like like would that would too much

[01:00:04] like exposition or or explanation of the situation ruin what I liked about the like the surface

[01:00:10] reading of it so yeah that's why I was attentive recommend a recommendation I'd honestly

[01:00:17] I might push mine down to a partial recommendation because if you want to just

[01:00:22] read the story from the surface level I think I think you'll enjoy it but if you want to read

[01:00:27] if you if you read more into the story you want more and I think this story would actually merit

[01:00:34] having a longer version of it that gives us another cycle but from Ike's point of view to

[01:00:39] explain why this is all happening or like come up with a proper or give it give us some more

[01:00:46] background on the situation because it starts to explain it but it doesn't finish yeah well I

[01:00:51] would rather it not explain anything or explain it properly you know yeah it kind of yeah yeah

[01:00:58] it kind of feels like um a one-sided phone call conversation yeah we're only getting the

[01:01:02] one side where we don't have the other side so we're and like that can be horrifying if you

[01:01:07] if you do anything like on what that call is like that could be like terrible and tragic and

[01:01:13] terrifying if you only get the one side of the call but um and if you get both sides it could be

[01:01:19] even worse or it might not be might not be better um so yeah I think I'm going to push

[01:01:26] it to mine to like a partial recommendation um based on just like surface level reading

[01:01:33] you might enjoy it um deeper read deeper reading into the actual like work the the idea

[01:01:39] and word that's going on here there's a lot of questions and I think it would merit more

[01:01:44] more uh more elaboration so Mikey he stands for evil um well let's see here uh I didn't like

[01:01:57] the whole 90 feet away portion of it because apps don't work that way

[01:02:05] uh we know again I gotta we gotta yeah we gotta keep stating that like

[01:02:09] we don't use Grindr we don't know anything about it so

[01:02:14] I mean it would be it would be weird if it was but like maybe that is how they work I don't know

[01:02:19] yeah yeah uh and then uh I when I initially envisioned the space balls thing happening

[01:02:29] with the magic DVD

[01:02:34] I thought that was hilarious but once this started and we got the whole tasing aspect of it

[01:02:46] um then for me it destroyed the story even more for me because

[01:02:52] because Sandy keeps talking even though they've been tased uh like if you've seen

[01:03:00] something tased they go down and they're not doing anything

[01:03:05] yeah until their brain registers that oh I can do things again um so really designed to

[01:03:14] incapacitate human beings that he said and isn't immortal yeah yeah yeah yeah like again like

[01:03:22] if you're going to captain america yeah or like yeah or yeah any yeah exactly it's like

[01:03:27] tasing captain america nailed it yeah actually yeah or or teasing thor because thor can still

[01:03:35] be tased and he oh yeah he does yeah yeah in ragnarok he gets he has that little like

[01:03:42] device on his on his on the back of his neck is that weird this is complete

[01:03:46] complete magic this is weird that the god of thunder can be tased listen man we're

[01:03:51] covering plotholes in a creepy pasta today we're not covering the plotholes in marvel

[01:03:55] all right

[01:04:00] maybe it's a different kind of electricity or energy I just I just know he gets hit by

[01:04:06] lightning and empowers yeah exactly yeah yeah so I still do not like this story so I'm still

[01:04:18] not going to recommend it okay fair enough also it's on my it's on my uh my google search now

[01:04:24] but I did actually look up how accurate grinder distances are oh no uh grind so this is

[01:04:31] actually from the help uh section of grinder dot com uh grinder collects your location info

[01:04:37] within 100 meters within a 100 meter radius of accuracy you can toggle our or toggle our show

[01:04:45] distance option on or off when show distance is on your relative distance is used to arrange

[01:04:53] the grid based the grid based on distance and display an approximate relative distance between

[01:05:00] you and another member so eight feet no it isn't feet it's it's it's within a hundred apparently

[01:05:05] it's within a hundred meter radius of accuracy you say a hundred or a thousand a hundred yeah

[01:05:11] gotta get your ears checked man yeah I do also I don't know the conversions so I had to do

[01:05:17] that real quick while I quite it's like 330 feet yeah so yeah it's it's not 90 feet that's

[01:05:26] still relatively close oh yeah exactly yeah but yeah it's not 90 yeah but uh I feel like

[01:05:35] the the fact that it's 90 should be that should be the the first red flag

[01:05:43] oh yeah that's the end he has where it's like wait how is this 90 it never goes that low

[01:05:49] yeah and then to be fair he does have that reaction no but he he doesn't question it as

[01:05:56] being weird as like being impossible on the app okay this guy just happens to be this close to me

[01:06:03] cool that's normal well no he's yeah that's why he like he like kind of like nervously like

[01:06:08] laughs it off in the reply it's like hey uh why are you so close

[01:06:13] hey it's like holding his like collar a bit yeah yeah he definitely does not like question

[01:06:18] the app's aspect of it yeah but um yeah sorry I just I like we've been talking about it and

[01:06:26] like constantly saying it's like we don't know we have no way of knowing because we don't yeah

[01:06:32] yeah that's actually what problem is like we have no way of knowing it's like I mean I

[01:06:36] could just google like what the distances are for grinders no we have to be incompetent at

[01:06:41] our jobs here yes clearly we are professionally unprofessional yeah it's on brand for us

[01:06:47] at least for me I mean all of us really yeah to a big extent but uh actually yeah so

[01:06:55] transitioning over to gamer your recommendation or right that was your final thoughts your final

[01:07:02] thoughts um so sadly like my head cannon of the location-based horror was like locked in as

[01:07:11] soon as I understood what the title meant so I foolishly went well of course that this would

[01:07:15] happen why wouldn't they so I kind of like set myself up for failure because I was expecting

[01:07:21] the whole like like the dude shows up and then tries to attack sandy and sandy runs away and

[01:07:27] hides and then like you can see the location and he's like oh he's over there I gotta go

[01:07:31] over here run away you know how that kind of thing didn't happen but that didn't happen um

[01:07:37] so when I got to the reveal of like the weird like resetting and like magic

[01:07:43] he immortal stuff happening I just wasn't into it um yeah and there's there isn't much

[01:07:50] creepiness to it either honestly like partly due to like there being no real immersion for

[01:07:56] me which is what makes or breaks most stories when I read them is like can I get into them

[01:08:02] and I just couldn't with this one partially because I wanted to be one thing and it was

[01:08:08] something else but that's my fault but uh yeah it's kind of weird and like the lack of motive

[01:08:13] on the killer kind of hurts it because we have to like think about what his motive potentially is

[01:08:18] and weave this story of trying to resurrect his parents through it even though that wasn't

[01:08:25] said at all yeah so like where I enjoyed that kind of horror they didn't do anything for you

[01:08:32] no because it was like it was it was going all over the place and none of those places were

[01:08:38] places I wanted to be whereas the way that it was for my read personally yeah so all for

[01:08:46] unfortunately not recommend it but the idea of a location based like slasher tracking you down

[01:08:54] is kind of neat oh I don't know how you would do that in a realistic situation because apps

[01:08:59] don't go that low I have a really fun idea that just came from that from what you just proposed

[01:09:04] there so it's a virus that somebody puts like like like a cyber hacker kind of or like virus

[01:09:09] that somebody like can infect um like maybe they got they found a way to get into like

[01:09:16] uh dating apps um like data like upgrade updates and stuff with that and like plant this virus

[01:09:23] or made it look like a like a like an update but it's actually it subsumes the previous version of

[01:09:30] the of the app and turns it into this kind of like very stalker centric app so like it and

[01:09:36] I even have a title for the story right now stalker with an r with no e at the end oh shit

[01:09:45] yeah it's a binder or tinder it becomes stalker stock r yeah stock r it's like oh god

[01:09:51] that would be so good for like a like that'd also be really good for like a horror movie like

[01:09:55] where like it's just like their their dating app whether it be tinder or grind or any of those

[01:10:00] ones that just like it's like it the the app changes because of some kind of an update

[01:10:06] and it turns into the stalker which basically like it it takes their database and gives it to

[01:10:11] a bunch of creepy like people or even like or just a bunch of creepy people or groups

[01:10:17] and so they just start stalking people in this in the in the scenario in the in the story or

[01:10:23] or um or scenario yeah that'd be a problem that was so creepy and so cool if it was that

[01:10:30] situation not cool in like the in the creepy fiction way not like of course that would not

[01:10:35] be cool in real life no in terms of like a story that would be like really interesting for

[01:10:41] to go with that route so yeah but for example this one does not go that way no yeah so i guess um

[01:10:50] end of the day two non-recommendations and one mostly positive partial recommendation just

[01:10:59] depends on how you read the story really so i use my eyes yeah yeah i mean like

[01:11:07] you know what i mean yeah i know yeah uh so that'll that'll do it for this week's episode

[01:11:14] if you like what you heard or if you didn't leave a comment section below this gets posted

[01:11:18] we're all on twitter mikey is at the east ends for evil the gamer niel is at the gamer niel

[01:11:22] but that that'd be at the end because his name is very long yeah don't have a choice

[01:11:26] at this point now and i'm at review cultist i'm also on blue sky as review cultist you can

[01:11:33] also send us emails at al dente rigor mortis at gmail.com that's a l d e n t e r i g a m o r

[01:11:41] t s at gmail.com we're gonna also have suggestions for other creep pastas scps spooky things you

[01:11:47] creep it we'll peep it yeah and if you'd like to help support our show financially you can go

[01:11:52] to patreon select the back if you'd like to support us at we have two dollar and five

[01:11:56] dollar tiers special episodes early access extra content to our patrons that are helping

[01:12:01] support the show thank you immensely you're helping keep those hosting bills at bay as always

[01:12:05] we very much appreciate that and to our listeners and the authors of these stories thank you

[01:12:10] immensely because without your listenership it's like screaming into the void and without your

[01:12:15] authorship without these stories that you you write you post online and you share with us

[01:12:20] directly via an email even um we really wouldn't have much of a show because we don't have

[01:12:25] nothing to talk about like this was a really cool like despite the fact two of us two or

[01:12:30] three of us uh don't recommend the story it still got us talking and got us like thinking

[01:12:34] and stuff like that so yeah for sure like there's concepts that can come from the story

[01:12:38] that are very good just the story itself just didn't resonate with me personally yeah exactly

[01:12:43] and that's that's always going to happen like because we're all different perspectives

[01:12:49] but um yeah no again regardless thank you for for writing these stories posting them online

[01:12:54] and even directly submitting to us um so yeah until next time i have been your host review

[01:13:02] cultist i'm mikey the sensual and i'm the gamer in yellow and this has been al dente rigamortis

[01:13:10] sleep well

[01:13:24] so