ADR - Episode 515: Redman

[00:00:00] Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis. I'm Review Cultist.

[00:00:22] I'm Mikey, the East End Favour.

[00:00:24] And I'm the Gamer in Yellow.

[00:00:26] And we're here to discuss those internet stories, most creepy and most pasta and be critically

[00:00:30] silly doing it.

[00:00:31] And tonight we have Redmond.

[00:00:36] Not to be confused with another Redman story that we did years back involving Irish

[00:00:42] fairy folklore creature.

[00:00:44] It was during a same Patrick's episode we did that had like we covered like three like

[00:00:50] micropostas or like really small I really short creepostas that involved like Irish folklore

[00:00:55] or Irish things.

[00:00:59] And also not to be confused I think with a Redman villain or monster from a like creepypasta

[00:01:06] Minecraft thing on YouTube.

[00:01:09] I think these the these two things are different.

[00:01:14] Now go more into that with once we get into this.

[00:01:18] So Redman I was I was given this I was given this creep pasta or a link to this creep

[00:01:25] pasta on the on a neocities site by Matt from Drunken the Ugly back in the fall.

[00:01:32] And man he's just really like my like go to for like weird creepy like obscure internet

[00:01:39] horror or like niche internet horror.

[00:01:42] Or when he's a dealer.

[00:01:44] Yeah exactly he's my dealer for like the really obscure or like the really niche like and

[00:01:50] maybe even like more prevalent because I think this came out like the this stuff started

[00:01:54] pop this Redmond story and some of the stuff around it kind of popped up around the fall

[00:01:59] of last year so like only like only about five five months ago.

[00:02:06] And so Redman the creepypasta on a neocities.org website is by Marcy SSS on YouTube I think

[00:02:19] and I think because yeah I went down a rabbit hole.

[00:02:27] So as far as I can tell this popped up on a GMOD slash Minecraft stream by Marcy SS on

[00:02:35] their YouTube channel where they also released an animation and original song known as Redman's

[00:02:43] lament which with this link popping up of redman.neo cities.org like this was popping up in

[00:02:55] their inner chat during the stream especially like near the end of the stream.

[00:03:01] This all happened in September of 2023 is when this all these kind of these videos and

[00:03:06] these the stream and the story seem to have popped up.

[00:03:09] I even went back into the way back machine to see when the earliest instance of redman.neo

[00:03:17] cities.org went like came from and it seems to have happened in September of 2023.

[00:03:25] So and furthermore like the reason why I believe Marcy SSS is the one that also created the

[00:03:33] creepypasta is because a lot of the visuals from her from their music video and music like

[00:03:41] that music video animation they did of Redman's lament are used as assets and material in the Redman's

[00:03:49] neo city site like the that if for anybody who goes to the website and to my hosts the all the

[00:03:58] the red visuals are like the red creepy like looks like almost like a fence or like a kind of a

[00:04:04] like it's a railing yeah railing yeah that's what I'm trying a railing that's actually in

[00:04:09] like directly pulled from from the video as well.

[00:04:13] Mm-hmm. This all also seems to be a I believe it could be a collab with May and Hazel from

[00:04:20] May.vods and HH Hazel on YouTube respectively because May also did a reading of this story linking

[00:04:31] it to Marcy SS's GMOD Minecraft stream and such. And I think they know each other like me

[00:04:42] and Matt were kind of going over back and forth with it about it like trying to do one this.

[00:04:47] Lots in like and what he's a lot of us. They live like a streetway from each other.

[00:04:53] No, no, no, no, no because well these these two and

[00:05:01] and whatnot have been kind of the like me and me and Matt have talked about them over the last

[00:05:05] couple of months too because they did they did a very interesting creepypasta retrospect

[00:05:11] sort of like video and like a behind-the-scenes video of that video. That was really interesting

[00:05:18] and it shows that they have a really they're really interested in like creepypasta and like

[00:05:23] playing on the tropes and stuff like that in creepypasta so it makes me believe that they are

[00:05:29] are kind of tied to this as well. So I encourage I'm gonna leave some I'm gonna leave a bunch

[00:05:34] there's gonna be a bunch of links in the description tonight

[00:05:38] but I encourage you to check out because these girls have some really cool like material

[00:05:45] so yeah. Now for the purposes of this episode we're just covering the the story that we found on

[00:05:51] the redman.neo cities.org site. I just ended up like I said I just ended up diving down a rabbit hole

[00:05:58] personally searching for proper credit to the story with with Matt's help and just with all that

[00:06:09] said the G-Watstream also does have some interesting connections to the story found on the Neo City site

[00:06:16] as it was where the links first are popping up in their in their chat and stuff like I said earlier

[00:06:21] though it's it's also more of a like a chill and like even personal let's play experience. It does

[00:06:27] sort of capture the vibe of the online friends group mentioned in the story that we're going to be

[00:06:33] covering and like I said I'll be leaving links to the to the to the videos in the description below

[00:06:41] with all that said if we missed anything and the original creators like like listen to this and hear

[00:06:48] and if we get anything wrong as always please let us know we're we're not perfect we're not

[00:06:55] professionals we just like we're just wrong yeah exactly we're used to be wrong but yes let's

[00:07:03] let us dive into redman.neo cities.org story with our initial recommendations I'm gonna recommend it

[00:07:11] I am not going to recommend it. I always the other one. You're gonna perfectly share that what yeah

[00:07:27] yeah um well let's uh let's find out why we have these these very dynamic recommendations exactly

[00:07:35] yeah starting with the rundown I guess uh featuring Nair I'm not gonna do the rock thing

[00:07:43] but it's it's Nair because I don't believe we ever get a name to the person who

[00:07:47] wrote up the the redman neo city site. New unless it is Marseys but um

[00:07:54] I'm just gonna go in the actual text exactly and and I don't think it it's supposed to be

[00:08:00] Marseys because um it kept popping up as almost like bots and stuff on their chat so um I don't

[00:08:07] believe it uh I don't think it's supposed to be that character that they played in that stream so

[00:08:13] um so on a neo city site the story dwells and tells the story from Nair's perspective explaining

[00:08:22] and also trying to rationalize the following events of their encounter with the redman a creature

[00:08:29] entity that first popped up in a gmod stream they and their online friends were playing uh and

[00:08:36] and that crashed the game uh with some spooky sounds and like free like as soon as they looked at

[00:08:42] the create at the character um they their computers all froze and gave them a good scare they all had

[00:08:47] to like shut down their um shut down the games and yeah they were just like freaked out by the

[00:08:53] experience from there they started noticing the redman elsewhere in youtube title cards uh videos

[00:09:00] and video games they played and at first it seemed rather innocuous uh Nair even found that other

[00:09:08] people were starting to notice this entity and then people started disappearing including Nair's

[00:09:14] crush slash love interest crystal her their their their their online friend um or one of their

[00:09:21] online friends that they appeared to have a crush on uh Nair and their friends all live far away

[00:09:28] from each other being online friends and all and so they they couldn't they could only really connect

[00:09:34] through digital means and it seemed that the redman had taken crystal um like we even get like some

[00:09:41] like a note hurt like her her status uh notification like like a like a screenshot of it is very clearly

[00:09:48] um she's been taken by some creature or something because it's like infected with like the red man's

[00:09:53] like um like style or or whatnot um now as nair was posting this in a dour and press state um they

[00:10:04] they start to hear crystal through their headphones singing hymns and and feel the red glow of her

[00:10:10] embrace on the screen and they they uh wants to be they want to be together again and the story ends

[00:10:17] with nair seemingly united with crystal and the red man forever fin happy ending

[00:10:24] yeah yay

[00:10:30] uh yeah so that that was basically the the redman story on the neo city site um

[00:10:36] uh basically something a video game could thing happens whether whether streaming game

[00:10:41] and they slowly descend into a uh into being stalked by the entity until it starts taking them

[00:10:48] so um but with that I suppose we should move on to everyone tolerance of grandmenguitions

[00:10:56] at this point uh i've got a kind of overarching thing about this so let me start with this quote here

[00:11:03] uh i made this site to denote my recent experience with a phenomena that is difficult to describe

[00:11:14] you will understand once you read more this site does not exist for the purposes of entertainment

[00:11:25] okay so the lack of capitalization a side which this entire story has no capitalization

[00:11:33] um seriously i don't think there's a single sentence that starts with capitalization

[00:11:38] which there is not but there is a single capital capitalized word in here

[00:11:44] yes there is one of them is yeah now now now that's it i'm going to play the it's the way the character types

[00:11:54] uh trope from our from our own repertoire because i mean it sort of helps the immersion

[00:12:02] of these types of blog neo-city style like entries and the individual is posting on them

[00:12:09] so like i kind of want to give it a pass for that

[00:12:14] uh and that aside like the capitalization stuff aside the story does have these weird zalgo-esque symbols

[00:12:22] when using apostrophes throughout the story i believe it's mostly apostrophes that that occurs in

[00:12:29] um one of them might have been a semi-colon yeah there's a couple that weren't just uh like

[00:12:35] apostrophes or semi-colons but like it was uh yeah there's these weird like like weird uh

[00:12:42] like symbols that are used they're not weird and one of them is a lowercase A with an accent

[00:12:47] above the little tree well actually you're right yeah it does look it looks like we're just like

[00:12:54] a jumble of regular words but here's the thing um that might have to do with uh with the format

[00:13:00] of the website because originally it was supposed to be zalgo font which is a type of font that is

[00:13:07] used because of the zalgo meme of like basically like when zalgo infects your computer like leaves this

[00:13:12] weird creepy jumble of like memetic symbols and stuff like that um and so i think it might just

[00:13:20] been like a situation of like um either the browser didn't have the zalgo zalgo font or maybe this

[00:13:27] is just like a weird like yeah i think it's just like they when they uh like earlier instances of

[00:13:33] the story had the zalgo font but then like because of an update or something of that it like

[00:13:37] doesn't have these algophont or something now um now there is a jumble of the zalgo

[00:13:43] they're not like uncommon well like letters and stuff because one's just an accent today the other

[00:13:48] one is just the symbol for the euro yeah yeah a little tiny one is actually trademark yeah it's

[00:13:54] yeah the tm mark it's really hard to see i only notice what notice that when i copied it into my notes

[00:14:00] i'm also seeing um on on one it's like a vertical like bracket or like like dash dash um yeah

[00:14:08] it's like a vertical line with the space in the middle yeah i believe these were originally

[00:14:12] supposed to be like zalgo symbols um because uh an update again when i was i did some again

[00:14:18] i filled out a rabbit hole on the story so i was like when i was trying to find stuff for this

[00:14:22] about the site about the story um i came upon a reddit art a thread on reddit art codes so like basically

[00:14:32] the the the the the reddit channel for um decoding things asking about the text symbols in

[00:14:41] this uh neo city site and uh it was real that it was zalgo font and the uh the last

[00:14:48] uh bit of text that's like all just a jumble of that of that text is supposed to read i love you

[00:14:54] it's incredible to finally meet you uh which i guess is sort of supposed to be um uh crystal or

[00:15:01] redmond like red red crystal i guess okay um whatever whatever that empty that has just taken

[00:15:09] there uh now um so uh again i'll leave a description to that thread because it's it's kind of

[00:15:17] funny that like i let somebody on on a decrypting thread uh left a message like i can say

[00:15:23] maybe know what this is like recognize this so that's cute yeah um but that's honestly all i have for

[00:15:33] for grammar and position um there is there's one typo i found uh it's at the very end of the story

[00:15:39] actually uh and it's um depth site our lap our lapsing communication this whole mess has made me

[00:15:48] feel closer to her than ever so it's supposed to be despite our laps in communication

[00:15:55] despite me reading over this trying to find grammar issues i completely missed it

[00:16:00] it's fun i honestly it wasn't my grammar it was it originally uh because i was i was taking my notes

[00:16:06] i was like that's wrong there's a squiggly why isn't squiggly line under despite oh that says

[00:16:11] depth site yeah did i copy that down wrong and then i went to the actual website and i was like oh no

[00:16:16] that says depth site okay yeah so i typo needs to and the only reason i found it was because i was

[00:16:21] putting the like quotes into my um into my notes so yeah that's that's basically the end of my

[00:16:29] grammar in position um so mikey these sounds horrible take it away okay um well i'm

[00:16:40] in issue with the whole thing maybe just because of the no capitalization uh but uh

[00:16:49] you're not willing to give it a pass yeah um but the um annoying thing uh for me was acronyms

[00:17:03] so like we are obviously gamers so we're in the notes we know what jimad is yeah

[00:17:09] but somebody who's not a gamer reading this would be like what the heck is jimad and

[00:17:15] find out that it's gary's mod yeah um which how hard is it to spawn gary's mod you know what i

[00:17:22] i but like here's the thing that all that i i'd be with you on this if it wasn't that like

[00:17:27] if it didn't help with the immersion of this like this this person who's writing this

[00:17:32] isn't talking to somebody outside of the gamer circle really they they they

[00:17:37] they think that they know when the plays gary's mod calls it gary's mod it's yeah yeah exactly

[00:17:47] it's it's actually not make as much sense if he was fully typed out like yes i understand what you're

[00:17:53] saying yeah for sure but for immersion purposes now yeah exactly and and similarly like uh we all

[00:18:00] watch like there's another one here like we all watch mlp together we have like we have a very

[00:18:06] loaded i i know just from like having a niece and stuff like that that mlp is my little pony

[00:18:11] and from being a brony yeah hold it up because of a brony

[00:18:16] no of course not but yeah like but yeah i can also like for a second it was like mlp oh my little

[00:18:23] pony okay yeah but that's just you like i had to look up that acronym there so

[00:18:31] but isn't that like part of the fun well it takes down the immersion and then

[00:18:38] i really got them trying to read because the immersion isn't like that part the immersion is like

[00:18:44] getting a glimpse into this like kind of out if you're not in the know it's an out of context kind

[00:18:48] of thing where you're just like what is what is this what is this cryptic like documents that i'm

[00:18:54] reading now about my little pony about mlp what does that stand for what is this jimad

[00:19:05] it was if it was any other story like that wasn't like format the way this one is i would agree with you

[00:19:10] but because of the story the way it is like it's this isn't this is more of an immersive experience

[00:19:16] than uh than a proper like laid out story especially if it was like a um in like an omnipresent

[00:19:22] narrator yeah because he wouldn't he slash she slash whatever the hell the narrator is wouldn't

[00:19:29] necessarily be using gamer speak they would be potentially speaking more layman's terms for

[00:19:35] everyone to understand yeah but this person is clearly we're getting like the perspective of one

[00:19:39] person throughout this entire story but it's hidden in this first person yeah bug some people

[00:19:45] and not by others yeah yeah all right and then

[00:19:55] i have a conjunction junction i was dreading this oh god all right um and next stop

[00:20:06] conjunction junction so it all started during a typical two-am gmod session

[00:20:16] but then i saw him again it started slowly it became sort of a running gig among friends

[00:20:23] that we were being hunted by the red man but my friends didn't seem to think so

[00:20:32] so it almost feels validating to see these claims corroborated

[00:20:40] we who witnessed the red man have been brought together online and now we've got each other's backs

[00:20:51] it's eight o'clock now and i haven't heard back from her

[00:20:54] and i want to listen then wow that was the most succinct like it kind of follows along the story

[00:21:05] it's just like it like almost every like every other paragraph you took you were able to find something

[00:21:10] from it holy crap so succinct yeah Jesus Christ and my mind was it's probably the shortest I've ever

[00:21:21] written it's like barely like yeah it's barely two paragraphs damn yeah how much silliness

[00:21:32] uploaded on that one but yeah that happens sometimes when Mikey grabs all the sentences throughout

[00:21:37] the story that start words that they probably shouldn't like its ends or buttons because there's

[00:21:41] always better word well worse use except when it's the way the character talks or types

[00:21:51] yeah our grab our position this week is a little suspect a little sus as the kids say these days

[00:22:04] so we should never should you down an airlock yeah i'm sorry i've never felt like just there's a

[00:22:10] quick tangent i've never felt older but when my like eight-year-old cousin and nine-year-old niece

[00:22:16] have are talking saying things like that so sus or that's super cringe

[00:22:24] and it just like like and like starts talking like things i've heard on like youtube like let's

[00:22:28] play some stuff i was like oh my god i'm just like turning to ash wow but yeah so yeah i guess

[00:22:37] uh gamer yeah i guess a came where you got do you have a grammar nilo a little bit left i don't know

[00:22:43] um there's the the one where there was a capital used in the in the story randomly

[00:22:50] throughout it in the middle um we just the game and screaming frenzy crystal shared actually

[00:22:57] capitalized sobbing i mean yeah that's the first that you started capital actually saw

[00:23:04] see for me that that actually kind of sounds like it like they're doing that for like emphasis

[00:23:08] like just like yes actually started crying would it be all caps then uh you know you're right it

[00:23:14] usually that's what it is but i mean i i i i i i i i don't know when there's no caps in the whole

[00:23:18] story all caps reverts to single caps yeah but sure okay it's the way the character types and then

[00:23:27] if the whole thing was written in all caps then you would do both yeah and probably with

[00:23:37] underline and like maybe italics no italics red red red so our next one um yeah

[00:23:47] when i got the email for this you're like here's the breadman story i'm like okay cool

[00:23:53] and i booted up and it says sightings of a serious man and like is this the right story

[00:24:00] right yeah because have you seen this man like that when we did a well back right

[00:24:03] yeah and then right underneath it there's a sub title that says have you seen him oh no

[00:24:09] so there's the red man story which has a sub title of sightings of a serious man which has a

[00:24:14] sub subtitle of did you see him yeah and yet it is not the the man in the dreams instead of

[00:24:22] that yeah no so it's this is just the red man creepy fossil yes though again um so

[00:24:29] i wouldn't put it i'm this probably might go into actual thoughts a little bit but like so

[00:24:34] I know that the the creators of like that that are kind of linked to this do like to

[00:24:40] pay nods or like pay pay homage and nods to like other to older creep bosses like not just through

[00:24:46] tropes but also like almost basically like make like uh almost like pay tribute or even like makes

[00:24:51] some satirization of other characters so i wonder if like they uh when whenever made either

[00:24:57] marcy or may or or hazel or whoever made the story when they wrote this story i wonder if they drew

[00:25:03] inspiration from the have you seen this man uh creep pasta as well because there's a

[00:25:08] because they do a lot of sub title yeah exactly like for that kind of like idea because this

[00:25:12] this kind of seems to borrow like tropes from like a bunch of various old creepypastas um and kind

[00:25:18] of makes its own thing in the process but then you see i like sightings of a mysterious man and

[00:25:23] have you seen him like have you seen this man is like the biggest like like like it's an it's

[00:25:29] creep pasta bordering onto an urban legend yes but regardless this whole point is in regards to

[00:25:37] when you open up the story it doesn't say right man on the title whatsoever which is i found a odd

[00:25:44] yeah it's just the the the domain name is redman dot neo-signan yes um this one i'm sure mickey brought

[00:25:52] this up in his uh conjunction junction um but there's a sentence that goes like this so

[00:26:01] that's it that was the first sentence of my conjunction junction oh was it that was the very first

[00:26:09] one yeah it wasn't even a pause i guess i guess i guess if either that should really be so comma

[00:26:17] the first time i see yeah i guess if you want to go that way but like i'm sure that's that was again

[00:26:22] again like i the our grammar position is really kind of a farce today because it's like it really is

[00:26:27] it's it's really just like that we get it this is it's the way the character types

[00:26:33] even if some of us don't like it more than others but also like okay in this headspace of this character

[00:26:40] yeah they started writing this after being stalked and people being taken and her friend being like

[00:26:51] her status all fucked up and weird right so i guess that's why there's like no capitalization none

[00:26:59] of that shit like it doesn't matter because they're just like furiously putting this information

[00:27:03] out before they get taken exactly yeah that's okay because they even say like they they've they've been

[00:27:08] like ups it like it's sunrise but and they're still up in on the internet like they've basically been

[00:27:13] up all night so like they're manically like writing this down also i wonder if like like kind of going

[00:27:17] back to what i said was saying about the zalgo like font like uh texts that's where all the

[00:27:22] apostories are i wonder if that's like the first inclination of the infection and then like it

[00:27:26] because and it gets worse and worse at the very end like whereas like there's just that jumble of

[00:27:30] words as as they are finally taken by the red man wrong i have with that in the i think i have

[00:27:37] something like this in my nose but whatever yeah it's not it's it's not a slow build no it's it's

[00:27:43] really it's it's it's basically like the entire story it's just every apostrophe and like semi

[00:27:50] colon is is that weird zalgo thing and at the very end we just get a like barf of of the text yeah

[00:27:58] i feel like it should like slowly get like have 90% of the story be relatively clean to read but then

[00:28:05] the last couple of paragraphs it gets exponentially worse and worse yeah

[00:28:16] okay that's about all i open room on this though okay and all of this is big asterisk because

[00:28:23] it's that they wrote it down in character in worry but they managed to like buy a website

[00:28:31] or do you want i don't think i think i think this is probably a free one yeah okay yeah is it take a

[00:28:37] long time to set up a website because i don't know if i just wanted to do that well i mean i'm

[00:28:43] wondering like well maybe like they've spent like a few hours like setting this up and then like

[00:28:46] now they're now they're dating the typing this and it's all manic and so because it's been like

[00:28:49] like like again sun rising and stuff with that right so yeah and there were going to make websites

[00:28:54] so it's like permanently online yeah also by the end it's like where could be deleted yeah also

[00:29:00] who's to say that like he like the person wrote this up and then got taken by the red man and

[00:29:06] and uh and whatnot and then the red man just like and enter i just finished it for them

[00:29:12] he wants to let you know exactly yeah cuz he wants he wants me he's spreading is a mimetic virus kind

[00:29:17] of thing yeah um and i kind of go into that with my my actual thoughts so okay um but yeah um

[00:29:26] yeah so yeah onto actual thoughts um not exactly gonna cover that yet but i'm gonna get there um

[00:29:32] so i'm gonna start with this quote here the following reports are plainly factual and accurate to

[00:29:37] the best of my ability i'm sure there's a logical explanation for all of this but i need more eyes

[00:29:44] to parse it uh good old creepy foster trope or really early online horror trope really um always

[00:29:53] stay in character this is a real thing i'm trying to look in get to the bottom of i swear

[00:30:00] just classic classic classic trope right from the get go and and really the story just has

[00:30:07] those like has these classic creepy foster tropes that like somebody who's read a lot of creepy

[00:30:12] postas like i can really appreciate um so move on to the next thing i have here

[00:30:22] to say that we were the say that we freaked out would be an understatement we each shut the game

[00:30:27] in a screaming frenzy crystal was crystal started actually sobbing and our ensuing argument sought

[00:30:34] to determine which one of us spawned in a meat ghost from the workshop did we overreact listen

[00:30:41] we all watch mlp together we collectively share a very low horror tolerance so i think we took it

[00:30:49] about as well as one would expect us to so i really like how they explain the overreaction

[00:30:57] like it's not just an outlandish like no reason reaction that we like and like we never

[00:31:03] get addresses like like it's a little bit self-aware but like in a way that like a person's like

[00:31:07] they're trying to explain why they reacted the way they did like after the fact and uh move on

[00:31:13] to the next thing i have the next morning my friend group had pretty much forgotten about the whole

[00:31:19] thing i on the other hand was still curious and so i read this part i was like it might have been

[00:31:25] really cool if this had been a thing where like the others in his group or the others in their group

[00:31:34] didn't recall the previous night's events or the red man at all like following more like kind of

[00:31:41] like creepypasta tropes were like um the characters are getting like supernatural gas lit

[00:31:46] or like meant or psychologically gas lit about like the events

[00:31:50] even though and or like and it like it still it keeps happening and they keep forgetting

[00:31:56] yeah i think that might have been a cool like thing there

[00:32:01] uh although did they stream their uh their gameplay of that happening like in lore

[00:32:09] yeah they would have been streaming it so like it's very possible that would have been a good

[00:32:12] opportunity to like have the character go back and look at the stream and like maybe

[00:32:17] it didn't happen on the stream but they remember it so like or like at first they

[00:32:22] they did they denied it's like no that what are you talking about that what like we just had a good

[00:32:27] we had a good stream and then we like we close off from the nice like no dude like we all like stopped

[00:32:31] and like don't you remember it's like no and then they pull up the stream and it actually shows

[00:32:35] that the red man and some of that and like the weird like glitch right before it like busy

[00:32:38] stutters out like and like stops the uh the feed and the characters the other characters are just like

[00:32:43] super quiet like it's like hello guys guys and you just hear like just some weird like

[00:32:51] like screaming from their headsets as they're like again like actually got them to taste

[00:32:58] or or just like has them like has their minds like their mind just like for some reason i've been

[00:33:04] like lamered or like shielded or like uh like i'm just like repressed to the memories

[00:33:11] yeah i can like show this stream and like the creepy stuff happens and then like

[00:33:16] they're like what's happening i understand why are you freaking out

[00:33:19] yeah like he can uh the narrator could see the the stuff but like their friends can't see any of it

[00:33:24] yeah yeah there's lots of ways it could go yeah what we're talking about we're just seeing an art

[00:33:29] like the video's just been a horribly artifact like something something must have like uh broken the

[00:33:33] file exactly yeah um but yeah i'll move on to the next thing which is the first image we get so

[00:33:42] we get uh we get two links in the story that are red which is kind of confusing just gonna say

[00:33:48] right off the top because the the title for this sightings of a mysterious man and have you

[00:33:53] seen him are a red font and have you seen him is even the same size font so i thought that was

[00:33:59] also a text or a link but it isn't um but yeah in the actual story itself uh it's all white

[00:34:06] texts except for these two instances where there's a red text where uh the first image has a link to

[00:34:12] from i found this and this is red with under with an underlying um with a hyperlink to an image and

[00:34:23] i i looked at the image and like i was like i look at it a couple of times like what am i looking at

[00:34:27] and so it's like i guess yeah well i guess it to me like it's maybe this is some of that uh

[00:34:34] parodolia happening where it's like i guess it's like a red pixelated skull face from like profile

[00:34:44] like from a side shot is the best i could like kind of deserve it and it is it's vaguely creepy

[00:34:49] um and then we get this bit in the story like right like soon after um uh the google images result

[00:34:59] was a far more recent repost in which a reddit user claims probably ironically that it's

[00:35:06] a photo of his good friend i don't know something about the visual quality of this particular image

[00:35:14] and i'm like i'm sorry are they seeing something that we aren't seeing from the image kind of like

[00:35:20] hargaining back to what we just talked about with uh like seeing like or is there good friend

[00:35:25] skeletal dealing with a with being sprayed by a skunk it needs tomato juice like a bedo for them

[00:35:33] but i mean in seriousness though um i yeah the image is kind of interesting um

[00:35:38] it's it's just kind of in that obscurely eerie way i guess where it's like just vague enough

[00:35:44] that it has the possibility to have a spooky undertone to it which to be fair is also very much

[00:35:52] in line with like early internet horror like i mean it's it's a red thing on a black background

[00:35:58] that like default gives it a spooky undertone yeah but like we've we've also like covered stories

[00:36:03] before with like i think it was uh funny mouth and stuff like that where like uh it's a very

[00:36:07] like kind of broken up image or it's like an image made from like from a bunch of it's either made

[00:36:12] from pixels or it's like made from like a bunch of small things that form an image that is vaguely

[00:36:17] vaguely spooky and like again you see that a lot on like in like a early forechan posts of like creepy

[00:36:24] stuff people would like just photoshopper makeup like weird little creepy images and then like

[00:36:29] throw it on there try and spook people online so again very in line with with the kind of preview

[00:36:36] post of the stories is in bokeh um and also a little bit we get um early on with like the

[00:36:48] the the story says something about like uh there's an earlier story about the red man from

[00:36:53] like 2001 and um it's it was just basically for me it just felt like a very classic style forum

[00:37:01] post like or the kind of thing you'd see on like an x-thread on forechan uh creepy pasta where it's

[00:37:06] just like uh uh just using this this um like these creepy creepy image and then like a few little lines

[00:37:15] of like something spooky then like how like the the thing infected their computer or infected

[00:37:20] the floppy drive like they say and it's the kind of creepypastas and kind of like store a little

[00:37:25] little short creepy stories that I was that I was shared to uh by some friends um back in like

[00:37:30] college and stuff so the story kind of like I think the reason why I like this story so much is

[00:37:36] because it kind of feels very familiar to me like it has almost like a homey feel to me like I've

[00:37:42] I remember these kind of stories or remember stumbling upon these are getting linked to these

[00:37:47] um when I was younger uh yeah to be honest I thought this was a lot older than last year

[00:37:53] yeah it's literally like September of toy toy three and it's not really because just like looking

[00:37:58] at the website it's a very old school looking website with like the tile the background and stuff

[00:38:03] yeah like this is the kind of creepypasta that you would have seen on like my space or like like

[00:38:08] in the early days like earlier like those early like creepostas and some of that like it's very evocative

[00:38:14] of early creepypasta but it's it as far as I can tell like based off the wayback machines of that

[00:38:22] the earliest uh instance of it according to the wayback machine was like the same it was September

[00:38:27] 23 when like the when the the GMOD stream came out and like the the the music video that Marcy

[00:38:35] Marcy's made so so it's just made to look really old even though it's fairly new and I

[00:38:41] gotta appreciate the craft like that's that's like to me like that also like I think again it's another

[00:38:46] reason why I kind of think I like it so much is because it's it's new but it's trying to be it's

[00:38:51] sort of like when somebody when a filmmaker makes a horror movie based like that evokes like the 80s

[00:38:57] and 70s horror and actually uses film that they would have used back then like film techniques and

[00:39:04] film that they would have used back in the 70s and 80s to make it that more much that just much

[00:39:09] more authentic like stranger things the creepypasta stranger things two degree yes but I'm thinking

[00:39:18] more like they nailed the 80s instead yeah they nailed the 80s but like I'm I'm thinking more like

[00:39:24] skin emurink or um uh the house that uh I think the house of the devil which actually used like

[00:39:32] celluloid film from like that and and film techniques from that era or used like a the guys like

[00:39:38] parents house from like the 80s and 90s to to film in rather to kind of evoke that like that older

[00:39:47] period uh feel even though it was shot in like 2018 2020 so early 22 kind of thing say yeah um

[00:39:57] again this me like for me the story was more like the the chart part of the charm of it for me was

[00:40:02] the craft of it um now I'll move on to the next thing I have here and this might be this could be um

[00:40:12] either you guys might agree with me or this may be very damning for me my opinion

[00:40:20] so yeah uh can temporarily it's mostly associated with a spooky green tech like like I was

[00:40:27] mentioning earlier about the earlier creep pasta uh a spooky green tech story about a haunted old

[00:40:34] computer terminal admittedly I liberally skimmed it my face was hot with fear after only a few

[00:40:41] sentences but I mostly got the gist this guy uh this guy's phone calls with his penpal

[00:40:49] okay this guy's phone calls this guy kept getting interrupted I think it's like this guy's phone

[00:41:03] calls yeah yeah this guy's phone calls with his penpal kept getting interrupted and he realized

[00:41:12] it was because his computer was dialed up internet in all on its own after getting fed up and unplugging

[00:41:22] the whole thing this image was allegedly burned onto a floppy disk or onto his floppy disk

[00:41:28] after this his friend stopped calling to me this whole thing seemed like another dead end

[00:41:34] or is this a sequel slash spinoff to who was phone because who was phone

[00:41:43] oh my god it might be who was dial up who was dial up to

[00:41:51] cuz it kind of has like the same again like and I think that's again like I think this is just a

[00:41:55] nod to like the who was phone or like that kind of yeah like it at like guys on a phone call

[00:42:00] with a penpal and like it's it keeps getting interrupted and then like the thing like it's because

[00:42:06] of a dial up thing and then when he unplugs everything this image the image that we saw was like

[00:42:12] burned into a floppy disk and just it's so of like early internet horror

[00:42:20] so yeah and yeah just like my my little like silly comment is like or is this just a spinoff

[00:42:26] too who was phone it's got dial up now

[00:42:33] but yeah so I'll move on to the next thing I have and this one's also going to be rather silly I

[00:42:37] think I'll let you guys be the judge so this is from the quote the quote here is once again we were

[00:42:44] up to no good started making trouble in the neighborhood caught one little site and my friends

[00:42:49] got scared they said the red man's back and you've got to get out of there I'm sorry

[00:42:57] yo home to bel air yeah sorry I don't know why it's really dumb but I couldn't help them have

[00:43:04] that pop up in my head what's I read like we were up to no good and then I started constructing a

[00:43:10] red man version of the lyrics okay I thought you were reading it for me like

[00:43:17] I should have say that I should have said I'm sorry yeah certainly yeah though

[00:43:24] I thought you were reading a quote a direct quote from the story no the first part is a quote

[00:43:30] yeah once again we were up to no good and then like that's where it stops but then my mind

[00:43:35] keep going it's like starter making trouble in the neighborhood caught one little site

[00:43:39] and my friends got scared they said the red man's back you gotta get out of there that's great

[00:43:44] yeah good I was like I was like this is like even my notes like right after like this is super dumb

[00:43:49] I'm sorry I know but it's like it seemed to dumber the normal but I kept it in a ways

[00:44:00] we have a dumbness slider that we adjust as necessary it's fine true yeah some moments are

[00:44:06] dumber than others yeah yeah I think I think I've now like reached critical silliness

[00:44:17] for me I think I've reached my critical silliness okay yeah we can always go dumb yeah yeah

[00:44:26] yeah I'll move on to the next thing I have here so the quote I have is it started slowly a tweet here

[00:44:35] a tenor gift there the internet the internet's pervasive smattering of redman depictions

[00:44:42] seem to find us wherever we least expected it we'd always keep each other posted when we found

[00:44:50] another it became sort of a running gag among friends that we were being haunted by the red men

[00:44:58] and then a little later as things escalated we get this as I type this I'm scrolling through

[00:45:05] endless discussions about cryptic videos popping up in recommended feeds aberrations and video games

[00:45:12] files web pages on the omnipresence of a man of a mysterious red figure it almost feels validating

[00:45:20] to see these claims corroborated we who witnessed the red man have been brought together online

[00:45:27] and we've got each other's backs among the stories though there are sets of names emergency

[00:45:34] contacts locations and I feel sick people are going missing so game fodder I've got the

[00:45:43] Vossen itch especially now that I have a modern Vossen supplement that I found on drive therapy

[00:45:48] gee I think I've mentioned it before um and really this idea could be used with other modern horror

[00:45:56] games like fear itself or even little fears if you want to have like childhood horror or like teen

[00:46:00] horror implemented in this situation so like an entity trapped online or some and somehow

[00:46:08] that slowly latches on to a group of people the players and begins popping up all over their feeds

[00:46:16] and at first seemingly innocuous like you should basically the first half hour of the game is pretty

[00:46:21] like like it's not has an attack anybody hasn't like threatened anybody it's just this sort of like

[00:46:26] novelty that like it's kind of copied the groups attention but as things go on perhaps strange

[00:46:33] things start happening leading up to an NPC in the group or family members of the player characters

[00:46:40] going missing um after they were introduced after they were they were told about this thing

[00:46:45] by their by their characters maybe with some hint as to the red man's connection um I feel I feel

[00:46:53] this empty has prop has promise as a focus for a spreading mimetic creature in like a tabletop game

[00:47:00] um and then like we and then we go back go to the uh the status of the status image that we get

[00:47:06] of crystal the which is the second link in the story um and everybody following along it's basically

[00:47:14] like uh like a sort of a profile status uh image but it's all like red and it's uh it's got clear

[00:47:22] signs of the red man's um uh signature and like images and imagery and stuff like that and it's

[00:47:29] like like everything's like like like crystals name is like dot dot dot dot dot about me and then

[00:47:33] it's like red man like the red man the original red man symbol or image and then like um roll

[00:47:40] in it's in like a red circle and then next to it together and then like under the node it's like

[00:47:44] I found you so it's like very like clearly she got caught by the red man um and uh yeah just see

[00:47:53] what I was talking about earlier with like the red man taking people's disappearances and like

[00:47:57] having finding a way to link uh the red man to uh these disappearances in a game in a tabletop

[00:48:03] game basically you just use something like that like use that kind of like you notice that their profile

[00:48:07] name has now had been changed to like this kind of thing or like they have these kind of messages

[00:48:12] um how you can even have like weird like some like maybe if you want to go a little bit more blatant

[00:48:17] um the person's like room like on their wall there's just like in red material like red liquid maybe

[00:48:23] it's blood maybe it's just like spray paint it's it's in zalgo font and it says like uh like uh

[00:48:29] we're finally yeah now i'm home oh god oh man bad bad versus red uh versus red man

[00:48:41] would win that's what we lose um but um yeah uh yeah i i feel like um you can even try and

[00:48:54] play it off either like the story like using this creature in like a game or something that

[00:48:58] um you can even play it off either as the explanation or just the initial rationale of the players

[00:49:06] or like of the characters uh that are in this game that this is some creepy internet serial hacker

[00:49:10] slash stalker who's kidnapping its victims their victims and just like finding a way to break in and then

[00:49:15] maybe really mundane yeah you can make this whole completely mundane or have it start seemingly

[00:49:21] mundane and then like introduce the more supernatural aspects later like as it progresses um the image

[00:49:28] itself um i just think it's a really good way at hammering home the dire situation for crystal

[00:49:34] like she has clearly taken and her profile has been affected with the red man

[00:49:40] um it's kind of weird that like supernatural creatures care about that like specifically about

[00:49:47] like infecting profile stances and stuff i think so i think for most at least my interpretation

[00:49:54] of that kind of stuff is most of the time it's just like it's a byproduct of their presence

[00:49:58] like it just they naturally infect um the the world around them or taint the world around them with

[00:50:03] these weird like symbol these weird weird messages and stuff like that they may not actually be like

[00:50:08] seems like he let me type this up let me alter this profile i think it's just like say it with

[00:50:13] my favorite gift on it i'll put that in there exactly i think i think it's just like as they pass by

[00:50:18] it changes because like they're just they're aura corrupts like this around them the hence why

[00:50:23] the new city's website looks the way it does too because i'm assuming you didn't look like that when

[00:50:27] yeah maybe exactly like maybe that this is all from the corruption of the red man

[00:50:32] i'm assuming it was it probably looked like a default new city's page

[00:50:37] yeah because i doubt they had time to like pick their favorite color and background and

[00:50:41] yeah or like or take or find this like really weird like gift version from uh of like staircases

[00:50:48] yeah or or railings yeah is a staircase on the railings you're not wrong yeah in the in the music video

[00:50:55] that's that's it's actually the railing what the red man's coming up from so um i'll see yeah

[00:51:00] anybody who's listening like listening to us uh and hasn't checked out like you should check out

[00:51:04] the red man's lament on youtube it's it's a it's a creepy fun little uh like it's it's a creepy spooky

[00:51:11] like music video so um but uh yeah i'll move on to the next thing i have here um we've tried countless

[00:51:21] times to somehow bridge the impossible gap between us but no matter how hard we tried something always

[00:51:28] got in the way an unforeseen emergency a lack of money or the fear of what our parents might do

[00:51:34] if they found out about us as i sat alone in my room softly illuminated by the red light of the

[00:51:40] rising sun listening to the morning birds we tried to forget about another failed attempt at

[00:51:46] anything connecting sorry for rambling i just really want to see her right now i like how this story

[00:51:55] is just deep in a type of isolation and a long distance relationship situation

[00:52:05] between this group of friends i feel like especially nowadays this sort of isolation uh this

[00:52:13] the sort of isolated connectedness is really familiar to a lot of folks especially

[00:52:19] af post pandemic um where like we don't we we've we've definitely like glued ourselves more and

[00:52:27] more to to monitors and like to face timing or like or connecting online rather than like meeting in

[00:52:33] in real person like in real space the whole idea of like i think the whole term meet space is

[00:52:39] uh kind of spawned out of the of the pandemic uh you referred to meet space a lot before that

[00:52:45] yeah but that was and that was also because like we were gaming either online or

[00:52:49] in real life but so like and i i think i learned it online so like i think i covered it online so

[00:52:55] um but yeah uh this sort of yeah it's it's really i think it's really familiar for a lot of people

[00:53:00] nowadays and it can be used really well in this sort of horror like uh i'm while i was reading the

[00:53:09] story and like getting to the end i was kind of reminded by an outer limits episode where

[00:53:14] it's it's survivors of an online or it's survivors of an invasion and um the the characters are

[00:53:22] like basically like these people that were uh put put in outposts by their governments across the world

[00:53:29] um and they are separated by great distances but they are connected by video calls by a video call

[00:53:35] system that is like encrypted that they can communicate with each other and like keep tabs on

[00:53:39] each other to figure out what the situation what what their what each person's situation is and they

[00:53:45] they eventually like uh form like little relationships or friendships and stuff like that um and then

[00:53:52] it sort of doesn't go i'll not go spoil that episode but it doesn't go well for anybody and like as

[00:53:58] basically people start getting like picked off or like people stop dropping off the call essentially

[00:54:03] including the love interest of the main character and then um they get a call and it

[00:54:10] it just doesn't go well um so like that kind of thing was was what was coming through my head was

[00:54:15] as i was finishing up the story and it evokes that same kind of mood that has popped up in the internet

[00:54:23] age and can find root in creepypasta's and online internet horror because it's that it's

[00:54:28] just so familial to a lot of people who are like online a lot so like that kind of like feeling of

[00:54:36] of you're you're connected to somebody but you're also in a way i physically isolated

[00:54:40] yeah is weird how things are going these days like the yeah and it's not like i think the pandemic

[00:54:47] accelerated it but it was kind of going on for like like like to sit throughout the two thousands

[00:54:52] yeah from the two thousands on like we've had like there's a whole there's actually a whole like

[00:54:56] animais and like other and like movies and shows and stuff like that like that draw on that

[00:55:03] on the on that situation um and it just shows like that there's there's meat on that bone

[00:55:09] for uh for material to to comment on socially um especially for i was walking with my dad the other day

[00:55:18] and like it's March break now right isn't it yeah yeah as a as a recording yesterday it was like

[00:55:25] when the first warm days in a long time there's no snow anymore despite us being in Canada yes sometimes

[00:55:31] there is no snow on the ground um yeah i know we're not just a we're not just a some a snow blast

[00:55:35] of wasteland no at least not this one day tomorrow we will be snow blast again regardless um

[00:55:43] it was it was nice i wear it for a walk and and my dad's basically like it's March break but

[00:55:49] where is everyone i'm like probably everyone's home inside doing things like people don't

[00:55:54] do shit anymore yeah my my mom similarly my my mom went out on the start of the week like

[00:56:01] went into town and she was surprised that there was no kids out or like no teens no kids out

[00:56:06] um even though it's March break i was like mom it's

[00:56:08] today's day and age like they're probably inside on their screens are on like playing like playing

[00:56:13] online or something like that it's um or or it's just like the start of the week is uh but because

[00:56:19] um i then went out i've gone with a couple of walks with them um and similar to you but like

[00:56:25] the one day there was nobody and in the next day there were so many people walking their dogs

[00:56:30] all at the same time it was ridiculous and there were people playing outside but like

[00:56:35] and then like it just sort of off it on but like it's definitely not as much as it used to be

[00:56:39] and i think that's just i mean it's probably just a either like people weren't aware

[00:56:44] like how nice a day was or they're inside yeah for sure yeah just the way things are

[00:56:50] kids these days as i stand inside my house recording a podcast while playing power wash simulation

[00:56:56] yeah well it's sunny out there it's not really supposed to actually take this to be very nice

[00:56:59] i think it is raining outside right now it is raining so we have a reason not to be outside but uh

[00:57:06] liquid sunshine yeah liquid sunlight uh but yeah like so just kind of hard it just kind of helps

[00:57:17] yeah it just hammers home the um this aspect that is is very much touched on in the story of this

[00:57:23] um this connected isolation or this isolated connectiveness that online friends and like

[00:57:29] and online being online a lot of the time kind of convoc and you can use that in the story

[00:57:36] yeah I don't think we've really at least i haven't read too many crew bosses with that sort

[00:57:40] of life to it which is weird because a lot of early ones are like that like because it's a lot

[00:57:45] of a lot of online early crew bosses were written by people who are i don't want to use the word

[00:57:50] terminally online but like that were basically like a lot of a lot of early crew bosses were by people

[00:57:56] who spent a lot of time on the internet yeah so um i don't want to use that term because i don't

[00:58:04] like that term because i don't think i mean i think it's it can be a case for some people but i

[00:58:08] don't think it's i think nowadays i don't think it really applies because like people do also get

[00:58:14] like they don't they didn't they they spend a lot of time online but like out of necessity and

[00:58:19] stuff like that and it's we do isn't just a toy yeah you can like literally like make ends meet

[00:58:27] by being online exactly yeah so it's not necessarily is so much of a bad thing these days

[00:58:33] yeah um and i think also like the whole idea of like having online friends has also changed

[00:58:40] dramatically because like early on like in the 90s and 2000s having online friends were like these

[00:58:45] strangers that you never knew that was so yeah it was like oh like those aren't your real friends

[00:58:49] your real friends the ones that like live near you it's like no like as it's gotten old it's like

[00:58:53] no like those the people that you meet online like as long as you're like being safe about it and

[00:58:57] like and careful about it like those are just as valid as regular as friends in meetspace

[00:59:04] so it's this the story's kind of invoking that kind of stuff like those kind of vibes off of me

[00:59:08] like or like or kind of give me those like those thoughts while i was reading it so um but i'll

[00:59:15] i'll finish up my actual thoughts i'm almost done i'm on my last tour here yeah um so with this quote

[00:59:22] here despite our laps in communication this whole mess has made me feel closer to her than ever

[00:59:28] I know i'm going to meet her soon the red glow of my monitor must be a sign that she's reaching out

[00:59:36] from beyond the void radiating an incomprehensible indescribable warmth that i can't help but crave

[00:59:43] i can almost hear her sweetheims or her sweet hymns her sweet hymns caroling through my headphones

[00:59:52] and i want to listen and now the character has become a victim yet again yet another victim of the

[00:59:59] red man because yeah she's like he's clearly this person's clearly been falling into the siren

[01:00:06] song of of the uh of the of the entity or no maybe it is maybe it's crystal maybe it isn't all

[01:00:13] that bad maybe maybe you should just embrace the red light from your time maybe the red man is

[01:00:18] actually just a good guy and he's like these people are meant for each other i'm going to use my

[01:00:23] magic to teleport them to the same location yeah maybe it's a happy ending maybe it's a buddy

[01:00:30] yeah maybe this is all really just a buddy horror maybe red man is a is an online okay so

[01:00:35] boss inside time maybe red man is actually a cupid for the digital age yeah like he's bringing

[01:00:43] people together magic technology together yeah bring back that old oh make yeah that running bit

[01:00:52] um but yeah honestly the ending of this page gives so much to make this uh creature something for a

[01:01:03] game scenario like it as it draws close to its victims it begins to siren sing or even like maybe

[01:01:10] even like take on the the voice or like the the take on the identity of the character of of a

[01:01:18] previous victim that the character was close to to like perhaps hypnotically pull them into the red

[01:01:23] glow of the computer and bring them into their realm or their world or like we just said maybe

[01:01:29] flip it around maybe like it's start it seems sinister and evil but it's actually like a a weird

[01:01:34] twisted version of a cupid uh in like the digital way like maybe it is actually just like a um

[01:01:40] uh like some kind of like spirit of love or connection that is now in the digital age um you see it a

[01:01:46] lot in like neo paganism and stuff like from like the early 2000s like the the where like the after life

[01:01:52] or like the uh the the fade worlds and the the the ethereal worlds aren't in the are in the digital world

[01:01:59] or stuff like that so um i remember i remember seeing a lot of like when i was in high school in

[01:02:05] like early college i remember in like the early 2000s like seeing a lot of like really like

[01:02:10] i guess neo city style or even like uh my space websites for like um like neo wickedism and

[01:02:17] like neo paganism where's like oh like the the spirit world is in the digital world now like

[01:02:22] where it's all like tech it's like almost like like borderlining techomancy

[01:02:28] i guess it's good to boxback to like superhuman samurai side of us for a little bit too

[01:02:32] a little bit too yeah so like i wonder if we can use this for shadow run sorry Mikey

[01:02:37] yeah like maybe this is like something because like in i know in fourth edition shadow run there is

[01:02:43] also a um so in in in fourth edition magicians and wizards and shaman's uh evokes someone in

[01:02:53] evoke spirits from the from meta planes which are like basically like pocket dimensions of magic

[01:02:59] in the astral plane that's like parallel to our own and they're all like flavored by uh from

[01:03:04] different like mythologies and cultures and stuff like that but there's in fourth edition they kind

[01:03:09] of tried to balance techomancy with the two wizards and magic and stuff so they gave

[01:03:14] technomancy's resonance instead of magic and they gave technomancy uh like the techno mancy or

[01:03:20] techomancers had um like tech spirits or sprites like these little like these spirits of machines

[01:03:25] or of the internet and they had their own little like domains like little pocket dimensions of

[01:03:30] cyberspace um that i think could it depending on like the location you were in

[01:03:36] where like a high concentration of like frequencies or electronics they could actually like

[01:03:40] um interact with the physical world a little bit so to like so much silver hand a sprite

[01:03:47] technically technically

[01:03:52] kind of he's yeah he could technically be a sprite if you want to like try and pull him into like shadow run

[01:03:58] yeah um referring to him from cyberpunk 277

[01:04:02] yeah he'd basically be like a tech equivalent of a free spirit i think that's like bound to a certain

[01:04:07] person because of that the microchip that's in them yeah because it is tech based but it is like

[01:04:12] also his soul in there it's yeah yeah it's it's it's very complex because like strangely enough

[01:04:17] like yeah like cyberpunk like 277 has this like like the internet is like an ethereal

[01:04:25] it's another dimension is like another reality overlaid the real world where like god tier

[01:04:32] ais are held back by a by a great firewall like by a barrier like and there's like all great beyond

[01:04:39] be like there's actually like the internet that you you jack into in cyber in cyberpunk 277

[01:04:44] like in night city is a safe pocket that is surrounded by a great like firewall barrier that keeps

[01:04:52] god tier rogue a i out and like the way they they describe in the way you kind of interact with it

[01:04:59] especially with like the voodoo gang and stuff like that um it's it's almost like like it's a barrier to

[01:05:05] like the the fair realms are like a greater beyond dimension that's cool so yeah um and I think

[01:05:13] it's also like physically like there's actually a physical wall of it like if you go past a certain

[01:05:18] point outside of night city you start going into that and you start going past that that fire the

[01:05:24] boundaries of the safe internet and into like the wild internet where like the rogue AI can like

[01:05:29] hack into your hack into your devices if you're not careful really I think so I think that was

[01:05:35] kind of the impression I initially got when I was first playing cyberpunk 277 but I might be wrong

[01:05:41] um point is yeah like this this kind of creature this kind of entity the red man could be one of those

[01:05:46] like entities that you could implement in like a number of tabletop games as like a spirit of the

[01:05:52] machine or a spirit that's like online or some some entity that's that's online that can can

[01:05:57] fuck with modern with with mundane with with with material world as well as the digital world

[01:06:03] and I'm here for it so um because honestly like this whole idea of like people getting dragged into

[01:06:09] their their computer so it kind of reminds me of like a reverse ringo sequence like

[01:06:15] it's it's it's it's for the yes it's a Samara like coming out of the TV she just like pulls people

[01:06:21] into the TV it's captain and the game master yeah so it's also a that can also be a terrifying thing

[01:06:28] yeah yeah there's a number I wasn't really like a um are you afraid of the dark episode

[01:06:34] that dealt with a virus that was similar to that oh probably I wouldn't be surprised

[01:06:39] but anyway back to back to the story at hand uh that's that's really all I have for my actual thoughts

[01:06:42] I like the creature of the Red Man,

[01:06:45] like what it can do.

[01:06:47] And I like how this story plays on,

[01:06:50] like using this seemingly supernatural glitchy,

[01:06:53] like internet horror monster,

[01:06:55] but also like plays with the idea of like online friends

[01:06:58] and like the sort of like isolation you have

[01:07:01] from your friends when you have an online group like this.

[01:07:04] And like what happens when things go bad?

[01:07:06] Like how do you communicate?

[01:07:08] How do you try and like make contact again?

[01:07:09] So like that.

[01:07:11] Yeah, um, Mikey do you have?

[01:07:14] Well, I guess Mikey, you're up.

[01:07:17] I'll, I'll, I'll really,

[01:07:18] I'll really push the microphone.

[01:07:19] I swear.

[01:07:20] No, there you go.

[01:07:22] It's not your comment.

[01:07:28] All right.

[01:07:29] Um, well, my take on this is that

[01:07:35] there is the Red Man.

[01:07:39] I'm sorry.

[01:07:40] Okay, there is the red man.

[01:07:43] Yeah, I heard him.

[01:07:44] But just like it was that it was that me or that gift.

[01:07:47] I was like, we're just like the guy just like,

[01:07:49] Oh,

[01:07:50] I'm stuck in sweat.

[01:07:52] All right.

[01:07:53] So,

[01:07:55] uh,

[01:07:56] and he's basically internet stalking crystal.

[01:08:01] Oh,

[01:08:02] so

[01:08:04] and the reason why he's the red man is because at the end,

[01:08:09] he has the red glow from my monitor.

[01:08:15] So he's in, we assume he's in a dark room with only the glow

[01:08:20] from his monitor.

[01:08:21] He is a red man.

[01:08:24] Oh, so he

[01:08:27] and now that he's, and he's with crystal now because he has her.

[01:08:34] And yeah, and oh man, that's so like that.

[01:08:37] If this was all like him,

[01:08:40] yeah, now going to the image of the status,

[01:08:47] it's actually a discord profile.

[01:08:51] All right.

[01:08:52] And the note at the bottom is what you put in.

[01:08:56] Like I literally added one to gamer and yellow's profile while we were doing this.

[01:09:01] It's not something that we see.

[01:09:03] It's something that he can see from self.

[01:09:05] It's a note.

[01:09:06] Oh, yeah.

[01:09:07] Yeah.

[01:09:08] Okay.

[01:09:09] Got it.

[01:09:10] Oh shoot.

[01:09:11] Yeah.

[01:09:12] So I hate this fucking guy.

[01:09:13] But you'll never see it.

[01:09:14] Yeah.

[01:09:21] So that,

[01:09:22] um,

[01:09:24] goes into more of the stalker side of things where he's

[01:09:28] like a ghost,

[01:09:31] and he's gonna be like this

[01:09:33] and he's gonna be like this.

[01:09:35] He's gonna be like this.

[01:09:36] He's gonna be like this.

[01:09:38] Becomes bitten by someone that he's only heard her voice

[01:09:42] because it says they've never met in person.

[01:09:46] And it goes on to say

[01:09:49] for as long as I've known that my dear beloved crystal,

[01:09:54] like twist it on its head that is very like

[01:09:58] like stalker letter. Yeah,

[01:10:02] like I think I literally like heard something like a there's a

[01:10:04] chill as art game where you're playing as like a barista at us

[01:10:09] at a at a Starbucks style thing and you're being stalked by some

[01:10:13] yeah nice shift. Yeah. And you definitely get some letters from

[01:10:16] a from a mysterious figure who is and they basically like leave

[01:10:19] messages like that to you at your door and it's very

[01:10:22] disconcerting. Yep, that's all because of the game. They that guy

[01:10:26] couldn't find his phone and you gave it to him. So he fell off

[01:10:29] with you and started talking. Yep. Yeah. So you get to be a

[01:10:33] nice. Remember people being asked. I really hate that.

[01:10:39] I know. Like it's up to you to be an asshole. Just be careful.

[01:10:43] Just be careful. Like be friendly, be nice. But have a

[01:10:47] taser. Yeah, have a means to offend yourself. Just when if

[01:10:52] it goes wrong like plan for the worst but expect the best. Yeah.

[01:11:00] I can't take your sandwich. That's my sandwich. Back off

[01:11:03] your own sandwich. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:11:10] We're referencing a stupid old thing from the 2000. It was

[01:11:13] like late 90s early 2000s. It was a commercial for like maple

[01:11:16] leaf like deli meat. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ham and

[01:11:21] deli meat. And there's like basically like a self-defense

[01:11:25] course. But it was like how do how to keep your sandwich safe

[01:11:27] from like people who want your sandwiches? Like and they're

[01:11:30] like doing like Taekwondo kind of moves. And they're like

[01:11:32] they're like throw it is like remember you you you you

[01:11:36] throw up your throw up your lunch bag and then you do a kick

[01:11:39] and it's like back off good your own sandwich.

[01:11:42] And then there's like and it's funny because like one of the

[01:11:45] like like back off good your own sandwich. And then these

[01:11:47] were just like you're too nice Kate. Y'all might as they're

[01:11:50] mess like so they like the meditating is like y'all.

[01:11:56] Yeah, I'll leave a link in the description for that.

[01:12:02] These links to like root pauses and then maple leaf sandwich.

[01:12:06] People do contacts to what we're fucking saying. I know which is

[01:12:09] gonna be funny to see.

[01:12:11] Yeah.

[01:12:15] Yeah, like also before you we went on that little tangent.

[01:12:18] Yeah, sorry. Oh god.

[01:12:21] I was actually just commenters like life advice.

[01:12:25] Fred, don't take rig mortis because it's like it's like

[01:12:30] plan for the worst but but expect the best.

[01:12:33] Like be prepared.

[01:12:37] Yeah.

[01:12:41] Yeah, and it just the whole N sequence just seems very stalkery.

[01:12:46] Yeah, it definitely changed there's definitely a shift like

[01:12:50] like halfway through.

[01:12:52] Yeah.

[01:12:55] So like maybe that's the real horror is

[01:13:00] some online guy that doesn't know you

[01:13:04] is something I love with you.

[01:13:07] Yeah, that's true.

[01:13:08] I think so.

[01:13:09] Yeah, yeah.

[01:13:10] Well, aren't just relegated to the males.

[01:13:13] I mean, can be bad people too.

[01:13:20] I don't even tell me otherwise.

[01:13:22] Gamer's not before he was canceled.

[01:13:30] Yeah.

[01:13:30] But no, you're right.

[01:13:32] Like there are female predators as much as male predators.

[01:13:36] So yeah.

[01:13:38] Yeah.

[01:13:41] So yeah, that's a

[01:13:44] primordial I have to say.

[01:13:47] Okay.

[01:13:49] I definitely think that isn't really I actually really like

[01:13:51] that take is like that there is nothing supernatural.

[01:13:54] It's actually that

[01:13:57] near here.

[01:13:57] This is sort of like an unintentional

[01:13:59] intentional confession

[01:14:01] to stalking and kidnapping somebody.

[01:14:03] Yeah.

[01:14:04] Yeah.

[01:14:04] That actually is a really interesting idea for like

[01:14:07] for the story like as a turn of events for the story.

[01:14:11] Mm-hmm.

[01:14:13] So good job, Mikey.

[01:14:17] All right, Gamer, you're up.

[01:14:19] What do I have left?

[01:14:23] Okay, I'm going to read these quotes without

[01:14:27] freaking out at all the weird symbols just to make my life easier

[01:14:30] and make it easier to defend.

[01:14:32] I think there's that you may wonder if you know

[01:14:35] you guys may have noticed some pauses in me

[01:14:36] is because I was like trying to like

[01:14:38] quickly decipher what I was reading.

[01:14:43] So I'm sure there's a logical explanation for all of this

[01:14:46] but I need more ice to parse it.

[01:14:48] Please reach out if you can help.

[01:14:50] I don't know how anyone would reach out

[01:14:53] without an email or contact method on this page whatsoever.

[01:14:56] Or a car yeah, I'm surprised there's not a like yeah,

[01:14:58] like that's another thing like yeah,

[01:14:59] there should be like an email or something like that.

[01:15:01] And like at the top or like

[01:15:06] the surprises like it doesn't even have like a comment section at the bottom

[01:15:09] even but yeah.

[01:15:13] Granted comment sections can be good or bad because they

[01:15:17] might mess with immersion while other people are actually like

[01:15:20] trying to be in in character in universe.

[01:15:23] Yeah, like I think it would be cool that to have like

[01:15:26] I don't know like how sketchy or how like

[01:15:30] how reasonable it would be.

[01:15:31] It might be interesting to have like if the person

[01:15:33] who made this had a like just made up

[01:15:36] a quick Google like Gmail account

[01:15:39] for like redman.gmail.com or at gmail.com

[01:15:42] just to like see how many people they hook in.

[01:15:47] For sure, that'd be fun

[01:15:49] but that's not there so that whole line is kind of unnecessary

[01:15:53] honestly because you can't contact.

[01:15:56] Yeah, like it's good for immersion but I have all the immersive stuff

[01:16:01] like that one's the one that is probably the weakest.

[01:16:06] That's about it really for the weakness of that though.

[01:16:10] But moving on, this guy,

[01:16:14] a secret saying this guy's phone calls with his penpal

[01:16:18] keep getting interrupted and he realized because

[01:16:21] his computer's on a dial up interrupt thing we mentioned this

[01:16:24] after getting fed up with the whole thing

[01:16:25] allegedly burned in the pocket.

[01:16:27] So some might see this as like a supernatural thing

[01:16:30] but like all this mention of like weird things happening through the internet

[01:16:35] it just kind of gives me vibes of a hacker.

[01:16:37] Fucking the things.

[01:16:39] And that's all it could also be like

[01:16:42] like I even explained like that could be in a tabletop

[01:16:45] exploration like that could be the your explanation is

[01:16:47] it's just like a weird serial hacker slash stalker.

[01:16:50] Yeah, for sure like even the discord thing

[01:16:53] yes we're assuming that anything around the red man gets affected by it

[01:17:01] and that's why it goes all red manly but you know

[01:17:04] you get hacked the hacker can fuck with things and do the same thing you know.

[01:17:08] So there is a mundane explanation for all of it which is kind of cool

[01:17:14] because as much as creepiness and supernatural stuff is fun

[01:17:19] it's also a supernatural safety blanket where real life horror is actually horrifying

[01:17:26] because it could actually happen.

[01:17:28] Yeah, I had to ask for a raska.

[01:17:30] I had to ask for a raska.

[01:17:33] To bring up raska again.

[01:17:35] Yeah, for the hundredth time in the last two months.

[01:17:38] Yeah, kind of.

[01:17:39] Yeah, not really but that's a blatant exaggeration but anyway

[01:17:44] the yeah like I find it like I was actually just thinking of it's like

[01:17:48] I like like supernatural aspects give us the safety blanket

[01:17:53] but it's also a safety blanket and that like not everybody wants to read something super

[01:17:59] skeevier super realistic.

[01:18:01] Like so like to have that is also like something good for people who don't want to experience

[01:18:05] like somebody who might have who might get triggered by an actual like creepy stalker thing

[01:18:10] like that that's a that's a very real and very unfortunately very common thing that happens

[01:18:14] on it's like on par with like being cyber bullied like cyber stalking.

[01:18:19] Yeah unfortunately but for maximum skeevee and creepiness that's where you go for sure.

[01:18:26] Yeah, but yeah there's good and bad to do supernatural based is on the same

[01:18:32] but this can be viewed either way so pick your poison basically.

[01:18:36] Basically, yeah.

[01:18:38] Yeah, um I feel like the true horror in this whole story is basically just what can happen

[01:18:44] when the algorithm takes over and people to watch and search for stuff that it wants them to do.

[01:18:50] Oh my god when machine learning AI shit kind of like takes over.

[01:18:56] That's what this is actually all it's just a rogue algorithm.

[01:18:59] Yeah, red men's actually like again like the throwing like a cyber spuper naturalness

[01:19:04] to it's like it's actually just like a rogue AI that was originally like made for

[01:19:08] as an algorithm for like spotting things and it just it's just gotten nuts and become the red man

[01:19:14] because like I've had some scary things where I'm not even like I don't even talk about like

[01:19:19] I don't even have the phone like on hand.

[01:19:21] It's like on a counter somewhere and I'm talking in the room with my folks about something

[01:19:26] or like my sister about something and then I go on to like tick talk or twitter and I start seeing

[01:19:32] stuff about that. I was like why is this suddenly popping like and like just a stream of it not

[01:19:38] just like one or two things like a whole like feed of of what I was just talking about.

[01:19:43] I was like fuck my phone's listening.

[01:19:47] It might actually be you do have it out there.

[01:19:52] Not that's what you're saying.

[01:19:53] Oh yeah, actually.

[01:19:54] I mean throw shade in Apple, like they're big mega corp.

[01:19:59] They don't deserve uh

[01:20:02] protection.

[01:20:06] So the fact that you mentioned red man means that the algorithm's like hey you got your red

[01:20:10] man.

[01:20:11] Can you know how you want to look at stuff for red man?

[01:20:14] Yep.

[01:20:20] Anya pretty much everything else kind of brushed on a little bit as we were talking um

[01:20:25] Mikey your whole like view of it and like specifically as soon as you brought up

[01:20:31] the uh the discord note section being written in that literally cemented this as a real life

[01:20:41] uh like stalker kidnapped story unfortunately.

[01:20:45] So I don't have that safety blanket anyway.

[01:20:46] That was right away with that revelation.

[01:20:50] Vendorway in the red light of this of reality.

[01:20:53] Yeah because that screenshot shows that the person writing this typed in I found you.

[01:21:00] Yeah that's true.

[01:21:01] I see I don't I'll I can still have my ironically rose color glasses on.

[01:21:06] Yeah.

[01:21:07] Um to uh to uh I can still like thread together some things like oh it could still be supernatural.

[01:21:14] Maybe he's not typing it maybe it's typing on its own.

[01:21:19] Sure.

[01:21:20] As like sending him a message like I found you.

[01:21:23] Okay.

[01:21:25] I mean it could be addressed to hit the person the person in actually could be you're actually

[01:21:31] writing.

[01:21:32] The but here's another blight here's another safety blanket game or let me just wrap this over

[01:21:36] out to you.

[01:21:37] Just see if you like pop coco.

[01:21:38] The last one though I prefer to have warm the other ones.

[01:21:42] I'm sorry I didn't I didn't have time to do it in a uh aligning I'm sorry.

[01:21:46] Okay I appreciate you.

[01:21:50] Here's some lukewarm cocoa.

[01:21:53] That's not high I guess that's okay.

[01:21:59] Wow this silliness is amazing um so yeah I do like it though honestly.

[01:22:06] I like it more um having these quote unquote like actual confirmed quote um real life

[01:22:17] potential creepiness to this yeah because I don't know it hits me more because it's like uh

[01:22:24] especially if you're not creepier than any supernatural like it could ever be even even like

[01:22:29] going further ahead like further like going back to like when I was like rabbit holding

[01:22:34] and then going further into like where this was pop this was popping up on somebody's like stream

[01:22:38] while they were like streaming it online and like in the chat like by people who were like watching

[01:22:42] and then we're getting these bots that were like uh we're bringing up this this uh the link to

[01:22:47] this website specifically. That in real like again there's a there's a recent chilla zards game called

[01:22:53] parasocial that has something very similar where like somebody in the chat posts a uh a link to a

[01:22:59] new game or something or something to check out and the person does it and their computer gets hacked

[01:23:05] so it's like that's how it spreads it spreads through these hacker bots and so that so it's like

[01:23:09] basically a stalker going after like a wider spread it could be supernatural or it could be somebody

[01:23:15] basically throwing tossing a cyber net out to see if they can get somebody with uh with fishing like

[01:23:20] with pH. Is that pH fishing? Yeah I think pH fishing is when they send out a bunch of emails to

[01:23:28] different email addresses in the hopes you might uh click on something that you're not supposed to

[01:23:33] yes yes you're right but yeah um I guess that's about it till the final thoughts um

[01:23:39] my thoughts change uh while reading this or I'm listening to everyone talking about it though.

[01:23:45] Yeah I got actually I as I'm still on the supernatural side but I got to command Mikey for

[01:23:51] for coming up with for giving me a new perspective that I that like made it it could be it's just

[01:23:57] as valid I feel yeah of being like real because like I now can't unsee how the characters um

[01:24:04] mannerism toward crystal changes at the end of the story. Yeah like you can read that like

[01:24:11] as such a nice thing to say or as such a horrible thing to say using the exact same words

[01:24:18] like at first I thought it was just like oh it's just kind of like an awkward like you know they're not

[01:24:22] really sure how to talk or how to how to bring this guy stuff up so they're talking about like

[01:24:26] I just want to give her a big hug yeah it's like or it's just like awkward like online kind of stuff

[01:24:30] like flirting so with that it's fine but and then like at my first interpretation was that oh

[01:24:36] like as it went as it got weirder and kind of more like an intimate and stuff of that and then

[01:24:39] he was talking about like going to see your and stuff or like want to just wants to see your

[01:24:42] again is like oh he's being he's being sucked in he's being lulled in by the by the entity

[01:24:48] but then you get my Mikey's interpretation and it's just like oh no he's showing his true colors

[01:24:54] red red yeah and he's actually it's cybercupid it's fine

[01:25:02] yeah maybe maybe that's it

[01:25:05] I like brown and she definitely not bound with red rope in his basement or something like that like

[01:25:13] oh my god

[01:25:16] you can go to play it

[01:25:19] oh yeah

[01:25:20] yeah

[01:25:21] we're looking to our show

[01:25:23] yeah

[01:25:26] but um I mean we were all thinking it

[01:25:29] yeah I mean

[01:25:31] well when Mikey brought up the realism stuff like I immediately went to like oh he has her in a

[01:25:35] basement somewhere in a card trunk or something

[01:25:38] not good

[01:25:39] or in the corner of the same room that he's as he's typing this all up and she's just like

[01:25:44] got like red duct tape over her face like she's like

[01:25:52] yeah no you gotta go like full

[01:25:53] like another town over but he's like I have to do it it's my thing now

[01:25:58] it's like I've become fully I am I am the red man

[01:26:02] I am red man

[01:26:06] but yeah so I guess with that onto final thoughts

[01:26:11] yeah um lots of material here for a for a creepy new monster and mystery to throw at players

[01:26:18] in a in a game scenario but is this itself a good creepypasta

[01:26:24] well it certainly plays on the tropes of early to mid internet horror 101 which no surprise

[01:26:33] it seems like marseys or even an even a Mayan Hazel if they are involved

[01:26:39] um from what I've seen of their stuff uh it's very likely that this whole thing is a tribute

[01:26:45] to or nod to those earlier creepypasta days

[01:26:48] um the size of it and the format of it like this neo city site and this like the story

[01:26:55] and the visuals and stuff like that makes it very

[01:26:58] makes it easily digestible and while it's not well initially while it's not super creepy

[01:27:06] there is an eerieness to the imagery that we get and and the the the story arc itself

[01:27:15] and it has this eerie familiarity for those of us who hang out a little too much online

[01:27:22] and to me anyway it almost kind of had a bit of a comfort horror to it if that makes sense like

[01:27:29] it's it's the kind of horror that I that I read and I I get nostalgic for um because it's the kind

[01:27:35] of stuff like it wraps up so many tropes in it yeah it wraps up so many tropes of stories that I was

[01:27:40] that I I have fond memories of like getting like linked to me by friends and so even

[01:27:46] hell the story itself like redmond was linked to me by a friend yeah and I decided to do this one

[01:27:51] on the show um so it's like yeah it's it's it's it's like why someone you've never met in person though

[01:27:57] I have met Matt we hung out at a jen con a couple of times

[01:28:07] so like every couple of years like it's a see I get to meet him

[01:28:11] but yeah like it's sort of like uh this this whole story for me it felt very like comfort food

[01:28:17] kind of horror like I really like I really enjoyed the read and I I really kind of dug the me falling

[01:28:24] down a rabbit hole like I wasn't like fall like I was like I fell down the rabbit hole like Alice

[01:28:33] to like the different videos and like the different little things and like trying to

[01:28:37] it was like trying to piece a little mini mystery I was like who who actually made this

[01:28:42] and then like fine and then like with with Matt's aid like finding like that it was um just

[01:28:47] mark css who's connected to may and hazel from their respective youtube channels um so yeah um

[01:28:56] I think that's that's why i'm willing to recommend this all in all is like it's very

[01:29:02] it feels like coming home uh in a weird creepy way a weird spooky way

[01:29:10] that only horror fans I think can kind of relate to like yeah we've got thing and like you kind

[01:29:15] it feels very familial the tropes the tropes are all very familiar the situations very familial

[01:29:22] and so it kind of it presses a bunch of buttons I guess in my head

[01:29:27] so that's why i'm willing to that's why i want to recommend it

[01:29:31] Mikey these stands for evil

[01:29:34] all right um so originally was not recommending this

[01:29:41] is it but then that's because um the whole I hadn't

[01:29:48] clued into the discord side of things and how creepy the ending truly is

[01:29:53] actually came up with that on the spot after staring at the photo for a little bit and be like

[01:30:00] what what is that from and they're looking at discord oh okay um so i originally got

[01:30:10] more of a um i want to say xbox vibe so you know when in the old days when we had friends on

[01:30:20] xbox 360 and then you check their profile on xbox one and they haven't been online in like 10 years

[01:30:29] yeah um yeah i was getting that sort of vibe initially okay it's like what she she just moved on

[01:30:37] like that there's nothing you can do buddy um but by doing my own digging of this story

[01:30:50] and finding that it was actually him being more of a stalker and more creepy

[01:30:55] I am actually going to up my recommendation as a partial recommendation because

[01:31:02] yeah i'm gonna get changed from Mikey yeah

[01:31:11] nothing I think bad with your opinions or anything but like the fact that you

[01:31:16] you've changed it is very like it's very interesting it's very unique

[01:31:21] it's not on brand for you no yeah you're using pretty adam with it but like no i

[01:31:25] i refuse to write that i refuse to change my opinion

[01:31:31] why partial

[01:31:34] uh because the grammar is still horrendous um that's definitely you'll die on yeah okay

[01:31:49] all right um and then i guess uh gamer your final recommendation

[01:31:52] but i guess so i came into this being like it's okay but i was like and because you know like

[01:32:00] i've i've read that my fair share of creepyposses at this point were on episode what 400 and something

[01:32:06] 515 yeah i haven't read i haven't been there since episode one but i've still read my fair share

[01:32:12] and like i read stories that are like this and like that and like that aspect is like this which

[01:32:18] is why you brought up all the tropes and stuff where it can be good but it's also

[01:32:23] it can be it like a trap if you just try to make a trophy story yeah it can be a doc from doing

[01:32:29] anything new you know um and that was kind of my worry with it because it was just like okay that's

[01:32:36] like that trip that's like that trope whatever um but as we got on to our discussion and the

[01:32:44] the revelation that this could be either a buddy horror with a supernatural entity

[01:32:51] that is basically just um a digital cupid bringing people together but and he's helping

[01:32:58] i'm helping yeah it's like those uh lovecrafting creatures that are actually trying to help and

[01:33:03] they don't understand why humans are screaming when they're trying to help them because they don't

[01:33:08] understand humans um and that's cool and then it's so that's cute and

[01:33:16] he's got like Hitler from that's why i changed it so that's cute yeah we could be brothers

[01:33:25] almost like we should finish each other's balls so yes so it's fine speaking of balls this

[01:33:32] has nothing to do with balls so and then when Mikey brought up his revelation of oh that is a note

[01:33:42] that you put in yourself there what did you do you know yeah that really cemented this home as

[01:33:53] to help for me for how much of a creepy real life horror this is at least could be yeah is in my

[01:34:02] opinion because it's literally there you can see how it is because there's factual evidence that

[01:34:10] it's right there because the note and yes call this you did bring up that it's possible that a

[01:34:14] hacker could have went in and changed that however um nair would have known that that happened

[01:34:21] and been like i didn't write that they would have said that you know oh no i wasn't saying like um

[01:34:27] like a hacker i was saying like a supernatural thing was just like it's just starts ghost writing

[01:34:32] well either way hacker or supernatural hacker doesn't matter um nair maybe that's here's the

[01:34:38] screenshot but i didn't write that you know or maybe nair doesn't nair didn't notice that

[01:34:43] that was there maybe although i feel like if it was like if it wasn't like that it was you know i

[01:34:48] feel like actually what might have been interesting if that was the case that it should have been in

[01:34:53] red red text yeah i don't know if you could change the color of that though i know but i mean you

[01:35:00] can do that in photoshop like you get like for the sake of the story itself like that that way

[01:35:04] it makes it seem like it's supernatural because it's like i found you it's all red text yes if it was

[01:35:10] weird like that yeah it would be more supernatural but because it's plain text plain white text like

[01:35:15] you would write yourself it's making me wonder if it's actually there that's a bad guy

[01:35:22] yeah you're a bad person who knows um but all in all that's a long way of saying i'd like to

[01:35:29] story i just there's there's a couple ways you can view it if you want to view it as um real life

[01:35:37] or you can and you'll hate it um if you want to view the supernatural order you'll love it and

[01:35:42] you'll hate it um like i'm not saying it's good and bad i'm saying you'll love that you hate it

[01:35:49] it's good one way or another depending on regardless of how you view it but if you go in here expecting

[01:35:56] to be scared and you view it as a supernatural safety blanket that doesn't scare you you're not

[01:36:01] gonna like it but if you see it for the real world horror that it may or may not be that will probably

[01:36:06] scare you regardless so it has the potential to actually be scary which um people don't usually do

[01:36:13] these days like they're normally like i'm down for an act i'm down for an act of art just like

[01:36:21] there's creepy shit happening i'm gonna go punch in face or whatever and yeah that's fine but yeah

[01:36:26] i feel like sorry not not to get job um yeah i feel like uh i think that might be a case of like

[01:36:33] the stories that we've been covering lately have been very like the the player or the um the

[01:36:39] protagonist has been a little bit more proactive in like trying to stop whatever or dealing with

[01:36:43] whatever's uh attacking them whereas a lot of time like a lot of the classic stuff is like no

[01:36:48] the character uh is either captured and like or they or they we don't get to find out the resolution

[01:36:55] and that's often scarier because we don't know if they fail victim to the monster or the horror of

[01:37:01] the story or or what have you yeah that's pretty much the end of my final thoughts it say i'll

[01:37:09] i'll bump up my partial two-of-a-four recommendation because i was scared

[01:37:20] is this what you guys feel like when like when i change my recommendation down or something

[01:37:25] sometimes wow we always talk down no no i'm being i'm doing this for a goof yeah

[01:37:34] there's been a couple times where you didn't like the story we like things for you

[01:37:37] yeah but um wow yeah so um a partial recommendation and two full recommendations

[01:37:46] um yeah and yeah that'll do it for this week's episode if you like what you heard or if you

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