ADR - Episode 512: The Gristers

[00:00:00] Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis! I am Review Cultist.

[00:00:22] I'm Mikey, the East Hand Feevel, and I'm the Gamer in Yellow.

[00:00:26] And we're here to discuss those internet stories, most creepy and most pasta, and be critically

[00:00:30] silly doing it.

[00:00:31] Tonight we have the Gristers.

[00:00:35] So the Gristers is by an unknown author.

[00:00:39] I believe it was originally posted on one of the X threads of 4chan way back when.

[00:00:45] But it has since been archived on Creepost.wiki, which is where we have acquired it to read.

[00:00:55] And yeah, before we get too far ahead of ourselves, let's give our initial recommendations.

[00:01:00] I'm going to conditionally recommend it and you will find out why after.

[00:01:06] I am not going to recommend this.

[00:01:09] Okay.

[00:01:10] Give it a partial for now.

[00:01:12] Interesting.

[00:01:14] Well, let's find out why exactly we give those initial recommendations and see if that

[00:01:18] changes over the course of this discussion.

[00:01:21] And with the rundown, featuring the rock.

[00:01:25] I'm not really.

[00:01:26] I'm going to use Nair because we don't get a name.

[00:01:31] So Nair is sending this out to X thread on 4chan or any other online place.

[00:01:37] It comes across as a warning to not read Creepie Postas or consume horror media in general

[00:01:45] really.

[00:01:46] The reason for this is because about a year ago, while reading Creepostas late at night

[00:01:51] and getting a bit spooked, a small pale humanoid appeared in their apartment and skittered

[00:01:56] about before going down the drain.

[00:02:01] After that, they couldn't stop seeing these little creatures everywhere and with varying

[00:02:06] sizes.

[00:02:09] He went online and brought it up on the on 4chan and it was similarly dismissed by all.

[00:02:16] Say for one guy named John, John had also seen these creatures and called them the titular

[00:02:22] gristers which were was potentially derived from the meme of the grifter but then the name

[00:02:29] just stuck to gristers.

[00:02:31] And for a while, they kept in touch, monitoring the gristers' behaviors.

[00:02:36] For the most part, these creatures were non-aggressive simply just being there out in the world

[00:02:43] around Nair and John and then being the only ones that could see them or even noticed

[00:02:50] them.

[00:02:51] These creatures could even camouflage, it seems almost like one was spotted walking around

[00:02:57] a park and people were just treating as if it was a dog but Nair saw it as one of these

[00:03:03] Creepie pale humanoid creatures.

[00:03:09] But then one day, Nair was passing a dilapidated brick house and spotted a large number of

[00:03:15] these creatures next to a much larger moaning grister in the alley next to the house.

[00:03:22] Nair had been wanting to take a photo as evidence of these creatures but they had always

[00:03:27] been too quick when he pulled out his camera.

[00:03:31] So seeing that there's a massive slow one there as an opportunity, he did take a picture

[00:03:37] of it and immediately regretted it.

[00:03:40] The creatures all turned and glared at him and he just nope to fuck out of there.

[00:03:44] He was going to post the picture but John, who he had sent the photo first, got hold

[00:03:49] of him and told him not to do it.

[00:03:52] Apparently, the gristers near John had been getting more and more aggressive toward him

[00:03:56] and he figured out it was probably because they didn't like all the attention they were

[00:04:01] getting from the people that could see them.

[00:04:04] Eventually, Nair discovers that John had committed suicide and that the house where he had taken

[00:04:10] the photo had at the time been the use of a horrid torture and rape dungeon by some psycho.

[00:04:19] And this is when Nair began posturing that the gristers actually feed on fear as the survivors

[00:04:26] of that horrid place had supposedly been hallucinating little people and just given

[00:04:33] the amount of gristers and their behavior near the building, it sort of all added up to

[00:04:38] them.

[00:04:39] After all, he had been getting spooked by creepypasta's when he first encountered the gristers.

[00:04:46] The creatures soon became hostile to Nair and he realized that maybe John hadn't actually

[00:04:53] committed suicide but these things had been responsible for that.

[00:04:57] And now Nair would soon meet a similar fate.

[00:05:01] That's why he wrote this story or this account and is posting it online to warn about getting

[00:05:09] scared and reading creepypastas or the gristers will get you.

[00:05:15] Finn.

[00:05:17] So that was basically the gist of the gristers.

[00:05:23] Suppose now we shall move on to everyone tolerance of grahamming positions at this point.

[00:05:30] I've got a number of them.

[00:05:33] Okay, so I'll start with this one here.

[00:05:37] Okay, X, comma or whatever creepyboard this makes it its way onto.

[00:05:42] I put it here because I thought it had get to the most people to whom it was relevant.

[00:05:49] So on and two should probably be combined to be on to but more importantly, I think is

[00:05:59] right after on to there should be a comma to kind of like help break up the sentence

[00:06:04] a little bit or so you like at least have a small break.

[00:06:07] Yeah, because right now it's makes this way onto I put it there.

[00:06:11] Yeah, exactly.

[00:06:12] Yeah.

[00:06:13] And then I'll move on to the next thing I have about a year ago, I was up at three in

[00:06:20] the morning, you know, that part of the night where you're so deep into it, it feels

[00:06:27] like it will never end.

[00:06:29] So I feel like there should be a semicolon, thanks Jess, or per or a period where the comma

[00:06:38] is after morning and then place that comma between the two, uh, between the two it's near

[00:06:47] the end.

[00:06:48] So it should be about a year ago, I was up at three in the morning, semicolon.

[00:06:55] You know that part of the night where you're so deep into it, comma, it feels like

[00:07:01] it will never end.

[00:07:02] I don't know if you need that extra comma at the end but the rest of it.

[00:07:06] Yeah.

[00:07:07] It's like, I don't know, it just seemed like there need to be some kind of a break because

[00:07:09] it was just basically saying so deep into it, it feels like it will never end.

[00:07:14] Like that's a lot of it needs a comma to break up those two it's.

[00:07:18] Yeah.

[00:07:19] Yeah.

[00:07:20] We're just changing the it to something else.

[00:07:23] Yeah, that's also true.

[00:07:24] Like there's three it's like two words apart from each other in the end of that set,

[00:07:29] at the end of that sentence.

[00:07:30] So I just don't know what you'd replace it with.

[00:07:34] Like maybe like you're so deep into the shit.

[00:07:37] It feels like it will never end.

[00:07:39] I don't know.

[00:07:40] The night.

[00:07:41] Yeah, maybe we're going to be late at night.

[00:07:43] Yeah.

[00:07:44] And how like and like I get what they're saying because it's like when you're late at

[00:07:48] night and like you're two you're too awake at it's too late at night that you're still

[00:07:54] you're just you're still too awake to be going to sleep, caffeine or like it's it's

[00:07:59] already like too late.

[00:08:00] You might as well just stay awake, caffeine.

[00:08:03] Yeah.

[00:08:04] But I'll move on to the next thing I have my bedroom door opens up onto the kitchen.

[00:08:09] Think it should be my bedroom door opens up into the kitchen.

[00:08:14] Um.

[00:08:15] Potato potato.

[00:08:17] I to me like onto it like it's more like my bedroom door opens up onto the deck.

[00:08:22] Like it goes on to outside whereas onto the kitchen for me that like into the kitchen

[00:08:27] makes more sense for like an interior setting.

[00:08:29] Yeah, it makes sense to me.

[00:08:31] It works either way for me but it makes more sense that way for both of you than I suppose

[00:08:36] that's right.

[00:08:37] Fair enough.

[00:08:38] Jury rules.

[00:08:39] Okay.

[00:08:40] Um, move on to the next one I have.

[00:08:44] It was pitch black.

[00:08:46] The moonlight gleaming off the linoleum, the linoleum.

[00:08:50] Feel like it should say it was pitch black save for the moonlight gleaming off the the

[00:08:57] the the linoleum.

[00:08:58] The linoleum.

[00:08:59] Yeah, I guess because it was pitch black.

[00:09:02] The moonlight wait.

[00:09:04] Yeah, I have that in an actual thought because it's just yeah, it's like there's no light,

[00:09:12] but there was light.

[00:09:13] Yeah, what?

[00:09:15] Yeah, it definitely like one word would save that entirely.

[00:09:22] From a bunch of chuckle fox critiquing it online.

[00:09:27] But I'll move on to the next thing I have.

[00:09:30] I strained my ears and listened period.

[00:09:33] I heard nothing period.

[00:09:36] So maybe maybe take these two sentences and combine them and then just have that period

[00:09:41] in the middle there like I strained my ears and listened ellipses.

[00:09:47] I heard nothing.

[00:09:49] Yeah, that's why I was going to sit joes.

[00:09:50] Yeah, there's a couple of times in the story where I'm like, I understand that you're

[00:09:56] using the punctuation.

[00:09:57] In fact, actually, my next thing is this coming up for that.

[00:10:00] Um, so my next thing is uh, I throw the shower, portraying open.

[00:10:06] Sorry.

[00:10:07] Uh, I think it needs or cut train.

[00:10:10] So I think it should be, uh, obviously needs to be, uh, I open, uh, I throw the shower

[00:10:15] curtain open.

[00:10:17] Um, and also this whole section like around this sentence as well.

[00:10:22] And this is what I was getting at just a minute ago.

[00:10:24] Um, there's just a lot of really short, poignant sentences like often only one word.

[00:10:31] And clearly this is this jot form writing is for punctuation or it's for punctuating

[00:10:37] the character's survey of the area that he's like looking for round in and such.

[00:10:42] Though perhaps some merging of these short sentences with like commas or ellipses could

[00:10:49] be just as effective rather than constantly having just these like super jot form like periods

[00:10:55] everywhere.

[00:10:56] Uh-huh.

[00:10:58] Um, but I'll move on to the next thing I have.

[00:11:04] I was about to go back to bed when I thought on a whim to use my broom to poke behind

[00:11:14] the toilet between the wall and the base of the seat.

[00:11:18] So just simple mistake, um, but I think it should be, uh, when I thought on a whim.

[00:11:25] You've never found before?

[00:11:27] I never thought.

[00:11:28] I found all the time.

[00:11:30] I found on a whim.

[00:11:32] Yeah.

[00:11:33] Uh, but I'll move on to the next thing.

[00:11:35] It wasn't anything special and it didn't even get that many responses before falling of

[00:11:41] the boards.

[00:11:42] So it should be before falling off the board.

[00:11:44] So just missing that one F there.

[00:11:48] And the next one he had no idea what the were and he hadn't figured out their behavior yet.

[00:11:56] So obviously it's just missing a why there.

[00:11:58] So it should be he had no idea what they were.

[00:12:03] And my next one.

[00:12:07] What made me decide to investigate?

[00:12:09] I don't know period.

[00:12:11] No, I don't know period morbid curiosity period.

[00:12:15] So it's just like it's answering like you first off you're answering the question which

[00:12:21] I don't think you really want to answer that question like in like like what so I feel

[00:12:27] like it should actually read more like this.

[00:12:31] What made me decide to investigate?

[00:12:33] Question mark.

[00:12:34] I don't know comma morbid curiosity question mark like just to kind of give us a question

[00:12:40] mark though.

[00:12:41] No, it was both period there's like I don't know period morbid curiosity period.

[00:12:45] So it should definitely be question mark.

[00:12:49] And then my next one here this is the second last one I have.

[00:12:56] I didn't notice any behavior changes or no sorry I didn't know any behavior change right

[00:13:01] away.

[00:13:02] I feel like maybe it should be I didn't notice any behavioral change right away changes.

[00:13:07] Just yeah or yeah behavioral changes I'd even accept to let's just have they change

[00:13:12] in their behavior.

[00:13:13] Yeah, you could do that as well.

[00:13:16] But as is it doesn't really it doesn't really read well.

[00:13:22] And the next one my last one I was beginning to think that John's problem was his own

[00:13:28] thing and that the gristers didn't know or didn't care that I could see them.

[00:13:35] So that first thing there should actually be a think I was being to think that John's

[00:13:40] problem was his own thing.

[00:13:42] Yes.

[00:13:45] And that is the end of my grammar and position.

[00:13:48] So Mikey these stands for evil what do you got?

[00:13:52] I did well so all that I have got to the conjunction junction.

[00:13:59] And next up conjunction junction but well let me explain.

[00:14:05] But then I glanced on my bed and my cat is there.

[00:14:10] It was pitch black the moonlight glimming off to the no.

[00:14:15] It was just random house noises right?

[00:14:19] Or maybe a fucking mouse in the walls.

[00:14:24] And I saw something scatter across the linoleum in the kitchen heading for the bathroom.

[00:14:33] It was small but it was definitely not a rat.

[00:14:38] And the way it moved it moved quickly but so awkwardly.

[00:14:44] So you know I basically freeze for like 10 minutes.

[00:14:51] It was the size of the thing that convinced me to move.

[00:14:57] It couldn't have been that dangerous right?

[00:15:02] So I pop open the bathroom door.

[00:15:06] It definitely had four lips maybe it was a big ass spider who had lost four of its legs

[00:15:13] somehow.

[00:15:16] It was good enough for me.

[00:15:19] It looked like a tiny human.

[00:15:22] It was pale white pale as a megged with dirty gray streaks running along its skin.

[00:15:32] It moved on all fours with long thin fingers that grasped the ground.

[00:15:41] Its skull was completely bald and it had no eyes.

[00:15:45] And the skin looked like it had been torn away from the lower half of its face, leaving

[00:15:51] the exposed teeth and gums.

[00:15:55] It looked up at me.

[00:15:57] Well pointed its face in my general direction anyway, and then scurried quick as fuck up the

[00:16:04] side of the bath and down into the drain.

[00:16:09] It moved in quick bursts like a spider and climbed straight up smooth surfaces like one

[00:16:16] two.

[00:16:19] Or even tell any of my friends.

[00:16:23] It's not like they'd believe me.

[00:16:27] So what did I do?

[00:16:30] It wasn't anything special and it didn't even get that many responses before falling

[00:16:36] of the boards.

[00:16:39] But besides from all the OP is a fake and sage responses, there was one other one.

[00:16:48] So I emailed this kid, right?

[00:16:52] But he said some got pretty big and not all of them looked exactly the same.

[00:17:01] But over the next week and those that followed, I found that I did get used to them.

[00:17:09] But either way as the weeks were on, I became more and more used to them.

[00:17:16] But they weren't really doing anything harmful.

[00:17:22] It was hard to tell over the text, but really that was the only way to put it.

[00:17:33] But we started discussing, Rister behavior and he said his were starting to act a bit

[00:17:45] more differently than the ones I saw.

[00:17:49] But no one came forward.

[00:17:52] But I have an inquisitive mind.

[00:17:57] So I approached the side of the house, noting that the windows were boarded up.

[00:18:04] It was a low creaking, gurgling sound.

[00:18:09] It didn't sound like any fucking animal I knew.

[00:18:14] So I snuck down the alley and when I saw what was making the noise, I nearly pissed myself.

[00:18:23] It was a fat humongous grister, at least 8 feet wide, completely unable to move with

[00:18:30] rolls of fat hanging down over its leg.

[00:18:36] It had no neck, just 14 chins leading up to its macabre exposed jaw.

[00:18:46] It rubbed itself with a pudgy claw, making that groaning, gurgling sound which seemed almost

[00:18:54] sexual.

[00:18:56] It was terrible.

[00:18:59] But in the presence of the thing, all I felt was a sick revulsion and disgust.

[00:19:07] But I kept in mind one thing that I had been looking for a picture of these things.

[00:19:18] So I busted out my camera phone and snapped a picture.

[00:19:24] And they didn't like it.

[00:19:27] And now I was pretty sure they knew I could see them too.

[00:19:33] So what did I do?

[00:19:38] And then things started happening so fast.

[00:19:44] It was a terrible fucking story, but one of the things one of the survivors said released

[00:19:52] struck me.

[00:19:55] And the gristers had been all over the place.

[00:20:00] And when I first saw one, I had been reading creepypasta and pretty freaked out.

[00:20:11] It was the last time I will ever go out.

[00:20:16] And out of nowhere, a grister, the size of a normal human just bent over and walking

[00:20:24] their weird, lopping gate slammed into the back of a woman next to me and threw her in

[00:20:31] front of the bus.

[00:20:34] And that's when I finally realized why there wasn't anyone I could really talk to about

[00:20:41] gristers.

[00:20:43] And eventually they figured out that you can see them.

[00:20:50] And they start fucking with you.

[00:20:55] And I don't think everyone who they kill is driven to suicide.

[00:21:03] And X, I'm convinced there was nothing special about John and me.

[00:21:11] It's about three in the morning.

[00:21:15] It sounds like a really big one is outside of my apartment door.

[00:21:20] It sounds like it's trying to nod its way through the wood.

[00:21:25] And so I'm taking the easy way out.

[00:21:30] So please, but you've got to stop.

[00:21:35] And if you don't stop reading at least please.

[00:21:43] Please, I got to say like I was looking for something funny and disjointed from this.

[00:21:54] And all I got was like, this is just a really succinct, albeit kind of a little bit like

[00:22:01] disjointed paraphrasing of the story.

[00:22:04] Pretty much.

[00:22:05] There were like large segments which I think you just read it verbatim because there's

[00:22:09] so many.

[00:22:10] It's an answer.

[00:22:11] Pretty sentences one after another that started with words that they probably shouldn't

[00:22:15] like it's in their butts because there's always better words.

[00:22:17] Oh, next thing way.

[00:22:18] Yeah.

[00:22:19] Because that's what I think roll.

[00:22:21] That's what Mike he does these little stories that sometimes show up with the layers

[00:22:26] or something.

[00:22:27] The one I got early on was like, he was referring to like how dark it was and then it's

[00:22:33] like it was the cat and then it was the like the light shown off of its looks.

[00:22:39] It's like the cat is made out of linoleum.

[00:22:40] Oh, thank you.

[00:22:41] The worst words cat is what I got out of that basically.

[00:22:46] Yes.

[00:22:47] All right.

[00:22:48] Gamer, do we have a grammar in yellow?

[00:22:56] A little bit.

[00:22:57] Also while you're doing that, we have some good news I had to share after when we get back

[00:23:04] or when we finish recording that I just found out.

[00:23:09] You're going to like leave me waiting the whole time.

[00:23:13] I said, after the recording.

[00:23:14] It's like an hour from now.

[00:23:19] Fine.

[00:23:20] I don't know what it is exactly.

[00:23:24] I don't pretend to know everything that's going on and in fact, I myself used to be drawn

[00:23:29] to the more realistic non-supernatural creepyposses but well, let me explain.

[00:23:34] So for me, that's a bit of a run on because I can't do that except for the butt, well,

[00:23:38] let me explain is all one sentence.

[00:23:42] Yes, sir.

[00:23:44] Personally, I would end it with a period in the middle and then connect the last tiny bit

[00:23:47] of a sentence which the last sentence is just what ellipses will let me explain.

[00:23:52] I'll just connect that into the second part of the sentence that you're making because

[00:23:57] it feels incomplete without it.

[00:24:01] Also I feel like saying, I won't pretend compared to don't pretend feels better since this

[00:24:07] is the start of the story and they're saying that they won't act like they know what's

[00:24:11] going on.

[00:24:13] Yeah.

[00:24:15] So I ask you if I don't pretend or I won't pretend it could go either way for me

[00:24:20] honestly but I get you.

[00:24:23] I don't pretend sounds like you didn't pretend but you might pretend that you know

[00:24:27] what's going on now.

[00:24:29] But saying you won't pretend says like throughout this entire story, I'm not going to pretend

[00:24:35] and I know what the hell is going on.

[00:24:37] Okay, again, to me that's like potato potato.

[00:24:39] Sorry.

[00:24:40] Once past tense, once current tense basically.

[00:24:44] Fair, yeah.

[00:24:45] Either way.

[00:24:46] Yeah.

[00:24:47] So the rewriting of that would be, I don't know what it is exactly and I won't pretend

[00:24:51] to know everything that's going on period.

[00:24:53] In fact, I myself used to be drawn to the more realistic non supernatural creepypuses but

[00:24:58] well, let me explain.

[00:25:00] Okay, two sentences instead of one super long one one super tiny one.

[00:25:05] Yep.

[00:25:06] And then this next one.

[00:25:10] So you know, I basically freeze for like 10 minutes.

[00:25:15] I think it should be froze because this is past tense.

[00:25:18] Yeah.

[00:25:19] There's a lot of here.

[00:25:21] Here's the weird thing I didn't have a tense talk with this one because the way he writes

[00:25:25] it, I just kind of heard it in my head like as somebody narrating it to me audibly is

[00:25:32] just like, so I'm here and I'm doing this thing and like that kind of thing where it's

[00:25:36] like, it's not right technically in writing but when you hear that, it felt like a conversation.

[00:25:43] It felt like it felt like a story being told to me not so much maybe like in the writing

[00:25:47] and not so much like me actually reading it.

[00:25:50] Fair, but it's a retelling of past events.

[00:25:53] Fair, yes.

[00:25:55] That's why I suggested that.

[00:25:56] That's fair.

[00:25:57] Yeah.

[00:25:58] So you have a tense talk today?

[00:26:00] I do, yes.

[00:26:03] But I'll move on from there.

[00:26:06] This is at the end of a paragraph basically goes on saying, but he also told me one other

[00:26:11] thing period that goes to a new paragraph that I'd be seeing more of him of them and

[00:26:17] he said that ever since he saw the first one, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:26:21] So the problem here is like I don't like the paragraph break because it's in the middle

[00:26:25] of a line of thought.

[00:26:28] Okay, yeah.

[00:26:30] Yeah.

[00:26:31] I'd rather the paragraph be a bit bigger than break up, break it up just because of a word

[00:26:37] counter.

[00:26:38] Something that per paragraph.

[00:26:39] Yeah, like paragraphs don't have to follow like a strict like word count.

[00:26:44] They can be a little bit longer if needed.

[00:26:46] Yeah.

[00:26:47] Like it's literally in the middle of a thought and it breaks it.

[00:26:53] Yeah.

[00:26:55] And then my last one is another bit of run on here.

[00:27:00] He said that usually when he saw them or hurt them in his own home, he was reading

[00:27:04] creepypasta so they usually freaked him out something awful but he said again, he had

[00:27:09] never actually seen them do anything terrible just scurry out of sight.

[00:27:13] That's all one sentence.

[00:27:14] Yeah.

[00:27:15] It's a little bit long if you don't break it up, but that's the end of my grammar in

[00:27:38] yellow.

[00:27:39] All right.

[00:27:40] Well then on to actual thoughts.

[00:27:42] Which where the cultist felt very seen.

[00:27:47] And I will dive into that now.

[00:27:53] If you are one of those people who were inherently drawn to horror, you're in real danger.

[00:27:59] Damn it.

[00:28:00] Oh well.

[00:28:01] And the next thing anyway, I was up clicking around looking for a good creepypasta.

[00:28:10] I hadn't read before really getting myself freaked out.

[00:28:14] You know the feeling or you know the feeling, I'm sure.

[00:28:17] I read that really weirdly.

[00:28:21] You know the feeling, I'm sure you like the feeling.

[00:28:24] That's the problem.

[00:28:25] I'm feeling awfully seen in this story right off the get go.

[00:28:31] And it's funny.

[00:28:32] Like as I was reading this story, like as we're getting into like the meat of it where

[00:28:35] like the creature and I was kind of getting the idea already like before they even brought

[00:28:38] up at the very end that the grister's feet on fear and stuff.

[00:28:42] There was a moment when I was reading this story where I heard some like some house noises

[00:28:47] behind me as I was reading this in the dark at night.

[00:28:52] And I looked back, I was like you know I say that I'd like to die immersed in creepypasta

[00:28:58] but I don't want to die yet.

[00:29:00] No.

[00:29:01] We've recorded it.

[00:29:02] Yeah.

[00:29:04] But yeah, I'll move on to the next thing I have which is the description that we get

[00:29:09] of the creatures.

[00:29:12] It was pale white, pale as a maggot with dirty gray streaks running along its skin.

[00:29:17] It moved on all fours with long thin fingers that grasped the ground.

[00:29:22] Its skull was completely bald and it had no eyes and the skin looked like it had been torn

[00:29:29] away from the lower half of its face leaving the exposed teeth and gums.

[00:29:34] It looked up at me, well pointed its face in my general direction anyway.

[00:29:41] And so yeah.

[00:29:44] Well pointed its face in my general direction anyway and then scurried quickly as fuck

[00:29:51] up the side of the bath and down into the drain.

[00:29:56] I just really love this description of the creature.

[00:29:59] For me it really paints a picture of this creature and it's something Gail Maudotoro

[00:30:07] might put in one of his dark fantasy or dark fairy tale sort of movies and narratives.

[00:30:14] This kind of brought to mind some of the designs that I've seen for like the creatures

[00:30:21] in the dark or even in the second Hellboy movie with the tooth fairies.

[00:30:27] Which are just like they're just teeth and skin against bone.

[00:30:36] These creatures really kind of brought to mind and also when you go into the troll market

[00:30:40] in Hellboy 2, a lot of this really invoked those kind of designs for creepy fairies

[00:30:47] or like creepy Vossen perhaps.

[00:30:52] And that's a nice segue to my next comment and my next quote in comments.

[00:30:58] He introduced himself as John and basically tells me everything and basically tells me

[00:31:05] a very similar story.

[00:31:07] One night a few months ago reading Creepypasta's, herda noise got up, saw the small pale man

[00:31:16] his was a bit bigger.

[00:31:19] He said it was the size of a cat but he also told me one other thing that I'd be seeing

[00:31:27] more of them.

[00:31:29] He said that every since he saw the first one, he's been seeing more and more of them

[00:31:35] out everywhere even in the street during the day.

[00:31:39] So I really feel like this would fit really well as a creature for a modern Vossen game.

[00:31:50] I know last year, 223 was the year of the Vossen.

[00:31:54] Well it's bleeding over into 24.

[00:31:58] But yeah so like I could really see myself like stouting this creature out as something

[00:32:02] in Vossen and even use it in modern day Vossen which is apparently a supplement that

[00:32:07] somebody did up on Drive Through RPG.

[00:32:11] So yeah you can use this creature as even like the first experience with a Vossen that

[00:32:17] gives the player character their sixth sense or their site which is like the weird ability

[00:32:25] that player characters kind of have to see the supernatural which sends the supernatural

[00:32:32] amongst others.

[00:32:33] And it's even mentioned I think actually my next quote about something similar to like

[00:32:39] where the character is the only one who sees the thing but it's like the rest of the

[00:32:42] population.

[00:32:43] Yeah that's exactly what this is written the same way that Vossen is like actually won't

[00:32:48] go on.

[00:32:49] Yeah this could basically be like the character you know like gamer or what was it in what

[00:32:54] do they call them like the your like that your dark see I think it's either your dark

[00:32:58] secret or something like that or like this could honestly be like a character's dark secret

[00:33:03] as like they saw Voss like they did something and counter to Vossen or something now they're

[00:33:08] being chased by it or something are they being stalked by by these by these little invisible

[00:33:13] Vossen.

[00:33:14] Yeah.

[00:33:15] Like that could be one of their dark troubles but yeah then the next quote I have is actually

[00:33:22] tied into that with I live in Providence Rhode Island which is a small city on my way

[00:33:28] to work one day I take the bus I was looking out the window and saw a pretty large one as

[00:33:34] large as a medium sized dog trotting around the sidewalk.

[00:33:37] People were just walking by it actually I think that a lot of people sought as a dog.

[00:33:43] One man stopped to scratch its head so yeah like basically this creature is using assuming

[00:33:49] our narrator isn't just going insane and just like seeing like animals as these creatures.

[00:33:57] If this is actually a supernatural creature that he's seeing and it's like living it's

[00:34:02] like walking out crawling and walking around in the public then these creatures have some

[00:34:09] kind of a glamour they can put on that makes people see them as like something mundane

[00:34:14] or like just like makes them disregard them.

[00:34:18] And only somebody like a Thursday child or somebody with a sight in Vossen terms can

[00:34:27] actually spot the or can see through the glamour.

[00:34:30] Thursday child?

[00:34:31] Yeah it's a term that's used in Vossen in the actual like in the core setting for Vossen

[00:34:37] as the people who see like creatures it's like something to do with like a nursery rhyme

[00:34:42] where like a Thursday child is something that somebody that is cursed I think I'd have

[00:34:46] to know if that's like if you're born on a Thursday you can see Vossen.

[00:34:50] It's not too far off honestly yeah.

[00:34:53] It's sort of like similar to like how a Sunday child is blessed because they're born on

[00:35:00] a holy day sort of thing.

[00:35:03] But yeah I think they're called Thursday children and that's basically like another name

[00:35:08] for people who have the second sight or like the ability to sense the supernatural in

[00:35:13] the Vossen series and the lore.

[00:35:18] Also cool Providence Road Island, Lovecraft's Old stomping grounds.

[00:35:23] Again this is kind of fitting more closely to like this is definitely something a Guillermo

[00:35:26] del Toro would put into one of his movies or write into a story.

[00:35:33] Who also really loves like fairy folks lore and Lovecraftian horror so moving on to the

[00:35:41] next thing I have yeah it was terrible.

[00:35:48] I know it doesn't sound like it and objectively I can think of I can think that a fat Cooing

[00:35:56] grister rubbing itself might sound pretty funny actually but in the presence of the thing

[00:36:03] all I felt was a sick revulsion and disgust.

[00:36:07] I really like how this story kind of addresses something that me and gamer have often argued

[00:36:13] about or at least had like conversations about regarding horror and like creepy events

[00:36:18] being also silly from a different point of view.

[00:36:22] Like you see sometimes like when we're reading these creep houses I see the thing as something

[00:36:26] creepy and so that and you're like this is why are you getting creeped up this is silly

[00:36:30] and this is very yeah decay mode yeah like I think decay mode would be horrifying especially

[00:36:35] if you like we're seeing it in in that moment but then you like because through your video

[00:36:40] game lens like no it's just silly decay mode.

[00:36:44] So it's interesting the story kind of has the self awareness to actually like address that

[00:36:49] like yes I know these things may sound silly like how I'm describing them and so I believe

[00:36:54] me like when you're actually there it's fucking terrifying yeah and I can kind of like

[00:36:59] that's kind of I think the difference is like it's and first off like tragedy and comedy

[00:37:05] are two sides the same coin like basically like creepiness and silliness are just two sides

[00:37:09] of the same coin and similarly like we can laugh at something when we don't when we're

[00:37:16] not in that scene like hell like people people try to like laugh off like horrible things

[00:37:21] that they experience after the fact after they've survived the situation as a way of coping.

[00:37:26] So like it's a similar thing it's sort of like a detachment like the detachment makes it

[00:37:30] silly but if you were actually there in that scene in that shit you would be fucking terrified

[00:37:36] and I like how the story actually kind of addresses that a little bit with this with this comment

[00:37:40] so then the next thing I have here is he said that he'd seen a lot more of the bigger ones

[00:37:50] hanging around his house at night they watched him through his windows they knew they knew he could

[00:37:58] see them and they didn't like it something something staring to the abyss something something

[00:38:03] and they best airs back at you like real like just kind of like like if you see some it once

[00:38:11] you see something it can see you and your and it may not like being able to see you and you may

[00:38:16] not like that you can see it. Um, uh, Ignorance is bliss in most cases. Yeah yeah and

[00:38:23] it actually touches on something that I'm going to bring up later is like from the I think

[00:38:27] the author of the story whoever they are may have had some inspiration by a certain person that

[00:38:34] I just referenced in a earlier comment. You mean, but no, no, no, um but I'll continue on down my

[00:38:44] my roster of notes and such. So this this reference the story does reference that these creatures are

[00:38:53] uh, they seem to be like they seem to manifest or they appear to the to people when you're most

[00:39:00] terrified like when he's reading cre when him and John were reading creopuses that's when they first

[00:39:04] encountered it. And then the survivors of the raped engine encounter the creatures um and because

[00:39:11] and are like seeing they seem to have seen some kind of hallucinations because they were sent

[00:39:16] to a mental hospital and like did the and the character uh, Naird even asked like did they see

[00:39:21] the gristers? And when I read this part I was like oh cool. They're they're phobophages or like

[00:39:27] feeders of fear like they're like kind of like Pennywise or um or uh or uh the phobophage from

[00:39:34] Dresden files where they they manifest around people like around instances of like great fear and

[00:39:41] and and and terror. Um so I kind of like that the fear is the mechanism that

[00:39:47] allows you to see them but like they also congregate to those areas because that's what they feed on

[00:39:51] emotionally that their emotion vampires kind of in a way. The restaurant is. Mm-hmm. I'll just go

[00:39:57] on to where the restaurant is. That's what they're feeding. Well, the food is. Yeah yeah basically

[00:40:02] yeah they're yeah they're going to the and that's why like the maybe that's why like uh because you're

[00:40:07] in that because you're also like in that catalyst like there's some kind of exchange maybe like between

[00:40:11] like them feeding on your fear and like then because like they basically open themselves up to like

[00:40:16] feed on your fear like you can see through the veil and then you're then you're kind of just

[00:40:20] you can't unsee it. So again more more fodder for the for the Boston idea of this. I'll just like

[00:40:27] making them phobophages and make making that like a catalyst or like having having um if for a scenario

[00:40:34] having victims like you have to investigate and like and look into the victims of something

[00:40:39] and where they were talking about like little like white people or a little pale people

[00:40:44] scurrying about um and like that's where you get those like of those scenes where like you get more

[00:40:49] information about the creatures is through the the victims. Mm-hmm. But I'll move on to the next thing

[00:40:56] I have here. Uh they were starting to scratch me and bite me in those few scant hours that I actually did

[00:41:05] not off to sleep. I'd always freak out and sweep them away and they'd just hiss at me. So this is

[00:41:13] this is I believe Nair like who's now like getting the same kind of treatment that John was getting

[00:41:17] when they started getting more like pervasive and aggressive toward him. Um and to this I'm like how

[00:41:23] exactly are they getting into his house like I would have assumed that Nair is taking precautions

[00:41:29] to keep them out. Um I mean maybe like obviously he probably can't like he can't like completely

[00:41:39] seal off his house without like you know dying of of suffocation. Like he can't meet he can't close

[00:41:44] off like can't like seal up the the the vents or yeah yeah you can't like seal the vents or

[00:41:50] anything like that because and which is something which is a way that these creatures have been

[00:41:52] known to go through like we think go through the drains then presumably they can go through the vents.

[00:41:58] But um yeah it's like I just kind of gave me this idea again maybe for some game-foughter ideas

[00:42:04] that maybe the creatures can actually go in caporeal or teleport when someone like their supernatural

[00:42:11] creatures yeah. So being weirded out that they keep getting in the house is the least of your

[00:42:17] worries. Well sometimes sometimes creatures like supernatural creatures don't have abilities like that

[00:42:21] they can just they're just small so they can get into places and stuff. But um my idea for this

[00:42:26] for if I was to make this into into a awesome thing is I would actually have it as a caveat is

[00:42:30] that they can teleport or or pass through walls to get into into a location but only if the person

[00:42:36] is asleep as long as there's somebody asleep in the next room in the room they're trying to get into

[00:42:41] they can pass through the walls or teleport to the into that room.

[00:42:46] Or only when like maybe within radius of someone that's scared? Yeah yeah that could also be it too

[00:42:54] like maybe just like the fear or well again because a lot of like time when you're sleeping um

[00:42:59] actually recently learned this um a lot of our dreams like a lot of the dreaming that we do when

[00:43:03] we're asleep most of the time they're nightmares it's just our brain um uh shields us from most of

[00:43:09] those dreams. So like basically we forget that's why we forget a lot of our dreams is most of

[00:43:14] the more nightmares that our brain tells us to forget and just like the more potent ones or

[00:43:20] the good ones are where we actually take control in the dream like for depending on like the

[00:43:23] stage of sleeping you're in that allows you to like not have a nightmare um but yeah so it's just an

[00:43:33] idea I came up with or I had as a result of like thinking is like how are these creatures exactly

[00:43:38] getting this guy's house but then it's like yeah they're supernatural creatures they can probably just

[00:43:42] pop in. They don't really have a rhyme or reason um plus there's been 50 of them that got in before

[00:43:51] he actually started burying his house. Yeah that's true yeah they do see it does seem like a situation

[00:43:57] where like they could even be like on a on a layer of reality just parallel to our own and it's not

[00:44:02] until like they are triggered by the fear response that they become like sort of able to like kind

[00:44:08] of phase back in and out from their their layer of reality to ours kind of thing.

[00:44:15] So yeah I'll move on to the next thing I have here um I saw her slide under the wheel of

[00:44:23] I saw her slide under the wheels of the bus I saw her blood and ruined organ squeeze out of her

[00:44:28] mouth like toothpaste. Uh uh apparently this is a luchio full chi film now um watch city of the

[00:44:38] living dead to understand what that means otherwise it's he's an Italian horror filmmaker from

[00:44:46] the 70s and 80s who did a lot of practical effects of people just like spuking out their own organs

[00:44:53] nice yeah um and then we move on to the rape dungeon or something connected to it.

[00:45:03] Uh read the reports of people who have been in terrible frightening situations like that rape

[00:45:09] dungeon or a war how many of them suffer from hallucinations sure a lot of them are actual hallucinations

[00:45:16] some of them are the gristers so I like this I like that the story plays a little bit with connecting

[00:45:24] these fear mongering monsters or creatures with some really heavy dark stuff but doesn't lean too far

[00:45:33] into that as some other materials tend to do to say it's all the monsters fault for these real world

[00:45:40] problems and issues like they aren't the cause of those things they're merely a symptom

[00:45:47] they take advantage of these situations for sustenance but they but it was already happening

[00:45:54] um in like it was happening for for real reasons for like real mundane and terrible reasons

[00:45:59] it wasn't all the monsters like there's there's a couple of franchises and a couple of like

[00:46:04] um a couple of like uh fictions and stuff of that that kind of go lean into that where it's like

[00:46:10] oh yeah world-world one was uh world world the world wars were all started by vampires

[00:46:15] or like this horrible atrocity in human history yeah where wolves and it's like that's so

[00:46:22] fucking like insensitive and disrespectful to like real like you can pull

[00:46:28] you can derive things from real history and and and like creepy shit from like real world stuff

[00:46:33] and add an element of supernatural but don't have the supernatural be the thing like even I know

[00:46:39] it's like in in fiction so that you can do that you can sometimes do that but it also just seems

[00:46:43] I like I always kind of have this we it's always for me it's always like a gray area when you do that

[00:46:47] because like don't do that that's a real thing that happens like real people

[00:46:54] live in real families yeah yeah like again like if it's historical if it's a historical event where

[00:47:00] there is a supernatural creature affiliated that's fine but like when you have the supernatural creature

[00:47:05] be the whole cloth cause of that thing um it just sort of like it's not a great look

[00:47:14] but I'll move on to the next thing the story using some heavy subjects uh like the rape and suicide

[00:47:21] bits in the story I don't think they're done too poorly it's but it is sometimes hard to judge

[00:47:28] what's tasteful when addressing these sort of things in fiction like I did notice at the end like

[00:47:35] it was really just kind of constantly referencing the suicide and the the rape dungeon thing was like

[00:47:41] I mean obviously that's it's horrible and saying it's tastefully done is kind of weird

[00:47:46] yeah I know what you mean though yeah like it's like going overboard with it

[00:47:51] yeah like he saw it in the news replay uh he saw it in a news report uh that what was happening

[00:47:56] and and kind of drew a conclusion because it was the same how it's that he had seen the the creatures

[00:48:00] like congregating near so like he brought that correlation that's fine but like if it had been

[00:48:06] gone into detail about like what happened there like that would be a little too over over the top

[00:48:10] and the with the suicide stuff it's just like it references a couple times and then it kept doing

[00:48:16] it and I was like hmm it's it's fine it's just I think it was mentioned too many times but oh

[00:48:22] bit yeah it's also weird that Nair basically not witnessed but knew that John

[00:48:32] quote unquote killed himself even though it was possibly the scriptures I did it but then

[00:48:38] Nair goes ahead and does it too like yeah like I guess like maybe like it's it's a little convoluted

[00:48:47] because like he's saying like maybe the creatures like like or he like John like because uh John's

[00:48:53] brother tells them that he killed himself that John killed himself and like he found then Nair

[00:48:58] found out that John had done it like by splitting his wrists in the tub right and so like okay that's

[00:49:03] and but then he started going as like well maybe the creatures um covered him like covered that up

[00:49:09] because they they could maybe they can do that kind of thing which was an interesting idea of like

[00:49:14] oh it was a cover-up by the monster to make it seem like again make them have a conspiratorial aspect

[00:49:19] to it but then he goes and does basically the same thing that John seemingly did yeah by the end

[00:49:25] or is insinuating to to about to do and just like so I'm getting mixed signals here

[00:49:34] yeah kind of expected Nair to be like I'm not gonna go with the way John did

[00:49:37] yeah like I would accept it's like I'm gonna it's like don't worry I'm gonna go out fighting

[00:49:42] yeah um it's like if you see if you've seen the news like some guy in my voice like come

[00:49:46] inside know that I didn't I went out fighting like that kind of like I would have expected someone

[00:49:51] like that but like then he just goes and basically prepares to come kill himself anyway so it's like uh

[00:50:02] maybe not the best um but I will move on to my last actual thought stuff

[00:50:12] stop reading creepypasta I know you love it I know you love frightening yourself

[00:50:17] but you've got to stop every time you read it every time you get the feeling of dread in your stomach

[00:50:24] you're drawing the gristers to you and if you don't stop reading at least please

[00:50:30] never check never check out those sounds in the house when you do

[00:50:35] well isn't this quite the predicament don't read creepypasta

[00:50:44] shit um honestly this this ending is very much in line with the classic campfire cautionary spooky tale

[00:50:55] like there's like an anti creepypasta creepypasta as well yeah it's sort of like an anti creepypasta

[00:51:00] but at the same time it's also it's very similar to like the kind of stories that you get from like

[00:51:05] like the uh the hook at lovers lane like don't go up to lovers lane or the hook is gonna get you

[00:51:10] or something like that like don't have premarital sex or Jason's gonna fucking kill you

[00:51:16] like it's that kind of campfire story or that kind of campfire that kind of tale and even to a degree

[00:51:22] this story to me rang as the author was a fan of lovecraft specifically um I mean aside from the

[00:51:29] fact that he references that the character lives in province road islands like lovecraft

[00:51:35] trumping grounds and birthplace um it I can see I can think of at least two stories from lovecraft

[00:51:43] off the top of my head where something like this ending actually kind of happens like in dagon or

[00:51:50] howie's most famous work the call of cthulhu both end with the writer slash narrator committing

[00:51:56] suicide as a last resort to escape what they have experienced or what is after them

[00:52:05] um leave and then and then like at the end of the story like saying that they're going to commit

[00:52:10] suicide to avoid the stuff and leaving a warning to not like do what they did to not search for

[00:52:16] the sanity destroying truth of the monster or what have you so I mean it is a whole trope

[00:52:24] like trope and motif in lovecraftian horror writing and it for me it oozed all over this story

[00:52:32] um like the whole like all the like lovecraftian horror kind of like was in this story to begin with

[00:52:37] like the whole ignorance is bliss in the face of an uncarrying terrifying universe

[00:52:42] so see I all this to say um I kind of like the ending because it kind of harkens back to like

[00:52:50] classic campfire story stuff and also lovecraft but I shall not be heating the story's warnings

[00:52:56] I will continue to read creepypasta's and get scary or get scared um but yeah

[00:53:05] Mikey these stands for evil what do you have for actual thoughts

[00:53:10] you've been off a quiet okay well there's ham ring going on time he did myself

[00:53:16] I'm not trying to get in all right so my first actual thought here is okay x which I

[00:53:29] immediately was triggered and I thought of okay boomer um okay it's a uh to meme like of uh

[00:53:38] uh basically boomer says something that has no relevance to millennials today and the millennial just

[00:53:47] says okay boomer like yeah I knew what the meme was but like okay that's interesting that you

[00:53:54] correlated okay x to okay boomer okay very often well it just like i'm used for half a second

[00:54:00] so i'm like ways is talking about x or the x thread on red oh yeah because well the story

[00:54:08] is putter now yeah I know I think the story was probably a

[00:54:12] brand new i think you saw twitter again yeah and that horse moving on yeah thanks

[00:54:20] yeah anyway um and then my next actual thought is the same thing but slightly different

[00:54:28] so it's completely different slightly different actually yeah but well let me explain no there's too much

[00:54:38] let me sum up it did this review the scene is like let me explain there's no time the movie will be

[00:54:45] over by time let me paraphrase or let me summarize well uh that what I just did was I mixed a quote

[00:54:55] from the story with a quote from the princess bride you know that's our yeah

[00:55:07] you got the reference but forgot the reference at the same time

[00:55:13] understood it you just didn't understand that he was already saying it yeah that's yeah

[00:55:18] so my next actual thought here is that either nair is going crazy or the gristers have was it glamors

[00:55:37] yeah but they're having fables so it makes them look like rats dogs and possibly human

[00:55:44] like the one that pushed the person in front of the bus yeah um so with that in mind it would be

[00:55:56] hilarious if the picture that he took of the fat one outside of the house was a crazy cat lady oh

[00:56:05] oh god yeah got because it had a fat one with small ones around it yeah or like in the picture

[00:56:14] it's just just of a crazy cat lady or like what if like the photo like showed partially like a crazy

[00:56:21] cat lady like like basically like the glamour was like only half worked on the camera like the camera

[00:56:26] reveals some of the truth because then um um it's an unbiased observer but so it's he it shows some of

[00:56:34] it but like not all or like maybe he does post it on on the forums but it just looks like a crazy

[00:56:40] cat lady everybody except for him and John when they look at the photo but like everybody else is like

[00:56:45] what the hell man like lol looks like you just took the picture of like some horrible like cat

[00:56:50] a cat lady orgy yeah I think I'd prefer that because then like it would leave you wondering if it's

[00:57:02] all just in their heads yeah because everyone else is saying no you're wrong yeah yeah gives that

[00:57:11] and then the big one that's trying to get into his house is the way just the landlord

[00:57:18] you have paid your rent oh god oh no oh no

[00:57:22] oh shhh shit back on look that makes it so much darker

[00:57:29] fuck

[00:57:37] hey

[00:57:38] that also means that the guy at the bus stop was that actually like either it was just

[00:57:43] um a piece of shit who like intentionally tried to kill somebody or just accidentally bumped

[00:57:49] into that woman so bad that like she fell in front of the bus.

[00:57:53] Yeah, yeah.

[00:57:54] And he just saw it as like a malicious grister.

[00:57:58] Mm-hmm.

[00:58:03] Yeah.

[00:58:04] I think you're refer, like this almost brings up to mind that movie we watched.

[00:58:09] Oh, I think last year or the year before they from West Craven.

[00:58:15] We're again like they, it's a bunch of people.

[00:58:18] The characters are like they think they're seeing like shadow people,

[00:58:21] but it could also all be in their head or it might be some weird creatures

[00:58:25] from another shadow dimension trying to get them.

[00:58:28] Okay.

[00:58:30] Yeah.

[00:58:32] Anyway, that was my actual cause.

[00:58:38] Okay.

[00:58:40] A gamer.

[00:58:42] In their reign.

[00:58:48] My first one is just me learning a word.

[00:58:50] I had managed myself for being such a fucking pussy.

[00:58:54] Never before, it's literally just to warn or reprimand.

[00:58:57] Yeah.

[00:58:59] I kind of assumed what it was based on the context that you look at up.

[00:59:03] And then we get into the timing situations here where this is in regards to

[00:59:09] their freezing quote unquote for like 10 minutes and then freezing for

[00:59:14] quote unquote a good five minutes.

[00:59:16] Yeah.

[00:59:17] I assume these are meant to be exaggerations.

[00:59:19] Clearly, yeah.

[00:59:22] Cause like I know there's some creepy events happening but put a 10 minute timer on that

[00:59:27] and that's a long time did not do anything.

[00:59:30] Yeah, I mean like it's it may have felt like five 10 meds,

[00:59:34] but it was probably like more like a few seconds or like maybe 30 seconds tops.

[00:59:38] Like yeah.

[00:59:39] Also, I'd say that this would make a bit more sense that these two times were

[00:59:43] reversed at least because as it stands, he got over the shock of seeing the creature

[00:59:48] in the light in full detail much quicker than just seeing its scurry across in the darkness.

[00:59:53] Yeah, he said he was in shock for 10 minutes when he saw the thing just scurrying in the dark.

[00:59:58] Yes.

[00:59:59] Yeah.

[01:00:00] Then when he saw it in full glory detail, a good five minutes and he's good.

[01:00:03] Yeah.

[01:00:04] So yeah, he was inoculated from the first from the first bout.

[01:00:07] Yeah, I don't know about that.

[01:00:10] First night reversed those and reduced them a bit.

[01:00:13] Okay.

[01:00:14] Couple of minutes and then a few minutes.

[01:00:16] Yeah.

[01:00:17] Cause if you say a couple and a few, it's a more vague when you're putting a number on it,

[01:00:20] you're trying to be more specific.

[01:00:22] Yeah.

[01:00:24] And then we get to this stuff when we talk about John.

[01:00:27] But he also told me one other thing that if you see more of them and that.

[01:00:31] Sorry, that'd be seeing more of them.

[01:00:33] He said that ever since it's on the first one, he'd be seeing more and more out of everywhere

[01:00:37] even in the street during the day, blah blah blah blah.

[01:00:39] So as much as I want to believe that this John fellow actually saw the same thing,

[01:00:46] he did just read Nair's entire story on the creature.

[01:00:50] So he could have easily just wanted to join in on the fun and either help add to the immersion

[01:00:57] of the story by commenting or simply wanted to fuck with Nair.

[01:01:02] I mean, to be fair, that's how a lot of creep early creep buses got started was somebody posted a photo

[01:01:09] and a little and a little blurb of a story on the X thread or one very or like I think it's unfiction.

[01:01:17] Or I think it's called unfiction forms or whatever.

[01:01:20] And that's when people would then start adding to it and so with that and making the creep

[01:01:25] bus or expanding the story and like it's sort of like a like people are like fucking with the person

[01:01:30] or they're playing along with the person stuff.

[01:01:33] So either way, the validity of John's story and facts is kind of suspect.

[01:01:41] Yeah.

[01:01:42] Then after basically hearing that stuff from John, he said I didn't sleep that night.

[01:01:49] We're over the next week as in those that followed, I found that I did get used to them.

[01:01:54] So for me reading that I was like, that was quick.

[01:01:57] I was kind of expecting a scene where Nair saw another one because we didn't get that scene where he saw the second one.

[01:02:05] He saw the first one and then it just glances, it just glazes over.

[01:02:09] Oh yeah, I saw much of them like I used to.

[01:02:12] Yeah.

[01:02:13] And like I just was expecting a scene where Nair saw the second one to validate what he saw the first time invalidate what John said.

[01:02:23] And that's why he couldn't sleep again, but it's just glossed over.

[01:02:28] Yeah, it is kind of weird.

[01:02:33] And then a little bit later on actually a lot later on I think I kept in mind one thing that I had been looking for a picture of these things.

[01:02:39] So I've busted out my camera phone and snapped a picture.

[01:02:42] I wish I hadn't if I hadn't I think I may have lasted a little longer.

[01:02:46] As soon as I read that I'm like lasted longer are you dead?

[01:02:50] I mean, he is going to be dead like because he's writing this.

[01:02:55] This basically his technically his suicide note.

[01:02:58] Yeah, I guess it is like was he writing this all in that last like a few minutes?

[01:03:03] Yeah, yeah, he's basically pulling a day gone where like the character writes up the entirety of the story up to the point where he's about to jump out the window to escape the monster trying to go into his house.

[01:03:13] And then my last one says I stopped sleeping didn't want to wake up to those things staring at me.

[01:03:21] I stopped eating too.

[01:03:23] Why?

[01:03:25] I get why you wouldn't want to sleep, but why not eat anymore?

[01:03:28] They're not stopping you from eating.

[01:03:30] Yeah, give us a reason like are they trying to do you notice like one of them like trying to poison your food or something?

[01:03:39] Give us a reason why you're going box of shreddies and one of the jumps out at you like.

[01:03:44] Like surprise.

[01:03:46] Yeah, there's like no reason that he should stop eating.

[01:03:50] Yeah, I don't know.

[01:03:52] It is it is on.

[01:03:54] It was sort of mentioned at one point that like he doesn't go out anymore because he doesn't want to go to the grocery store and all that.

[01:04:00] So he just want to go inside to see them, but it's not because he doesn't want to eat it's because he doesn't want to see those.

[01:04:06] He could still eat the food that's in his house, you know.

[01:04:09] Yeah, that's true.

[01:04:11] Or maybe and then ran out of food as he decided to stop eating.

[01:04:14] Yeah, or the very least like bring that up is like I've ran out of food but I can't go I can't bring myself to go outside I've stopped eating.

[01:04:20] Yeah, yeah.

[01:04:24] That would help it for sure, but that's the end when it was really.

[01:04:27] Okay.

[01:04:30] So on to final thoughts then.

[01:04:32] So here's why I gave this a conditional recommendation because I would recommend this story.

[01:04:39] Because I thought it could I would recommend the story though it could use some editing obviously based off of our notes here.

[01:04:49] And I this is why I would do conditional because I'd use some judgment on who I recommend it to based off of the based on the subject matter we get at the end with the suicide stuff.

[01:05:00] Because some people don't like it's a horror story.

[01:05:03] It's going to be dark by the end, like the endings are usually going to be bad ends or dark endings but not everybody's here for that even in horror stories and stuff so I would I would be cautious who I can

[01:05:16] who I recommend the story to that all said though like I do really like the core concepts of this story and even the writing as much as it could use a round of editing.

[01:05:25] It's not bad and the story that's here is a is a is a fun little tale of like don't read creep posters or don't don't read scary shit or the crystals will come like it's fun like I like it.

[01:05:38] So that's why that's why I'm giving this a conditional recommendation.

[01:05:45] Mikey these days for evil.

[01:05:48] Wow it's fun and all but now every time we've been creeped it past so we risk seeing these the crystals so.

[01:06:00] So the fact here to the creepy bosses once last.

[01:06:03] Yeah scared of a creepy boss that we were in.

[01:06:06] There's a couple in like the last few years but like nothing but like mostly just because like when I'm reading it and like this they're just like the circumstances.

[01:06:18] But yeah like most of the time I'm not like I get like a chill or I get like it's not so it's I get a thrill but it's.

[01:06:26] Yeah I wasn't referring to you specifically because I really scared half the time.

[01:06:32] Yeah myself we often don't yeah that's true yeah you guys are cold stone.

[01:06:37] Yeah yeah well starting next week it'll be the Mikey show.

[01:06:45] Yeah no well.

[01:06:56] Yeah so the with all the quick aside isn't that just the identity revelations show you guys stop doing on our Patreon.

[01:07:06] I was there too.

[01:07:08] You were there too yeah.

[01:07:11] Oh are you sorry is Mikey going like just Mikey guy.

[01:07:17] Okay interesting.

[01:07:20] I mean I wasn't scared of this one honestly.

[01:07:23] Neither was I as I have that I remember that account that moment where I heard something behind me in the dark and looked back.

[01:07:34] Yeah well that's a thing you're not scared of this one but next week's story.

[01:07:41] I mean it might scary one because it's a creepy pastor the grister so show up.

[01:07:47] I mean it is sonic dot exe to the remake.

[01:07:52] So scary.

[01:07:55] This is not actually.

[01:08:01] I guess you'll have to find out next week gamer.

[01:08:07] So basically the fact that you can be potentially infected by this story by knowing what they look like means that you might end up seeing them if you get scared of creepy pastor.

[01:08:22] I really don't recommend people reading this because then they might know in the fiction.

[01:08:29] In the fiction of the story yeah no don't read.

[01:08:34] Stick to the romance and comedies you're used to.

[01:08:38] Don't go chasing horror movies.

[01:08:41] That was a really weird stretch for that.

[01:08:46] Like try to combine like don't go chasing waterfalls.

[01:08:52] Okay so no recommendation both in fiction and out of fiction.

[01:08:58] Yes fair enough.

[01:09:02] And gamer.

[01:09:05] For me it read relatively okay like yeah there were some typos and run on's and stuff but that's just carpe of course the creepypost is.

[01:09:15] I did feel that it's weird that it's a creepypasta that doesn't want people to read creepypasta's.

[01:09:23] Isn't a trollpasta technically?

[01:09:26] Maybe just based on that.

[01:09:29] Yeah like based on the it's not intentionally meant to be a trollpasta but I mean you do a creepypasta that doesn't want you to re-creepypasses yes.

[01:09:38] I mean again like yeah like it's we've also like we've read creeppastas like this before where like they tell us not to read anymore creeppastas or don't read don't do something that the story is doing or something like that so it's like that's a difference if it's saying like don't go out in the woods after midnight.

[01:09:55] Ball blah blah blah okay I get that but it's telling you not to do what you're currently doing.

[01:10:02] Yeah because though that in itself is sort of a play on the horror or like a fear angle or like trying to get a ramp up the tension with that because like oh you're doing something that's telling you not to do it's for business.

[01:10:13] Yes but also the character in there that is warning you about all this is also pretty you in danger of all this.

[01:10:20] The safest way that the character could have protected people from these creatures is to not write this story at all.

[01:10:27] Yeah which is important.

[01:10:30] Yeah which is important because like the story itself I mean like you also said like the story for most people may not be that's maybe that creepy but it's also a warning

[01:10:39] because like don't read other creeppastas that you might get scared of or don't read don't consume horror fiction that make that or don't don't experience things that will make you really fearful because otherwise you'll attract these creatures to you.

[01:10:51] So like it's not just creeppastas that it's telling you not to do it so don't consume horror media at all.

[01:10:59] Which I say I'll take my chances.

[01:11:03] But in regards to this being like a looming threat that's like across a whole bunch of different types of media and there's not really much you can do about it.

[01:11:11] I like that aspect of it and I like that they're not just it shows up as a spooky creature that kills you immediately.

[01:11:19] Like I like that they're more passive at the start of it and then it only gets worse like when you make it worse kind of deal.

[01:11:26] Yeah like you just with it yeah exactly like it's again there's one reason why I kind of like brought this into vastness like honestly like most fairy creatures.

[01:11:35] They they start off passive and it's not until somebody like starts messing with them or like you unless they just like that there's a heel turn that's when things get bad but it's usually the person kind of digging too deep or getting or kind of putting themselves into danger is usually the reason for it so.

[01:11:54] Yeah that's what I basically said partial because there's aspects I like about it but there's aspects I don't like about it because it's weird.

[01:12:03] Yeah like the main character doing exactly what John did instead of learning from that mistake.

[01:12:10] Yeah.

[01:12:11] That be questioning whether or not John was actually seeing these things at all and could have just been fucking with with near the whole time like even in regards to the suicide thing like that could just all be lies.

[01:12:22] Yeah like this person from Adam yeah like he only knows that he's only getting emails he doesn't he hasn't seen John so we didn't know that it could just be John's like John's brother could have just been John fucking with him.

[01:12:33] This could also oh my god this could like horribly this could be like a story about cyber bullying yeah or like like somebody like pushing somebody to suicide which is terrible and scary and creepy in a real world way.

[01:12:49] Yeah with the trappings of this supernatural element just being like there as sort of like a subtle like you have to read between the lines.

[01:12:57] Yeah it's more like you have to read between the lines to actually get the true part of the story where it's actually all in it's all real or it's all real it's all real or not a supernatural horror yeah.

[01:13:09] Yeah that's something that kind of bug me about it that all the quote unquote facts aren't very there's not a lot of validity in them because they could just all be a joke or people just joining in on the fun so it's hard to fully get immersed and believe it because half the time I was wondering if you was just being bullied all the time.

[01:13:33] Yeah which I mean when you do when you post up on extra or on 4chan in general you better you better have a thick skin and you better like be prepared for that kind of stuff but yeah.

[01:13:44] But as I said the story that I was telling it reads well enough and if you just follow story and enjoy it then you'll like it so it's I'll still give a partial just because for some people they may not be into it for the.

[01:14:00] The the rape dungeon references and the suicide stuff like I'm basically giving a condition a condition recommendation as well for those purposes yeah.

[01:14:14] Yeah it's basically if you if you're here for the for us for a weird creepy supernatural creature that's fine but like if you don't like suicide and like the heart the heavier darker stuff maybe don't check this out.

[01:14:27] Yeah maybe think about too much you might not like it either it'd be better just kind of read at face value yeah.

[01:14:33] Because I was trying to think of the other aspects of if there's real or not and that kind of ruined it for me.

[01:14:40] But yeah okay so I guess one non recommendation and two conditional ordering on a partial.

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