ADR - Episode 503: Jeffuary - Nina the Killer

[00:00:00] Oh hello and welcome to the Nintendo showing it has like a metric shit ton of fan art for Nina. So. And more than Jeff probably. It's very possible. And yeah, so Nina the killer. Was written by alligotnik 12.

[00:01:42] We're covering it through fear.f to use it right. Tough but fair. Well, let's dive into the story and find out why starting on the duo with Nina defending her brother and going a bit more unhinged as a result of it. Then one moving on. I wasn't meant to be, was it? I don't know, I kind of got that vibe. It was kind of creepy to me. So I just moved on. Yeah. Like he like he's like whispering in her ear like as he's doing is like, it's like, yes, you'll be one you'll be you'll be just like

[00:05:42] me now. It's gonna hurt a little bit. Don't worry. Just like, uh, if we needed move on to everyone tell us a gramon positions at this point and boy howdy do I have a lot of grammar position. You should start by saying this was translated. I did. Did you. I said it right at the beginning of the run of the rundown that this was translated from Spanish to English.

[00:07:01] I don't know how the hell I missed that.

[00:07:03] This is not character we don't know. Yeah. Chris recovered from his injuries, not Chris, his or brother, but like another Chris,

[00:08:24] who was in the hospital. He was released from the hospital. was my high school scaban first off but it was I was going through many phases yeah apparently I mean there's the fuzzy bitches yeah well that was my punk band but yeah also for this sentence like back to the actual grammar part it needs

[00:09:43] another comma just after Nina so it's it after others and then add four or as. So it should read like this. Nina didn't have much chance to outrun the others

[00:11:01] comma as they were bigger than her and she was tiring.

[00:12:04] head, comma, she found an abandoned house which she stumbled into seeking refuge.

[00:12:08] Maybe the comma should be after a head.

[00:12:10] Is, am I in the network? No, actually, I think it should be a head she found an abandoned house,

[00:12:14] comma, which she stumbled into seeking refuge.

[00:12:16] Yeah.

[00:12:17] Okay.

[00:12:17] That, so we just couldn't figure out where the comedy to be.

[00:12:20] Yeah.

[00:12:21] That's where I got that personally.

[00:12:23] Yeah.

[00:12:24] I, I'd buy that.

[00:12:27] How much?

[00:12:28] A dollar.

[00:13:25] I suppose. Yeah. Also, this is sort of a more elaboration on the actual context of the scene that's happening here. I shouldn't it be called a new empty house

[00:13:29] like earlier like when she enters the house or

[00:13:32] Maybe give us a little bit more detail about the condition of the house like that. It's like under construction or something with that

[00:13:38] I don't know like it just seemed like why is there a metal bar in the middle of this house and like why are you just assuming that it was

[00:13:43] Left during the construction of this house like

[00:14:45] The next thing here, Nina ran to the front entrance and waited quietly around the corner. She heard Claudia's footsteps as she entered the house.

[00:14:50] So my fix here is Nina ran to the front of the entrance and waited quietly around the corner

[00:14:57] until she heard Claudia's footsteps as she entered was Jeff. Yeah. It's kind of breathe. Yeah. Exactly. That's all like a comma is good. And again, like, again, we know it's a translation, but like the person who translated could have like gone through and like done some corrections just like for the to give a single parent working Several jobs or like just being overworked at a diner and that's why she was trying to get some sleep there Um would also explain how Nina Hmm what?

[00:17:43] Maybe but like also it just like I just kind of want like I just for some reason It's just like the way that like that read to me when I, like she's like in the bathroom doing this and she could see him quote unquote in the mirror. Yeah, exactly. Or like I think like even if like it was like, like she sees him like with the two bottles in hand and like dousing her, but it's in reality. She's doing like a sentence structure thing for me. I feel like the last sentence there, where like she was worried about Nina and wanted to go check on her. Should go before the thought bubble or like the thought dialogue, as it were. Like she crept out of the bed

[00:20:21] and stumbled toward the sound.

[00:20:24] She was worried about Nina.

[00:20:26] So she thought she'd check on her Okay. Yeah. And I'll move on to the last grammar position I have. Of course it's something to do with commas. Why wouldn't it? Yeah. Nina said as she rushed her mother with a knife plunging it I won't tell anyone. You're skillful, but dangerous. It was at this stage when Nina would feel her sanity begin to slip away.

[00:23:06] It read, I'm sorry about your brother. in letters that she wrote and then she just completely, in her mind, just blacked out about. So then she rereads them and it's like, she thinks that it's Jeff talking to her or somebody is sending these letters. But it's really her, or even like they're from her diary or something like that. Mm-hmm. But yeah.

[00:24:21] Also, in regards to those letters,

[00:24:23] specifically the first one where he's like,

[00:24:26] you're skillful but dangerous, but like there's different syntax and such but like yeah let's have our fun okay but yeah Mikey you don't have anything else aside from the the congestion conjunction no all right gamer Mikey says you did a good job cultist that's not saying that he

[00:25:44] enjoyed your your points that you brought up he Pan because of her appearance all of all of what but I feel like it flows better if it goes I Never could have imagined that Jeff the killer's madness could be so overwhelming not only is it soon by it But it affects those around him someone with an extremely fragile mind could be pushed to insanity period new paragraph

[00:27:01] I've recently learned of a new killer because it's switching from Jeff being the focus to Nina being the focus

[00:28:08] Yeah, yeah, or but when I look deeper into it, she was worse than that worse than any monster. I know or something like that

[00:28:16] Yeah, I would take either or honestly like I think worse than that monster is like it was just talking about. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so yeah, for sure and then my last one here

[00:28:19] This is when she's waiting in the house for Claudia to come in and attack her

[00:28:24] Claudia was approaching the corner of that Nina was hiding behind

[00:29:22] I had to get into the next sentence, which is super far away.

[00:29:23] I know. I think you're that there's cut off.

[00:29:26] Yeah, you gotta make that double jump to get to.

[00:29:28] Yeah.

[00:29:29] But yeah, I agree.

[00:29:31] Like, because when you're reading a story, you, the reason why people do that sudden

[00:29:35] like break in a word when they're being interrupted is to incite a sudden like

[00:29:41] exciting moment.

[00:29:43] Yeah.

[00:29:44] And it's not sudden if it's complete words or is complete sentence.

[00:29:48] Yeah.

[00:29:49] Yeah. a extremely fragile mind could be pushed to insanity. So this is why I gave it, I was willing to give this story a partial recommendation on the very low end. I like this idea, the idea that of a killer that emits a corruptive field or an infectious aura that propagates more killers.

[00:31:02] Like it's sort of like how in the spoilers

[00:31:05] for the soft franchise.

[00:32:06] like he's basically like literally the literal manifestation of that evil begets evil or like the cycle of violence and hatred cannot be or only continues when you use violence and hatred to

[00:32:12] stop it. Got it. So that's the thing in the story. Message behind Jeff the killer stories.

[00:32:20] No, I just think that like what the story was instances of like killer stuff like three bullies begin picking on some kid and that primes at least one of the victims of the bullying to become a killer? Like weird? I eventually became friends with all of them. Of course, yeah. Because I confronted them. And then they had no... When I converted them, but why they were picking on me and some of that, they had no reason why, and then we became friends.

[00:35:03] And similarly, the earthquake guy, the thing was like make my life miserable. No, it was all like quote unquote good fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a's very like like Alan Wake and like Control, which Control is also heavily inspired by SCP Foundation. At least want to go that route. But actually what I thought you were saying was about the bullies in relation to these kids. So we're gonna move to the next thing I have here. One night while her brother was playing out in the yard, Claudia

[00:39:01] and her gang showed up for revenge. They knew how much Nina or 17 and like well yeah and then again you like you said like that's kind of bigger that's it yeah that could just mean they're like they're bigger and they're taller and stuff like that yeah honestly I did actually look in and see what the minimum like the minimum driving age in most places is 16 like even like in Spain because the story was written in was written in Spanish

[00:40:22] originally so I did like kind of like I'm going to teach you how to be a bully. You got to start young though. He's just kidding. Exactly. So go to school, find someone to beat up. I'll drive you around. It's fine. Yeah. Like basically evil, but get evil. Kind of. Again, there's themes here. It's layers upon layers. Or there's another option where the bullies are bullying

[00:41:42] their parents so they can get them to drive them anywhere.

[00:41:46] You have to go beat the walkway between the two. Oh really?

[00:43:00] Yeah, back when I was growing up.

[00:43:01] So I could kind of see that maybe this,

[00:43:05] and also I've seen in like the week and like the slightly underage, not like, not this underage. So yeah, it was definitely something that popped up because it was like, like, wait, these kids are like driving? It makes no sense.

[00:44:21] Yeah, as soon as the driving came up, I was like, she said what I excited, she said excitedly. That night after Nina heard home, it's like, I mean, like in a movie, that's probably how they would like kind of like, they'd feed the black or they'd cut away to like, like hours later. But like in this story, like I just kind of felt like, it suddenly like it's very jarring.

[00:45:41] Yes, it is jarring.

[00:45:43] However, the bodies are in an abandoned house.

[00:45:46] True, yeah.

[00:45:47] But like she's also should be Nina's killer's like slogan, like, Allah, Jeff, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[00:47:04] no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, basically involved too, right? Yeah, or like at least like, or there at least be patches of it maybe. But yeah. Yeah, he'd look more like a fallout victim from like, or like one of the, the, the wastelanders

[00:48:20] who are like, or have like hair falling out kind of thing,

[00:48:23] where it's just like strands of hair and stuff at that

[00:48:25] on them in the fall out games then.

[00:49:23] Apparently Nina has gone full-blown Kuchisaki Ona.

[00:49:32] The Japanese urban legend of a lady with a sliced mouth that asks you if she's pretty if you like come across her in the street and then pretty much kills you based on the answer.

[00:49:39] Like either if you say that she's pretty you get like this should have like, maybe this was like the Spanish equivalent of Nina is the Spanish equivalent of of Kuchisakionna. And that's how that that's the origin story for it. It was actually a Jeff the killer OC.

[00:51:00] But moving on to my last thing here. And so she bats so I might have to do a brainstorm later But yeah, I just I like this idea of just like like it's like do you want to live? You want to start a new life with me Chris? Yeah, it sounds great cool stab That'll respawn your body somewhere else Yeah, exactly

[00:52:23] Yeah, oh

[00:52:24] God the parents when things go wrong. Like... Oh, like I explained. Neiman's bomb works several jobs again. Yes, yes. But the first instance of brandishing a weapon at school, like that doesn't fly. Yeah, she would be suspended at least.

[00:53:41] Like definitely...

[00:53:42] When someone saw that...

[00:53:43] Everybody saw it.

[00:53:44] The bullies even mentioned it, because the bullies might have so little cred that they don't Yeah. So. Yeah. And out the window, two stories. Yeah. Sorry, I'm getting my Twilight trapped in my. Jeff the killer. Oh, see. Cribbuses. I'm sorry. Don't combine those two things. I will.

[00:55:02] Yeah. It's bandages. It's based maybe weeks depending on how bad it is. It just happens ways too quickly in the story for it to be believable to me. Well, again, the other thing that I don't want to like, you're right, but also like this story is not only like moving away from like, oh, it's just a span.

[00:56:22] It's a translation.

[00:56:23] Also, it is technically a like a first person story. Yeah, exactly. It's just something they become a outside observer narrator like the omnipresent observer. Which it should have been from the get go. Yeah. Unless this voice, this narrator, is the ghost of Chris.

[00:57:45] Or maybe it's, it's just a comment.

[00:59:01] The story is just a combination of like our newspaper articles and like factual, like data.

[00:59:05] Yes. we're pretty it's pretty cut and dry. What's going on? It happens. There's no reading between the lines here. Unless the reading between lines is me like constantly like wanting to add backstory to certain characters in certain things scenarios in the story. Like maybe that's what he meant. But like that's not the truth. The quote unquote truth is not whether or not Nina's mom works

[01:00:21] two jobs. Like isn't at home doesn't make sense logically, like how the world is reacting to the scenario. Yeah, and instead of like going at length about it, we just go out there and derp, let's move on. Yeah, exactly. It's the same thing're just the background like the shadows of Claudia. Yes, and I'm fine with that. Yeah, I feel like that's what it should be in the actual story too. Like just refer to them as a couple of cronies,

[01:03:04] a couple of bullies. Like they don't need a name because they don't have any for all of you. Yeah, I mean, yeah. They're complicit. Compleasing. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They've talked about 11-year-old with a car moving on. And then, yeah, actually Mikey brought up this. And I guess you did two points.

[01:04:20] Well, like, there's no parents.

[01:04:23] Like, after the first brutal attack,

[01:04:26] I feel like the mom would show up and be all that stuff, walked over to the nearest mirror in like the bathroom or something like that and just pulled off the bandages herself. Really? Yeah. In the story, she walks out off away from the bed to the nearest mirror. Like, where are the nurses? Where's the doctor? She was my head ten in that into something that would make sense.

[01:05:42] You know, that's like, that's like one degree more than like type-o-neasing. It's just like plot-o-neasing.

[01:06:44] actual like Jeff the Killer fan girl as the subject of the origin. Like they just replaced Jeff the Killer with Nina the Killer.

[01:06:48] I wanted it to be as we've really been like continually rehashing.

[01:06:55] I really wish that this had been like fleshed out more and elaborated on,

[01:07:00] give us more like information about like the character situations and stuff like that.

[01:07:04] Scrap the as much as I like the, well honestly teachers unless this is just Derpland. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is just Derpland or it's like kids on bikes or like little fears

[01:08:20] game with the game system where like adults don the original one and they're quite good. So who knows? So Mikey basically, yeah, you're not recommending this one because of all that. Yeah. Do you just like, no, not recommend.

[01:09:41] Okay.

[01:09:42] We did.

[01:09:43] I didn't hear like a serial killer who's been captured in his in jail and stuff like that like on the news and stuff and they they they they form like a sort of an ad like a they get hot and bothered for them and so with that and they write letters to them

[01:11:00] like and they have fan mail and they create fan mail and stuff like that's a thing in real life

[01:11:04] in true crime and stuff like that like there, it's not good. No, it isn't good. It's gonna have some sort of an outlet of it like reading a story about it compared to actually doing something like this yourself but yeah I don't know man.

[01:12:22] I just didn't like the I feel like there should be adults in this, especially with how young these kids are, they're children. Yeah. It's one thing if they're all teenagers and they're like rejecting the adults and all that because they're in their rebellious youth phase, but they're children. Yeah, they're not, they're not like just like, yeah, they're, this is pre like she Nina, based on the story, based on the original Nina, the killer story that we just read.

[01:14:43] to defend her brother and then she kills them. Yeah, like, yeah, like, I thought it would mean more sense if like she had taken him hostage

[01:14:47] and just like, like, now she's just a tag along with her, her shenanigans. But no, he just,

[01:14:53] she kills him.

[01:14:54] Where is it in the original Jeff the story? Jeff the killer story. Didn't he also kill

[01:14:59] Lou?

[01:15:00] It's, it's left and on. It's left honestly ambiguous if he killed him or not because

[01:15:04] he just says go to sleep and then it gets away. or spree. Yeah. So like in like the papers and stuff like that, like the sort of like the like being related to like some some kind of like mad killer like having to deal with that with the media and stuff like that. So yeah, there's a there's different ways to take it. And this story just like, it's like, oh, like, she like throughout the whole story,

[01:16:20] she cares about her brother. And then she just being toxic. But again, at the end of the day, this is supposed to be horror and stuff like that. So you're supposed to be dreadful and stuff. But sometimes I think there's weird things where people on the internet kind of get a little

[01:18:44] from high school, is there high school bordering their elementary school? Like,

[01:18:48] this is stuff that we should know to like flush the world out in our headcanon so we could see what's going on. Yeah, it would actually also like, I just something just came to mind, it would be

[01:18:53] so cool if like there is actually an insetting reason why there are no adults right there. Like

[01:18:58] what if these guys are just in a town that's like completely like practically a ghost town and like

[01:19:02] only there's only like a few families or even just kids. So children of the corn, basically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just children of the corn. Yeah. Exactly. And again, that's impossible. That would be an interesting take for a Jeff the Killer story and so with that. Or for this kind of creep pasta. I would love to read more about that kind of setting.

[01:20:21] But yeah, again, I'm only willing to give it a partial because of the ideas in the story, but otherwise, no. Well, gamer, maybe I'm sorry, but also you might be in luck of finding something that maybe the rewrite of this story next episode will have you seeing a better light on this story?

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