ADR - Episode 496: Whack-A-Mole

[00:00:00] Oh, hello and welcome to Al Dente Rigamortis.

[00:00:20] I'm Review Cultist.

[00:00:23] I'm the Gamer in Yellow every time it seems so weird not going after Mikey because Mikey's

[00:00:31] not here right now.

[00:00:32] Yes, but we are soldering on.

[00:00:35] Because we're here to discuss those internet stories, most creepy animals pasta and be critically

[00:00:40] silly doing it.

[00:00:42] Tonight we have Wackemoll.

[00:00:45] So yeah, Wackemoll, it's by Mac Ralston.

[00:00:51] It's on Creepust.Wiki.

[00:00:52] You may remember Mac Ralston as the author of Evergreens in an endless autumn.

[00:00:58] I remember that one.

[00:01:00] Yeah, I remember you liking that one.

[00:01:02] I remember.

[00:01:03] Well, let's find out if we like this one.

[00:01:07] Starting with our initial rendezvous or starting with our initial recommendations.

[00:01:17] I'm going to partially recommend this one, but like on the high end of recommendations.

[00:01:22] Interesting.

[00:01:25] I'm going to partially recommend this one, but on the high ends.

[00:01:31] So the same.

[00:01:33] No.

[00:01:34] Shut up.

[00:01:35] I was also thinking you're like, I've got a partially recommended from the low end.

[00:01:39] I was going to do that for the bit.

[00:01:45] What I did.

[00:01:46] All right, fair.

[00:01:48] Well, let's find out why we recommended that way.

[00:01:53] Starting off with the rundown featuring pity.

[00:01:59] We start with a scene of our narrator, pity, a crime family hitman bearing Arnie, a mole

[00:02:06] for the cops that he's sniffed and snuffed out.

[00:02:11] We then get the story leading up to the killing and burying of Arnie with pity suspecting

[00:02:18] Arnie of being a mole and setting up a plan to off him.

[00:02:23] Uses Arnie's wife as the bait, bringing him out to the fateful ditch where he shoots him

[00:02:30] in the back of the head without telling him the fate of his own wife and then buries the

[00:02:36] man and plants a tulip on the spot.

[00:02:41] Then back at the house, pity is having some coke, the drug and notices someone outside

[00:02:50] beyond a street light looking at him when he checks when he checks a little bit more thoroughly

[00:02:56] through the window.

[00:02:58] The figure shuffles into the light and reveals Arnie's corpse.

[00:03:02] The bullet wound in his face, displaying his flesh outward like a star-faced mole, a

[00:03:09] description that comes to mind to pity as he looks on.

[00:03:14] The form shuffles to the door, and in some kind of state either from the circumstances

[00:03:20] or the drugs, perhaps simply thinking this is all a dream, pity allows the corpse Arnie

[00:03:27] to drag him to his car and have him drive out to the same grave spot from earlier.

[00:03:33] Then when they arrive, the corpse Arnie points to the mound of dirt and pity goes out

[00:03:40] and looks around at it until a gun is pressed against his head, just like he did to Arnie

[00:03:46] earlier.

[00:03:47] But the strangest thing presented here as pity is frozen in place is that the spot

[00:03:54] is undisturbed from when he left it, complete with a tulip still in place.

[00:04:02] So I suppose with that out of the way, we'll move on to everyone, tolerance, and grab

[00:04:07] angles of shuns.

[00:04:09] At this point, I've got a few going to start with this one here.

[00:04:16] Take him, tell him you got a spare ticket, and I'll take his wife out and believe me,

[00:04:22] I took her out.

[00:04:23] Then we get this like horizontal line as we cut to the next scene.

[00:04:29] It's about a mile or so on the left, I said, big old clearing in the trees.

[00:04:36] Can't miss it.

[00:04:37] So yeah, we have this horizontal separation line that separates these two disparate scenes.

[00:04:46] And I kind of wish we had gotten a similar separation line at the very beginning of the story

[00:04:51] when we get the part where he's in, the story starts in media res with pity burying

[00:04:57] Arnie.

[00:04:59] And then it jumps back, it jumps to the story of how Arnie got killed and like why pity

[00:05:08] pity thought he was a snitch and stuff like that.

[00:05:11] And I kind of think that maybe there's since there's a, since there's a horizontal line

[00:05:14] later in the story that like separates two disparate scenes, maybe there should have been

[00:05:19] a separate line, a separation line there as well.

[00:05:22] Yeah, for every time and jump.

[00:05:24] Yeah, I'm with you.

[00:05:28] Okay, also I have to ask this, how did you like the the immediate res moments?

[00:05:34] It was fine.

[00:05:35] I love immediate res.

[00:05:37] Did it actually not bug you in this one?

[00:05:40] No.

[00:05:41] Okay, interesting.

[00:05:42] It was fine.

[00:05:43] To be fair, there is actually something later in the story that wouldn't usually bug the

[00:05:47] hell out of me but because it was done right, it didn't bug me in this one.

[00:05:50] So, but I'll get to that in my actual thoughts.

[00:05:53] He met me in front of the hood but didn't make eye contact as instead his eyes widened

[00:06:00] at the sight of the dirt pile that he thought might have been final, the resting place

[00:06:06] of his precious ball and chain.

[00:06:08] So this one's a simple just error just like might have been the final resting place of

[00:06:13] his precious ball and chain.

[00:06:15] Yep.

[00:06:16] Like just the two words of just excellent.

[00:06:18] Oh yeah, it's it's simple like just an accidental swap.

[00:06:22] Based on to my final actual or my final grammar position, it was two in the friggin morning

[00:06:29] before I finally got tired.

[00:06:32] Coke will do that.

[00:06:33] Do you?

[00:06:34] And that's that really do that to you.

[00:06:39] This is like yeah, it's not like an afflex.

[00:06:43] I don't think there's like an affectation to like I think it's that like we'll do that

[00:06:50] to you a T there instead of a D.

[00:06:55] Yeah, I mean like force spelling could be an effect of coke, you know, like maybe do

[00:07:05] do it to you.

[00:07:06] Yeah, it do do can't do that.

[00:07:09] Do do.

[00:07:10] Do do.

[00:07:11] Yeah.

[00:07:12] But that is the end of my grammar position.

[00:07:14] So gamer, the gamer, the gamer, the day in.

[00:07:25] Let's see.

[00:07:26] I have an it story.

[00:07:29] Really?

[00:07:30] Because somebody had to pick up the pace.

[00:07:33] So we had this soldier on that burden.

[00:07:37] So yeah, and now an it story with the gamer in yellow.

[00:07:45] Take it away.

[00:07:49] It was a stupid joke.

[00:07:52] But at the time I thought it was funny as hell.

[00:07:55] And it was coke, the families shall we say stuff of choice.

[00:08:00] Stuff we like to jokingly refer to as soda that prompted Arnie to petition for adoption

[00:08:06] into our little crew.

[00:08:08] And I was and believe me, I took her out or at least the alias the pigs told him be.

[00:08:17] But he never figured out me.

[00:08:21] And it was on the subject of games that I remembered that I was about to whack a mole.

[00:08:27] It was two in the friggin morning before I finally got tired.

[00:08:32] It was just beyond the yard.

[00:08:35] It was when he stepped forward into the harsh overhead light that I realized who exactly

[00:08:41] it was.

[00:08:43] And though he didn't have eyes anymore, I could tell he was looking straight at.

[00:08:48] And thinking about the soda reminded me that what I was seeing could have merely been my

[00:08:54] imagination, a sick hallucination.

[00:08:58] But it was when the doorbell finally rang all too audibly to be in my head that I realized

[00:09:05] that it wasn't the drugs.

[00:09:08] And that wasn't so silly.

[00:09:11] And then the mole sputtered and gurgled some more.

[00:09:15] But I did have a good chuckle when I finally noticed that freshly plucked tulips sticking

[00:09:19] out of his breast pocket.

[00:09:22] And that damn little tulip is still sticking out of it.

[00:09:25] Finn.

[00:09:26] Wow.

[00:09:27] Yeah.

[00:09:28] Wow.

[00:09:29] Yeah.

[00:09:30] What like like he oh, I was going to take her out except it wasn't her.

[00:09:35] It was a guy an alias and he was actually like the like his like face split.

[00:09:40] Well, yeah, it's just like yeah or then like something he got who we came eyeless.

[00:09:44] Yeah, I got really like yeah, it was definitely like a psychological horror or like some kind

[00:09:51] of like bad trip.

[00:09:54] Yeah.

[00:09:59] But that's the kind of things that happen when you use it's answer buts because there's

[00:10:04] or at the beginning of the sentences because there's always better words.

[00:10:07] Yeah, did I do it correctly?

[00:10:09] Kind of.

[00:10:10] Mike normally does these, but I did this time to highlight all the sentences story that

[00:10:17] started with words that they probably shouldn't like it's answer buts because there's always

[00:10:20] better words.

[00:10:21] Yeah, I should have just let you do the whole thing.

[00:10:29] And that's all you have for grammar and position?

[00:10:31] Yeah.

[00:10:32] Okay.

[00:10:33] Then let's move on to actual thoughts.

[00:10:35] All right.

[00:10:36] So I'm going to start with this one here with my actual thoughts.

[00:10:39] Perhaps I ill assumed Arnie's mistrust of us, the family that is especially me and Ma

[00:10:45] and Rocco and Sam because of our mistrust for him mistrust I might add that was completely

[00:10:53] justified and proven proven when we discovered that he was a goddamn little mole working

[00:11:01] for the piggies.

[00:11:04] It would it was like we were dealing with the whole friggin barnyard.

[00:11:10] I'm telling you Rocco, I said stir in some rye into my morning coffee.

[00:11:15] Is it goddamn mole?

[00:11:18] I just wanted to highlight that I really like the mob talk and the war feel of the story.

[00:11:26] Like I was half tempted to do this entirely in walking, but I don't know if I'd be able

[00:11:31] to do it.

[00:11:36] Like it was like we will walk it we will deal in with the whole.

[00:11:44] I'm telling you Rocco, I said stir in some rye into my morning coffee.

[00:11:54] God damn mole.

[00:11:59] I guess it would work but yeah it was very like I really liked the flavor of this crime

[00:12:07] talk.

[00:12:08] For sure.

[00:12:09] Also let's be real walking could make anything.

[00:12:12] I mean the three little pigs who was like the best ever.

[00:12:19] Oink oink.

[00:12:20] Yeah, it's proven when we discovered that he was a goddamn little mole working for the

[00:12:31] piggies.

[00:12:32] Oink oink.

[00:12:33] Yeah, it's perfect.

[00:12:37] Yeah, so yeah, I just really enjoyed like I just wanted to highlight that like I really

[00:12:41] enjoyed the noir feel and the mob talk.

[00:12:44] Actually, so as a quick aside we actually did get an email or we got a response from

[00:12:50] the author Mac Ralston after we did our episode of Evergreen's Into the Eternal Autumn

[00:12:58] and they said like we were welcome to do like a bunch of their other stories.

[00:13:02] They endorsed us doing more like more of their stories on the show.

[00:13:07] But like they commented like that one of the things that they really like one of their

[00:13:11] trends in their stories is that they're very dialogue heavy or model log heavy.

[00:13:16] And you can kind of you can definitely see it in this one like because like we have a narrator

[00:13:19] who's actually like narrating like basically like a noir model log in this one using

[00:13:25] hearing.

[00:13:26] Yeah, and like usually it's from the detective side when I read like noir stuff but

[00:13:31] like to hear from like a mafia like guy or like a mob or like a mob a mob person it's

[00:13:36] just as good.

[00:13:37] Yeah, but I'll move on to the next thing I have here.

[00:13:42] It was when he stepped forward into the hush overhead light that I realized who exactly

[00:13:51] it was.

[00:13:52] Annie, friggin Reynolds, although somehow he was uglier than before with a gaping hole

[00:14:07] stood through his face and skin peeled back in every direction like a star knows got

[00:14:16] them all.

[00:14:18] All right, I'm like cool down the lock.

[00:14:25] But yeah, like so yeah, so basically like this is the description that we get of like Reynolds

[00:14:31] face and how pity attributes it to being a star knows mole and such.

[00:14:40] So it's a mole as in a snitch or an informant who now looks like a mole of the animal because

[00:14:49] of the exit wound of the bullet in his face.

[00:14:53] Nice allegorical touch.

[00:14:57] It does help explain why there's a photo of a of the animal, the star knows mole at the

[00:15:05] start of this story, which as this went on I was wondering about because like that's

[00:15:11] the first thing you see in on the wikis.

[00:15:13] Like you see this like when you're going through like I pulled this for Mac Ralston's

[00:15:18] like a list of listing of stories and a lot of them tend to have images like tied to

[00:15:23] them like used almost like as like like title cards or like the like a representation

[00:15:30] for the story.

[00:15:32] And yeah, that image also like the right on the on like before even scrolling down right

[00:15:36] in the first image thing that you take note of aside from like the title and like the words

[00:15:42] is this front view of a star knows mole just like looking at you in the face.

[00:15:49] So yeah as I was reading the story, I was beginning to wonder like is this like.

[00:16:02] Like I caught on pretty quickly that oh the mole is representate representational like it's

[00:16:08] like the criminal term for a mole, but like with the photo I expected Arnie to like end up transforming

[00:16:14] into a mole monster.

[00:16:16] Which he kind of does he kind of does in a way, but like then the ending kind of also kind

[00:16:23] of shirks a little bit of that like he did kind of but like it's he's not exactly like a physical

[00:16:29] like manifestation here it seems.

[00:16:32] Yeah, but yeah, it's more of like a metaphorical like he transforms into a mole more like

[00:16:36] a metaphorical sense I suppose like with the how like his skin splays out to make that that

[00:16:41] appearance and such.

[00:16:44] And actually I also like with I actually want to talk about the face wound and stuff of that.

[00:16:53] What a bullet wound exiting your face cause your face to like act like like happen like that?

[00:16:59] Like is that something that happens?

[00:17:01] Exit wounds are always bigger than entry wounds.

[00:17:03] Yeah, I knew that.

[00:17:05] I was just like I guess and I guess they also depends on like the bullet and so it could be like

[00:17:08] if it's a hollow point, I know they display out pretty bad.

[00:17:11] Yeah, like they splash it.

[00:17:12] It's easy to use in 9 millimeters so it's not like a high caliber pistol.

[00:17:15] Yeah, but it was also like right at the temple or at the back of the head.

[00:17:19] And then so like all that extra all that kinetic energy is like going outward basically like a cone.

[00:17:25] So I guess yeah, it would basically create like a splash or like a a splitting like that.

[00:17:31] You would blow at the front end it would display it a bit whether it's

[00:17:34] displayed it as much as you were right or imagining it.

[00:17:37] I don't know.

[00:17:38] Yeah, well this is also a very no war heavy story so like the

[00:17:43] character can like

[00:17:45] Yeah, can illuminate or like illustrate a lot more like with flower with flowery descriptions

[00:17:54] than reality might actually suggest.

[00:17:59] And as this is all like being told to us by like a singular like perspective like that's

[00:18:05] probably like how they see the world kind of thing.

[00:18:07] We're kind of like getting a glimpse of like how pity sees reality so

[00:18:15] but I'll move on to the next thing I have here.

[00:18:18] He began to trudge.

[00:18:21] I like almost like started to doubt if it does yeah.

[00:18:25] He began to trudge forward as the dirt shuffled off his shoulders forming a trail that for a moment

[00:18:32] resembled the track of coke I'd huffed not even three hours prior.

[00:18:38] So this is sort of an early hint that something was up in terms of Arnie's presence at

[00:18:46] Piddies Place.

[00:18:50] I did also note this before I read the ending so like the ending kind of reveal of like what

[00:18:56] what's what the state of the the grave is is kind of un

[00:19:01] is not it was not part of my initial like thoughts when I was reading this part of the story

[00:19:10] but I feel it's still worth noting.

[00:19:13] Would the dirt still be on him in that quantity like assuming Piddies dwelling is would be

[00:19:19] like a ways away from the burying spot for of Arnie.

[00:19:24] I'd imagine Arnie shuffling to this location would have removed most of the dirt

[00:19:30] that he had like accumulated on himself after he dug himself out.

[00:19:36] And then even like in my notes here I'm like this is all like pre-ending notes I'm taking

[00:19:40] but even before I'd read the ending I kind of like started speculating it's like unless

[00:19:44] of course it was because he's just a manifestation to or he like manifested to the spot

[00:19:51] like a phantom or hallucination.

[00:19:54] Yeah so yeah like yeah exactly yeah like as we find out at the end like it seems like he's

[00:20:00] a more of a ghostly phantom than a like a physical manifestation unless some because like even like

[00:20:05] he has the tulip in his in his coat pocket when he manifests in front of Piddie's house but when we

[00:20:12] get to the the final scene the tool the the grave is undisturbed and the tulip is still there planted so

[00:20:20] it has to be some kind of manifestation that that Piddie is experiencing.

[00:20:24] But yeah early on it's just like what like I don't get me wrong I also like the description

[00:20:30] like the the dirt falling off of Piddie formed these lines like the lines of coke I just like so

[00:20:36] like again that's very noir as fuck.

[00:20:37] It's falling off Arnie not Piddie.

[00:20:39] Yeah sorry yeah falling off Arnie and then like it reminded Piddie of the the lines of

[00:20:45] cokey had just done so yeah and again like that.

[00:20:48] I thought was kind of a little bit of a weird description.

[00:20:51] Yeah it's like yes lines of coke are like granular thing and so is dirt but dirt is like brown

[00:20:59] yeah but it's also like again it's more of like kind of a

[00:21:05] illumination like it's near it's it's being very noir.

[00:21:08] Yeah yeah yeah um but yeah you're also right in the costume for some reason I was visually like

[00:21:13] as he like it's sort of like one of those like spoof movies where like things are just like

[00:21:16] super like exaggerated like I'm just imagining like as the dirt just coming off of his back

[00:21:20] he's just forming like straight like clear lines like not like little trinkles but like just

[00:21:24] straight up basically like almost like farm mounds.

[00:21:28] Yeah like in the road as he walks he shuffles from the from the light post to the door

[00:21:33] and that's not so much yeah no he's he's actually forming actual like lines of coke behind

[00:21:39] like huge ones that like people are just like some homeless person is just like running over like

[00:21:43] yeah yeah like again like the not to not to make super silly but like kind of like one of those

[00:21:50] like parody stuff things like from like scary movie or um you know like those mid-2000s movies

[00:21:57] that like just like did like ridiculous parodies and like the skits they did in it were really

[00:22:02] like just over the top but I digress I'll move on to the next thing I have here

[00:22:12] oh where am I here where the hell am I

[00:22:19] assumed he was saying something when I opened the door so I shot him which was probably not a

[00:22:25] good idea so I shot him again but I figured if he made it that far he'd get in somehow

[00:22:33] so I shot him some more he didn't talk but there was a bloody or but there's blood and shit spewing

[00:22:40] out of where his mouth ought to be like a gurgling Gerber baby though far less cute so I shot him

[00:22:47] a few more times for a good measure the entire time I read the actual like talking about this happened

[00:22:55] I know no the entire time I read the original version of what I just read yeah I kept

[00:23:01] expecting this hard bitten killer to pull his gun out and keep plugging like already

[00:23:07] different locations like as Arnie's like approaching it's like he's just like fired a fired

[00:23:13] that a fire support like I guess given his drug-induced mental state or the super

[00:23:20] that was ago how long this co-class you'd be surprised actually okay I don't know personally but like

[00:23:26] from what I've under from what I understand it does last quite a while quite a while

[00:23:32] not for me yeah sorry dude marijuana is the only one legal in our country right that's the

[00:23:42] whoops I do of course yeah yes this is a joke hi Ceasis you can see cis and the cis this we're joking

[00:23:57] we've gone to the what I was continuing on yeah so yeah like given yet his drug-induced

[00:24:03] drug-induced mental state or like the supernatural situation that pretty finds himself in

[00:24:08] I can give him a pass on not reacting how I might expect him to react otherwise yeah like he's

[00:24:18] sort of in a bit of a days and like this is sort of a really surreal situation so yeah like yeah

[00:24:22] he may not like be taken this as serious as a normal like hard bitten killer might take this

[00:24:30] it would be funny actually if this is huh sorry you mean hard boiled no hard hard bitten

[00:24:35] I've never heard hard bitten really okay yeah no it's it's as far as I know it's a term looking

[00:24:42] up okay tough and cynical a couple of hard bitten detectives arrived on the scene like that's

[00:24:49] what hard boiled hard boiled I think is a I think it's actually it's actually actually I think it's

[00:24:56] actually a description for like a detective story um yeah but the thing that you just

[00:25:01] tried to detect it like it's the thing they're pretty well because like a hard boiled is a

[00:25:07] is basically another word for like someone who is tough and does not show much emotion so

[00:25:15] somebody who is so hard bitten is somebody who is tough and cynical whereas hard boiled is

[00:25:22] somebody who is tough and emotionless or tough and doesn't show emotion I see so there's a slight

[00:25:28] difference to it yeah yeah it's it's in a war to it's it's very in a war term so yes um

[00:25:37] but yeah so yeah just like that whole like thing is like I just imagine the like how this like

[00:25:43] killer wasn't reacting but again like the basically if seems like the story he was just like going

[00:25:48] through a really bad trip like as a result of the coke so yeah yeah sorry certainly not crack

[00:25:59] I like that they made that joke of like calling it soda yeah because it's a very crime thing the

[00:26:05] like a criminal thing to do to like use aliases or use something that like I'm not saying the actual

[00:26:11] what we're actually is I'm using a euphemism so that I can't be incriminated well I don't even

[00:26:17] mean that I just mean it's silly and fun because like like it's called coke which is like Coca-Cola

[00:26:23] which is so yeah oh yeah yeah no like and but again like it is the the reason they're using that

[00:26:29] is because like they uh it's both like a it's an inside joke for them yeah but also it's so

[00:26:35] they don't incriminate themselves in case somebody is like monitoring them I suppose yeah um

[00:26:42] it's similar to like during prohibition you'd go to a you'd go to uh to a tea house in in quotes

[00:26:49] to get some tea and like right and really that was just a euphemism for like getting bourbon or like

[00:26:56] getting some some moonshine actually want to have tea though then they'd look at you funny because

[00:27:02] you're why are you in this tea like this is not that's not the kind of tea we sell here sir

[00:27:07] no but if you legitimately want I don't know why I'm asking this you can do me wanted to go

[00:27:12] to a tea house with someone say let's go to the tea house you're like okay wink yeah

[00:27:19] that you went to the wrong tea house yeah because like usually a tea house yeah it was like a 1920s

[00:27:25] like and noir like thing for like prohibition and so yeah I think I'm actually like I've had

[00:27:33] that I've seen that or I've heard that happen in a in a couple of um uh noir stories or like

[00:27:40] actual play games of like people do using like the prohibition kind of thing it's like I'm gonna

[00:27:45] actually set uh so my character actually ends up setting up an actual legitimate tea house

[00:27:49] and we do occasionally get the odd person that comes in and like orders tea and then they

[00:27:54] bit take as they realize it's actually tea that they're drinking their tea cup and not some

[00:27:58] not some moonshine but uh I digress I'll move on um

[00:28:09] he just kept pointing no expression to be read with no expression to be read within the whole

[00:28:15] through his head I turned to face the pile and began sifting through the tall dead grass

[00:28:22] surrounding the tiny hill with my eyes until the cold hard steel silencer of a nine millimeter

[00:28:30] pressed against my temple I froze I let you finish real quick I forgot to have this as one of my

[00:28:38] grammar things you bet this section here I feel like you should mention that he's looking with his

[00:28:44] eyes first because it says like oh yeah he's searching through the long grass and all that and it goes

[00:28:49] on for a long sentence to the point that I thought he was physically like in the grass with his hands

[00:28:56] looking trying to find something and then at the end it's like with his eyes yeah you know what

[00:29:01] I actually kind of agree with that because like I also had the same visual of him like like

[00:29:05] like honest hands and knees looking through the grass and then it's like oh with my eyes until

[00:29:11] my eyes oh it's like it's sort of like almost felt like an afterthoughts like no that seems

[00:29:14] to be moved to like a different spot in like I had in the sentence yeah yeah I can get behind

[00:29:21] that I searched through the brush with my eyes as I'm done yeah yeah and then we get until the cold

[00:29:27] hard steel silencer of the nine millimeter pressed against my temple I froze I am frozen let it go

[00:29:36] let it go no that's not where I'm at um not just because there's a gun against my head

[00:29:44] but because that mound of dirt is undisturbed and that damn little tulip is still sticking out of it

[00:29:53] so first thing yeah is Arnia ghost or is this all actually some weird delusion in the mind of pity

[00:30:02] it did hint earlier with his his his conversation with Rocco that perhaps pity does have a guilty

[00:30:09] conscious deep down maybe this time around part of his mind mingled with the drugs in the system

[00:30:17] and had him drive out to the site of the dirty deed because this one got to him in some way

[00:30:25] and even the gun to his head is actually all in his head like he's actually just like having again

[00:30:32] like I've kind of said earlier it stayed earlier it seems like he's having a bad trip maybe this would

[00:30:38] be like depending on how fucked up he is he could be part of his own gun to his head that's true

[00:30:42] yeah that's exactly like again like you could all be like this is like the one like the drugs like

[00:30:46] maybe between the drugs or even like he is a hard bit in killer he's a hard boiled killer whatever

[00:30:53] maybe this time around like a crack of like of a guilty conscious kind of like seeped out

[00:30:59] and is like playing on it what soda please yeah what it'll call it practical soda

[00:31:10] but yes um that slipped out of the soda and fizzed out of the soda

[00:31:17] and has like finally like kind of like gotten to him because even like when he's talking like he

[00:31:23] we he presumably did something bad to Arnie's wife um and maybe but maybe maybe he didn't maybe he did

[00:31:33] um and then even like was like is this a game to you and then he like actually like thought on

[00:31:38] like oh is this a game it's like oh yeah like whack him all so it's like he was already kind of

[00:31:42] introspective right before he killed Arnie so like maybe this was like between that and the drugs and

[00:31:48] stuff maybe again this has all just been like one bad like drug trip and it's like this is the

[00:31:53] okay this is the one like dirty deed he's done that kind of got him and like on a mental level

[00:31:58] because you also never know when how that's gonna trigger in somebody like

[00:32:02] you might be hardened to like violence and helplessness and stuff of that but like you never know

[00:32:07] like how hardened you are until like something happens so um

[00:32:12] make me show pity for pity not really because like he's still co-killer like

[00:32:19] whatever but I just I'm just trying to like rash like like trying to try to figure out

[00:32:26] what Arnie is in this case like because it's clearly not a physical entity because the

[00:32:32] as we get this revelation at the end his grave site is undisturbed so I guess Arnie was either

[00:32:37] a ghost or some kind of mental manifestation on the on the side of pity but he also could

[00:32:43] have ghosted out of it and then physically manifested after the fact that's true this could

[00:32:47] also be yeah that's what I'm saying like this could also be a ghost um like this there could be a

[00:32:51] supernatural element yeah um also uh this is one of this is what I said earlier we're like part

[00:32:57] of the story didn't like that usually bugs me and other stories didn't bug me because it was

[00:33:01] done right this is the one of those those few times where I liked the use of switching tense

[00:33:09] because it goes from like I fr- like uh like the nine millimeter like the whole story had been

[00:33:13] past tense up to this point um and like the hard silencer of the nine millimeter pressed against

[00:33:19] my temple I froze and then we get the next sentence- uh the next sentence down I am frozen

[00:33:26] and then not just because there's a gun against my head but because that mound of dirt is undisturbed

[00:33:32] and that damn little tulip is still sticking out of it like it's done this way like the

[00:33:41] reason why I like this way is because it's done intentionally uh whereas most of the time the

[00:33:46] switching of tense is done unintentionally and usually it's like a flub um and it's done in this

[00:33:53] this like perspective to me purposefully to create a dramatic effect um to show we are no longer in

[00:34:00] the past we are now in the present of this man reacting to his confusion and horror as it cuts

[00:34:07] to black with the with the final revelation at the end here I just imagine they all

[00:34:12] are listening to this podcast like pulling this collar being like oh yeah it was intentional

[00:34:17] I mean he might who knows yeah yeah they might who knows yeah if this is the case like I

[00:34:25] mean I'd be curious if like if I if I've like gotten it right or not but like this is just how I

[00:34:31] kind of like like like like this is how I kind of like uh interpreted this at the end in here so

[00:34:37] yeah that is interesting that didn't buggy this time yeah well and it's also like it's interesting

[00:34:42] the story like doesn't does a bunch of things that we usually hurt us in other stories like

[00:34:47] media res like there's costs there's like at least two instances of media res in the story yeah

[00:34:52] and it didn't bug you at all and then this like my tense talk was a not was an anti-tense talk

[00:35:00] so stories jammy yes my god or is you know it's just it's just actually good writing

[00:35:07] yeah maybe this is what happens when Mikey's not a rift yeah yeah Mikey would try and find a way

[00:35:13] to modify all this and it's like yeah that's knowing that he's going to be on the recording makes us

[00:35:19] read the story differently maybe but uh yeah that's the end of my actual thoughts um so

[00:35:27] gay I almost said Mikey gamer yeah would you call me the last time this happened Gimi

[00:35:33] Gimi the East ends for or the G stands for G gamer maybe yeah that'd be Gimi though yeah

[00:35:41] yeah Gimi yeah okay uh first off the art you moving on yeah I mean that's an actual animal but

[00:35:52] yeah it's all right no they just really it's real it's real like dude you're fugly yeah to reference

[00:35:59] Dean super Dean Winchester so my first note is starting the story yeah okay um it was kind of a

[00:36:10] weird start for me because media read is obviously but yeah like this is the way it starts the last

[00:36:16] time I had seen the mole he was face first at the bottom of a god damn bitch that was of course before

[00:36:22] I buried his ass in the dirt and planted a single tulip on the mount that ought to keep those two

[00:36:28] those fat tulips from flapping their chocolate myself heading down the brown pile with the back of

[00:36:34] an old rickety shovel oh that's really yeah but at the time I thought it was fun to use help

[00:36:41] I just understood why you put a tulip there why because it's part of his joke like basically like

[00:36:48] this is how he deals with moles or with snitches he puts a tulip on the gravesite because they're

[00:36:54] tulips like because they they're dabbing their jaw they're they're slapping their two lips wow

[00:37:00] I just realized that fucking oh I would have gone this entire recording without knowing that

[00:37:09] I did I just it took you to reread the story allowed to me yeah yeah

[00:37:15] to realize that it's like that's why there's a fucking tulip god I'm so dumb that's so good

[00:37:21] it is that's so good like that's really good as like but it's not like a like a calling card

[00:37:27] I think but it's basically like um it's effectively like the characters like it's it's something

[00:37:32] they you can you I could I could see this character doing that to snitches snitches get ditches and tulips

[00:37:41] yeah oh my god it's layers upon layers cut to the author like listen to this it's just like

[00:37:49] yep totally no honestly I'm I kind of I really hope this this wasn't intentional like this because like

[00:37:57] this is like blah chef's kiss layers upon layers that we it took us rereading the story like twice

[00:38:04] now to figure that out yeah yeah like a part of the story yeah yes oh god sorry

[00:38:13] right in his day or right the brightest day bright yeah clear as day yeah yeah um see your actual

[00:38:22] comment though on the quote oh yeah right um it's basically like

[00:38:28] starting the story like that I was like what even is this intro like whoever this

[00:38:31] mayor is because they didn't have a name at that point yeah it just kind of seems like an

[00:38:35] asshole who kills animals for no good reason I honestly thought the same thing like I again

[00:38:39] because the mole the image of the actual animal mole I thought it was not like it was a a a a

[00:38:45] little mole yeah picture of one right there right it's like okay we're following an animal killer great

[00:38:52] yeah I hate it yeah love it love to see it or not yeah either way we'll move on yeah

[00:39:00] cuz Arnie Reynolds was a god damn mole pretty bad one at that but a mole nonetheless I was surprised

[00:39:06] at how terrible he was at it really I mean really I was I mean of all people I thought he would have

[00:39:12] been the last person on earth on earth that Arnie would have left his dear old wife alone with

[00:39:18] that was the last person so at this point I'm like what the fuck's going on we got like

[00:39:24] the way that Nair has been referring to this mole the whole time as a creature yeah I know wife

[00:39:33] I it's really weird honestly there's a the first part of the story I was kind of like my my mental

[00:39:40] image my mental theater of this movie was um uh mr. Toad and the mole or like it was like basically

[00:39:48] the little like those like like stop motion animations of like of animal people with like vet like

[00:39:54] human costumes on and such yeah but like at this point I'm starting to view this honestly

[00:40:00] and and for real sees as a Disney cartoon yeah that's it as anthropomorphic cartoon animals yeah like

[00:40:08] like in the vein of like the Robin Hood movies like we're or like zootopia 100% oh honestly this could

[00:40:14] this could honestly be like a dark like a dark story in uh in uh in zootopia like legitimately

[00:40:22] pretty much spoilers that's what I viewed the rest of the story oh I think it's cartoon with

[00:40:29] anthropomorphic characters I mean I still don't hate that I mean like I know it's it works it like

[00:40:35] what is the story like it's we're wrong but we don't hate it what what's what's what we what we

[00:40:43] wouldn't complain about in other stories we're not gonna complain about in this one yeah what is

[00:40:49] this story to us I don't know and like I know that's not the intent no we make a horror story in a

[00:40:58] Disney-esque theme but if it was I wouldn't hate it no absolutely not like again like this could

[00:41:05] add a few little bits at the top and like the bottom this could honestly be this might even be

[00:41:08] able to be like a a lost episode or a lost like a lost episode like short set in zootopia that's

[00:41:15] somebody found for sure but moving on perhaps I ill assumed Arnie's mistrust of us the family that

[00:41:26] especially me and ma and roco and sam but how's sam by the way it's yeah sam sam is just like yeah

[00:41:36] it's just another guy that doesn't matter either way yeah it's just another guy apparently just

[00:41:40] like basically like that's like the core group group of the mob family so I just mentioned that because

[00:41:45] like I write down everyone's name trying to get out of here who they are and I did not write down

[00:41:49] because I got you because of our mistrust of him mistrust I might add that was completely justified

[00:41:55] improving proven when we discover that he was a god damn little mole working for the piggies so

[00:42:02] that at this point I'm like okay I'm locking it in this is a hundred percent quote-quote confirmation

[00:42:09] that Arnie is a cartoon mole who is literally a mole in this criminal organization

[00:42:15] who is working for the police who are entirely made up of cartoon pigs this is fantastic so good

[00:42:20] and I guess at this point that would make the criminals all measles probably like ala conquerers bad

[00:42:25] for a day or yeah yeah yeah so god and not yeah like I don't hate this at all like this is like not

[00:42:35] like ruining the story at all for me because like if it did stay like this the whole time

[00:42:41] it seems like it would be silly ala like freaking decay mode from years ago that like oh yeah from

[00:42:48] the yeah the the harbinger experiment yeah where they had huge heads and long arms and I

[00:42:52] attributed it to decay mode and you thought that was super silly whereas I actually thought

[00:42:55] that was kind of creepy but yeah but with this like normally when you see cartoons they're just

[00:43:00] cartoons and you know they're fine but if you see what it's face blown out and bleeding and shit

[00:43:06] yeah yeah different kind of horror that you don't see because like it yeah it's we see

[00:43:13] like body horror from humans hell lot more yeah no one heard these like I think what you're

[00:43:20] tapping into is like basically what they what everyone tries to tap into with a lost episode

[00:43:25] like genre like where they try because like that is what made what what people are trying to invoke

[00:43:30] in a lost episode creepypasta is take this thing that was usually like not creepy or or like

[00:43:37] horrifying or horrific or anything like that like a child's cartoon like snow white and seven dwarves

[00:43:42] or Mickey Mouse or zootopia and then throw that into something dark and twisted like a fucking

[00:43:50] crime family noir like killing and that is some and that's something people do in real life like

[00:43:58] not even just outside of crepuses some people do try to make like edgy cartoons that are like

[00:44:03] it's like the happy true friends yes or like cartoons that are like oh like the art the art style

[00:44:10] is very cutesy and like very try to emulate like Warner Brothers cartoons or like the loony tunes

[00:44:17] or like Disney cartoons but then like the story that's being told is very dark and serious

[00:44:23] as well it's that kind of like vibe and like that is what they're trying to invoke in lost episodes

[00:44:28] and we sort of like have like imprinted on this story this version

[00:44:39] is what I was what I'm kind of gathering from our little conversation here yeah

[00:44:43] and I'm for it honestly but

[00:44:51] so yeah and then the so that that was the first quote unquote confirmation and then I like

[00:44:56] I fully leaned into it on this next one because it says the other day me and Sam how they do say

[00:45:04] Sam again we're having some soda then Rocco says so I'm getting there or any comes in and he starts

[00:45:10] talking to the both of us and you know what he says what he calls a crack so then when I read that

[00:45:16] I'm like okay this entire time Arnie is a mole he's an animal because the whole time it's only

[00:45:23] been referred Arnie has only been referenced as a mole as the that word mole which I assumed was

[00:45:31] animal incorrectly yeah so then when he says he starts talking then I'm like okay he's absolutely

[00:45:39] hurt to him character now and so are all like like that is the one that locked it in as okay it's

[00:45:44] cartoon we're doing this because he's saying words there's a whole time he could have been

[00:45:50] they could have been humans and this could have been an actual physical mole because

[00:45:55] even though he has a full name like technically your dog has your last name yeah right so

[00:46:02] Lucy Colt is yeah yeah so Lucy Colt is oh let's be Italian

[00:46:15] yeah because again like I'm just really well I have like lead and heavy into the Zutopia thing it's

[00:46:20] like yes Zutopia has like like the characters have like last names and so like like her Judy hops

[00:46:26] is like the main character's name or something like yeah like they all like they have names

[00:46:30] with they have they have names and they have family names and like surnames and stuff because they are

[00:46:34] people in for all intents of purposes they're they're just animals that are being put into the role of

[00:46:40] people yeah aka first but moving on worries or like again Disney cartoons are like basically like

[00:46:49] animal anthropomorphic cartoons yep yep the next one is connective tissues time oh no

[00:47:00] just that it's interesting that this is an organized crime related story and like I've been playing

[00:47:06] the hell out of payday two lately which is like a organized crime and yeah my most recent character

[00:47:12] that I made for a tape without barbieg I'm playing as next con yeah that's true yeah your

[00:47:17] personality going on lately for me yep I've been watching a lot of like westerns with like bank rob

[00:47:23] reason should so you've been watching yeah even you've been checking a lot like not maybe not

[00:47:28] no more adjacent stuff yeah yeah yeah not nothing new are apart but the crime

[00:47:33] yeah yeah more of the crime stuff yeah

[00:47:42] and then we'll move on here I don't know man rocker said

[00:47:47] doesn't mean he's a cop you think everyone's a cop I do not I said biting off

[00:47:53] a hang nail and taking another more than gulp yeah you do rock oh said you think everybody is out

[00:47:58] to get yeah you must got one of them guilty consciences from all your wack it moving on uh so my next one

[00:48:08] well I also like this that could be taken it could also that was what I was meant over

[00:48:13] referencing earlier with like like him talk of rock oh saying like he's got must have like some

[00:48:17] guilty conscience or something like that yes yes also yeah like first all like all that whacking

[00:48:22] is like that's kind of like moving on but yeah also the other grote the other grotesque that I didn't

[00:48:26] note but like now that you brought it up like I can't not look at as like I said biting off a

[00:48:31] hang nail and and taking another warm gulp it's like he just like take this like like take like

[00:48:37] like bite the hang nail and while still in his mouth take a swig of his coffee

[00:48:43] yeah he didn't spit it out no I mean like we can assume that he like spit it out and then took a

[00:48:48] swig but like the way that that lies like reads there's a way it's like oh god oh oh that's kind of

[00:48:56] weird god pity is gross he is a soda addict though that's true also I had to I know we're talking

[00:49:04] you're talking about like how um Arnie called it crack and like it's clearly like Coke or soda

[00:49:10] as they call it I actually just quickly like Google like what is the what's the difference between

[00:49:14] coke and crack um so coke is basically the powdered like vert like extract from like the coca leaves

[00:49:22] and stuff crack is the process is the stuff where like the coke it's the coke powder that's been

[00:49:29] processed into a solid form but can then be like uh melt it into a liquid and some of that and injected

[00:49:37] yeah so I was like what like because I was like I knew I knew I had a I had an inkling that crack

[00:49:42] was like basically just another processed version of cocaine but I wasn't sure exactly

[00:49:48] yeah cocaine and now that that's oh my list high cocaine yeah like crack is what you ingest

[00:49:54] is the version that you ingest yeah so it's like once again hi ceasus

[00:50:00] yeah I like to lie I just had to like Google what's the difference between cocaine and crack

[00:50:09] it's it's educational yeah it's really educational yeah no it's a lot of wood look is like oh no

[00:50:13] this guy's a tabletop RPG or let's move along

[00:50:18] I've always dealt a green and uh another and like kathu games yeah no don't worry about this guy

[00:50:23] he's harmless but I shall move on to the page break

[00:50:30] I like that there's a page break but I feel like there's a lot of info missing in between

[00:50:36] what happened before and after the page break because like it skips over the assumed murder of the

[00:50:40] wife and the entire conversation that he has with um with the mole to get him to drive him to

[00:50:48] the location yeah and like I feel the like that last last combo is kind of needed we don't necessarily

[00:50:55] need to know out or in sorry we don't necessarily need to know how or if he did the wife in

[00:51:02] but we should at least like see how he convinced him to drive him out here because it seems like

[00:51:08] he's driving him out there to his death and like it's pretty obvious I I actually disagree

[00:51:13] I think it's more dramatic for the way it is like I like I think it's more dramatically satisfying

[00:51:17] the way it is because it's like because it says he'd tell him to get him to drive out there it's

[00:51:23] more of it's like insinuation like um it's like he basically told him it's like hey we have your

[00:51:31] wife she's out here if you want to see her again come out come out with us uh and or come out with me

[00:51:37] and we'll uh and we'll do with this you fucking snitch can't think I guess so he's gonna

[00:51:42] be he'll drive to this clearance will be like strap to a chair we and like I assume like he basically

[00:51:47] confronted him got him in the car and then like pulled a gun and said you fucking snit you fucking

[00:51:53] mull we have your wife she's out here oh we're gonna take we're gonna take you out to her kind of

[00:51:57] thing yeah the trick them like that's that's that can all be insinuated from what you from what we read

[00:52:01] here yeah especially like get that for sure yeah but like with how there's a lot of dialogue in this

[00:52:08] and as you said the um the author enjoys doing dialogue there's misdiolog chances here I enjoy

[00:52:16] doing monologues which like our different just doing constant dialogue like it's they're going

[00:52:21] for a style of narrative of narrative here so and this is definitely like a a style of like

[00:52:27] scenic scene uh uh segway basically like it's like the first the the last thing that they said before

[00:52:34] the times of the timeskip is um take him tell him to get uh you got a spare ticket and I'll take his

[00:52:41] wife out and believe me I took his wife out or I took her out and then it cuts away to like

[00:52:47] it's about a mile that way and like they're already in the car like like for like a few hours later

[00:52:51] and so with that so yeah I know it seemed really it worked for me like as uh uh as part of the narrative

[00:53:00] yeah didn't necessarily hate it it's just I would have been okay with more information because I was

[00:53:05] having good time reading yeah not spare I also really liked the end like when he like uh like he's

[00:53:11] asking when Arnie asked at the end of this this uh section like uh is my wife down in that hole

[00:53:17] you bastard and then he's just like he just pump he just plugs them and drops him in the in the

[00:53:22] in the dirt and even says like I don't even uh need to I don't even bother telling him if his wife

[00:53:26] is down there or not or if she was okay or not like he doesn't need like he just like show me how cold

[00:53:32] fucking like pity is yes I felt that dialogue was kind of awkward though it would be honest really

[00:53:40] like that whole scene we'll get there um you know I move around yep so it's next quote

[00:53:47] you know what the funny part is Arnie I asked the man shook his head his eyes still focus on the road

[00:53:52] okay um at this point I'm like okay maybe they're supposed to be humans because it finally says

[00:53:59] the man shook his head there has been no no reference to any human or about humanoid any

[00:54:05] I guess humanoid technically answer is more freaking yeah and yeah there's been no reference to them

[00:54:11] being human beings until that point where the man shook his head so after the paid prank I mean

[00:54:17] man could also just be like the male like an analyzer like the male equivalent of well yeah

[00:54:22] necessarily need to be like human I'm like I'm trying to I'm trying to stitch together these

[00:54:29] these these ripping tears in your in your dreams yeah I don't know man

[00:54:38] I don't know man like it's also a slang it's like I don't man like yeah but it's slang for

[00:54:42] all my hands we are humans yeah but I mean like they'd be calling each other moles or something

[00:54:48] or any animals yeah I don't know yeah it'd be different either way

[00:54:54] I didn't break down what's before and after it buddy the way he says I thought we laughed in

[00:55:03] cough and nodded at old old Arnie all at the same time it seems like bit much

[00:55:14] it's almost like he's uh oh biting off a hang nail and eating it and drinking it

[00:55:19] oh god this is a simultaneous uh um motions happening yeah

[00:55:30] and then when they get to the pilot dirt why doesn't Arnie try to fight pity like he's led him

[00:55:38] to believe that she's dead at this point because there's just a pile of dirt in front of him

[00:55:44] nothing else so like why dicker up and he doesn't even tell him to dig her up he just goes

[00:55:53] and does it like he already knows yeah like I I was a digger up and like what's he expecting to find

[00:55:59] like her buried alive maybe yeah they cast it still with air I think it's more like basically

[00:56:06] like desperation I think that one thing that could be brought up I don't think it's brought up

[00:56:11] until like near the end of the killing right before the killing I feel like uh it should be

[00:56:17] established that um that pity has Arnie at gunpoint because I think he pulls out the gun like

[00:56:23] as at the at that spot right or he pulls it when he gets out yeah so he should have

[00:56:29] yeah so he should have had that gun on him like throughout the car ride and some of that

[00:56:32] because like at least that point like yeah he's gone to a gunpoint what else is he gonna do

[00:56:36] otherwise he's gonna get shot so like he's he's just gonna have to follow along with uh with

[00:56:42] what pity wants him to do so I guess yeah yeah this is another part where I'm like we need a

[00:56:48] little bit of information because upon seeing that if I don't know that pity told him that we

[00:56:55] bear it or alive and you better hurry and dig her up he might assume okay she's dead and buried you

[00:57:01] killed her you bastard yeah I feel like that could have been why bother digging it up

[00:57:06] yeah I think I think at the very least that could have been something that was brought up in the

[00:57:09] dialogue while they were driving to this location yeah like I tell you to slow down but you better

[00:57:14] hurry up she doesn't have much time one yeah exactly like that would have fixed it like that

[00:57:18] um for yeah for for that kind of thing yeah

[00:57:21] yeah

[00:57:26] because he does say like if she's hurt or something like that like you better not hurt or whatever so

[00:57:33] I don't yeah I just feel like at that point he should have tried fighting

[00:57:39] cuz if you ask me when he like when he like screeched to a halt like during like the last bit of

[00:57:43] the car ride I thought like he was going to try and like swerve the car and like yeah

[00:57:48] yeah but he doesn't he just swerves and stops at the spot

[00:57:53] or he's like he just he just stops like he just breaks heavy and like at the spot and it's like okay so

[00:57:57] I guess no nope I guess they're just there okay yeah I mean some people are like that like some

[00:58:03] people won't fight back so like um if they if they know that they can't if they don't think

[00:58:09] they can uh they can do it like they will just like kind of freeze up and not take a chance so

[00:58:13] yes but at this point the dude is a murderer and you know he's a murderer

[00:58:18] he's dripping you out to the middle of nowhere with his big pile of dirt in front of you

[00:58:22] and he wants you to dig it up with no real reason so he's clearly asking you to dig your own grave

[00:58:28] like I saw that coming a mile ago oh yeah no that's that's definitely something that's insinuated

[00:58:32] in the story like like if you're reading like as you're reading the story like you can

[00:58:36] different for like that's something that was probably brought up earlier or like the both

[00:58:40] characters know but they haven't said like again it's very no again this is very noir

[00:58:46] like this is the star noir is on noir like a lot of the time in the war it's um you a lot is not

[00:58:53] said but is inferred just like yeah in between the lines I almost were to like did better if like

[00:59:00] he's like standing in front of the uh sorry already standing in front of the the pile

[00:59:06] of dirt the shovel is handy just like drops the shovel is like you know what you dig my grave I'm

[00:59:10] not doing it for you and then he's like already did bang well no because he's a guy right

[00:59:16] because she would still some then yes it started digging up that hole well no he don't read like

[00:59:21] no he got to the pot when he got to the clearing there was a pile of dirt there

[00:59:27] as if there was a very funny I thought he had to shovel it out that's what he had to shovel

[00:59:33] and he asked him to start shoveling okay see I the way I interpreted like the pile of dirt there

[00:59:39] was the dirt that pity it already like dug out a hole because that's why like um when Arnie

[00:59:44] like gets to the hole and sees the dark hole down there as like was she down there and like

[00:59:49] and then he should get shot and drops down the hole I assumed is she down there under the pile of dirt

[00:59:54] no no I'm not worried alive is how I saw it hang on sick because I think that I think we're

[01:00:00] misreading the thing here hang on I gotta find that spot

[01:00:10] oh also pity's lat pity's name like it is stands for pit master and it's like oh that's nice

[01:00:15] like a nice little touch because he's like always digging pits um but no uh

[01:00:20] so a pit master is also that's not their director reference I think no no it's not

[01:00:24] master is someone who like um who smokes meats and he's really good smoking enemies

[01:00:31] like I see back guys killing them yeah so here it is um

[01:00:38] uh obarb he cried he hasn't really approached the small mountain of dirt

[01:00:44] the shovel dragging behind him and frozen his tracks I assume that he had something on his mind

[01:00:50] but the uh the next one is like did you really think that shovel was for digging up I smirked

[01:00:57] shaking my head in obvious no he turned from me to the to face the hole that lay just beyond the

[01:01:05] mound it was deep a good seven feet seven or ten feet which was a hell of a dig uh which was

[01:01:11] held to dig but the look on his face pulled me my efforts were well worth the trouble so yeah he'd

[01:01:17] already dug the hole okay I misread that as there was another time jump in here okay he got him to dig

[01:01:23] for a while and then he's looking at the hole in the ground yeah but uh I'm just ready you're right

[01:01:31] okay wait I'm not trying to like be like I hope I'm not coming across like some mug but like

[01:01:37] I just I think you'd I just assume that you'd like um you might have missed something there

[01:01:43] because like what you were saying was not registering for what I had read

[01:01:47] why no like I said I misread it I saw it as they drove up to a a very devoidy

[01:01:54] got there yeah and you have to dig it up yep

[01:02:02] so either way um he gets abducted by the zombie in force to drive basically

[01:02:06] uh and uh quote is turn the key as he Ilessly watched from the past and received blood and

[01:02:15] shit leaking all over the leather I just cleaned that dammit I said rolling my eyes

[01:02:20] he's taking this remarkably well especially since he just quote-unquote proved to himself that

[01:02:24] this isn't a dream and he's just rolling with it like there's not a single moment worries

[01:02:32] he's rolling sand you know yeah he just pasted immediately or like like right after like he said

[01:02:38] he rolls his eyes and so that's like uh the sign read 55 I was doing a hundred

[01:02:43] and then the mole sputtered and gurgled some more what I snapped I didn't say anything

[01:02:50] he kept burbling and reaching out for me I shuttered myself in the window or in the mirror

[01:02:56] yeah and that's the point where like he stops and puts his fucking seatbelt on because that's

[01:02:59] what the mole was telling him to do which is just kind of silly it's very it's not there's a

[01:03:06] fine line between silly and surreal like there's it's it's very like the characters being very

[01:03:13] cavalier on this macabre situation so I guess yeah yeah that might actually lend this to being

[01:03:26] all in this head a bit more to because earlier on when they were driving um and Arnie was driving

[01:03:33] yeah and he was given him a hard time saying oh you don't even have your seatbelt on

[01:03:37] like he was like pity was the safety conscious one so yeah in this point when pity's driving

[01:03:45] in his head he's still thinking about being a safety conscious conscience conscious whatever

[01:03:50] or remembering like this so this hallucination is also telling him that yeah so it's like almost like

[01:03:57] or yeah or like it's like what he's remembering his his previous dialogue like his mind's like telling

[01:04:03] like reminding of it's like what he said to Arnie earlier and I was like oh yeah I guess

[01:04:07] it should not be a hypocrite yeah he's basically putting himself in the passenger seat yeah yeah

[01:04:13] and then we get to the ending and he gets taken back to the murder site and it's undisturbed

[01:04:23] and all that then who was mole is how I saw that for real so like did some hit other hitman grab him

[01:04:33] and pity was just like a hallucinating the dead mole man over top of him and like he's just being

[01:04:39] killed by some other mundanely killed by some other guy or it's all a dream or if it's all as an

[01:04:44] hey yeah I also think it could go like there's there it leaves it open it was like like because it's

[01:04:49] like that revelation that the author was going for is like like that's like wait the graves undisturbed

[01:04:54] in the tool sir but who was and then like there's the the the sound stir on his head yeah yeah

[01:05:00] and then but yeah yeah who was who was mole like who

[01:05:03] but yeah because like yeah it could either be like this is all like a delusion and he's being like

[01:05:09] taken out by like Sam or Rocco or something maybe or it is a ghost of Arnie that is like pulling

[01:05:16] him back to the grave because of like like almost like a karmic reason or like almost like a

[01:05:20] revenant kind of thing or again like we said earlier it's all in his head and he's actually even

[01:05:25] put the gun to his head on his own gun to his head because in his in his co-gaddled state yeah

[01:05:35] yeah well yeah that's all we have for now okay I suppose we'll move on to final thoughts then

[01:05:46] yeah so I'm still gonna I'm gonna partially recommend this but on the on the high end it needs

[01:05:49] if there's a few corrections grammatically um but I did enjoy I almost want to just fully

[01:05:56] recommend it honestly um because like the grammar's not that bad like rereading it

[01:06:02] or like or like readdressing that like those notes and stuff of that and I do really enjoy

[01:06:08] both both like the story as it is and also our take that's also it's just a lost episode of

[01:06:13] Zootopia yeah um so I mean otherwise there was like a lot of front it's in front buts and stuff

[01:06:19] and all the ones I grabbed were not in dialogue there were five or six more in dialogue but like

[01:06:23] those never bug me honestly if I'm being honest yes uh so like those aren't the ones that like would

[01:06:29] would cause me to like not recommend this fully so oh I know I'm just saying the ones I've

[01:06:34] mentioned are not dialogue so that amount is the amounts in the actual plural writing yeah

[01:06:40] and the ones that I I brought up were like few and far between like there's only like I only had

[01:06:45] like a handful of errors that could easily be fixed so I'd I'd honestly give this one a full

[01:06:50] recommendation uh thing back on it like as part of this like discussion um because I really did

[01:06:57] enjoy the noir vibe and uh and and like it's just a nice short karmic ghost story in a way like

[01:07:05] ghost could be and the ghost story could be like both like it's an actual ghost or like ghost as in

[01:07:11] like it's a hallucination or it's a manifestation of the man's mind kind of ghost like he's he's uh

[01:07:17] he's being haunted by the ghost of his dark deed that he did or his his cold deed um so yeah I

[01:07:26] I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you give this a full recommendation there you go

[01:07:30] right yeah yeah and the game is like yeah yeah this is like all right there you go and I'm

[01:07:40] gonna you know what I'm gonna not recommend it at all because that I hated it no yeah I'm gonna stay

[01:07:47] around a maybe probably cuz like after reading it and sitting down like wow Disney went dark with

[01:07:56] this one because I love that I love I don't want you to shake that I absolutely love that I feel

[01:08:04] like this story just needed like a few tweaks at the beginning and the end to give us a lost episode

[01:08:12] and zootopia and I'm for that I love especially cuz like this story like seem like again from what

[01:08:20] we're we've both read it as like it is it's all the problems we usually have with stories that

[01:08:26] try to do the things that the story does we don't have problems with and it even like if it was just

[01:08:33] like tweaked a little bit to be a lost episode it would be a really good lost episode of a

[01:08:38] zootopia thing you just need to find the right balance of like how to make this a lost episode like

[01:08:42] where'd it come from and stuff like that but pretty much yeah

[01:08:48] but yeah like all that being said seeing the most character animals the whole time was

[01:08:53] different um but not in a bad way yeah but like with the heavy focus on all the animal references

[01:09:02] early on and like the image up front I think a little bit of clarification about them not

[01:09:08] actually being animals should be put up a little bit earlier to help out a lot with that because

[01:09:13] it's not intended shocking what it's not intended for them to be cartoons yeah I think I think the

[01:09:19] situation also is like a lot of gang and like mafia terminology and slang is very animal focused yes

[01:09:28] like mold so much of it with no reference to any human physical characteristics at all except for

[01:09:38] that one was like let the man eyes hey animals have eyes too yeah yeah okay there's nothing specific

[01:09:46] to humans like saying the color of someone's hair that guy's bald you know and I think

[01:09:53] to give some clarification that there's you which is weird that I have to ask for that

[01:10:00] yeah but okay fair enough because for me like it took until after the page break to get any sort

[01:10:06] of clarification that it could be humans which was weird yeah like I'll give it to you because like

[01:10:13] early on because the mole pitch look because of that photo honestly that's really that was like

[01:10:18] the real like big like kind of primer for me that like like the first couple of like sentences

[01:10:23] I was like why is this guy being so mean to a mole like yeah and then it comes away from it either

[01:10:28] because it's right there and it's huge and staring me in the face and then for me like once it got

[01:10:34] into like more of like like him talking about the crime family I was like oh this is a crime

[01:10:38] family like a human's and they're just using all the animal slang that like crime families use in

[01:10:43] in all those noir movies and stuff I've seen yeah and I first assumed that as well but then I'm like

[01:10:49] what if it's not yeah then you then you leaned heavily into like the anthropomorphic crime family

[01:10:56] which again I'm also fine with it like if that if if if you like that vision of it like I'm also like

[01:11:04] on that side like that was that that makes it cooler maybe not so much yeah it makes it more unique

[01:11:13] I was gonna say isn't this gonna make it creepier but it makes it cooler yeah although

[01:11:22] it does ruin the the face reveal of Arnie the monster yeah cuz his face ripped open like it's a

[01:11:30] mole if his face is already a mole normally then it doesn't matter not all moles are star nose moles

[01:11:36] yeah so it could have been like like a god damn star nose mole not that he was one here's more of

[01:11:42] like more of your stupid moles yeah hello we just dove right into the furry side of this

[01:11:50] that's what they are yeah yeah with this visual it's how you could interpret the story yeah

[01:11:57] as a as a furry noir horror I hope that's what you were hoping for Mac Ralston oh I'm sure

[01:12:07] also we're sorry I'm not so the ending is left like open to kind of let you believe what you want to

[01:12:16] like if it's a drug-fueled hallucination that kind of seems like it's the easiest one to go with

[01:12:21] yeah or or that someone else is offing him but the drugs may look like his most recent victim and all

[01:12:27] that and Rocky did say that he feels guilty about stuff you've done right so yeah it kind of

[01:12:33] altized together with that like it lays the groundwork in the story for for for the

[01:12:39] for the ending so all that being said I feel like there is some missing info that would help

[01:12:44] the story bit with also a little bit later weight on the animal references as clarification

[01:12:51] really on other humans would do a lot better and then in regards to like the creep factors of all

[01:12:58] this like he's a dick can he deserves it but like that doesn't necessarily make me scared though

[01:13:06] it's akin to watching a Jason movie and cheering him on as he's killing these assholes

[01:13:11] like it's not free but it is a yeah it's not creepy but it is also it is still a horror so like it is

[01:13:17] yeah and some people do you may not find a creep but some people do find that creepy like those things

[01:13:22] yeah yeah it's basically like if I don't like the character because he's an asshole

[01:13:28] I'm not gonna care about the creepy things that are happening you know fair but like yeah that's

[01:13:34] the subjectively but I again like that's your opinion on it so and like I've been saying a lot lately

[01:13:43] as soon as the creepy should happen pity like immediately didn't care or he didn't see like he

[01:13:50] wasn't scared ever so like his not being scaredness rubbed off on me if the character's not scared

[01:13:58] why should I why should I be scared you know is the whole kind of feeling I've been getting

[01:14:02] lately with a lot of these stories fair yeah I don't know if he's not way to take it necessarily but

[01:14:09] yeah okay he isn't he isn't selling the fear key being pity pity is not selling the fear

[01:14:15] and this the creepiness of what's going on he's acting like this is just a normal thing

[01:14:21] yeah because he doesn't realize he's in danger

[01:14:26] yes yes like like yeah like that that is again in horror like that is kind of a thing like

[01:14:30] that happens a lot in like not just in creep houses but in like horror stories and stuff

[01:14:33] of that outside of creep houses genres is like a person not realizing they're in danger

[01:14:40] walking with the monster and then or describing a scene where like it should be horrifying to them

[01:14:46] but they either something has happened to them or their state of mind is like in a way that they

[01:14:50] don't find it horrifying and then they fucking bite it like in it in Stephen King's it one of the

[01:14:57] kids that could see it by by by Pennywise is a fucking sociopath or like it's literally just a

[01:15:04] straight-up psychopath like he killed his own his his baby baby sister by snuff it by smothering her

[01:15:10] you know with a pillow and then it's just like really weird and like messed up and then when Pennywise

[01:15:17] finally like ambushes him and tries to put on a persona that will scare him Pennywise realizes

[01:15:24] he can't affect this kid because he keeps shifting between different like things that would scare

[01:15:30] somebody like it's like a constantly flex like his form is constantly fluctuating and so it kind of

[01:15:36] like takes the piss out of out of his meal so he just kind of just eats him but like it's describing

[01:15:43] as like like describing it like this kid who has no fear and Pennywise like well you're no fucking fun

[01:15:48] and then just chomps down on him yeah yeah so it's and or like likewise in

[01:15:56] in I think it was the lost world novel one of the characters gets bitten by a by a raptor

[01:16:05] in a way that like basically like his he's like not dead but he's like basically like lost all his

[01:16:11] like nerve connections or spying connections and he and the way his mind is going it still

[01:16:15] just becomes very plazas like you know I don't fucking care like oh this monster is like

[01:16:20] this thing's sinking its teeth into my head it's like oh that's that's a nice little pressure

[01:16:24] and then like basically like it cuts away like as his his heads about to be chomped like a melon

[01:16:30] um it cuts away to the other one of the other characters like looking away as like the glory scene

[01:16:34] happens but like the whole time his perspective is like nothing like he's in danger

[01:16:40] but no point is he is he seemingly worried about it well because at that point he's fucked and

[01:16:47] he can't do anything about it and also there's another character there just show that this is

[01:16:52] scary okay so maybe react to it yeah so I guess I guess more of the the other what the Pennywise

[01:16:59] situation the more better of example of them of what I'm trying to get across is just like

[01:17:03] that that is does happen a lot in horror like we're like a character tries not

[01:17:08] is not reacting to the scenario but like as a reader it's like no this person's in danger

[01:17:13] like are they gonna bite even if they're an asshole like how are they gonna die like it's still

[01:17:16] gonna be like a horrific thing so yes yeah and the it reference works if he was the only killing

[01:17:24] the entire book I suppose the problem being he's not so there's all these other kids who actually

[01:17:31] are scared of Pennywise and they can show the fear that he's creating in them through like what

[01:17:39] they feel and all that and what they're seeing but if the whole thing was this one kid not giving a

[01:17:43] shit then all of a sudden it changes it from being a horror movie to a horror book to just like

[01:17:49] a horror like substance book where it's like not actually meant to be scary because no one's scared

[01:17:56] and in this I only have one connection to the fear and that person doesn't give a shit

[01:18:04] I think this is gonna be a case where we have to agree to disagree for sure I'm just explaining

[01:18:08] what I'm on another one all along it I'm leaving this as Adam maybe because like it could have been

[01:18:16] creepier if the character cared more because like he's also potentially in like a drug haze right

[01:18:23] now so he could be seeing this way worse than what it even is like it could just be normal a

[01:18:29] normal guy and he's loose name all that but like I just want him to care he doesn't care

[01:18:37] care yeah you get you get I sometimes I feel like you get too immersed into like

[01:18:42] and not bad thing but like sometimes like you you immerse yourself too well in this story while

[01:18:48] you're reading it that like you're you tack on the emotions of the character and it ruins your

[01:18:53] experience for the story I try to not get like what I mean yeah I mean there is I try to connect

[01:19:02] with them even if it's an asshole like pity because like I'm seeing the world through his eyes so I

[01:19:07] need to see the world through his eyes and experience what he's experiencing yeah but if he's not

[01:19:11] experiencing fear I'm not gonna be scared yeah also just as a quick like one last thing I kind of

[01:19:17] wish that or what would be awesome like last bit of the thing of the story after like it's like as

[01:19:22] as Chuck Arnie's twin brother killed Pid he kills Piddy like that's the last

[01:19:28] because it like reveals that like it was actually Chuck going to revenge Arnie

[01:19:33] and because Piddy was in a drug field state that he thought it was he thought it was Arnie talking

[01:19:37] to him the whole time as like the corpse I guess I don't know I just thought that might be

[01:19:43] an interesting like I kind of hate that all right I like that it's up near a little bit

[01:19:51] the way you complain about I'm saying could be better okay that's yeah I like to the story but

[01:19:59] there are things that bug me one way or another um that I there's ways that I can see the

[01:20:04] story being proved both dramatically and um making them humans intentionally yeah and adding

[01:20:13] scaringness to it okay overall partial recommendation all right so a full recommendation and a

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